Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

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#417239 Jan 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Wrong again "BS" which is par for the course with you!! I don't hate Protestants!! I was one for over 35 years and I still have many (common) Protestant "brothers and sister friends (in Christ) from those early years. We can "share out faith" with each other, sharing our common love, worship and reverence for Christ (openly) and still respect each others differences..... The blatant and hostile attacks on this forum have been intitiated from Protestants who come on this Catholic Forum to spread their "snake oil venom" of Protestant condemnation and judgement against other Christians (especially Catholics). The fact is bible only Protestantism (never has, nor ever will be) able to stand on its own doctrine of believes without (having to attack) the Catholic Church and the VERIFIABLE BIBLICAL AND HISTORICAL TRUTH of 2000 years of Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church!
~~~

YOU ARE AS FLAKY AS A SNOW STORM.

WE EVANGELICALS DID NOT CREATE THIS FORUM.

IF YOU ROMAN CATHOLIC ATTACKS WERE NOT DAILY AGAINST US

We would have no reason to defend the truth of GOD'S WORD against your conjecture.

Your pope is the one that has challenged us...

He repeated what other popes have said OVER THE CENTURIES.

HE SAID

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican
The Vatican issued a document Tuesday restating its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

NOTE -->

Rom 1:18 For -->the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; <--

Since: Feb 08

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#417240 Jan 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
184
<quoted text>
My belief is based on Scripture..which I quoted...which cannot be refuted...
Oxbow,
This is scripture;
1 Timothy 3 KJV
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
>>>>God was manifest in the flesh,
justified in the Spirit,
seen of angels,
preached unto the Gentiles,
believed on in the world,
received up into glory.

Oxbow,can't you see it?

It's not that complicated.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417241 Jan 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You should understand that you're adding to the Book of Revelation when you imply a 'government seal' or 'the Beast is the Roman Cathlic Church'.
The Beast was the evil Roman Empire that Catholics defeated and converted to Christianity. Catholicism didn't change after the conversion of Constantine. You been lied to if you believe Ellen White.
Anyway, thats not why I'm replying to this particular post.
Sunday was observed from the earliest possible moments of Christianity. It was NOT invented at the Council of Laodicia in 362 AD like your post above suggests.
I encourage you to watch this video if I am able to upload it..
The Catholic Mass
www.youtube.com/watch...
Did not these following people represent YOUR CHURCH so it is not the protestant church's at fault as you would like to claim.
Clay

United States

#417242 Jan 21, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
how about the Christian who was killed a couple days ago in Hong Kong because he proclaim Christ as his savior?
not a saint because he wasn't crucified upside down for Christ?
You're a clown
I guess I would be a clown if I really thought a person needed to be crucified to be a saint.
I don't think that though...so I'm not sure why you implied it.
Clay

United States

#417243 Jan 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
If we look at the ring and the fancy duds ...there is no one on earth (that supposed to represent God ) the has more fanfare and showmanship then the pope..
I have not witnessed any one kissing The ring that Benny Hinn is wearing, or bowing down to him.
Neither have I seen him dressed in a as flashy-er garb as the pope and
the cardinals wear.
Rev Hinn doesn't wear a duck bill hat either., nor does he have the zillions of $000000000 at his disposal.
He has to depend upon freewill offerings and gifts from his followers, for His support.
The expenses of His ministry runs into the millions monthly..
Evidently there are those that believe Rev Hinn is for real, or they
would not support Him as they do...
He does not have all his expenses paid by a global organization..as the pope does...and he evidently does a far greater work and wins more souls that are saved and healed than the pope...
Why WOULD Hinn be anything special. He is one in a million self proclaimed ministers who picked up a Bible and declared themselves an authority.

The Pope, on the other hand, is one of 265 who sat in Saint Peters chair as head of the Church Christ started.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417244 Jan 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I don't think its funny at all. Ellen white (inventor of the SDA idea) told you the Roman Catholic Church decided on Sunday in the year 362 at the command of Constantine.
Well, not so. Christians observed Sunday hundreds of yrs before that, for good reason too. Its what the Apostles taught.
Nope theses folks said so. Never read dear Ellens books but maybe I should.
