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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603771 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416759 Jan 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
first of all Almighty God does not have a Mother It would mean He was created.
second of all Regina, I believe with all my heart that you love the Lord, I really do.
I am just trying to show you from History and From a bibical view point that the catholic church is not the true church of God.
(NOR IS THE PROTESTANT).
Every religion on this earth has a different doctrine.
God is unchangeable. Yesterday, today, and tomorrow, He is the same to all generations.
The O.T. church started with Abraham, God made a covenant with Him. The N.T. Church Was a Blood Covenant we are under the blood of Jesus .
If I choose a religious doctrine from the many denomination, I have to ask myself am I going against the teachings of Jesus.
I have to go by what the Bible says. Regina and get under some solid bible Holy Spirit teachers.
Who preach the teachings of Jesus Christ. not what Pastor Bob, or Father So and So says.
The Holy Spirit flows like a river Regina, when you are sitting under the anointing of a Spirit Filled Preacher you know the difference , between the real thing and a fake .
Please click on the link provided above and view the lovely Holy Icons on this wonderful *Eastern Orthodox* site.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416760 Jan 19, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
Here is a picture of how Catholic children are taught about Mary.
http://onlinecatholicstore.com/our-lady-of-fa...
Here are some of the actual words behind that picture, uttered by Mary in 1917, during World War 1 foretelling World War 2:
#1.... Where bad people go -- "Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames..."
#2... "To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI."
Would Jesus really sent this Mary......
http://onlinecatholicstore.com/our-lady-of-fa...
.. to give that message to the world?
What kind of sicko would put those words in Mary's mouth and why?
The RCC, War, and Politics
BUSTED
6 negative judges so soon! Thank you.

The link is awesome when placed in context with the absurd words that the liars at the Vatican put into poor Mary's mouth.

Attention Catholics-in-Denial..........

Would YOU send YOUR MOTHER to say such things?

Don't worry. Neither did God.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#416761 Jan 19, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask the many thousands of protestant pastors who are guilty of it.
Aside from LTM's question,what is your statement suppose to mean?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#416762 Jan 19, 2013
Saturday, January 19, 2013
This Morning's Meditation
C. H. Spurgeon

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"I sought him, but I found him not."—Song of Solomon 3:1.
TELL me where you lost the company of Christ, and I will tell you the most likely place to find Him. Have you lost Christ in the closet by restraining prayer? Then it is there you must seek and find Him. Did you lose Christ by sin? You will find Christ in no other way but by the giving up of the sin, and seeking by the Holy Spirit to mortify the member in which the lust doth dwell. Did you lose Christ by neglecting the Scriptures? You must find Christ in the Scriptures. It is a true proverb, "Look for a thing where you dropped it, it is there." So look for Christ where you lost Him, for He has not gone away. But it is hard work to go back for Christ. Bunyan tells us, the pilgrim found the piece of the road back to the Arbour of Ease, where he lost his roll, the hardest he had ever travelled. Twenty miles onward is easier than to go one mile back for the lost evidence.
Take care, then, when you find your Master, to cling close to Him. But how is it you have lost Him? One would have thought you would never have parted with such a precious friend, whose presence is so sweet, whose words are so comforting, and whose company is so dear to you! How is it that you did not watch Him every moment for fear of losing sight of Him? Yet, since you have let Him go, what a mercy that you are seeking Him, even though you mournfully groan, "O that I knew where I might find Him!" Go on seeking, for it is dangerous to be without thy Lord. Without Christ you are like a sheep without its shepherd; like a tree without water at its roots; like a sere leaf in the tempest—not bound to the tree of life. With thine whole heart seek Him, and He will be found of thee: only give thyself thoroughly up to the search, and verily, thou shalt yet discover Him to thy joy and gladness.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#416763 Jan 19, 2013
Vision and Darkness
January 19, 2013
When the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and behold, horror and great darkness fell upon him —Genesis 15:12

Whenever God gives a vision to a Christian, it is as if He puts him in “the shadow of His hand”(Isaiah 49:2). The saint’s duty is to be still and listen. There is a “darkness” that comes from too much light-that is the time to listen. The story of Abram and Hagar in Genesis 16 is an excellent example of listening to so-called good advice during a time of darkness, rather than waiting for God to send the light. When God gives you a vision and darkness follows, wait. God will bring the vision He has given you to reality in your life if you will wait on His timing. Never try to help God fulfill His word. Abram went through thirteen years of silence, but in those years all of his self-sufficiency was destroyed. He grew past the point of relying on his own common sense. Those years of silence were a time of discipline, not a period of God’s displeasure. There is never any need to pretend that your life is filled with joy and confidence; just wait upon God and be grounded in Him (see Isaiah 50:10-11).

