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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590840 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

United States

#417024 Jan 21, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>the church doesn't lie? they lied about the extent of the abuse,they lied about laundering money,and they lied about bank fraud,there lying about being the true church,they lie about the traditions that exist only within the catholic church,show me one shred of proof that i'm wrong in all i just stated.
I the Church doesn't lie or use deception in her teachings, and you can't prove otherwise.

You followed it up with a rant about money laundering and fraud.
Case closed.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#417026 Jan 21, 2013
You fool me not wrote:
<quoted text>
You are an ex-Catholic and yet, you continue to visit these Catholic threads. For a long time now, I have been reading many of your posts and I have no doubt about your true motives.
You keep coming back in order to:
1- Bash the Church in an attempt to keep others from possibly joining the Church and therefore add to the number of haters of the Church. You do this in order to mitigate the guilt you feel for abandoning the true Church (you do know in your heart that Catholicism is the truth but you have chosen yourself over God).
2- You seek sympathy from other haters such as yourself because you want to be perceived as a victim and the Church as a monster. Of course, you do this in a futile effort to validate your contempt for the Catholic Church.
“I don't care what anyone says”
There you have it. You have decided that you WILL NOT listen to the truth because you are too proud and rebellious.
I can only feel sorry for you. You have chosen the path that leads to destruction.
she has chosen the right path,for a church to knowingly allow child abuse to go inside it's walls and say and do nothing is abominable,that goes for all of them,this is a catholic forum so we decuss the catholic church.as stated by me,the church pissed off islam,they are blowing up catholic churches in africa,it's probably a smart thing to get out of the church cause the next one that they blow could be the one YOU ARE SITTING IN.for me it's the lie they are spreading about being the true church,that is a falsehood,considering it's history of horrors and the fact that god/jesus has done nothing to stop them,one can conclude it's not the true church,stop and think about it,if it were you who in charge of a conglomerate like the catholic church and things were going bad like they are,wouldn't step in and do something to stop it? people are leaving by the hundreds,churches,schools,hosp itals run by the church are closing all bnecause they were STUPID,they allowed pedophile priests to remain among the public in reach of children and god/jesus did nothing to stop it so that says it's not their church,it is just a construction of one mans ideals to keep his nation happy and that was emporer constantine,he is the creator of the catholic church,not a god or the son of a god,it is not written anywhere in scripture the catholic church is the church jesus mentions on building in the book of mathew,he says "MY CHURCH" not catholic church just my church,where jesus is,so is his church,i doubt he would leave it in the hands of corrupt,inmoral,fallible man.To lead the true church you would have to be infallible like jesus and god are suppose to be,We do not know for sure a god even exists it's a guess,it's called blind faith for a reason,because the scriptures can be proven they are the true story of a god.if YOU can prove beyond a doubt the one god theory is true,and the catholic church is the true church,show the proof.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#417027 Jan 21, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts confuse them.
Links make them angry.
The price of spiritual superiority.
to be clear,your telling me the catholic church is superior over others?? a simple yes or no will do. you can explain why or why not later.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#417028 Jan 21, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
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You're a bit incorrect. I come here to try to understand how in the world I ever believed in some of the obvious nonsense grown men teach! All I can come up with was I was a kid, my Dad was dying and I was very vulnerable. Needed something to cling to. I WILL listen to truth if I find any here. As for me choosing the path that leads to destruction - are you saying all non-Catholics have chosen that? If you are, you are way out of line. There are many, many pious and good non-Catholics. As I've said countless times before, when I was young I never questioned. Now I surely do! I will state true motives any and every time. I haven't a thing to hide. In fact, I have a few nice memories. Do you honestly believe your church has the "fullness of truth?" It does NOT. I don't think you're a bad person for believing it, I just think your religion is in error in many ways.
very well put Sherlayne.as the poem/song says:When I was young and they packed me off to school
And taught me how not to play the game,
I didn't mind if they groomed me for success,
Or if they said that I was a fool.
So I left there in the morning
With their God tucked underneath my arm --
Their half-assed smiles and the book of rules.
So I asked this God a question
And by way of firm reply,
He said -- I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays.
So to my old headmaster (and to anyone who cares):
Before I'm through I'd like to say my prayers --
I don't believe you:
You had the whole damn thing all wrong --
He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays.
Well you can excomunicate me on my way to Sunday school
And have all the bishops harmonize these lines --
How do you dare tell me that I'm my Father's son
When that was just an accident of Birth.
I'd rather look around me -- compose a better song
`cos that's the honest measure of my worth.
In your pomp and all your glory you're a poorer man than me,
As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
I don't believe you:
You had the whole damn thing all wrong --