We celebrate Sunday instead of Saturday, because the Catholic Church has transferred the sacredness from Saturday to Sunday at the council of Laodicea in the year of 364 AD." The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, from P. Geiermann, the work of Pope Pius X, on 1-25-1910
According to the Roman Catholic Church 'Sunday' is their distinct and distinguished mark of authority.
"Sunday is our mark of authority. The church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923
"The observance of Sunday by Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) Church." Plain Talk About the Protestantism of Today, by Monsignor Segur, p. 213
"But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that in...observing the Sunday... they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the pope." Our Sunday Visitor, Catholic weekly, Feb. 5, 1950
"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act... a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters." Office of Cardinal Gibbons, through Chancellor C. F. Thomas, Nov. 11, 1895
Clay

United States

#417245 Jan 21, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
how about the Christian who was killed a couple days ago in Hong Kong because he proclaim
Christ as his savior?
not a saint because he wasn't crucified upside down for Christ?
You're a clown
You don't have to be Catholic to be a Saint. You just have to be in Heaven. There are plenty of non Catholics up there.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#417246 Jan 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
WE EVANGELICALS DID NOT CREATE THIS FORUM.
IF YOU ROMAN CATHOLIC ATTACKS WERE NOT DAILY AGAINST US
For "once" (and only once) you are correct!! You did not create this forum---but the fact is that you "came on" this Catholic forum, for "one purpose only"!! To attack, condemn and pass your (bible only) anti-catholic heretical judgment against (not only us Catholics) but against OTHER CHRISTIANS (even Protestants) who disagree with your interpretation (or better yet MISINTERPRETATION of the bible........Any Catholic attacks against you Protestants, have been intitiated and instigated by Protestants like you, who live and preach your "half-truth, half-heresy" Christianity (not to preach the (ecumentical) Gospel of Jesus, but to "degrade, rip, condemn and attack other Christians. I know the Protestant judgmental "game" (against Catholics) ALL TO WELL!...It is the "major part" of your bible only teaching, indoctrination and propaganda beliefs!!You CANNOT EXIST without it!!! Which has been proven, over and over and over again, on this forum by the comments you make.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417247 Jan 21, 2013
The WLC Team firmly believes that the end of all things will be in the next few years. In Daniel and Revelation we have been given many details warning about the end to prevent any from being taken by surprise. Revelation 17:13 foretells that when John Paul II appears again (impersonated by one of Satan’s devils), all world leaders will grant him their power and authority. Sovereignty will be superseded by necessity. All nations will agree to global governance because of severe economic hardship and general chaos. This is why the current economic global crisis will continue to worsen, setting the stage for the beast power to extend its control as never before in its long history. After the re-emergence of Pope John Paul II, the revived beast power will employ every power within its reach to prevent Yahuwah’s people from observing the true seventh-day Sabbath. To this end, news is published which highlights the fulfillment of prophecies around us. We pray that this will help to awaken His people from their stupor, so that the needed repentance and conversion will be pursued

http://www.worldslastchance.com/prophecy-in-n...
Clay

United States

#417248 Jan 21, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Nope theses folks said so. Never read dear Ellens books but maybe I should.
We celebrate Sunday instead of Saturday, because the Catholic Church has transferred the sacredness from Saturday to Sunday at the council of Laodicea in the year of 364 AD." The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, from P. Geiermann, the work of Pope Pius X, on 1-25-1910
According to the Roman Catholic Church 'Sunday' is their distinct and distinguished mark of authority.
"Sunday is our mark of authority. The church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923
"The observance of Sunday by Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) Church." Plain Talk About the Protestantism of Today, by Monsignor Segur, p. 213
"But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that in...observing the Sunday... they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the pope." Our Sunday Visitor, Catholic weekly, Feb. 5, 1950
"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act... a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters." Office of Cardinal Gibbons, through Chancellor C. F. Thomas, Nov. 11, 1895
But I just showed you a direct quote from an early Church father who describes gathering on Sunday for the Mass in 155 AD?
Why do you insist it was established in 364 AD?
preston

Waverly, OH

#417249 Jan 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
If we look at the ring and the fancy duds ...there is no one on earth (that supposed to represent God ) the has more fanfare and showmanship then the pope..
I have not witnessed any one kissing The ring that Benny Hinn is wearing, or bowing down to him.
Neither have I seen him dressed in a as flashy-er garb as the pope and
the cardinals wear.