Do I trust at all in the flesh? Or have I learned to go beyond all confidence in myself and other people of God? Do I trust in books and prayers or other joys in my life? Or have I placed my confidence in God Himself, not in His blessings?“I am Almighty God ...”— El-Shaddai, the All-Powerful God (Genesis 17:1). The reason we are all being disciplined is that we will know God is real. As soon as God becomes real to us, people pale by comparison, becoming shadows of reality. Nothing that other saints do or say can ever upset the one who is built on God.

Bible in One Year: Genesis 46-48; Matthew 13:1-30
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416765 Jan 19, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Mary gave birth to the Man,Son of Man,Jesus. She cannot give birth to God.The Human being with flesh and blood,is what Mary gave birth to.Her humanity was poured into His Person,and He became a living,breathing baby boy,later to become a Man with maturity.He was to be taught the ways of human life from both Mary and Joseph,all included to respectfully add to His stature as a Man.
Being God already from eternity which has no beginning with God,it is impossible for Mary to give birth to God,she is responsible and BLESSED as the woman who gave birth to the total humanity of J e s u s the Man,called in Scripture the Son of Man.That alone is the magnitude of truth that enfolds Mary as the Mother of Jesus,in VIRGIN Birth,yet clothing Him in human flesh and blood.I think that is enough for one maiden to bear.
The fact that Jesus already IS GOD gives no place for what HE obtained in Human flesh and blood from Mary.That is the glory of God Regina,that Jesus inherited flesh and blood from Mary,His humanity is due to her alone,no man had a part in it.God allowed Mary the unique role of bringing about the Incarnation through her very body,that is blessed.She has no credit in the fact that Jesus is indeed G O D with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Oh, dear, not that old heresy again!

Dan, my darling, if you believe that Jesus was not truly God and truly man, including when He was in the womb, then you would be espousing a non-Christian belief. I'm trying to word this nicely, but the truth is you wouldn't be considered a Christian. Please read about the Nestorian heresy.

"After Nicaea a third Christological heresy arose, called Nestorianism (428 A.D.), which proposed two persons in Christ, rather than two natures in one person. Mary would then be the mother of the human person of Christ only, and therefore not the mother of God. Nestorianism was condemned by the third ecumenical council, held in Ephesus (431 A.D.). In substance, the council infallibly declared that Jesus was "according to his divinity, born of the Father before all ages, and in these last days, according to his humanity, born of the Virgin Mary for us and for our salvation ... A union was made of the two natures ... In accord with this understanding of the unconfused union we confess that the Holy Virgin is the Mother of God (<Theotokos>, God-Bearer), through God the Word's being incarnate and becoming man, and, from this conception, His joining to Himself the temple assumed from her." The foregoing statement is taken from a letter of St. Cyril, bishop of Alexandria (444 A.D.), who presided over the Council of Ephesus."
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/fr90203.h...
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#416764 Jan 19, 2013
Wisdom from Oswald Chambers
The emphasis to-day is placed on the furtherance of an organization; the note is,“We must keep this thing going.” If we are in God’s order the thing will go; if we are not in His order, it won’t.
DWWashburn

Honolulu, HI

#416766 Jan 19, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>What pit are you crawling out of?
Sorry, I am just tried of hearing people defending pedophiles. If a church and it members do not come clean, what chance does the rest of the world have?

I believe that the Boy Scouts are the only other major organization who has been caught covering up for pedophiles.

Penn State did, when caught, they came clean and they are paying the price.

The RCC and its members are trying to say that, since everyone else does it, we must not be bad.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416767 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Good doggie....stay on this new fantasy course.....because you got caught not knowing what the hell you're talking about!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH!!!!!
DUH!! You and others always "catch me" but no one explains how?

If her "status" had nothing to do with the status of the Holy Ghost, then one word: conception.

No matter, Catholic-in-denial avoids every main point anyhow.

Mary is barely mentioned in the Gospels. She is omitted entirely from the first Nicene Creed.
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416769 Jan 19, 2013
I suppose it's too much to ask that some people get a clue.

67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ's definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.

Christian faith cannot accept "revelations" that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such "revelations".
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a1.htm#II...

