Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 589523 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#415577 Jan 14, 2013
Aviela wrote:
Correction: what makes me a Devil's child...
Don't over-worry yourself about it, you aren't.

There are many so-called "Christians" on this forum, who like to make up things about others, "God", and who knows who else.

Shoot - they can't even be honest enough to admit that they only follow a portion of Jesus' teachings.

BTW - you won't receive any viable answer to your question, so just move on past it.

I've yet to still receive an answer on why I am "the spawn of the devil".

Ya see - illogical at best, but not to the one who is misguided by the lies of Christianity.

Cheers!

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#415578 Jan 14, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
What are the fruits of Roman Catholicism???
Let's compare Catholic and non-Catholic societies in the Americas.
Here wee see the fruits of Catholicism:
more poverty
more crime
fewer basic human rights
more corruption
more drugs
shorter average life span
Ain't Catholicism great!!!:o)
Free Mind

Yes....We have to keep picking up the poor and establishing basic human rights, lessen crime and corruption, drug abuse, better food and medicine.

It is called the corporal works of mercy. And the Catholic Church needs to do more in the world. The world is in such a bad state now....

Unfortunately, we have to go against the world leaders and nations that "call" themselves "advanced"....What a laugh.... Its a challenge to go up against the most murderous country in the world with its murderous abortion, and highest incarceration rates in the world, its decline in education, its massive addiction to drugs....

But thanks for reminding me....

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#415579 Jan 14, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
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A few Priests here and a few Priests there are NOT the issue.
It's the WORLDWIDE, DECADES LONG, INSTITUTIONAL COVER-UP that tells the world the one-true claim is baloney.
Jesus would not stand for such a thing from his church.
Jesus has self-respect.
"hojo" doesn't understand.

As you can see with his posts, they are all the same rant and nonsense.

IMO - he doesn't have a clue on what he thinks he knows, and lives to wallow in the same few sentences he's promoted for the past couple of years.

Just let him keep believing in the lie. Maybe one day, he'll see it for himself.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#415580 Jan 14, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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Free Mind
Yes....We have to keep picking up the poor and establishing basic human rights, lessen crime and corruption, drug abuse, better food and medicine.
It is called the corporal works of mercy. And the Catholic Church needs to do more in the world. The world is in such a bad state now....
Unfortunately, we have to go against the world leaders and nations that "call" themselves "advanced"....What a laugh.... Its a challenge to go up against the most murderous country in the world with its murderous abortion, and highest incarceration rates in the world, its decline in education, its massive addiction to drugs....
But thanks for reminding me....
And where is "God" why all this is occurring?

A: Kicking it back on Cloud 9 with Jimi, Janice, Jerry, Bonzo - and probably listening to some kick-ass jams!

It's people like you have love to circumvent the actualities and "hope" something comes about from it good - all the while, you still watch the same ol'-same ol'.

Again I ask, where is your "God" while all this is occuring?

Not as powerful as your team claims "Him" to be.

Shoot - "He" couldn't even give "His children" all the same information regarding which religion is accurate.

Here's a dollar - go and buy a clue.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#415581 Jan 14, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
RUN CATHOLICS, RUN!! But they can't run from this.
FACT: Matthew, Mark and Luke ALL agree.
There is no such thing as HOLY Diplomatic Immunity from justice for children.
Catholics here cannot look this reality in the eye.
Individual Priests cannot invoke diplomatic immunity. It is the church that makes a claim of immunity on behalf of "priests."
There is no way in Hell that Jesus would guide such a travesty of justice.
Next.....
What are the fruits of Catholicism?
Free Mind

Paul extended his time on earth by declaring diplomatic immunity from the Jews in Jerusalem, by being a Roman citizen.

Therefore, diplomatic immunity can be used....

