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#416817 Jan 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
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The hypostatic union is the term used to describe how God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time. Jesus always had been God (John 8:58, 10:30), but at the incarnation Jesus became a human being (John 1:14). The addition of the human nature to the divine nature is Jesus, the God-man. This is the hypostatic union, Jesus Christ, one Person, fully God and fully man.
Jesus' two natures, human and divine, are inseparable. Jesus will forever be the God-man, fully God and fully human, two distinct natures in one Person. Jesus' humanity and divinity are not mixed, but are united without loss of separate identity. Jesus sometimes operated with the limitations of humanity (John 4:6, 19:28) and other times in the power of His deity (John 11:43; Matthew 14:18-21). In both, Jesus' actions were from His one Person. Jesus had two natures, but only one personality.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW
LTM

And the Blessed Virgin Mary gave birth to Jesus, not just the flesh, but also the God....whicch we know as the hypostatic union each. Thus the Blessed Mary is the mother of Jesus of the flesh, and mother of God, known as the hypostatic union of each.

You cannot seperate Jesus into two. You said it yourself.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#416818 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
Oh, No! Heckle doesn't know the difference between the Incarnation and the Immaculate Conception! LOL!!
They're batting a 1,000 today!
:)
lol.

http://www.google.com/search...

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#416819 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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They are lovely, aren't they? And so are their meanings. Icons are so rich with symbolism, every detail has a special significance, including the borders and backgrounds.
As the site points out, the Apostle St. Luke was an iconographer and some of these are attributed to him. So much for statues and other representations being against the commandments. And it certainly refutes the claim of the Madonna being a figure from mythology, lol!
ReginaM
Peace

:)
Pad

Rockford, IL

#416820 Jan 19, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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Pad good friend
You write, "Mary is not in anyway the Spouse of the Holy Spirit..."
In response, Luke 1:35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon you and the power of the Most High shall overshadow you. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of you shall be called the Son of God."
In a sense, when a person is born-again, accepting Jesus, it is the Holy Spirit that is the Spouse that overshadows each of us by faith. Likewise, Mary's fiat, is acceptance by faith which is far superior to our faith, as with her, Jesus was physically conceived. And the more each of us becomes like Jesus, the more one's faith becomes like Jesus' mother....
The Godhead is Three Persons. If not, then why not get baptized in the Name of God, instead of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?
Really the particular issue with us understanding the Godhead is defining the Holy Spirit as a Person. I think most accept the Son and Father as seperate. But all are united as One God.
We should not be baptized in the Name of God,because Jesus said that when we are baptized we are to be baptized in the NAME of the Father,Son and Holy Spirit.Which by the way could be some sort of error on our parts to baptized using all three,when what is the NAME of the Father,and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Nevertheless the Father,the Son and the Holy Spirit are of O N E Essence,not just in unity of mind or purpose,but ONE substance,one Divine ESSENCE which is G O D,HE,the great I AM.

Is ONE GOD divided into three separate Gods?

The same Holy Divine Essence of Omnipotence is in the THREE Persons.We cannot divide them ,as the same ESSENCE completely embodies all Three. Therefore they are O N E God,indivisiible,and not separated into threee distinct different GODS.

We also have to realize that God is ALL in all,He is vastly beyond our limited space as human beings,we are the Created. God manifests the I AM into three separate administrations the Father,the Son and the Holy Spirit,but they are O N E,and as human beings we cannot fathom that unique oneness,because who can KNOW the living God? Jesus is really the only Man who claimed that He came from the Father,and they are known of each other in a complete way,unimagineable to human logic.

How else could Jesus become a total true human being not related to the false heresy of gnosticism,unless HE was born to the Virgin M a r y?

God could have just placed Jesus on the planet fully formed in human flesh and blood,but than there would be the Satanic heresy of angelic beings mixing with human elements,that are arian beings which is contrived in the minds of people seduced by evil spirits.

We call it gnosticism,but the most insidious of these doctrines come from hell which is bent on destroying the Humanity of our Lord,and to destroy most of all the truth of the Incarnation,God in the Flesh.John the Apostle alludes to it in his epistle.

