Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#416916 Jan 20, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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NASL
There is a difference between creating and making.
Have you created any atoms or photons today?
No, you have just rearranged them. That is making.
Basic law of the Universe...,matter and energy are neither created or destroyed, only transmutted....
I create many things. You are just too closed minded to accept it.

Here is a simple one. I just created a moment. Oops there it went into the past. Here I'll create another.

This is nice.....*smiles*.....AAAAHHHH !!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#416917 Jan 20, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
Things Jesus Never Said:
Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations
By writing a book and giving it to each individual
So that they can decide on their own, without consulting you,
All things that I have commanded you.
http://www.catholicmemes.com/quotes/things-je...
Things Jesus did say:

(3) Jesus says:

(1) "If those who lead you say to you:‘Look, the kingdom is in the sky!’
then the birds of the sky will precede you.
(2) If they say to you:‘It is in the sea,’ then the fishes will precede you.
(3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you."
(4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known,
and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
(5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty."

(5) Jesus says:

(1) "Come to know what is in front of you,
and that which is hidden from you will become clear to you.
(2) For there is nothing hidden that will not become manifest."

(6)

(1) His disciples questioned him,(and) they said to him:
" Do you want us to fast?
And how should we pray and give alms?
And what diet should we observe?"

(2) Jesus says: "Do not lie.(3) And do not do what you hate.
(4) For everything is disclosed in view of <the truth>.
(5) For there is nothing hidden that will not become revealed.
(6) And there is nothing covered that will remain undisclosed."

I like playing this game.

How honest are you?
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416918 Jan 20, 2013
hojo wrote:
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You can read about (all the exaggerated- blown-up and out-of-proportion "hype") and "so-called abuse cover-up" in the "National Inquirer weekly or just ask Confrinting, Michael, PAD, jethro8, LTM or any other, Catholic bashing (heretic and hypocrit) on this forum.
.....ANY of them will "fill you in" on their "anti-catholic" obscure and remote trash articles that they (dig-up)written by "hack writers" who lay away at might, trying to come up with some more of their "distorted and perverted" copy as they "unsuccessfully" attempt to undermine Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.....The fact is that "bible only Protestants" "throw out more whoppers than burger king" and are as "desperate as ever" and will "say anything and everything" resorting to more and more lying, manipulating, and distorting, by exaggerating and twisting the truth, in order to keep their 42,000+ bible only (boats) from sinking deeper and deeper into oblivian.
!!
The spiritually superior Catholic Hojo confuses faith with fact.

Like the title of this board -- the spiritually-superior one terms the faith of others as "whoopers."

Hojo, after 1600-2000 years -- the FACT is that your superior "Only-True" claim should stand up to historical, real world events and reality.

The REALITY is that the RCC has not lived or taught perfect morals.

The reality is that you live in a country founded on ideals that were (and some still are) very anti-Catholic. Your brothers live to the south. Why not enjoy the fruits of your superior moral teachings?

The spiritually-superior RCC doesn't walk its talk.

Why should Hojo?

We get it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#416919 Jan 20, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
855
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And God said: Mt 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased..
God did not say: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is me in whom I am well pleased..
If you want a learn about what was written, one must step outside the comfort of Christianity.

For a very good beginning point on textual criticism, you should read Bart Ehrman's book, "Misquoting Jesus", and then utilize that step in understanding the misconceptions of the Bible.

Good luck.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#416920 Jan 20, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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There is no such website called "yougotquestions". LTM, you lack basic comprehension and grammar skills. I'm not wanting to be critical of you, but you have no business trying to read and understand the bible. And sadly you haven't been able to overcome your tendencies to lie. You are not trustworthy. There's really nothing you post here regarding your interpretation of scripture that any Christian should pay attention too.
Anthony, you don't conprehend the seriousness of calling a cow holy.
My grammer skills should be the least of your worry's.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416921 Jan 20, 2013
You fool me not wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.catholicmemes.com/quotes/things-je...
Jesus founded the Catholic Church; he didn’t leave us the Bible.
The Bible is a product of the Catholic Church; God didn’t throw it down on Earth from heaven.
Jesus did not give you, so-called Just_a_Christian, the official authority to interpret the Bible correctly and without error.
You are not your own pope or anybody else's pope. Your personal interpretation of the Bible is just it-personal. It’s not binding on you or anybody else.
Stop being so hateful and arrogant.
Please stop leading people astray and on the path to hell.
Got it. Under the banner of spiritual-superiority, another RCC goofball claims the RCC "interprets the Bible correctly and without error."

OK goofball catholic, it's been a long time -- where's the beef?

What are the historical fruits of these perfect teachings?