He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#417029 Jan 21, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
More - Do I come here to keep others from joining? Hell, no! I'm a truthseeker and a realist. Believe what you want. Some of the stuff I see posted here makes me realize some folks are just stuck on stupid. THEY are the ones who will not consider TRUTH. When a person refuses to open their mind and consider alternate viewpoints, it's called "brainwashed". They are the ones to feel sorry for.
JETHRO:your a realist? you stealing my religion?i'm a realist/evolutionist, off to the dungeon with you,rations of bread and water only, if we remember to feed you,then the rack for you,after a good stretching,40 lashes across your back,and then one of the most hiddeous devices the church torturers invented "THE PEAR!",a painful device that is inserted in a certain area, two places on women one on man (you catch my drift?)very painful,tears a person apart inside,most die from infection after the use of this device.now aren't you glad i'm not catholic?? and welcome to my religion (standing ovation). question,do you believe in evolution at all?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#417030 Jan 21, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts confuse them.
You could post 100 links, it will mean nothing.
The cult will continue to chant "All 6783 Popes have been perfect in every way and anything to the contrary is just rumor, forgery, hatred, nah, nah, nah..."
6783 popes? your number is slightly off, there have only been 265 men that have been popes.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#417032 Jan 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
"I'll help you "go on" with your Protestant hypocricy!!
How many Catholics were murdered by the Protestants during their "reformation"?
Calvin sought to persecute Roman Catholics so as to keep Protestant believers in the lands divided by the Reformation faithful to his new teachings. He viciously persecuted the Spaniard, Michael Servetus,a Catholic, having him burnt alive on October 27, 1553. As early as 1545, Calvin had written,“If he [Servetus] comes to Geneva, I will never allow him to depart alive.”
Melancthon, one of the more mild reformers and the editor for Luther’s many works and teachings, would write to Bullinger,“I am astonished that some persons denounce the severity that was so justly used in that case.”[In reference to execution of Roman Catholics]
Theodore of Beza wrote:“What crime can be greater or more heinous than heresy, which sets at nought the word of God and all ecclesiastic discipline? Christian magistrates, do your duty to God [speaking in Calvin's Geneva of 1554], who has put the sword into your hands for the honor of His majesty; strike valiantly these Catholic monsters in the guise of men.” He went on to characterize those who demanded freedom of conscience “worse than the tyranny of the pope. It is better to have a tyrant, no matter how cruel he may be, than to let everyone do as he pleases.”
Martin Luther also fanned the flames of Catholic intolerance,“Whoever teaches otherwise than I teach, condemns God, and must remain a child of hell.”
King Henry VIII of England, who took upon himself the role of grand royal inquisitor, took the lives of some 72,000 Catholics, many who were cruelly tortured.
Queen Elizabeth, proved herself the former’s daughter by putting to death more Catholics in one year than the Inquisition had done in 331 years!
Irish Catholic Holocaust ---. By the mid-19th century, Ireland was a country of Eight Million, mostly peasants. As a result of years of exploitation, they survived as tenant farmers and were never far from economic disaster. They were forced to exist on a single crop: the potato. A disease turned the potato into a foul slime. When the Irish masses turned to the British government for relief, they were denied.
Meanwhile,“Food, from 30 to 50 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint (from Ireland) by 12,000 British constables, reinforced by 200,000 British soldiers, warships, excise vessels, and coast guards... Britain seized from Ireland’s producers tens of millions of head of livestock, tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry and dairy products-enough to sustain 18-million persons.”[20]. Note: While the British occupied Northern Ireland millions of Irish Catholics were starving from lack of food not the British.
Gallagher estimates 2 million died from the famine. Writer Chris Fogarty, places the numbers “murdered at approximately 5.16 million, making it the Irish holocaust.” Distinguished legal scholars, like Professors Charles Rice of Notre Dame U. and Francis A. Boyle, U. of Illinois, believe that under International Law, that the British pursued a barbarous policy of mass starvation of Catholics in Ireland from 1845-50, and that such conduct constituted “genocide.”
amazing how you condenm others for autrocities or pay back against the catholic church,but what the church did to people is ok with you,how can you rationalize that?they were the first to use inhumane acts against man to develope a following,then people smartened up struck back against constantines church and you say it's wrong,i don't think so,after all the bible says an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#417033 Jan 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
I the Church doesn't lie or use deception in her teachings, and you can't prove otherwise. You followed it up with a rant about money laundering and fraud.
Case closed.
show me inscripture that the traditions of the catholic church are devine teachings and not man made traditions?
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#417034 Jan 21, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>in defense of myself i do not bash catholics here,i bash the church for it's lack of responding to the child abuse problem over the decades,and now the man that knows the most about it,is made pope to keep us from finding out the whole truth,and that is wrong,he is guilty of a crime and should be punished for it just any person wpould be after all he's just an ordinary man with diplomatic immunity.
Hey Jethro, sorry I was not clear.