Mary is that only person,bless her heart,who gives our Lord His true identity as being HUMAN,yet at the same time fully WHO HE i s,the great I AM!

N o one can deny the Incarnation and be a true follower of the Messiah.It is a false Jesus they follow,and that is most unfortunate especially for the Jehovah Witnesses.Continued:
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#416821 Jan 19, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I and my three brothers were altar boys in our parish over a period of about 12 years. There were probably a hundred other boys over the years as well. There was never ONE SINGLE incident of abuse or anything thing that would be remotely contstrued as sexual in nature by the founding pastor or any of the many associate priests who came and went.
Dan, you more than anyone on this board has the right to be angry, but your charity really shines forth on this issue. All I can say is how sorry I am for what you endured and I'm glad you have found peace. Fortunately the Church has made HUGE strides in eliminating this scourge and getting rid of the "filth" as Pope Benedict called them, as is evident by the last number I saw, about 7 credible accustions in 2011, out of over 40,000 priests.
Anthony says......I and my three brothers were altar boys in our parish over a period of about 12 years. There were probably a hundred other boys over the years as well. There was never ONE SINGLE incident of abuse or anything thing that would be remotely contstrued as sexual in nature by the founding pastor or any of the many associate priests who came and went.

Michael says ........Your brothers might have been the lucky ones. As you know, all 6 dioceses in MINNESOTA have had more than their fair share of sexually abusive clergy over the years. But you didn't tell us that.

Check out the 6 dioceses of MINNESOTA including St Paul.

http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/Pri...

I rest my case......
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416822 Jan 19, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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If it isn't the OLE ROOSTER! clukking to Anthony, about someone else again!.... Anthony! Anthony! BWUK BWUK BWUK!! another atheist. BUK BUK BUK!! they are going to hell!! BWUK BWUK BWUK!!
UNBELIEVABLE!
I know you're trying to save face over your most recent blunder...(lol)....but having your owner let you out of your cage is dangerous. You could hurt yourself.
Get back in there now, that's a good boy....here's some bird seed....
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#416823 Jan 19, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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Anthony says...... The bishop wasn't covering up, he was simply following the prevailing treatment course for anyone who was accused of sexual deviancy in those days. Most of the bishops during that time were advised by the psychological profession to send him to treatment and once he received a "clean bill of health"
Michael says....WHAT A CROC! 20, 30 50 years ago, if a man raped a woman the POLICE WERE CALLED. Same as today, and no different than if a child was raped today or 50 years ago.
Lance Armstrong looks like a beginner compared to the lying, deceitful clergy who covered up to protect the church and not the victims.
Anthony you will go to any length to make up excuses, because YOU NEVER want any catholic priest ever charged with anything. Its obvious in your tone that you continue to defend the clergy at all costs including RAPE.
The charge of Rape 50 years ago was the same as rape today......
Call a PHYSCIATRIST!.........what a BS excuse.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself for defending their actions of "WE WILL CALL" a physchiatrist.
If 50 years ago you had a son and he claimed a neighbor sexually assualted him, I am sure you would call a PHYSCHIASTRIST.
UNBELIEVABLE!
No moron, 50 years ago women did NOT always call the police when they were raped.

Hey Jeckle, still haven't figured out that seal of confessional thingy yet have you?
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416824 Jan 19, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
LOL!

Perfect!

“The wicked are not smart”

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#416825 Jan 19, 2013
For the anti-Catholics here:
http://www.catholicmemes.com/quotes/things-je...

Indeed. Jesus never said: be your own "pope".
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#416826 Jan 19, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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No moron, 50 years ago women did NOT always call the police when they were raped.
Hey Jeckle, still haven't figured out that seal of confessional thingy yet have you?
The seal of confessional??

(LOL) Do you honestly believe any priest who molested a child told another priest his confession? Then went out and committed the same felony crime, and sin again and again?

Do you honestly believe when a 59 year old priest got caught for the first time molesting that it was his first time molesting?

You might like making excuses or covering up for them, but people today are FED UP with story after story after story.

Maybe you and your brothers would have never told on a priest if he had abused you or your brothers. I am sure thousands of incidents of other altar boys never told anyone.

