“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"
#417236 Jan 21, 2013
Robert F wrote:
The Bible is not a book on logic, based on logic. And to jump from one scripture and then to another and presume you can do so, applying logic, is an intellectual pride.
The Bible has literal, figurative, and spiritual in natures with some overlapping....
No one can define God.
It is not a sin to try and understand God, rather to presume you can by logic.
Darn good insight Robert.
The Bible is the inerrant word of God, and not subject to either of your private evaluations.
It is the Book that all Christians, and sinners will be judged by....when they stand before God in the last day.
It is the ultimate standard that the lives of all man kind will be compared to/measured by...
BEST PAY HEAD TO IT...
THE HOLY SPIRIT DID NOT WRITE NOR DID HE INSPIRE A CATECHISM.
ONLY WHAT GOD HAS SPOKEN FORTH AND SENT HAS HIS APPROVAL ...
ALL ELSE IS HOG WASH...
Isa_55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Rev_20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
THERE IS NO OTHER WORDS THAT MAN HAVE CONJURED UP THAT IS SPIRIT AND LIFE
THE WORDS OF SPIRIT AND LIFE GIVEN/SPOKEN BY JESUS.... ARE THE ONLY WAY ONE DISCERNS/UNDERSTANDS ,WHAT IS FLESH/CARNAL AND WHAT IS OF THE SPIRIT.
Rom_8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co_16:18 For they have refreshed my spirit and yours: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.
1Pe_4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
#417237 Jan 21, 2013
Peter's tomb discovered in Jerusalem --- because he never went to Rome.
#417238 Jan 21, 2013
Wrong again "BS" which is par for the course with you!! I don't hate Protestants!! I was one for over 35 years and I still have many (common) Protestant "brothers and sister friends (in Christ) from those early years. We can "share out faith" with each other, sharing our common love, worship and reverence for Christ (openly) and still respect each others differences..... The blatant and hostile attacks on this forum have been intitiated from Protestants who come on this Catholic Forum to spread their "snake oil venom" of Protestant condemnation and judgement against other Christians (especially Catholics). The fact is bible only Protestantism (never has, nor ever will be) able to stand on its own doctrine of believes without (having to attack) the Catholic Church and the VERIFIABLE BIBLICAL AND HISTORICAL TRUTH of 2000 years of Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church!
“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"
#417239 Jan 21, 2013
YOU ARE AS FLAKY AS A SNOW STORM.
WE EVANGELICALS DID NOT CREATE THIS FORUM.
IF YOU ROMAN CATHOLIC ATTACKS WERE NOT DAILY AGAINST US
We would have no reason to defend the truth of GOD'S WORD against your conjecture.
Your pope is the one that has challenged us...
He repeated what other popes have said OVER THE CENTURIES.
Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican
The Vatican issued a document Tuesday restating its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 1:18 For -->the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; <--
Since: Feb 08
#417240 Jan 21, 2013
This is scripture;
1 Timothy 3 KJV
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
>>>>God was manifest in the flesh,
justified in the Spirit,
seen of angels,
preached unto the Gentiles,
believed on in the world,
received up into glory.
Oxbow,can't you see it?
It's not that complicated.
#417241 Jan 21, 2013
Did not these following people represent YOUR CHURCH so it is not the protestant church's at fault as you would like to claim.
#417242 Jan 21, 2013
I guess I would be a clown if I really thought a person needed to be crucified to be a saint.
I don't think that though...so I'm not sure why you implied it.
#417243 Jan 21, 2013
Why WOULD Hinn be anything special. He is one in a million self proclaimed ministers who picked up a Bible and declared themselves an authority.
The Pope, on the other hand, is one of 265 who sat in Saint Peters chair as head of the Church Christ started.
#417244 Jan 21, 2013
Nope theses folks said so. Never read dear Ellens books but maybe I should.
We celebrate Sunday instead of Saturday, because the Catholic Church has transferred the sacredness from Saturday to Sunday at the council of Laodicea in the year of 364 AD." The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, from P. Geiermann, the work of Pope Pius X, on 1-25-1910
According to the Roman Catholic Church 'Sunday' is their distinct and distinguished mark of authority.