I don't think offering opinion backed by links -- all relevant to the board topic is "bashing" anyone.

If the complainers don't want facts and opinion 100% on board topic, they really should not be here. All their talk of "bashing and hatred" is just one more form of denial. For example, if you were to post this link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pope-be...

It addresses your statement directly and is 100% on board topic.

But the whiners will cry "hatred."

No problem. The Pope is welcome to forget diplomatic immunity and to allow a full and independent investigation. The whiners will be vindicated and the world will move on.

I am told that will happen when pigs learn to fly.
Clay

United States

#417035 Jan 21, 2013
guest wrote:
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O! brainwashed one!... the TRUTH is all that matters! Christ promised his PRESENCE 'til the end and he meant it.
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His *presence* is in his words, "Love your neighbor as yourself."
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NOT the words of the 'pope' who ordered "torture, death and destruction of *heretics*."
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according to you - a bigot is one who tells the actual truth which YOU can't handle.
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You will know the TRUTH and the TRUTH will set you free.
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From what?
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The truth sets you free from ALL the lies ... such as, "torture, death and destruction of *heretics*."
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...Jesus NEVER ordered that! what can possibly make you think a mere POPE has the *right* to?
If a Pope ordered a murder, then he is in Hell (assuming he didn't repent). He committed a mortal sin and violated Catholic teachings.
The Church still carried on, proclaiming the truth in the gospel.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#417036 Jan 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I the Church doesn't lie or use deception in her teachings, and you can't prove otherwise.
You followed it up with a rant about money laundering and fraud.
Case closed.
Only Clay's mind is closed.

2013...

Cash only at the Vatican now.

http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/0...

"Since Wednesday, museums and businesses in the Holy See have been declining credit card and debit card purchases following a decision by the Bank of Italy that is reportedly linked to concerns over inadequate money-laundering controls.

Cash machines have also been shut down after the Italian central bank refused authorization for Deutsche Bank’s Italian unit to continue operating services it provided within the Vatican’s walls."

2012....

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/a-...

2010...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/12/money-l...

This goes on and on, back to the 1980s at least.

Goofy Catholics in denial again.

2013 -- BUSTED
2012 -- Busted
2010 -- Busted
....
>>>>
1980 -- Busted
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#417037 Jan 21, 2013
Imagine not being able to trust Jesus' ONLY TRUE BANK?

