Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416735 Jan 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
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why don't you read the link Clay,
This is who the catholic church has representing Mary the Mother of Jesus.
Song of the Angels by Bouguereau

Today, while much of the world marks the new beginning of the calendar year, the Church commemorates the great solemnity of the Mother of God.

What does this mean?

That the Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mother of God means that the child— conceived in her womb by the power of the Holy Spirit, carried in her body for nine months, and born into this world— is God. As such, this celebration highlights the pivotal truth of the Church's Faith- that God has, in Jesus Christ, accepted a human nature, chosen to be born into this world as we have all been born into this world, and has lived a real, human life.

In doing so, God has accepted the full implication of what is means to be human, including the experiences of suffering and death.

"Why" God did this is what the Scriptures are all about- from start to finish, from Genesis to Revelation. In fact, the Bible is not just some kind of spiritual "self help" book or just a collection of ancient literature- the Bible is the story of why God accepts a human nature in Christ.
http://www.wordonfire.org/WoF-Blog/WoF-Blog/J...
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#416736 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Song of the Angels by Bouguereau
Today, while much of the world marks the new beginning of the calendar year, the Church commemorates the great solemnity of the Mother of God.
What does this mean?
That the Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mother of God means that the child— conceived in her womb by the power of the Holy Spirit, carried in her body for nine months, and born into this world— is God. As such, this celebration highlights the pivotal truth of the Church's Faith- that God has, in Jesus Christ, accepted a human nature, chosen to be born into this world as we have all been born into this world, and has lived a real, human life.
In doing so, God has accepted the full implication of what is means to be human, including the experiences of suffering and death.
"Why" God did this is what the Scriptures are all about- from start to finish, from Genesis to Revelation. In fact, the Bible is not just some kind of spiritual "self help" book or just a collection of ancient literature- the Bible is the story of why God accepts a human nature in Christ.
http://www.wordonfire.org/WoF-Blog/WoF-Blog/J...
Poor Mary was barely mentioned in the Gospels. She was completely omitted from the very first Nicene Creed ordered up by Constantine.

Glad you are making up for lost time.

Ironic isn't it -- that Mary's status would be the beginning of the great East-West Schism (Filioque controversy, late 500's)

Why couldn't the Gospel writers made it clear in the first place? Many Catholics killed each other during the heydays of the Schisms.

BUSTED
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416737 Jan 19, 2013
The RCC stood against the Bill of Rights then.
Who changed?
BUSTED
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416738 Jan 19, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
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Poor Mary was barely mentioned in the Gospels. She was completely omitted from the very first Nicene Creed ordered up by Constantine.
Glad you are making up for lost time.
Ironic isn't it -- that Mary's status would be the beginning of the great East-West Schism (Filioque controversy, late 500's)
Why couldn't the Gospel writers made it clear in the first place? Many Catholics killed each other during the heydays of the Schisms.
BUSTED
Filioque about the Blessed Virgin Mary????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(See Eastern Orthodox Icons of the Theotokos linked above.)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416739 Jan 19, 2013
Sermon 467 : Joy Before the Ark of God : Fourth Sunday of Advent

The image of John the Baptist leaping in joy in the womb of his mother at the sound of the greeting of the Blessed Virgin Mary hearkens back to the Old Testament image of David, leaping and dancing before the Ark of the Covenant. The New Testament is properly understood when one references patterns or events that are described in the Old Testament.
http://www.wordonfire.org/WOF-Radio/Sermons/2...
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416740 Jan 19, 2013
THE THEOTOKOS

by Archbishop Dmitri of Dallas and the South

The piety of the Church gives a rather prominent place to the one whom we call the Theotokos, she who gave birth to God, the ever-virgin Mary. On August 15th, we celebrate the major feast day known as the Dormition or Falling-asleep of the Mother of God. Three weeks from that date, on September 8th, we celebrate her birth. There are, of course, other feasts in her honor, and no service of the Church fails to make reference to her. Prayers are addressed to her and hymns to her glorification are sung. In them we call her "more honorable than the cherubim and without compare more glorious than the Seraphim …"

