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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590831 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Perth, Australia

#415497 Jan 14, 2013
its so simple
You are created on his image..do you liked that..i don't know..simple i am not to much care or i am going judge you about that..you have free will what you want from yourself up to you.
Please don't force anyone about love what others like or not.
We are deference in many aspect.
Are you for sure your God presented on your Altar in your temple?
noooooooooooooooooo
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415498 Jan 14, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Morality are the rules of human group co-operation. They exist in us because they are a benefit to our survival. Civilization could not occur without these rules of co-operation. They evolved in us through natural selection like any other useful trait.
Can consciousness come from unconsciousness?
marge

Ames, IA

#415499 Jan 14, 2013
Dan wrote:
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How on Earth would Clay or anyone know if anyone actually worships Mary?
Statuary or artwork is not more "idolatry" than a protestant church or person festooned with a cross.
The Bible doesn't forbid statuary anyway. You say so yourself:
"The literal Greek translation of the 2nd commandment does not say 'putting images in [lace of Him as deity'. The literal translation is 'Thou shalt have no other gods in My presence.'"
Put the tract down and think.
Hey Dan it's been awhile, how are you?

You don't think praying to or bowing to Mary is a act of worship?
truth

Perth, Australia

#415500 Jan 14, 2013
perhaps not micle..
Your science is less then half in entire known universe.

Are you pro-life or pro-death?
deference between weed seed and life of tree..
you can explain deference to your science if you
can't see other side..then become silence.
Are you for sure i am wrong?
We can be crazy as well lazy.
Depend crazy of your sience mama farma ceut deut ceutic..Are you for sure i am wrong?
As well lazy..depend how you look on other side..spiritual life..its can be spiritual life but not holy as every spirit is not holy..no.
any effect about that..yes to be lazy its perfect answer..keep you as prisoner.
I am ok.
be good micle
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415501 Jan 14, 2013
4GVN wrote:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth..........
.....
The instructions are explicitly clear, and those who love the Lord do NOT seek to find a reason to disregard such clear teaching.

...The bible writings are crystal clear. No graven images! How can catholics dipute these writings, especially! when THEIR OWN CATHOLIC FATHERS WROTE AND RECORDED THESE WRITINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

makes no common sense!

BUSTED!



Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415502 Jan 14, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Ever hear of sex?
Do me a favor?

What if you should disassemble a watch, place all the parts into a box (no parts missing,) close the box, tape all sides so no parts can fall out, and begin shaking, I mean shake it up good.

How long before the watch will be fully assembled again?
marge

Ames, IA

#415503 Jan 14, 2013
Dan wrote:
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As you insist on pushing the total ban on statuary for those "who love the Lord", please tell the board what you and your fellows use instead of coins for currency. Coins contain the engraved relief images of US presidents and other things, and are thus unworthy of you.
Anxious to hear what work-around solution you've found for this.
Thanks in advance.
Huh? The love of money is the root of all evil, not money itself.
Pat

Granby, CT

#415504 Jan 14, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Can consciousness come from unconsciousness?
Yes, many boxers will wake up after being knocked out. Whya re you so stupid? Was god unwilling or unable to give you a decent IQ?
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415505 Jan 14, 2013
Pat wrote:
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God this, god that... You like all others have no knowledge of any god, whether he exists, what he does, wants, thinks or is. This proves you to be a typical theist, an amoral liar.
Its all based on FEAR.