"Since Wednesday, museums and businesses in the Holy See have been declining credit card and debit card purchases following a decision by the Bank of Italy that is reportedly linked to concerns over inadequate money-laundering controls.

Cash machines have also been shut down after the Italian central bank refused authorization for Deutsche Bank’s Italian unit to continue operating services it provided within the Vatican’s walls."
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#417038 Jan 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again,(as usual) which is (exactly) like the rest of your other 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent Protestant bible only (half-truth, half heresy Christian denominations. The "only thing" proven about the Protestant "hodge-podge" of "circus-merry-go-round " beliefs of confusion and chaos is that they (have never), nor (will ever_, agree on ANYTHING accept attacking, condemning and passing their "personal opinion" judgement against the TRUTH: the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only) True Church---the Catholic Church....... Since Martin Luther and the Reformation in the 1500's , Protestantism has acquired a "proven track record" of distorting and manipulating the TRUE interpretation of the bible (all 42,000+ of them--- to their own "demise and destruction"!! YOU CAN HAVE IT!! IT IS ALL YOURS!!! I'll stick to the historical and biblical TRUTH of Christs ONLY True Church that has existed for over 2000 years. YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT!!!
The only way for Catholics to even think they refute the truth -- chant and attack all others. But above all, ignore the facts on the ground.

zzzzzzzzzzz
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#417039 Jan 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
"I'll help you "go on" with your Protestant hypocricy!!
How many Catholics were murdered by the Protestants during their "reformation"?
Calvin sought to persecute Roman Catholics so as to keep Protestant believers in the lands divided by the Reformation faithful to his new teachings. He viciously persecuted the Spaniard, Michael Servetus,a Catholic, having him burnt alive on October 27, 1553. As early as 1545, Calvin had written,“If he [Servetus] comes to Geneva, I will never allow him to depart alive.”
Melancthon, one of the more mild reformers and the editor for Luther’s many works and teachings, would write to Bullinger,“I am astonished that some persons denounce the severity that was so justly used in that case.”[In reference to execution of Roman Catholics]
Theodore of Beza wrote:“What crime can be greater or more heinous than heresy, which sets at nought the word of God and all ecclesiastic discipline? Christian magistrates, do your duty to God [speaking in Calvin's Geneva of 1554], who has put the sword into your hands for the honor of His majesty; strike valiantly these Catholic monsters in the guise of men.” He went on to characterize those who demanded freedom of conscience “worse than the tyranny of the pope. It is better to have a tyrant, no matter how cruel he may be, than to let everyone do as he pleases.”
Martin Luther also fanned the flames of Catholic intolerance,“Whoever teaches otherwise than I teach, condemns God, and must remain a child of hell.”
King Henry VIII of England, who took upon himself the role of grand royal inquisitor, took the lives of some 72,000 Catholics, many who were cruelly tortured.
Queen Elizabeth, proved herself the former’s daughter by putting to death more Catholics in one year than the Inquisition had done in 331 years!
Irish Catholic Holocaust ---. By the mid-19th century, Ireland was a country of Eight Million, mostly peasants. As a result of years of exploitation, they survived as tenant farmers and were never far from economic disaster. They were forced to exist on a single crop: the potato. A disease turned the potato into a foul slime. When the Irish masses turned to the British government for relief, they were denied.
Meanwhile,“Food, from 30 to 50 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint (from Ireland) by 12,000 British constables, reinforced by 200,000 British soldiers, warships, excise vessels, and coast guards... Britain seized from Ireland’s producers tens of millions of head of livestock, tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry and dairy products-enough to sustain 18-million persons.”[20]. Note: While the British occupied Northern Ireland millions of Irish Catholics were starving from lack of food not the British.
Gallagher estimates 2 million died from the famine. Writer Chris Fogarty, places the numbers “murdered at approximately 5.16 million, making it the Irish holocaust.” Distinguished legal scholars, like Professors Charles Rice of Notre Dame U. and Francis A. Boyle, U. of Illinois, believe that under International Law, that the British pursued a barbarous policy of mass starvation of Catholics in Ireland from 1845-50, and that such conduct constituted “genocide.”
Yep, horrible American Protestants and deists -- gave Catholics the right to vote for the first time in world history.

