Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

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#415356 Jan 13, 2013
disciple wrote:
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The role of the true church (cc in his mind) during tribulation time.
Ok, I think that I know that answer.

guest and the jw may not think so, but i think I know.

I think that I know where the "true church" will be and also where the cc wil be, But I dont think that they are one and the same.imo.so how could I tell him and still be civil about it?

or can a person be civil and truthful at the same time? it does present a problem, but one that God could work out
Clay

United States

#415357 Jan 13, 2013
disciple wrote:
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I'm not trying to argue with you just to give you an illustration.
It does not affect me if the cc wants to have statues of Mary.
I think it's wrong but that's it.
Why it makes God jealous? because he says so.
God doesn't say statues of Mary make Him Jealous. That wouldn't make sense.
Statues created as deitys and put in place of God would make Him Jealous.

You may have convinced yourself that Catholics create these statues to worship as a deity, but that don't make it truth. You can't ignore 1 billion testimonies and STILL falsely accuse us. That's violating the 9th commandment on your part.

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#415358 Jan 13, 2013
Guest wrote:
<quoted text>If we are buried with Christ in death then we are made/born alive again as was Christ who is the resurrection and life.
I think you people fail to see all they may be referring to.
Do you agree with the JW's that Jesus was born again?

How can Jesus Christ be a new creature in himself?

He was pure,he had no sin in him.

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#415359 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
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I remember my Mom doing that FOL, My Mom used every part of that pig. LOL
I eat no organ meat, but I love sausages.
Ever have cracklin bread?
Clay

United States

#415360 Jan 13, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>no hipocracy here,i just do not believe what the vatican/pope believe,that the catholic is the true church,and i show the history of the church which catholics close their eyes to that proves that point.how can you have a true church when you can't even prove a god exists.
Who then, is the true Church?

Whatever group it is, has the protection of Jesus Christ on faith and moral teachings. He promised to be with them until the end of time. He promised a visible Church, not a hidden secret one, and the gates of Hell will not bring it down- and neither will a handful of screwed up Priests.

I found that Church and I ain't about to call Christ a liar. This is called real faith in Jesus, Jethro.
All other Christian groups were started by some guy or girl with a personal take on the New Testament books.
Not the Catholic Church. It was started by Jesus Christ. No? Then where did that Church go that Christ was talking about?

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#415361 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>dad had a little garden, that he grew nothing but the seasoning, and even years later, when we would get sausage at astore, he would go out and grind up some and put it in the meat.
I really am not kidding or trying to gross you out, try the tongue some day, I guarantee that you will like it.
and you remember the hams, them we would salt down and eat them later. scrape the salt off and usually a little mold and man was that great. I keep going and i will lift the ham out of the beans and start eating again
Yes,we use to cure them with salt and they hung in the smoke house.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

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"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#415362 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Where in scripture is the word "bible" or "bible only" mentioned! Please back up your Protestant (personal opinionated" "pot of (made up) propaganda" with scripture!!

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You are a prime candidate for the antichrist ...

already you express disbelief in the word of God and argue for its editing and revision, set forth by your
religious system...

Already Roman Catholics have accepted the antichrist
for they have already stated here in this forum the
antichrist teachings that all religions are just different ships headed for the same island...

Already... Roman Catholics here in this forum ..have denied... Jesus words when he said...

Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

They Also deny the word of Jesus...when He said...

Joh_6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

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You have added in you carnal teaching that glorify the
created in place of the creator.

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Rom 1:22 Professing themselves/YOURSELVES to be wise, they/YOU have... became fools/A FOOL...

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image

made like to corruptible man,

and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave/HASGIVEN/ them/YOU up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their/YOUR own bodies between themselves/YOURSELVES:(EECOME HOMOSEXUALS AND PERVERTS...