"Sunday is our mark of authority. The church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923
"The observance of Sunday by Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) Church." Plain Talk About the Protestantism of Today, by Monsignor Segur, p. 213
"But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that in...observing the Sunday... they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the pope." Our Sunday Visitor, Catholic weekly, Feb. 5, 1950
"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act... a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters." Office of Cardinal Gibbons, through Chancellor C. F. Thomas, Nov. 11, 1895
#417245 Jan 21, 2013
You don't have to be Catholic to be a Saint. You just have to be in Heaven. There are plenty of non Catholics up there.
#417246 Jan 21, 2013
For "once" (and only once) you are correct!! You did not create this forum---but the fact is that you "came on" this Catholic forum, for "one purpose only"!! To attack, condemn and pass your (bible only) anti-catholic heretical judgment against (not only us Catholics) but against OTHER CHRISTIANS (even Protestants) who disagree with your interpretation (or better yet MISINTERPRETATION of the bible........Any Catholic attacks against you Protestants, have been intitiated and instigated by Protestants like you, who live and preach your "half-truth, half-heresy" Christianity (not to preach the (ecumentical) Gospel of Jesus, but to "degrade, rip, condemn and attack other Christians. I know the Protestant judgmental "game" (against Catholics) ALL TO WELL!...It is the "major part" of your bible only teaching, indoctrination and propaganda beliefs!!You CANNOT EXIST without it!!! Which has been proven, over and over and over again, on this forum by the comments you make.
#417247 Jan 21, 2013
The WLC Team firmly believes that the end of all things will be in the next few years. In Daniel and Revelation we have been given many details warning about the end to prevent any from being taken by surprise. Revelation 17:13 foretells that when John Paul II appears again (impersonated by one of Satan’s devils), all world leaders will grant him their power and authority. Sovereignty will be superseded by necessity. All nations will agree to global governance because of severe economic hardship and general chaos. This is why the current economic global crisis will continue to worsen, setting the stage for the beast power to extend its control as never before in its long history. After the re-emergence of Pope John Paul II, the revived beast power will employ every power within its reach to prevent Yahuwah’s people from observing the true seventh-day Sabbath. To this end, news is published which highlights the fulfillment of prophecies around us. We pray that this will help to awaken His people from their stupor, so that the needed repentance and conversion will be pursued
#417248 Jan 21, 2013
But I just showed you a direct quote from an early Church father who describes gathering on Sunday for the Mass in 155 AD?
Why do you insist it was established in 364 AD?
#417249 Jan 21, 2013
get off of your soap box. ben hen never says anything about people getting Saved and you know it. his shows(which are all they are)are a farce and are contemptible to REAL Christians. he needs those millions to cover his large ego, and it is a shame for someone who claims to be a minister to support this charlatan.
now jump on me all you wish, you gave your biased opinion of him because he speaks with a forked tongue, I give my unbiased opine because of that forked tongue of his.
Benny Hinn: Charging to Hear Him Preach
Posted on July 2, 2009 by Chrystal Whitt Benny Hinn maintains that while people may not like to hear him talk about money, money is necessary to do “God’s work.”
Hinn recently lost $2 million on his crusades to Uganda. In the article you can read by clicking here, Hinn apparently has no qualms about charging an entrance fee to get in, which amounts to fifty American dollars. Does this show that Hinn’s passion is God’s Word, or turning a profit?
He laments a loss of revenue, not need of the gospel. When God commissioned the disciples to preach, He didn’t ask that they starve. The Apostle Paul even said that if you preach the gospel, you should make your living from the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:14), meaning they were given support by the church. God didn’t expect them to go without food or clothing. However, Paul did not always excercise this right for fear of hindering the gospel.
What a far cry is the contrast between Benny Hinn and the Apostle Paul. Benny Hinn’s motivation is to make money…the Apostle Paul’s passion was the gospel and edifying the church. Benny Hinn has no problem with taking money from people to turn a profit; the Apostle Paul took nothing for the sake of the gospel. See the contrast?