Why do you live in a country founded on traditionally anti-catholic ideals?

Move south and enjoy your totalitarian catholic ethic in the real world.

No? Go figure?

“People say I look like him! ”

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#416922 Jan 20, 2013
Hmm. So if the Roman Catholic Church is the only one true church...then what are all these buildings at every street corner with crosses on them doing there, and what is their purpose?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#416923 Jan 20, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
853
<quoted text>
Absolute truth from Scripture.....
They can't accept the truth Oxbow.
Its bibical, they don't believe what the bible says.
The catholic's wrote their own bible its called the catechism that is what they follow.
Which goes against Gods Holy Scriptures; yet they take credit for giving the bible to the world.
Hmmm still trying to figure that one out.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#416924 Jan 20, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Anthony, you don't conprehend the seriousness of calling a cow holy.
My grammer skills should be the least of your worry's.
I agree with the person who posted the nut icon.

I am nuts for responding to anything anthony posts.
and a few others on here.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416925 Jan 20, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Dan, it's strange reading a Catholic asking for links as back-up. Everything is easily found with a simple Google search. No problem. Wouldn't it be nice if BOTH sides used the same standards?!
Mary's words at Fatima, 1917:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of...
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI."
Again, a simple search will show pages of supporting links, plus everything is footnoted.
RCC and diplomatic immunity:
Wikileaks caused a lot of press, especially in Ireland.
http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/27593
Of course you mmay view many sources as "anti-Catholic," but you can easily research to verify info. This link provides some history:
http://www.concordatwatch.eu/showtopic.php...
Look, it's already Monday in Australia!
"Archbishop used immunity in civil suit"
http://www.smh.com.au/world/archbishop-used-i...
Again, this is easy to confirm. You'll find news stories worldwide. Heck, I even provided a link from tomorrow (Australia).
Now for the excuses and denial -- exactly the opposite of what the RCC claims is needed for a "true confession."
I post these links because "official teaching" or not, these links show RCC fraud, lies, and immoral behavior -- at the institutional level.

These are not the sins of mere individuals. These are examples of institutional RCC fraud, lies, and immorality.

Spiritually and morally superior? Nope, BUSTED.
marge

Ames, IA

#416926 Jan 20, 2013
You fool me not wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.catholicmemes.com/quotes/things-je...
Jesus founded the Catholic Church; he didn’t leave us the Bible.
The Bible is a product of the Catholic Church; God didn’t throw it down on Earth from heaven.
Jesus did not give you, so-called Just_a_Christian, the official authority to interpret the Bible correctly and without error.
You are not your own pope or anybody else's pope. Your personal interpretation of the Bible is just it-personal. It’s not binding on you or anybody else.
Stop being so hateful and arrogant.
Please stop leading people astray and on the path to hell.
Regina is that you? nice pic lol.

The preaching of ministers should be examined by the Scriptures. Their doctrines are of no value unless they accord with the Bible. Every preacher should expect his doctrines to be examined in this way, and to be rejected if they are not in accordance with the Word of God.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416927 Jan 20, 2013
CommanderRiker wrote:
Hmm. So if the Roman Catholic Church is the only one true church...then what are all these buildings at every street corner with crosses on them doing there, and what is their purpose?
They are community centers and they don't do much.

That's why I'm amazed that the true and superior ones aren't enjoying the fruits of their faith by moving south, where the majority of church buildings are true churches?
marge

Ames, IA

#416928 Jan 20, 2013
"And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul's message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth."
marge

Ames, IA

#416929 Jan 20, 2013
The apostles always affirmed that the doctrines which they maintained respecting the Messiah were in accordance with the Jewish scriptures. The Bereans made diligent and earnest inquiry in respect to this, and were willing to ascertain the truth.
marge

Ames, IA

#416930 Jan 20, 2013
The Scriptures should be examined daily. If we wish to arrive at the truth, they should be the object of constant study. That man has very little reason to expect that he will grow in knowledge and grace who does not peruse, with candor and with prayer, a portion of the Bible every day.

The constant searching of the Scriptures is the best way to keep the mind from error. He who does not do it daily may expect to "be carried about with every wind of doctrine," and to have no settled opinions.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#416931 Jan 20, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
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FACT: Catholics talk about all kinds of level;s of faith. And they slide back and forth in order to avoid truth and reality.
"Deposit of faith - nothing can change it" -- baloney. It changes so much you can't even tell us what the "infallible teachings" are!
FACT: Fatima, every Pope since 1917 makes the pilgrimage.
FACT: Called by Popes "the most important" in church history.
OK, when Catholic-in-denial stops spinning, I ASK AGAIN -- please tell us where we can find a list of the "infallible teachings" of this deposit of faith?
In short, it helps the spin and BS when things are made overly complicated and above all -- no one can provide specifics.
I don't think you can find a list of infallible teachings. I believe the when the Church holes council, its considered an infallible moment. But I'm not sure nor do I really care.
BTW, how come you care?
marge

Ames, IA

#416932 Jan 20, 2013
The Jews in Berea applied seriously to the study of the word preached unto them.