Now no more feeding the monkey after this. He's starting to bray thereby showing his true nature.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#416768 Jan 19, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
<quoted text>
If you hate the USA so much and love Catholic America so much, I have good news for you.
There are millions of folks in the Catholic south who would love to trade places with you.
There is nothing standing in your way! Walk your talk.
Ummmm? I thought not. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
We're not talking about me, we're talking about you saying Jesus is really impressed with a country founded by protestants that slaughters millions of babies in the womb every year. I guess that's a laughing matter to you. Scumbag.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#416770 Jan 19, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW Anthony....you have some anger issues.
Laughing them off is not going to help.
Trust me, a priest cannot help you.
Your wrong actually,if the priest is a man of God,devoted to the Lord Jesus Christ,and walking in the Spirit,he can be of great aid to any human being who seeks spiritual help from him.

As for my opinion NASL,it is far beyond my personal opinion that Jesus Died and gave Himself a ransom for many,you included.LONG before I was ever thought of the Church or body of Christ has been making disciples of all nations. I hardly think NASL that it is my opinion,but it is a cloud of witnesses which has lasted for centuries.

Millions of human beings have embraced the teachings of Christ,and their lives have been changed,sorry if you have decided that HE is not for you.

Or that some teachings you may read from other sources,which may give you some view about Jesus that basically is not Orthodox, you claim no doubt you believe in Him,yet you argue with us about oru faith in Him.

You have yet to explain this Jesus you believe in. You make statements all the time about how we do not understand what it is all about,as though you have some secret insight as to the true teachings of Christ? What are they?

List them,give to us a standard of truth you claim as to the REAL JEsus of your understanding.Who is this New Age Jesus you along with spiritualists believe in? There has to be some creed of faith on your part,you can list? 1-10 for starters. Even 5 of the most clear statements of your faith,spell it out. Give us something to ponder.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416771 Jan 19, 2013
DWWashburn wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, I am just tried of hearing people defending pedophiles. If a church and it members do not come clean, what chance does the rest of the world have?
I believe that the Boy Scouts are the only other major organization who has been caught covering up for pedophiles.
Penn State did, when caught, they came clean and they are paying the price.
The RCC and its members are trying to say that, since everyone else does it, we must not be bad.
Especially true when they avoid accountability under the title of spiritual superiority!

The RCC attracts the little children with this:

http://onlinecatholicstore.com/our-lady-of-fa...

The RCC then uses diplomatic immunity against them after some (orphans, deaf children, etc.) are sexually abused.

Yes, 95% of the world shares your disgust.
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#416772 Jan 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
first of all Almighty God does not have a Mother It would mean He was created.
second of all Regina, I believe with all my heart that you love the Lord, I really do.
I am just trying to show you from History and From a bibical view point that the catholic church is not the true church of God.
(NOR IS THE PROTESTANT).
Every religion on this earth has a different doctrine.
God is unchangeable. Yesterday, today, and tomorrow, He is the same to all generations.
The O.T. church started with Abraham, God made a covenant with Him. The N.T. Church Was a Blood Covenant we are under the blood of Jesus .
If I choose a religious doctrine from the many denomination, I have to ask myself am I going against the teachings of Jesus.
I have to go by what the Bible says. Regina and get under some solid bible Holy Spirit teachers.
Who preach the teachings of Jesus Christ. not what Pastor Bob, or Father So and So says.
The Holy Spirit flows like a river Regina, when you are sitting under the anointing of a Spirit Filled Preacher you know the difference , between the real thing and a fake .
ReginaM needs to note what Christ said:

Matthew 12

Jesus' Mother and Brothers Seek Him

46While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood outside, desiring to speak with him.

47Then one said unto him, Behold, your mother and your brothers stand outside, desiring to speak with you.

48But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brothers?

49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brothers!

50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#416773 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
III. CHRIST JESUS -- "MEDIATOR AND FULLNESS OF ALL REVELATION"25
God has said everything in his Word
65 "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son."26 Christ, the Son of God made man, is the Father's one, perfect and unsurpassable Word. In him he has said everything; there will be no other word than this one. St. John of the Cross, among others, commented strikingly on Hebrews 1:1-2:
In giving us his Son, his only Word (for he possesses no other), he spoke everything to us at once in this sole Word - and he has no more to say... because what he spoke before to the prophets in parts, he has now spoken all at once by giving us the All Who is His Son. Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behavior but also of offending him, by not fixing his eyes entirely upon Christ and by living with the desire for some other novelty.27
There will be no further Revelation
66 "The Christian economy, therefore, since it is the new and definitive Covenant, will never pass away; and no new public revelation is to be expected before the glorious manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ."28 Yet even if Revelation is already complete, it has not been made completely explicit; it remains for Christian faith gradually to grasp its full significance over the course of the centuries.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a1.htm#II...
DID YOU READ THIS BEFORE YOU POSTED IT REGINA.
Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behavior but also of offending him, by not fixing his eyes entirely upon Christ