There are many more skeletons in closet within the catholic clergy. They just never got caught.

Tip of the iceburg we always say!

How many times have you not come to a complete stop at a stop sign and never been caught? How many times have you gone over the speed limit without being caught?

Same with the abusive clergy.........many who never got caught.

I will always defend victims of crime, and never make up lame excuses for the ones who hurt them the most..........like you continue to do.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#416827 Jan 19, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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Anthony says......I and my three brothers were altar boys in our parish over a period of about 12 years. There were probably a hundred other boys over the years as well. There was never ONE SINGLE incident of abuse or anything thing that would be remotely contstrued as sexual in nature by the founding pastor or any of the many associate priests who came and went.
Michael says ........Your brothers might have been the lucky ones. As you know, all 6 dioceses in MINNESOTA have had more than their fair share of sexually abusive clergy over the years. But you didn't tell us that.
Check out the 6 dioceses of MINNESOTA including St Paul.
http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/Pri...
I rest my case......
And you probably don't know that the majority of cases didn't involve "rape" of any kind, in fact, putting a hand on a leg or making sexually suggestive comments are lumped in together with the real crimes of rape and sodomy.

Mikey, when are you gonna get a new act? This one has been played out...
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#416828 Jan 19, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
The seal of confessional??
(LOL) Do you honestly believe any priest who molested a child told another priest his confession? Then went out and committed the same felony crime, and sin again and again?
Do you honestly believe when a 59 year old priest got caught for the first time molesting that it was his first time molesting?
You might like making excuses or covering up for them, but people today are FED UP with story after story after story.
Maybe you and your brothers would have never told on a priest if he had abused you or your brothers. I am sure thousands of incidents of other altar boys never told anyone.
There are many more skeletons in closet within the catholic clergy. They just never got caught.
Tip of the iceburg we always say!
How many times have you not come to a complete stop at a stop sign and never been caught? How many times have you gone over the speed limit without being caught?
Same with the abusive clergy.........many who never got caught.
I will always defend victims of crime, and never make up lame excuses for the ones who hurt them the most..........like you continue to do.
The John Jay report says you're wrong Jeckle.

Obssession with child sex is not good Jeckle. Maybe you should check with your marriage counselor and see if she treats your other problem too.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#416829 Jan 19, 2013
Continued to RobertF. It is not that JESUS is not God when He is placed in the womb of Mary by the Holy Spirit,but it is that Jesus must become M a n.Mary's part physiologically speaking has to contribute totally to His humanity,that is the greatest mystery of our faith.

Jesus becoming man when in fact and truth He is the Son in the Godhead=Father/Son and Holy Spirit.

It is the sole purpose of God in placing His holy Son as a human sperm connecting with Mary's egg,the embryo is Jesus,and so goes the gestation of development in the womb.Jesus takes on humanity from His Mother Mary.Her egg with the seed of the Holy Spirit forms that human being.

Virgin Birth protects the embryo from the taint of sin,because sin is a product of the Male sperm or seed from Adam.Jesus has no earthly father who sired H i m.

But His mother totally human gives to Him humanity.It is a mystery of faith.We all as believers should be aware of that fact.It is not an easy thing to comprehend.

Mary was chosen from all the rest of human women to bear in her the Holy Child Jesus."Let it be done unto me"That fiat unto her person,she gave permission to release her physiology for the Creator's master design,and in her virginity a child was conceived,and we all know the results.

Mother of the Son of Man Jesus,Mary's total contribution to the Plan of God for the salvation of all the human race.

She is Blessed,and no one can deny it.She is not the Mother of any being but the Son of Man,Jesus,who obtains His total humanity from her.Joseph is called His father,also because He is not denied the protection and covering of a father.God wanted Joseph to be totally a caregiver to His Son,that also enjoins Mary's contribution of physiology with the human development of a son,who needs both a father and a mother.

There is nothing in Scripture that gives us the permission to place Mary in any other realm of glory than what God has already allowed.

1.Mary is the only woman who had a virgin birth.