They not only heard Paul preach on the sabbath, but daily searched the Scriptures, and compared what they read with the facts related to them.

The doctrine of Christ does not fear inquiry; advocates for his cause desire no more than that people will fully and fairly examine whether things are so or not.

Those are truly noble, and likely to be more and more so, who make the Scriptures their rule, and consult them accordingly.

May all the hearers of the gospel become like those of Berea, receiving the word with readiness of mind, and searching the Scriptures daily, whether the things preached to them are so.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#416933 Jan 20, 2013
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LTM wrote:
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What is the Hail Mary that Catholics say so often?"
Answer: The “Hail Mary,” Ave Maria in Latin, is a Roman Catholic prayer to the Virgin Mary that consists of salutations and a plea for her intercession. Also, the term "Hail Mary pass" was used by the press to describe a pass by Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach in a 1975 divisional playoff game and has come to be synonymous in football with a long pass that has little chance of success. The text of the Hail Mary prayer incorporates two Bible passages:“Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee" (Luke 1:28) and “Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb" (Luke 1:42). The first passage is the angel Gabriel’s greeting to Mary when he came to inform her that she had been chosen to bear the Messiah. The second is her cousin Elizabeth’s greeting to Mary when Mary came to visit her cousin, who was also pregnant at the time with John the Baptist. The third part of the Hail Mary prayer is not from the Bible and is, in fact, in direct contradiction to Scriptural truth:“Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.”
This last part of the Hail Mary prayer has three unbiblical parts to it. First, Mary is not and never was “holy.” Mary was a human being who was born, as all humans are, with a sin nature and who recognized that she needed a Savior. In fact, the very passage used in the Hail Mary, known as Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55), contains the declaration “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,” a clear indication that she understood her need for a Savior from sin. The Bible never says that Mary was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favored (graced) by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who needed Jesus Christ as her Savior, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8).
The second unbiblical part of the Hail Mary is addressing Mary as the “Mother of God.” Mary was the human mother of the human Jesus Christ, who was indeed God incarnate. But she was not the mother of God, neither is she the ”queen of heaven,” another title given to her by the Catholic Church which has no basis in Scripture. God doesn’t have a mother, nor does He have a queen. He is an eternal, infinite Being, uncreated and unborn, self-sufficient and self-sustaining.
The third unbiblical statement in the Hail Mary is the plea for her to “pray for us sinners.” Here we see the unbiblical practice of praying to Mary to intercede with God for us. First, we do not need an intercessor with God. Christ is the only intercessor we need. Through Jesus and Him alone, we have direct access to the Father. Christ alone mediates and intercedes between God and man.“For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”(1 Timothy 2:5). Prayer to anyone other than God alone is anti-biblical. Praying to Mary or petitioning her to pray for us is against the Scriptures. Prayer is an act of worship. When we pray to God, we are admitting that we need His help. Directing our prayers to anyone other than God is robbing God of the glory that is His alone, something God hates and will not tolerate (Isaiah 42:8).
While Mary was certainly a godly young woman greatly blessed in that she was chosen to bear the Savior of the world, she was not in any way divine, nor was she sinless, nor is she to be worshipped, revered, venerated, or prayed to.
yougotquestions.com
Truth from the Word of God that cannot be refuted....but is denied by Catholics...

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#416934 Jan 20, 2013
919
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
If you want a learn about what was written, one must step outside the comfort of Christianity.
For a very good beginning point on textual criticism, you should read Bart Ehrman's book, "Misquoting Jesus", and then utilize that step in understanding the misconceptions of the Bible.
Good luck.
Being led by the Holy Spirit, I have no problem understanding the Word of God..He, God, said that Jesus Christ is His Son...
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416935 Jan 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I don't think you can find a list of infallible teachings. I believe the when the Church holes council, its considered an infallible moment. But I'm not sure nor do I really care.
BTW, how come you care?
Why do you NOT care?

You claim spiritual superiority because you possess perfect and infallible teachings.

DUH!!!!!!!!! So why don't you know what they are?

Every time anyone points out how "perfect teachings" have proven to be wrong, or have changed completely -- you and others claim they are not "official" teachings or whatever.

Stop being so goofy. If anyone else claimed to have "perfect teaching on morals," YOU would surely say "show me."

Ahhhh, get it yet?

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