........ Religious people worry more about the so called next life than they do about the life they should be enjoying here on earth right now. That clearly shows they are not happy in the current life they live.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415506 Jan 14, 2013
Pat wrote:
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God this, god that... You like all others have no knowledge of any god, whether he exists, what he does, wants, thinks or is. This proves you to be a typical theist, an amoral liar.
Paul wrote:

".....since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things which are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse."
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415507 Jan 14, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>he died a few years ago. I think the name of his ministry was worldwide church of god.
here are some views of that statement about the lost tribes which they now reject as being untrue
10. British Israelism/Anglo-Israelism.(und er Armstrong)-- Views the "lost ten tribes" of Israel as the key to prophecy. Claims that "Judah" and "Israel" always refer to the two separate nations, and that inhabitants of Great Britain are of the tribe of Ephraim, while the inhabitants of America are of the tribe of Manasseh.(Armstrong never did explain how a Britisher, by immigrating to the U.S., moves from the tribe of Ephraim to the tribe of Manasseh.) Claims that white Anglo-Saxons are the chosen people of God.
British Israelism/Anglo-Israelism.(und er Tkach)-- Late-1995, the church officially rejected the doctrine that the Anglo-Saxons descended from the tribes of Israel
The doctrinal foundation of the Worldwide Church of God was adopted from the Seventh-Day Adventists through the Church of God-7th Day. Armstrong added the Identity of Modern Israel theory which he obtained from J. H. Allen and the Jewish Feast Days
this is like the jw's"Also, the Holy Spirit is not a person, but an active force emanating from God. " marge would go bonkes on this statement.Armstrong taught that a believer could lose salvation by disobeying what Armstrong declared to be "God's command through His chosen Apostle." He wrote, "Do you want to let resentment against God's government over you NOW disqualify you -- snatch you from God's GRACE and PURPOSE for you, and cast you into a lake of fire?" (Dear Brethren Letter, May 2, 1974, p. 7).
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/arm...
So Armstrong was a SDA, that explains a lot. My brother-in-law use to listen to him all the time. They have magazines he left it at my house once, Nancy my friend told me his teachings were not creditable her husband was my Pastor so I didn't read any more of his stuff.
I couldn't remember his name though ,
I am going to read up and do some studying on the 12 tribes of Israel , my interest has been peaked.
I will go to the church library and get some books on it.
The Pastor who knows a lot on this subject is very elderly now and sick, I miss his teachings a lot.
But he is always up for talking on this subject God Love Him.
Clay

United States

#415508 Jan 14, 2013
4GVN wrote:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth..........
.....
The instructions are explicitly clear, and those who love the Lord do NOT seek to find a reason to disregard such clear teaching.
You're purposely mis reading the commandment to make a case against the Catholic Church.

Why did God command the Jews to carve graven images of Angels in that very same book of Exodus?
Pat

Granby, CT

#415509 Jan 14, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Paul wrote:
".....since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things which are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse."
Please, just one fact, that is all I ask. Just one small fact that shows how your god and an imaginary god differ in some way. Please.
4GVN

Scott City, MO

#415510 Jan 14, 2013
Dan wrote:
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On second thought, all US currency incorporates graven images; paper money employs engraved images of US presidents and other things used to print the notes.
So again, let us know how you and your fellows work around this issue.
Thanks
The commands of God are to those who follow the teachings of God(obviously). The commands were not given to secular government leaders. They were to the 'church'.
It would seem quite clear that the prohibition was on 'religious' icons used by those who adhere to the teachings of God.
Can money be an 'idol'? Yes it can. But it was not created with religious intent.
You are still seeking to find a way NOT to follow God's clear command. WHY? Because that is what you have been taught.
And if there is any doubt, why not error on God's side? Why risk it? Are icons and statues something that the RCC MUST HAVE?
If I am wrong, I am 'safely' wrong. On the other hand if you are wrong you are guilty of mortal sin. It is an easy choice for me. What is your priority?
Pat

Granby, CT

#415511 Jan 14, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Paul wrote:
".....since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things which are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse."
So Paul too was a lair. Your point?
truth

Perth, Australia

#415512 Jan 14, 2013
we explain satanic spirit too,,,yes they attacking..its shame..no no its not shame for you be very proud about that..why should be..
Jesus Christ words is perfect..he explain perfection..killers of Christians is always full of pride..pride is great sin.