2.Mary is the only woman who would fulfill the humanity of the Person of Jesus Christ,through her virginity,and fiat.

3. Mary called G o d(the Father-Son and Holy Spirit) her Savior.

4. Mary is blessed because she gave birth and contributed physiologically to the Incarnate Jesus,Messiah and Lord.

5. Mary in no way form or otherwise is anything but a Mortal being born of human parents.She is not an angel,nor is she a celestial being,and most of all she is a Created being,which even moreso gives mystery to the Incarnation.
God took a woman created,and placed His only begotten Son in her womb,where by her He took on human flesh and blood,and He became Man.

I do not see anything in the Scriptures or in the life of Mary,her virginity or what she was called to do by God as any reason to call her the Mother of God,and later declare her as the Spouse of the Holy Spirit.

Sorry Robert but yes we may be a spouse as to being connected with Christ the Son,who gave Himself for the church,and we are as a bride of Christ,but the Holy Spirit is not our spouse,we are not married or betrothed to Him,but to Christ the GOD-Man.There is a difference to saying Mary is Spouse to either the Father,the Son or the Holy Spirit.naturally she cannot be spouse of her son,nor can she be spouse of the Father or Holy Spirit,either.

The Catholics consider a relationship of husband and wife when calling Mary the Spouse of the Holy Spirit.YES,Catholics on EWTN have talked about it,especially from that Saint from France who termed Mary as such.it is error,simple as that.

Mary is not in some special marriage bond with the Holy Spirit.Excessive theology is as destructive as heresy.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#416830 Jan 19, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Dan
I think the problem is that priests have had to much power thrust upon them, and their duties have had to take on epic proportions. This has sort of changed with the re-establishment of deacons.
A priest is called to be a servant. But he has duties such as administrative, being a counselor, and organizer, etc., that he cannot perform his primary duties. He is spread to thin.... In an idealic world, I think priests should be older, experienced with people, with a known backround.(Fortunately, my church has a priest who is like this. This is his "second" calling late in life.)
Agreed;it seems that your church is making good strides to curb the very strong figure of leadership that is in the priesthood.He is just a man,and with like passions.In the past the church may have failed in continuing to remind its priests that they are biological beings with passions,who daily fight the passions of the flesh.Those same men have to guide whole congregations,that also is a factor being celibate,never enjoying the company of a woman,or children also.

Brief encounters with congregants do not suffice for the loneliness some priests must experience espeically in large parishes.Although they have many duties,they also have times alone,and even the most married of men are tempted with sexual thoughts and desires for just pleasure.Married couples battle with sexuality,look at the Pornography amongst married men,it is ridiculous.

We have to be on the alert even in our age as it creeps upon us.Often men who are in their sixties wrestle with sexual desires,and are prone to giving into some opportunity to commit adultery or some form of fornication.

All men struggle with this not just Christians.We read daily about adulteries,and know of them amongst people we know,and unfortunately we are aware of everyother type of infraction with sex.We human beings are tempted daily with many things that ultimately harm us!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#416831 Jan 19, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I and my three brothers were altar boys in our parish over a period of about 12 years. There were probably a hundred other boys over the years as well. There was never ONE SINGLE incident of abuse or anything thing that would be remotely contstrued as sexual in nature by the founding pastor or any of the many associate priests who came and went.
Dan, you more than anyone on this board has the right to be angry, but your charity really shines forth on this issue. All I can say is how sorry I am for what you endured and I'm glad you have found peace. Fortunately the Church has made HUGE strides in eliminating this scourge and getting rid of the "filth" as Pope Benedict called them, as is evident by the last number I saw, about 7 credible accustions in 2011, out of over 40,000 priests.
And Anthony that is what we need as responsible humans,to see that when justice is needed to fulfill it. The Pope publicly calling those priests "Filth" makes a declaration to the whole world,that he intends to stop the plague of abuse in its tracks.I can't see that he should not be taken at his word,along with every Cardinal and bishop who follows through on ensuring that their parishes will not succumb to the predators,and hide them,but to expose what is wrong.