Your statement is a strawman of course. The RCC does not claim diplomatic immunity for the priests. Rather it seeks to protect its priests as it does for everyone living in these times of rampant crime in the world, oppressive nationalistic fervor, and unreasoned ignorance.
Clay

United States

#415582 Jan 14, 2013
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>When one seeks to give attributes to any crreated being and place them spiritually on a higher plain than all others and give them super titles such as 'Queen of Heaven', Holy Father, Arch bishop etc. one is attempting to deify that person. When one attributes to a created being that are to be attributed to God alone, the same is true. This has been a progressive process in the RCC. When Mary is ascribed as being sinless (just like Jesus) when Mary was said to have been raised bodily(just like Jesus) when Mary is oft referred to as 'co-meditor', co-redeemer and such, the RCC has sought to elevate her well above what the scriptures do. And to say the very least, it fringes on idolatry. And it takes away from the all sufficiency of Jesus Christ.
Mary wasn't the only one who was raised bodily to heaven without suffering death. So your argument that this Catholic dogma is equating her to Christ is null.
Mary takes nothing away to the sufficiency of Jesus Christ.
We treat her the same way Jesus did. We imitate Christ by doing what He did in honoring His father AND Mother.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415583 Jan 14, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Or this:
Idiom Definitions for 'Arrow in the quiver'
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An arrow in the quiver is a strategy or option that could be used to achieve your objective.
Read more at http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/...
Psalm 127
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415584 Jan 14, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Mary wasn't the only one who was raised bodily to heaven without suffering death. So your argument that this Catholic dogma is equating her to Christ is null.
Mary takes nothing away to the sufficiency of Jesus Christ.
We treat her the same way Jesus did. We imitate Christ by doing what He did in honoring His father AND Mother.
Jesus didn't pray to Mary or any other saint dead or alive.He prayed to the Father.
Mary takes nothing away from Jesus is true, the catholic Church does.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#415585 Jan 14, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Jesus didn't pray to Mary or any other saint dead or alive.He prayed to the Father.
Mary takes nothing away from Jesus is true, the catholic Church does.
Jesus was God. He certainly didn't require intercession.

How does the veneration of Mary diminish Christ (as if anyone or anything could)?
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415587 Jan 14, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry buddy 3 does not equal 1. You keep saying father this and son that but you believe they are the same person. Now who's who confused?
God sent God down to impregnate Mary so she could give birth to God, so God would some how orchestrate his own death so he could die as God and return to heaven to be with God.

Pagan beliefs also had their trinities. Triune God in christianity is just THEIR version of what others believed in the past.

MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415589 Jan 14, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Jesus was God. He certainly didn't require intercession.
How does the veneration of Mary diminish Christ (as if anyone or anything could)?
You were taught and believe that 3 persons in one God are all equal, yet its obvious that God the father makes all the decisions for the other 2 persons of God.

....So much for equality......
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415588 Jan 14, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
1 Peter 1:1-2
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To God’s elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia,
2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of [[[God the Father,]]] through the sanctifying [[[work of the Spirit,]]] to be [[[obedient to Jesus Christ]]] and sprinkled with his blood:
Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
God the Father
Work of the Holy Spirit
Obedient to Jesus Christ
The Apostle Peter begins to give us (Christians) a unique view of the trinity, the Father, Spirit and Son.
Truth; Its sad, that one man mixed people up like this but then that is all it takes.
Look at Waco, and Jim Jones.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#415590 Jan 14, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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You were taught and believe that 3 persons in one God are all equal, yet its obvious that God the father makes all the decisions for the other 2 persons of God.
....So much for equality......
Um, yeah, I believe in the Holy Trinity.

Is this now controversial?
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415591 Jan 14, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>guest first brought up the word "sop", and since I was eating some bean soup and since this is how we do it, grab a piece of corn bread, dip it in the beans and go to town, and if you drop the bread in the beans, not a biggie. use your own method to get it out. since I am civilized, I get it out the best way I can.
another piece of bread works, but a spoon is the easiest.
the point was, that even tho this word "sop" was centuries old, the practice is still the same as it was back at the Lords Supper.
I don't think they had spoons, bean soup, corn bread and shirt pockets 2,000 years ago.

I'm just saying!

MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415592 Jan 14, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Sheesh.
Go the agnostic boards and swap spit with them.
I'll even tell them you're the most well-informed, rational smiter of the faithful ever and that if he could, Ingersoll himself would come out of his grave so you two could hit his old lecture circuit together.
Better?
If it was just catholics discussing dusty old stories from ancient people 2,000 years ago, this forum would have ended. 415,000 posts and 5 years ago.

Be lucky that so called non-catholics bring much to the discussions, or none of us would be here today.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#415593 Jan 14, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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If it was just catholics discussing dusty old stories from ancient people 2,000 years ago, this forum would have ended. 415,000 posts and 5 years ago.
Be lucky that so called non-catholics bring much to the discussions, or none of us would be here today.
Pat's hung on past his time. He could use a break.

He's just pasting quotes from famous agnostics and calling everyone "lair" (his spelling, not mine).
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415594 Jan 14, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry buddy 3 does not equal 1. You keep saying father this and son that but you believe they are the same person. Now who's who confused?
I figured this would go right over your head, and it did....

No surprise there!!!
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415595 Jan 14, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Jesus was God. He certainly didn't require intercession.
How does the veneration of Mary diminish Christ (as if anyone or anything could)?
Maryism(not real name) is an old pagan religion Dan, some thought all forgotten but its not.
But its been resurracted Pope John II being one of its followers and who knows how many before him.
Since the 1950's the catholic Church has exalted her to a new level of worship.
Look around the world Dan and tell me people are not worshipping her they carry her through the streets and adore her with flowers gems and other perious stones, gold etc. Bowing and kissing her feet crying ripping at their clothes , if that isn't worship what would you call it. "Its Idol worship"
The wafers that the catholic Church claimm turns to the flesh of Jesus was made for the sungodess which has different names all depends on the language. Look at the imprint on them and tell me what you see on it.
Catholic better wake up soon or its going to be to late
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415596 Jan 14, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Does this make sense?.....Nope!...Let's take you back to basics. Like Adam and Eve. Do you know who they are?
Quite true that you need to go back to Bible 101...
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#415597 Jan 14, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Jesus didn't pray to Mary or any other saint dead or alive.He prayed to the Father.
Mary takes nothing away from Jesus is true, the catholic Church does.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead...

If an Evangelical Christian believes that devotion to Mary replaces proper devotion to Jesus ask him to imagine what it would be like if he discovered that another Christian group thought Evangelicals were in grave error because of their emphasis on the Bible. Ask him to imagine that these fictional Christians accuse Evangelicals of neglecting Jesus because of their devotion to the Bible.

These hypothetical Christians say,“You evangelicals stress the Bible to the neglect of Jesus. You call your churches ‘Bible’ churches and have ’Bible’ colleges instead of ‘Christian’ churches and colleges. Inside your church you don’t have pictures of Jesus, you don’t have any crucifixes; and you don’t have the Stations of the Cross. Instead, all you have is a big central pulpit to preach the Bible.”

The accusers could go on and point out that “The New Testament says the early Christians ‘devoted themselves … to the breaking of the bread’(Acts 2:42) and that the way to remember Jesus and proclaim his death is through the Eucharist (1 Cor. 11:24-26); yet you Evangelicals have the Lord’s Supper once a month, or even less often, and the main feature of your church service is a long Bible sermon. You have removed the cross of Christ and replaced it with the Bible.”

These accusers say,“You Evangelicals even have a formal doctrine named sola Scriptura. This man-made dogma is a later distortion and addition to the Christian faith—something that is unheard of both in the Scriptures themselves and in the early church. This dogma (which you treat as infallible) states that the Bible and not Jesus is the only source of Truth. You teach your children to memorize Bible verses instead of receiving Jesus in communion. You teach them to sing,‘The B-I-B-L-E,/ Yes that‘s the book for me./ I stand alone on the word of God….’ Notice how they are not to stand alone on the sure foundation of Jesus Christ (1 Cor. 3:11), but on the Bible instead! Evangelical preachers say that there is no way anyone can come to God without believing the Bible. They declare their undying love for the Bible instead of Jesus. They say how their lives are totally dedicated to preaching the Bible instead of the cross of Christ.”

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