It is never okay to charge an entrance fee and justify it by saying it takes money to spread the gospel. The face of greed is an ugly sight, isn’t it?
#417250 Jan 21, 2013
Are you F#*%in kidding me??
Pope John Paul comes back to Earth as the Anti Christ??
#417251 Jan 21, 2013
and a very good response from Denise.
July 3, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Very sad, and pathetic really, that anyone should charge a fee to hear Truth. However, I suppose the flip side is that since ol’ Hinn isn’t giving the gospel (he hasn’t a clue what that is), then his charging them is really for entertainment (a night of magic).*wink*
I think there is some merit to the notion that there should be NO CHARGE when Scripture is being taught…not at conferences, not at seminars, not at “special” evenings at church with a guest speaker, not at debates. Either feed the sheep without charge, or take the label hireling, you know?
Taking care of pastors is biblical (even then, they need to be careful of expectations and not be a burden to the sheep), but charging people to get into the door to hear Truth is absolutely atrocious.
Keep standing for Biblical Truth!=)
Perhaps its time Americans stop expecting bells and whistles and get down to the simplicity and purity of the Gospel. Demanding entertainment (aka “Christian” worship), and “famous” Christians, is not biblical Christianity. Perhaps if Christians valued the local church more than it does, he’d have less of this nonsense.
creflo dollar; the word of God aint free.
he is right,however the price was paid on the cross of Calvary. the laborer is worthy of his hire, but that doesnt give them the authority to beg for millions of dollars every week on TV.
GIF, you are wrong, very wrong to defend this idiot like you do publicly ALL of the time.
why dont you man up and speak out against this charlatan? for is milking millions off of ignorant and illadvised people who probably cant afford it but do so in the false hope that he gives to those who are gullible
#417252 Jan 21, 2013
this is so pathetic that any person could be so STUPID to listen and/or follow this creap.
"My, you know, whoosh! The Holy Ghost is just showing me some stuff. I'm getting dizzy! I'm telling you the truth - it's, it's just heavy right now on me... He's [Jesus] in the underworld now. God isn't there, the Holy Ghost isn't there, and the Bible says He was begotten. Do you know what the word begotten means? It means reborn. Do you want another shocker? Have you been begotten? So was He. Don't let anyone deceive you. Jesus was reborn. You say,'What are you talking about?'... He was reborn. He had to be reborn... If He was not reborn, I could not be reborn, I would never be reborn. How can I face Jesus and say,'Jesus, You went through everything I've gone through, except the new birth?'" (Benny Hinn, Our Position 'In Christ,' Part 1 (Orlando, FL: Orlando Christian Center, 1991), videotape #TV-254.)
"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said,'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin! " (TBN, 12/1/90).
didnt Karen speak out against someone claiming teh other day that jesus was "reborn"?
Karen are u still on here?
#417253 Jan 21, 2013
I think that I would start on cleaning my own house(doctrine and beliefs) before I started on another group of people.
If I were some people.hint, hint
#417254 Jan 21, 2013
Because he's not a Christian so he's ignorant of the history of Christianity. Come to think of it, he's pretty ignorant in general. That's why the folks here give him so many 'nuts'.
He doesn't think Jesus is God. He thinks He's the archangel Michael or some such nonsense. He's SDA, pretty much the same as JWs. He informs his faith from internet whore sites, crazy cult junk, LOL! He's a nut job.
#417255 Jan 21, 2013
WHO IN THE WORLD IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE?
AbraUW" or "YAHUWan" is the original language and Wordful (righteous) People of the Scriptures. It means "the language/People/Seed of Abraham who follow YAHUWAH". It is misnamed "Paleo-Hebrew" or "Jewish" by most scholars since the words "Hebrew" and "Jew" are only 400 years old and are both actually "curse words" (breaking the 3rd Commandment), vanatizing (treating it as unimportant, useless) and belittling the Almighty's Eternal Saving Name--"YAHUWAH!"
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