Nevertheless, on the other hand people outside of the Church will continue to use it as a ploy to agitate and irritate all,who know full well that things of this nature are very hard to deal with.Innocent priests are under scrutiny.Young priests are very courageous,as far as I am concerned,knowing that any woman or even a child can accuse them of inpropriety,because of some fantasy,or because tey are angry with them.It is a hard road for any clergyman and woman these days.God help them all!

Woe to the offender,especially now that all has been virtually exposed!
Clay

Chicago, IL

#416832 Jan 19, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO at the rhetorical spin.
"..... so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church."
"Private" Revelations...
FACT: Fatima, every Pope since 1917 makes the pilgrimage.
FACT: Called by Popes "the most important" in church history.
But it does NOT really "belong, however, to the deposit of faith."
What???
OK, when Catholic-in-denial stops spinning -- please tell us where we can find a list of the "infallible teachings" of this deposit of faith?
In short, it helps the spin and BS when things are made overly complicated and above all -- no one can provide specifics.
OK, now "deposit of faith's" infallible teachings. Where?
Fatima had nothing to do with the deposit of faith.
In fact, the deposit of faith is so sacred and built on rock, that nothing can change it. Not even a 'secret' hand delivered to our Pope from a person who said its from the Virgin Mary can change it.
EVEN if there was a supernatural event attached to the claim, as in the case of the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima.
This is why the Catholic Church is unique. Nothing can undo what the Apostles taught.

pick any 42,000 Protestant sect and you will find out every single one has reversed what was originally taught. Whether its sola scripture or sola fide or worse... Jesus is not God!

You can't provide any info (without lying) to show otherwise.

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#416833 Jan 19, 2013
Pad wrote:
Continued to RobertF. It is not that JESUS is not God when He is placed in the womb of Mary by the Holy Spirit,but it is that Jesus must become M a n.Mary's part physiologically speaking has to contribute totally to His humanity,that is the greatest mystery of our faith.
Jesus becoming man when in fact and truth He is the Son in the Godhead=Father/Son and Holy Spirit.
It is the sole purpose of God in placing His holy Son as a human sperm connecting with Mary's egg,the embryo is Jesus,and so goes the gestation of development in the womb.Jesus takes on humanity from His Mother Mary.Her egg with the seed of the Holy Spirit forms that human being.
Virgin Birth protects the embryo from the taint of sin,because sin is a product of the Male sperm or seed from Adam.Jesus has no earthly father who sired H i m.
But His mother totally human gives to Him humanity.It is a mystery of faith.We all as believers should be aware of that fact.It is not an easy thing to comprehend.
Mary was chosen from all the rest of human women to bear in her the Holy Child Jesus."Let it be done unto me"That fiat unto her person,she gave permission to release her physiology for the Creator's master design,and in her virginity a child was conceived,and we all know the results.
Mother of the Son of Man Jesus,Mary's total contribution to the Plan of God for the salvation of all the human race.
She is Blessed,and no one can deny it.She is not the Mother of any being but the Son of Man,Jesus,who obtains His total humanity from her.Joseph is called His father,also because He is not denied the protection and covering of a father.God wanted Joseph to be totally a caregiver to His Son,that also enjoins Mary's contribution of physiology with the human development of a son,who needs both a father and a mother.
There is nothing in Scripture that gives us the permission to place Mary in any other realm of glory than what God has already allowed.
1.Mary is the only woman who had a virgin birth.
2.Mary is the only woman who would fulfill the humanity of the Person of Jesus Christ,through her virginity,and fiat.
3. Mary called G o d(the Father-Son and Holy Spirit) her Savior.
4. Mary is blessed because she gave birth and contributed physiologically to the Incarnate Jesus,Messiah and Lord.
5. Mary in no way form or otherwise is anything but a Mortal being born of human parents.She is not an angel,nor is she a celestial being,and most of all she is a Created being,which even moreso gives mystery to the Incarnation.
God took a woman created,and placed His only begotten Son in her womb,where by her He took on human flesh and blood,and He became Man.
I do not see anything in the Scriptures or in the life of Mary,her virginity or what she was called to do by God as any reason to call her the Mother of God,and later declare her as the Spouse of the Holy Spirit.
Sorry Robert but yes we may be a spouse as to being connected with Christ the Son,who gave Himself for the church,and we are as a bride of Christ,but the Holy Spirit is not our spouse,we are not married or betrothed to Him,but to Christ the GOD-Man.There is a difference to saying Mary is Spouse to either the Father,the Son or the Holy Spirit.naturally she cannot be spouse of her son,nor can she be spouse of the Father or Holy Spirit,either.
The Catholics consider a relationship of husband and wife when calling Mary the Spouse of the Holy Spirit.YES,Catholics on EWTN have talked about it,especially from that Saint from France who termed Mary as such.it is error,simple as that.
Mary is not in some special marriage bond with the Holy Spirit.Excessive theology is as destructive as heresy.
Dan