Rom 1:25 Who (THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH (have) changed the truth of God into a lie,(FABLES, CONJECTURE ...MADE IT CONTINGENT)

worshipped and served the creature.(MARY THE SAINTS
your IDOLS AND YOUR DYNASTY IN ROME)

more than the Creator/GOD, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#415363 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
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It is God's Holy Scripture , Moses wrote the first 5 books that was long before catholic anything.
Book, chapter and verse--please where the exact word "bible or bible only appears"!!!!!
Clay

United States

#415364 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Where was Mary before God ?? to be His Mother she would be His creator.
You forgot Abraham, Moses, and King David, are they not part of God's Church.
In Acts the Church was impowered by the Holy Spirit, He said he had to go away but would send a comforter who would teach us all things (Who Is the comforter It is God the Holy Spirit).
Mary has no Power, She is not Queen Of Heaven, She can not hear your Prayers neither other dead people can dead people.
Regina told me once no one knows who will go to heaven till they get there, so if people don't know who is in heaven its a good chance you could be praying to someone who is in Hell.
As satan can hear you pray its a good chance you could be
conjuring up demons like King Saul did.
He got a medium to bring Samuel back from the dead : He losts his life and so did His son Jonathon.
You will bring a curse on yourself and your family.
God said we are not to pray to the dead. weather they are in heaven or hell.
And there is no purgatory, that was made up to lout people pockets.
Catholic's plainly ignore what God says 'THOU SHALL NOT DO".
DO YOU THINK YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM THE WREATH THAT IS TO COME,
AGAINST ALL THOSE WHO THINK THEY CAN ADD AND SUBTRACT FROM GOD'S HOLY SCRIPTURE OR CHANGE THEM TO SUIT YOURSELF.
I WONDER HOW THE CATHOLIC'S ARE GOING TO EXPLAIN ALL THAT, ON JUDGEMENT DAY. WELL I AM NOT TO BOTHER MYSELF WITH THAT IT ISN'T MY BUSINESS. I HAVE TO WORK OUT MY OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING.
Catholics believe this... Catholics believe that.. Catholics worship this... Blah Blah.

How come you can't have a religion without falsely accusing us?

My friend emails me about anti catholic slander his pastor spreads about us every week. I asked him why his pastor is so fearful of Catholicism. How come his religion can't stand on its feet without slandering Catholicism every week?

I believe the answer is that his pastor knows the truth. He looked into scripture and saw the Catholic faith. But he has a career and a congregation now. He can't let that go. He is on the pulpit trying to convince himself Catholicism is wrong, he's not trying to convince his followers!
(although he obviously is mindful of his reputation as his people leave one by one for the CC. It would be pretty embarrassing for a career minister)
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#415365 Jan 13, 2013
disciple wrote:
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2Timothy 3:16
You keep "desperately" reading something into this verse that ANYONE can see, "is not there"! There is "nothing" in this verse that says every word MUST be in the bible in order for it to be true. You Protestants just continue to "make things up" as you go along, which is "nothing new". Nice try but this is just another one of your Protestant bible only "myths" that has absolutely "no basis of biblical truth"!!!
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#415366 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Matthew 24 is for the Jewish people, the Born Again beleiver is already gone. and this Scripture proves it and it aint vague.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
now I aint as smart as you and the jw, so I got to try and figure this out.
first Jesus saves us and gives us salvation.
now people like you tell me that after we get saved, God kills us in the tribulation.
sumthin just dont add up 2 me.lol
wot about that scripture that tells us that we shall all be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of the eye(1/33,000 of a second), and what about around 25 years ago, scientists found in the human body a molecule that is able to be chamged in that same exact time, and they published it in their scientific journal,
I will believe what God says, rather than two idiots like you two, just saying.for it is written
"Matthew 24:4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, "Take heed that no man deceive you."NOTICE THAT JESUS IS TALKING TO JEWS, NOT THE CHURCH.
AND THIS FURTHER CONFIRMS IT.Matthew 24:9 "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations(SEE THAT) for my name's sake
it is appointed unto man once to die.
Absoulutely we will be changed in the twinking of an eye at the last trump on resurrection day those aleep/dead in Christ then those that remain and or alive at that time.