It is difficult to understand a Christian piety that does not include the most Holy Theotokos.
http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/arti...
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#416741 Jan 19, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
<quoted text>
Turning to and praying to Mary IS getting people away from Christ!
Not so!! Praying to her is "just the opposite!! It is prayer that is "manifested" in the context of "intercessory prayer" which leads us to a more "full, complete and abundant (personal) relationship with Jesus Christ Himself!!
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416742 Jan 19, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
The RCC stood against the Bill of Rights then.
Who changed?
BUSTED
LOL...That's right....change course....because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. BUSTED!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA!!!!!!!
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#416743 Jan 19, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
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If your religion requires the use of diplomatic immunity to obstruct justice for sexually abused orphans, you might want to think about getting out of it.
Been there and done the bible only Protestant (merry-go-round circus" for over over 35 years!....It's called Protestant "confusion, chaos, and distortion of Sacred Scripture, which is all "laced with" sola scriptura heresy, in denial of TRUE Church History and Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.....YOU CAN HAVE IT--all 42,000+ contradicting and inconsistent (hodge-podge) of Protestant denominations that "do nothing" but their pass personal judgement and condemnation upon any and all Christians, especially Catholics!!!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#416744 Jan 19, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Pad-
Here's a scenario I'll write using logic employed by many protestants on this board. I'm in quotation marks here.
"Pad's church sacrifices poodles and prays to the entrails".
You might ask where I'd heard such a thing.
"I read it on a website from John Blogger"
You-Is John Blogger a member of my church?
"No".
Where did he tell you he heard that?
"Another non-member of your church on the radio"
Here's what my church believes-see (cites source actaully FROM your church)? It doesn't say that. We don't do that.
"Oh-I never thought to actually look at the source".
Well, I better do a better job of telling people I don't do what I don't do already.
----------
See what I mean?
I understand your point,but the truth is,whole populations that are Roman Catholic in this world venerate openly the blessed Mother,having a statue of her in front of them,kneeling before it,singing litanies and canticles of praise to her near divine office,glorifying her. Statues of Mary are often placed on pedestals and carried around,many faithful trying to touch the pedestal to gain some virtue if possible.

Catholics here in the US especially try to claim that their prayers and devotion to Mary is within that safe realm of non[-Divine worship,and I understand many American and propbably Canadian Catholics do not actually worship Mary.But I watch EWTN often and really Dan,much of what is said about Mary,and the practices of devotion to her are exactly the very reason why Prots and evangelicals reject Catholicism.The reasoning given by Catholic teachers on the devotion to Mary often exceeds the boundaries of what some Catholics try to say do not exist in the whole of Catholicism.

Mary is not in any way the Spouse of the Holy Spirit,for instance.Even trying to reason such a thought is preposterous.

Catholics cannot separate in their mindset the Man Christ Jesus,from the Eternal God He was and is and IS to come. Jesus was the Son of Man,and technically still is due to His resurrected Body.But it is in that realm of His being the Son of Man that He also is the Son of Mary.YET,Catholics and Orthodox insist that Mary is the Mother of God,and that if we do not call her such,than we do not believe in the Incarnation.Mary was the Mother of Jesus the Son of Man,Mother of the Man Jesus,giving Him flesh and blood from her mortal body.

To say that Mary is the Mother of God is to separate Jesus from the Father and the Holy Spirit,that He is a separate or a God alone from the Father and the Holy Spirit.JESUS is with the Father and the Holy Spirit G O D.The Three are not separate Gods.GOD is ONE,indivisible.The Godhead is the OFFICE of Their being,the Administration of the Father,Son and Holy Spirit=ONE GOD forever and ever.

So if you say that Mary is the Mother of God,you are saying technically that she is the Mother of the Father-Son,and the Holy Spirit.Which of course for a mortal human being that is impossible,and should not be even mentioned.