I agree with all of your first post.
I have some points on this post.

Concerning the sperm/egg issue. We don't know. It is a mystery. But I think in general(at least for me) the RCC views that the overshadowing was not fertilization, but that the egg was 100% of Mary, and there was no sperm.
cont....

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#416835 Jan 19, 2013
Pad

cont...

Because God is Life. He gave Life to the egg within Mary....Now I cannot prove this. But it is more a spiritual intuition....

EWTN....You are probably thinking about St. Louis de Montfort. He has a very developed Mariology, and some of the words when translated to English, do go over the edge.(What is meant is not correctly understood and then translated.) But I read his work, and find nothing wrong with it.

But yes, glad you see the Bride and Bridgroom analogy. That is God and the Church, and Jesus Christ to us on an individual. Likewise it can be said of Israel to God. So why not Mary, who had God's Son?

What ends up happening is that Mary becomes the Mother of Jesus, and also Mary becomes a sister to Jesus(as she is in need of salvation, as we do.) So Mary becomes mother and sister to us by extension that Jesus is brother....

Mariology is extensive, as it is still pondered. It is a mystery. So there is a lot to write about her, and her relationship with the Trinity. The more we understand that relationship, the more we understand the relationship of each of us to God.

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#416836 Jan 19, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed;it seems that your church is making good strides to curb the very strong figure of leadership that is in the priesthood.He is just a man,and with like passions.In the past the church may have failed in continuing to remind its priests that they are biological beings with passions,who daily fight the passions of the flesh.Those same men have to guide whole congregations,that also is a factor being celibate,never enjoying the company of a woman,or children also.
Brief encounters with congregants do not suffice for the loneliness some priests must experience espeically in large parishes.Although they have many duties,they also have times alone,and even the most married of men are tempted with sexual thoughts and desires for just pleasure.Married couples battle with sexuality,look at the Pornography amongst married men,it is ridiculous.
We have to be on the alert even in our age as it creeps upon us.Often men who are in their sixties wrestle with sexual desires,and are prone to giving into some opportunity to commit adultery or some form of fornication.
All men struggle with this not just Christians.We read daily about adulteries,and know of them amongst people we know,and unfortunately we are aware of everyother type of infraction with sex.We human beings are tempted daily with many things that ultimately harm us!
Dan

Knowing that all men are tempted is an admission of our nature.

It is in knowing what is sin, we can avoid sin....It takes discipline.

I have found particularly helpful the Desert Father's writings in the early Church. They really define sin and temptation well, and ways to combat it, on physical, mental, and spiritual levels.

One of the best ways is to live the Beatitudes. Especially the first one. Blessed are the poor of spirit...., actually it come to giving up the pleasuresof the flesh, and blessed are those who mourn....Jesus gave us the directions and destination, we just need to follow them.
Amish

El Dorado Springs, MO

#416837 Jan 19, 2013
Clay wrote:
This is why the Catholic Church is unique. Nothing can undo what the Apostles taught.

pick any 42,000 Protestant sect and you will find out every single one has reversed what was originally taught. Whether its sola scripture or sola fide or worse... Jesus is not God!
You can't provide any info (without lying) to show otherwise.

The few hundred Protestant denominations and individual Christians around the world all have many things in common - Jesus, the Bible, all Christian. Unlike Rome's universal pagan voodoo sun cult that does not follow the Bible - Apostles. This is why Rome has added books!

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