WOW AND YOU CATHOLIC STILL BELIEVE IN PEOPLE SEEING VISIONS OF MARY.
HMMMM

{In giving us his Son, his only Word (for he possesses no other),
GODS ONLY WORD,(JESUS) NOT JESUS AND MARY

The spoke everything to us at once in this sole Word - and he has no more to say... because what he spoke before to the prophets in parts, he has now spoken all at once by giving us the All Who is His Son.

ALL WHO IS IN HIS SON: NOT HIS SON AND MARY

Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behavior but also of offending him, by not fixing his eyes entirely upon Christ .

I COULD CONTINUE REGINA; BUT I THINK YOU GET MY POINT.

WHY DO YOU POINT TO MARY AS A ""MEDIATOR" WHEN THIS PIECE POINTS TO JESUS AS CHRIST JESUS -- "MEDIATOR AND FULLNESS OF ALL REVELATION".
ITS IS A COMPLETE CONTRADICTION. HMMMM JUST ASKING

Since: Nov 08

usa

#416774 Jan 19, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>the statement that you made was about me being a bully on this forum because karen and I were talking about eating bean soup and it dribbling on my chin, and I asked her if she had the same problem, so that was none of your business with you acting smart about it.
as far as you being a heathen, look up what the word means.never mind, I did it 4 U.
3. Informal
a. One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened.
in your case, "irreligious".
call me what you like,you seem to enjoy it,not uncommon among certain religious group,it means nothing to me,your suppose a christaian? yet you don't talk like one,more anti-christian if you ask me,you call me a heathern yet your the one who speaks with an evil tounge,you don't see me respond in a nasty way like you do,i give honest friendly type responses,if fine by me if you disagree with what i post,but i have a right to post it,this not like the old days that you had to worry about being killed by the church for speaking out against it,just like other former world leaders did,hitler,stalin,musolini,nap oleon,all people seen as the anti-christ,interesting how the church acted in the same manner as these people did.now instead of using torturing devices,the church uses hurtful and threatening words to keep people in line.why? the true church of christ would not need to do these things.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#416775 Jan 19, 2013
gotta go be back later dog needs food.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416776 Jan 19, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
We're not talking about me, we're talking about you saying Jesus is really impressed with a country founded by protestants that slaughters millions of babies in the womb every year. I guess that's a laughing matter to you. Scumbag.
Dear Catholic-in-denial...

#1.. You are the one claiming moral superiority and Jesus' favor, not me.

#2... If the country founded by Protestants and deists is so terrible as you say -- nothing is keeping you from walking your BS talk and going to a society guided by Catholic ideals.

Yet somehow, just like this Catholic-in-denial -- THEY NEVER DO.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416777 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
I suppose it's too much to ask that some people get a clue.
67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ's definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.
Christian faith cannot accept "revelations" that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such "revelations".
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a1.htm#II...
Now no more feeding the monkey after this. He's starting to bray thereby showing his true nature.
LMAO at the rhetorical spin.

"..... so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church."

"Private" Revelations...

FACT: Fatima, every Pope since 1917 makes the pilgrimage.

FACT: Called by Popes "the most important" in church history.

But it does NOT really "belong, however, to the deposit of faith."

What???

OK, when Catholic-in-denial stops spinning -- please tell us where we can find a list of the "infallible teachings" of this deposit of faith?

In short, it helps the spin and BS when things are made overly complicated and above all -- no one can provide specifics.

OK, now "deposit of faith's" infallible teachings. Where?
DWWashburn

Honolulu, HI

#416778 Jan 19, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Especially true when they avoid accountability under the title of spiritual superiority!
The RCC attracts the little children with this:
http://onlinecatholicstore.com/our-lady-of-fa...
The RCC then uses diplomatic immunity against them after some (orphans, deaf children, etc.) are sexually abused.
Yes, 95% of the world shares your disgust.
I cannot believe that they try to hid behind what the rest of the world does!

First, they claim that the rest of the world is evil.

Then the claim that they are no different from the rest of the world.

Then they have the balls to claim that they are bound for Heaven, because they are doing God's will!

Which is it?

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