She bore the Man Christ Jesus who WAS from the beginning G o d.She did not bear God,because He was God before she even existed.But she bore the total humanity of the Person Jesus,anointed to be the Messiah,and who IS God from the Father and the Holy Spirit of Promise to all humanity.

But as Son of Man Jesus lived in the realm of being lesser than the Angels for 30+ years,He died in human agony,but was RAISED by the Father from the dead.His separate role of being the Son of Man changed to the Eternal Son from what was His roots to begin with,He sits at the right hand of His Father in GLORY!

Since: Nov 08

usa

#416745 Jan 19, 2013
Truth wrote:
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God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
if there is a god your right,and if there isn't your wronng in death there is darkness and nothing more,and since the one god theory has not been proven to be true,in death there is darkness,don't care if you believe in god or not,everyone is afraid to die or does not want to die. admit or not everyone has that little bit of fear and uncertainty within them that says "what if".
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416746 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...That's right....change course....because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. BUSTED!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA!!!!!!!
Catholic-in-denial is unable to answer honestly, so Catholic-in-denial attacks messenger.

Again...

The RCC stood against the Bill of Rights then.

Who changed?

If Catholic-in-denial actually answered, the spiritual; claim would be.... BUSTED
DWWashburn

Honolulu, HI

#416747 Jan 19, 2013
You idiots don't read the bible! A priest is caught raping your sons; he turns to you and says, "There is nothing in the 10 commandments that says that I cannot have sex with your sons. Now bugger off!" And you blindly obey.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416748 Jan 19, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Been there and done the bible only Protestant (merry-go-round circus" for over over 35 years!....It's called Protestant "confusion, chaos, and distortion of Sacred Scripture, which is all "laced with" sola scriptura heresy, in denial of TRUE Church History and Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.....YOU CAN HAVE IT--all 42,000+ contradicting and inconsistent (hodge-podge) of Protestant denominations that "do nothing" but their pass personal judgement and condemnation upon any and all Christians, especially Catholics!!!
Catholic-in-denial avoids issue.

If your religion requires the use of diplomatic immunity to obstruct justice for sexually abused orphans, you might want to think about getting out of it.

No one at the Vatican denies what Catholic-in-denial denies. Vatican spin is too absurd to even use here.

FACTS are the enemy of Catholic-in-denial.
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#416749 Jan 19, 2013
III. CHRIST JESUS -- "MEDIATOR AND FULLNESS OF ALL REVELATION"25

God has said everything in his Word

65 "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son."26 Christ, the Son of God made man, is the Father's one, perfect and unsurpassable Word. In him he has said everything; there will be no other word than this one. St. John of the Cross, among others, commented strikingly on Hebrews 1:1-2:

In giving us his Son, his only Word (for he possesses no other), he spoke everything to us at once in this sole Word - and he has no more to say... because what he spoke before to the prophets in parts, he has now spoken all at once by giving us the All Who is His Son. Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behavior but also of offending him, by not fixing his eyes entirely upon Christ and by living with the desire for some other novelty.27

There will be no further Revelation

66 "The Christian economy, therefore, since it is the new and definitive Covenant, will never pass away; and no new public revelation is to be expected before the glorious manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ."28 Yet even if Revelation is already complete, it has not been made completely explicit; it remains for Christian faith gradually to grasp its full significance over the course of the centuries.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a1.htm#II...
DWWashburn

Honolulu, HI

#416750 Jan 19, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Been there and done the bible only Protestant (merry-go-round circus" for over over 35 years!....It's called Protestant "confusion, chaos, and distortion of Sacred Scripture, which is all "laced with" sola scriptura heresy, in denial of TRUE Church History and Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.....YOU CAN HAVE IT--all 42,000+ contradicting and inconsistent (hodge-podge) of Protestant denominations that "do nothing" but their pass personal judgement and condemnation upon any and all Christians, especially Catholics!!!
Now one damn thing about the raped children and how your priests are covering up the crimes!