life is preserve..where others can't come..
by
Clay

United States

#415513 Jan 14, 2013
4GVN wrote:
Clay, can you explain to me exactly where is the line between veneration and worship? Do ANY catholics in all of the world EVER cross over that line? Is Mary ever 'worshipped' like God?
The literal Greek translation of the 2nd commandment does not say 'putting images in [lace of Him as deity'. The literal translation is 'Thou shalt have no other gods in My presence.'
Why do you think man's artistic ability in making images or icons somehow 'further glorifies Him.
If someone made a statue of Clay that looked nothing like Clay would you be pleased? Do you KNOW what Jesus looked like? And why do you feel that you need an image to 'hesp' you remember to worship God? Does He posses lso little of your heart and mind that you are always forgetting about Him?
And again you are ignoring the instructions regarding graven images. The scripture clearly says not to make unto thyself 'any graven images'. But why would you care what scripture says? You only care what the RCC says.
But someday you will give an account to God( not the magisterium) explaining why you chose to disregard His very detailed instructions.
How would I know if people worship Mary?

I would find that very very hard to believe that someone like a Catholic, would be so stupid to think Mary was a deity and worship her.
And I find it even more hard to believe that they would create a statue and worship THAT!

You have no argument unless you isolate a verse in the ten commandments and ignore what God said before and after... its you that will need to explain to God someday why you didn't use your brain. Or worse, why you used deliberate deceit to make your case.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#415514 Jan 14, 2013
4GVN wrote:
The Catholic Church long ago began making allowances for the idolatrous use of images by the way they reference the Ten Commandments. In the Catholic catechism and in most official Catholic documents, the first and second commandments are combined and then summarized with “I am the Lord your God. You shall not have other gods beside Me.” Suspiciously absent is what comprises the second commandment in the Protestant numbering of the Ten Commandments:“You shall not make any graven images.”
While it is understandable for “you shall not make any graven images” to be considered an aspect of “you shall not have other gods beside me,” based on the history of idolatry involving graven images throughout biblical and extra-biblical history, it seems unwise to not include “you shall not make any graven images” in every listing of the Ten Commandments. The omission seems especially suspicious in light of the fact that the Roman Catholic Church has long been accused of the idolatrous use of graven images.
There are good reasons for not using images in worship. First of all, the use of physical images to “aid” worship violates the command to worship God “in spirit and in truth”(John 4:23-24). Also, no one knows what God looks like, and John 1:18 is clear concerning this truth:“No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.” And, because God is Spirit (John 4:24a), it is irreverent to delineate Him as an iconic representation. No one alive knows what Jesus Christ looked like in the flesh, and, since there were no cameras when He walked the earth, the only description of His appearance is found in Isaiah 53:2-3, which says that He had “no stately form or majesty.”
The commandment on graven imagery pertains to idolatry.

Period.

Whoever's the author of this paste-up isn't licensed to add that line to every commandment, regardless of whoever has accused the Catholic Church of idolatry.

Again, as you doubtless use graven images (money and/or a cross) in your daily life, you acknowledge this reality.
truth

Perth, Australia

#415515 Jan 14, 2013
From reverse one peace of your hair..life can start..
its your conciseness where is not conciseness on your way of thinking.
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Clay

United States

#415516 Jan 14, 2013
4GVN wrote:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth..........
.....
The instructions are explicitly clear, and those who love the Lord do NOT seek to find a reason to disregard such clear teaching.
Please explain why Jewish temples are being unearthed today that have graven images in them?

One, just recently, was revealed to have a statue of a hand - a symbol to the Jews as the hand of God.
It also had graven images of Angels.

Bottom line, God forbids worship of statues - like the golden calf as another deity in place of God.
Hence the reason he'd be jealous.

You don't have your head screwed on right, if you believe God can be jealous of a carving of His Son!

You should be concerned with violating another Commandment about bearing false witness. But that is the only way you evangelicals seem to function.

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