Rev Hinn doesn't wear a duck bill hat either., nor does he have the zillions of $000000000 at his disposal.
He has to depend upon freewill offerings and gifts from his followers, for His support.
The expenses of His ministry runs into the millions monthly..
Evidently there are those that believe Rev Hinn is for real, or they
would not support Him as they do...
He does not have all his expenses paid by a global organization..as the pope does...and he evidently does a far greater work and wins more souls that are saved and healed than the pope...
get off of your soap box. ben hen never says anything about people getting Saved and you know it. his shows(which are all they are)are a farce and are contemptible to REAL Christians. he needs those millions to cover his large ego, and it is a shame for someone who claims to be a minister to support this charlatan.

now jump on me all you wish, you gave your biased opinion of him because he speaks with a forked tongue, I give my unbiased opine because of that forked tongue of his.

Benny Hinn: Charging to Hear Him Preach
Posted on July 2, 2009 by Chrystal Whitt Benny Hinn maintains that while people may not like to hear him talk about money, money is necessary to do “God’s work.”

Hinn recently lost $2 million on his crusades to Uganda. In the article you can read by clicking here, Hinn apparently has no qualms about charging an entrance fee to get in, which amounts to fifty American dollars. Does this show that Hinn’s passion is God’s Word, or turning a profit?

He laments a loss of revenue, not need of the gospel. When God commissioned the disciples to preach, He didn’t ask that they starve. The Apostle Paul even said that if you preach the gospel, you should make your living from the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:14), meaning they were given support by the church. God didn’t expect them to go without food or clothing. However, Paul did not always excercise this right for fear of hindering the gospel.

What a far cry is the contrast between Benny Hinn and the Apostle Paul. Benny Hinn’s motivation is to make money…the Apostle Paul’s passion was the gospel and edifying the church. Benny Hinn has no problem with taking money from people to turn a profit; the Apostle Paul took nothing for the sake of the gospel. See the contrast?

It is never okay to charge an entrance fee and justify it by saying it takes money to spread the gospel. The face of greed is an ugly sight, isn’t it?

http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/200...
Clay

United States

#417250 Jan 21, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
The WLC Team firmly believes that the end of all things will be in the next few years. In Daniel and Revelation we have been given many details warning about the end to prevent any from being taken by surprise. Revelation 17:13 foretells that when John Paul II appears again (impersonated by one of Satan’s devils), all world leaders will grant him their power and authority. Sovereignty will be superseded by necessity. All nations will agree to global governance because of severe economic hardship and general chaos. This is why the current economic global crisis will continue to worsen, setting the stage for the beast power to extend its control as never before in its long history. After the re-emergence of Pope John Paul II, the revived beast power will employ every power within its reach to prevent Yahuwah’s people from observing the true seventh-day Sabbath. To this end, news is published which highlights the fulfillment of prophecies around us. We pray that this will help to awaken His people from their stupor, so that the needed repentance and conversion will be pursued
http://www.worldslastchance.com/prophecy-in-n...
Are you F#*%in kidding me??
Pope John Paul comes back to Earth as the Anti Christ??

wow.
preston

Waverly, OH

#417251 Jan 21, 2013
and a very good response from Denise.

Denise says:
July 3, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Very sad, and pathetic really, that anyone should charge a fee to hear Truth. However, I suppose the flip side is that since ol’ Hinn isn’t giving the gospel (he hasn’t a clue what that is), then his charging them is really for entertainment (a night of magic).*wink*

I think there is some merit to the notion that there should be NO CHARGE when Scripture is being taught…not at conferences, not at seminars, not at “special” evenings at church with a guest speaker, not at debates. Either feed the sheep without charge, or take the label hireling, you know?

Taking care of pastors is biblical (even then, they need to be careful of expectations and not be a burden to the sheep), but charging people to get into the door to hear Truth is absolutely atrocious.

Keep standing for Biblical Truth!=)

Perhaps its time Americans stop expecting bells and whistles and get down to the simplicity and purity of the Gospel. Demanding entertainment (aka “Christian” worship), and “famous” Christians, is not biblical Christianity. Perhaps if Christians valued the local church more than it does, he’d have less of this nonsense.

creflo dollar; the word of God aint free.

he is right,however the price was paid on the cross of Calvary. the laborer is worthy of his hire, but that doesnt give them the authority to beg for millions of dollars every week on TV.