I wonder if Jesus raped boys, too?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#416751 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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May 05
Kykkos Mother of God
The original of this icon is attributed to St. Luke (the Apostle). It is reputed to have traveled extensively before it came to rest in Cyprus where it is credited with numerous miracles and healings. Copies of this icon became commonplace in Russian in the 17th century.
http://holy-icons.com/category/ourlady/
first of all Almighty God does not have a Mother It would mean He was created.
second of all Regina, I believe with all my heart that you love the Lord, I really do.
I am just trying to show you from History and From a bibical view point that the catholic church is not the true church of God.
(NOR IS THE PROTESTANT).
Every religion on this earth has a different doctrine.
God is unchangeable. Yesterday, today, and tomorrow, He is the same to all generations.
The O.T. church started with Abraham, God made a covenant with Him. The N.T. Church Was a Blood Covenant we are under the blood of Jesus .
If I choose a religious doctrine from the many denomination, I have to ask myself am I going against the teachings of Jesus.
I have to go by what the Bible says. Regina and get under some solid bible Holy Spirit teachers.
Who preach the teachings of Jesus Christ. not what Pastor Bob, or Father So and So says.
The Holy Spirit flows like a river Regina, when you are sitting under the anointing of a Spirit Filled Preacher you know the difference , between the real thing and a fake .
Pad

Rockford, IL

#416752 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
THE THEOTOKOS
by Archbishop Dmitri of Dallas and the South
The piety of the Church gives a rather prominent place to the one whom we call the Theotokos, she who gave birth to God, the ever-virgin Mary. On August 15th, we celebrate the major feast day known as the Dormition or Falling-asleep of the Mother of God. Three weeks from that date, on September 8th, we celebrate her birth. There are, of course, other feasts in her honor, and no service of the Church fails to make reference to her. Prayers are addressed to her and hymns to her glorification are sung. In them we call her "more honorable than the cherubim and without compare more glorious than the Seraphim …"
It is difficult to understand a Christian piety that does not include the most Holy Theotokos.
http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/arti...
Mary gave birth to the Man,Son of Man,Jesus. She cannot give birth to God.The Human being with flesh and blood,is what Mary gave birth to.Her humanity was poured into His Person,and He became a living,breathing baby boy,later to become a Man with maturity.He was to be taught the ways of human life from both Mary and Joseph,all included to respectfully add to His stature as a Man.

Being God already from eternity which has no beginning with God,it is impossible for Mary to give birth to God,she is responsible and BLESSED as the woman who gave birth to the total humanity of J e s u s the Man,called in Scripture the Son of Man.That alone is the magnitude of truth that enfolds Mary as the Mother of Jesus,in VIRGIN Birth,yet clothing Him in human flesh and blood.I think that is enough for one maiden to bear.

The fact that Jesus already IS GOD gives no place for what HE obtained in Human flesh and blood from Mary.That is the glory of God Regina,that Jesus inherited flesh and blood from Mary,His humanity is due to her alone,no man had a part in it.God allowed Mary the unique role of bringing about the Incarnation through her very body,that is blessed.She has no credit in the fact that Jesus is indeed G O D with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#416753 Jan 19, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Jack Daniels is light; in him there is no darkness at all, says the drunk. God is your bottle of booze because you can't cope.
that's a little harsh,sarcasim is not necessary,if you have a point to make just make it like a man/woman,not like a school kid bully,there is enough of that on here from the catholics.they seem to be the worst when it comes to being harsh and nasty when you post something that they don't like.
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#416754 Jan 19, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Filioque about the Blessed Virgin Mary????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
(See Eastern Orthodox Icons of the Theotokos linked above.)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Again, Ironic isn't it -- that Mary's status would be the beginning of the great East-West Schism (Filioque controversy, late 500's)

No? Wasn't Mary's status one reason why the Eastern Church was against the notion that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father, not from the Son?

But focusing on such details is a great way to avoid real-life Facts.

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