Welcomed millions of starving Catholics immigrants to these shores.

Now they turn on America with the vile posted above.
truth

Perth, Australia

#417041 Jan 21, 2013
i fill wounds of foot lag left and right..so painfull swallowing..yes pray for people in need..my attackers not pray i know that but i am prayer..i will pray with my last breath..not to wish your disire is wish have everything..we have many things what we wish on this planet but not relize how much destructive as well so perfect to destruct or destroy without knowing..i don't know what i have to do..put in fire again what i drove..oh trough tiny chips its will be so powerfull..not to wish anything to have..people with modern innovation can understood but others can't..i wish peace for everybody you need work modern then anything stop spreding modern tehnology..future generation not going exist if we not stop..
he have long hair on midlle divedd he took me for my hand and bring here in this city..i walk between them where nothing alive exist anymore..pray for me as yourself as well try not to wish deadly6y tehnology.
don't blame others who give warning..take as warning not to wish as destruction..no
Clay

United States

#417040 Jan 21, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>show me inscripture that the traditions of the catholic church are devine teachings and not man made traditions?
Well, for starters, sacred tradition came before the Christian scriptures. Not a single thing from the New Testament was written down for the first 20 or so yrs of Christianity. That's a long time for a Church to function.... unless they had the Holy Mass and Sacraments.
We know that during the Holy Mass ( a sacred tradition) writings of the Apostles were eventually read as well as the Hebrew books of the OT. Also, writings of the Apostolic fathers, like Clement an Ignatius were read too.
300 yrs later, the Roman Catholic Church decided to put together an official canon. They held councils and infallibly declared the current 27 books to be sacred scripture.
You see, it took sacred tradition and the teaching Magistrium of the Catholic Church to put together a Bible.
Remember Jethro, Christ never commanded a Bible be established for His Ministry, only a Church.
The Apostles clearly organized a hierarchy of Bishops, Priests and Deacons.
Clay

United States

#417042 Jan 21, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Only Clay's mind is closed.
2013...
Cash only at the Vatican now.
http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/0...
"Since Wednesday, museums and businesses in the Holy See have been declining credit card and debit card purchases following a decision by the Bank of Italy that is reportedly linked to concerns over inadequate money-laundering controls.
Cash machines have also been shut down after the Italian central bank refused authorization for Deutsche Bank’s Italian unit to continue operating services it provided within the Vatican’s walls."
2012....
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/a-...
2010...
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/12/money-l...
This goes on and on, back to the 1980s at least.
Goofy Catholics in denial again.
2013 -- BUSTED
2012 -- Busted
2010 -- Busted
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>>>>
1980 -- Busted
The Priest at my childhood parish ripped off the collection plate and blew it at the casino.(true story)
Therefore, the CC from top to bottom is a money laundering wicked organization. All their teachings are wrong, and all the Popes are in hell.
That's mike and frees logic!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417044 Jan 21, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
<quoted text>
May I ask you what 7th Day Catholic means? Thank you.
Universal 7 day weekly cycle and observance of Gods day of rest from the beginning of creation.
Clay

United States

#417043 Jan 21, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
The only way for Catholics to even think they refute the truth -- chant and attack all others. But above all, ignore the facts on the ground.
zzzzzzzzzzz
Eh, its almost 930 am CST and you haven't quoted what the children at Fatima said Mary said.
We keep forgetting unless you remind us 2 to 3 times a day. Don't forget to call her a vulgar name.(Jesus may have a word with you someday)
Catholic Girl

Bethpage, NY

#417046 Jan 21, 2013
Sheryland, good question. Still no answer but good inquiry. Inquiring minds need to know. :)

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