Aren't we wonderfully made :P

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#415367 Jan 13, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I decided to become a JW after going to many religions looking for answers for simple questions. Non could answer me. None. I fell in love with the non racist brotherhood the love they shown me..its beyond comprehension. Nothing in this world comes close to our faith. I have close 7millions brothers and sisters plus worldwide. The fact that they can discuss the Bible with me and not have a funky nasty attitude like some here proved that they are God's people. No one has ever cursed me out or called me the devil's child..you know the rest:oD I'm in happy land!
I don't have an attitude,I just care,that's all.

Of course when you discuss your NWT with others that believe as you,your gonna agree.

You have an attitude towards the ones who do not believe as you.

That is why you are here.

You know that we believe in the diety of Christ.

You deny His diety.

How can you do that?

He died for our sins.

Would your friends die for you?

I have never called anyone a child of the devil,but I had a JW of call me one.

God as my witness,she called me that.
She told me I was like my father the devil.

Great witnessing huh?

Shge went by the name of Student.

She said she had not been baptized into the Org.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#415368 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
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Ever have crackling bread?
~~~

Crackling Corn pone... is the tasty..

With pinto beans cooked with fat Back...

Collard greens, or turnip salad with black-eyed peas.

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#415369 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Book, chapter and verse--please where the exact word "bible or bible only appears"!!!!!
what point are u trying to make HOJO?

the bible is a compliation of letters written by most of the Apostles to different churches, or their rendition and recollections of what occured during the lifetime of jesus, so why would be so mockful?

this is the Word of God and should be shown our utmost respect.

and if you or anyone else claims to be a Christian, then it should be a book that sets your lifestyle, and one that you follow it to a tee.

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God(that is sola scripture)

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#415370 Jan 13, 2013
so I got hungry again and am eating scalloped potatoes and baked pork cchop.

at this rate, I will get my lost weight back very quickly

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#415371 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
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I don't have an attitude,I just care,that's all.
Of course when you discuss your NWT with others that believe as you,your gonna agree.
You have an attitude towards the ones who do not believe as you.
That is why you are here.
You know that we believe in the diety of Christ.
You deny His diety.
How can you do that?
He died for our sins.
Would your friends die for you?
I have never called anyone a child of the devil,but I had a JW of call me one.
God as my witness,she called me that.
She told me I was like my father the devil.
Great witnessing huh?
Shge went by the name of Student.
She said she had not been baptized into the Org.
~~~

Do yo remember the mass baptism of Jw's in New York city years ago,

when they turned a fire hose on a group of them?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#415372 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
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this is the Word of God and should be shown our utmost respect.
and if you or anyone else claims to be a Christian, then it should be a book that sets your lifestyle, and one that you follow it to a tee.
That is easy to say, when you don't read that bible. jesus stated very clearly that all of god's laws are to be followed.

Do you follow them?

Of course not! You don't even try.

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#415373 Jan 13, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I decided to become a JW after going to many religions looking for answers for simple questions. Non could answer me. None. I fell in love with the non racist brotherhood the love they shown me..its beyond comprehension. Nothing in this world comes close to our faith. I have close 7millions brothers and sisters plus worldwide. The fact that they can discuss the Bible with me and not have a funky nasty attitude like some here proved that they are God's people. No one has ever cursed me out or called me the devil's child..you know the rest:oD I'm in happy land!
You wrote:

I fell in love with the non racist brotherhood

I fell in love with Jesus.

He's the one who died for my sins.

He's the one that loved me so good that he save my soul.

He can save your's too,

No brotherhood can save you dear.

Look to Jesus.

I pray you ponder on this.

Not a brotherhood.

The gospel message is about salvation.

Without it,we cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#415374 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
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Do you agree with the JW's that Jesus was born again?
How can Jesus Christ be a new creature in himself?
He was pure,he had no sin in him.
True but he was made sin.

2 Corinthians 5:21

King James Version (KJV)


21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Do you dny Christ dies and rose again quickened by the spirit and resurrected.

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#415375 Jan 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Do yo remember the mass baptism of Jw's in New York city years ago,
when they turned a fire hose on a group of them?
No,I don't remember that.
I will check into that though.

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