GIF, you are wrong, very wrong to defend this idiot like you do publicly ALL of the time.

why dont you man up and speak out against this charlatan? for is milking millions off of ignorant and illadvised people who probably cant afford it but do so in the false hope that he gives to those who are gullible
preston

Waverly, OH

#417252 Jan 21, 2013
this is so pathetic that any person could be so STUPID to listen and/or follow this creap.

"My, you know, whoosh! The Holy Ghost is just showing me some stuff. I'm getting dizzy! I'm telling you the truth - it's, it's just heavy right now on me... He's [Jesus] in the underworld now. God isn't there, the Holy Ghost isn't there, and the Bible says He was begotten. Do you know what the word begotten means? It means reborn. Do you want another shocker? Have you been begotten? So was He. Don't let anyone deceive you. Jesus was reborn. You say,'What are you talking about?'... He was reborn. He had to be reborn... If He was not reborn, I could not be reborn, I would never be reborn. How can I face Jesus and say,'Jesus, You went through everything I've gone through, except the new birth?'" (Benny Hinn, Our Position 'In Christ,' Part 1 (Orlando, FL: Orlando Christian Center, 1991), videotape #TV-254.)

"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said,'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin! " (TBN, 12/1/90).
http://www.endtime-prophets.com/wofanothergos...

didnt Karen speak out against someone claiming teh other day that jesus was "reborn"?

Karen are u still on here?
preston

Waverly, OH

#417253 Jan 21, 2013
I think that I would start on cleaning my own house(doctrine and beliefs) before I started on another group of people.

If I were some people.hint, hint
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#417254 Jan 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
But I just showed you a direct quote from an early Church father who describes gathering on Sunday for the Mass in 155 AD?
Why do you insist it was established in 364 AD?
Because he's not a Christian so he's ignorant of the history of Christianity. Come to think of it, he's pretty ignorant in general. That's why the folks here give him so many 'nuts'.

He doesn't think Jesus is God. He thinks He's the archangel Michael or some such nonsense. He's SDA, pretty much the same as JWs. He informs his faith from internet whore sites, crazy cult junk, LOL! He's a nut job.
preston

Waverly, OH

#417255 Jan 21, 2013
Yahuwa...

WHO IN THE WORLD IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE?

AbraUW" or "YAHUWan" is the original language and Wordful (righteous) People of the Scriptures. It means "the language/People/Seed of Abraham who follow YAHUWAH". It is misnamed "Paleo-Hebrew" or "Jewish" by most scholars since the words "Hebrew" and "Jew" are only 400 years old and are both actually "curse words" (breaking the 3rd Commandment), vanatizing (treating it as unimportant, useless) and belittling the Almighty's Eternal Saving Name--"YAHUWAH!"

http://www.kingdomofyah.org/
preston

Waverly, OH

#417256 Jan 21, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Because he's not a Christian so he's ignorant of the history of Christianity. Come to think of it, he's pretty ignorant in general. That's why the folks here give him so many 'nuts'.
He doesn't think Jesus is God. He thinks He's the archangel Michael or some such nonsense. He's SDA, pretty much the same as JWs. He informs his faith from internet whore sites, crazy cult junk, LOL! He's a nut job.
I think he might be even more looney that the sda's. I googled a name from that link that he used and saw this name"Yahuwa...".

I think that I might not wish to visit that kingdom.lol
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#417257 Jan 21, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I think he might be even more looney that the sda's. I googled a name from that link that he used and saw this name"Yahuwa...".
I think that I might not wish to visit that kingdom.lol
It's probably a spelling error on his part. It helps when posting on these boards to have at least a rudimentary grasp of the English language. Third grade ought to do it. He's a little twerp.
preston

Waverly, OH

#417258 Jan 21, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Because he's not a Christian so he's ignorant of the history of Christianity. Come to think of it, he's pretty ignorant in general. That's why the folks here give him so many 'nuts'.
He doesn't think Jesus is God. He thinks He's the archangel Michael or some such nonsense. He's SDA, pretty much the same as JWs. He informs his faith from internet whore sites, crazy cult junk, LOL! He's a nut job.
eventually flakes like guest, oxbox, orville et al reveal themselves to be just that, flakes, and they know nothing about God, His creation, Jesus, His salvation.

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