Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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#415373 Jan 13, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I decided to become a JW after going to many religions looking for answers for simple questions. Non could answer me. None. I fell in love with the non racist brotherhood the love they shown me..its beyond comprehension. Nothing in this world comes close to our faith. I have close 7millions brothers and sisters plus worldwide. The fact that they can discuss the Bible with me and not have a funky nasty attitude like some here proved that they are God's people. No one has ever cursed me out or called me the devil's child..you know the rest:oD I'm in happy land!
You wrote:

I fell in love with the non racist brotherhood

I fell in love with Jesus.

He's the one who died for my sins.

He's the one that loved me so good that he save my soul.

He can save your's too,

No brotherhood can save you dear.

Look to Jesus.

I pray you ponder on this.

Not a brotherhood.

The gospel message is about salvation.

Without it,we cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#415374 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you agree with the JW's that Jesus was born again?
How can Jesus Christ be a new creature in himself?
He was pure,he had no sin in him.
True but he was made sin.

2 Corinthians 5:21

King James Version (KJV)


21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Do you dny Christ dies and rose again quickened by the spirit and resurrected.

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#415375 Jan 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Do yo remember the mass baptism of Jw's in New York city years ago,
when they turned a fire hose on a group of them?
No,I don't remember that.
I will check into that though.

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#415376 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have an attitude,I just care,that's all.
Of course when you discuss your NWT with others that believe as you,your gonna agree.
You have an attitude towards the ones who do not believe as you.
That is why you are here.
You know that we believe in the diety of Christ.
You deny His diety.
How can you do that?
He died for our sins.
Would your friends die for you?
I have never called anyone a child of the devil,but I had a JW of call me one.
God as my witness,she called me that.
She told me I was like my father the devil.
Great witnessing huh?
Shge went by the name of Student.
She said she had not been baptized into the Org.
I have never shared this before but here goes. I had not been saved very long when a friend asked me to go to the hopistal and pray for a woman. after terry talked to her, he asked me to lead in Prayer, karen, the look of that womans face changed and her voice did to and she called me a name(dust storm wouldnt like it if I said it). it was like the devil took possession of her, and a curtain seem to fall between me and her.so i left the room and when terry came out, he told me that she was a jw.

I said one time on this forum that the devil knows me, and that experience is what has led me to believe that.

as it is written, And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

well this spirit knew me(not my name, but my office or job if you will)
truth

Perth, Australia

#415377 Jan 13, 2013
We don't have nothing against anyone.
We say here..what we can trust..we say ..I trust in you Jesus.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#415378 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have an attitude,I just care,that's all.
Of course when you discuss your NWT with others that believe as you,your gonna agree.
You have an attitude towards the ones who do not believe as you.
That is why you are here.
You know that we believe in the diety of Christ.
You deny His diety.
How can you do that?
He died for our sins.
Would your friends die for you?
I have never called anyone a child of the devil,but I had a JW of call me one.
God as my witness,she called me that.
She told me I was like my father the devil.
Great witnessing huh?
Shge went by the name of Student.
She said she had not been baptized into the Org.
I am a JW I am in Jehovah's earthly organisation and I'm very proud of that. You all want to come up with these so called horrific stories of what some JW did to you. Now if you want to go there I can give you a list of what horrible Catholics did to me. I mean I can go on and on, and on, and on, and on for a whole semester but I'm not here for that. I post to answer misconceptions you people have about JW BELIEFS not PERSONALITY traits And if you feel uncomfortable talking about the NWT let's discuss the King James Bible I have no problem discussing the scriptures.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#415379 Jan 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Where in scripture is the word "bible" or "bible only" mentioned! Please back up your Protestant (personal opinionated" "pot of (made up) propaganda" with scripture!!
~~~
You are a prime candidate for the antichrist ...
already you express disbelief in the word of God
Wrong again Confrinting, which is "nothing new" to any of us Catholics who know the TRUTH....You are partially correct in that "I (do) express disbelief-----but disbelief in your "continued bogus "distorting" of the "true meaning and interpretation" of the word of God, of which you have become "an expert at"!! The fact is that both you and I know that "nowhere in the Bible" is the word bible or bible only found (ANYWHERE)! In addition--"nowhere" in the bible does it say the the bible is the "only source of truth" that God chose to transmit His divine word..You distort the word of God just like you do everything else!!... Quoting a bunch of bible verses and "Making things up" regarding the true interpretation of what those verses actually mean, is what you do best!! You are not fooling anyone but yourself with your persistent "distorting,and mis-using of Gods Word, in order to "neatly fit" into your condescending anti-catholic aversion,hatred and hostility that has corrupted your heart, mind and soul. I know the Protestant "bible only" pyramid game of bible verses, very well, after being indoctrinated by it for over 35 years, before coming to the biblical and historical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church. I/WE as Catholics, continue to pray (each day) at Daily Mass for you Orville, 4GVN, Michael, jethro8, justachristian1, PAD, LTM and the rest of you Protestants, agnostics and atheists, that God will lead you out your anti-catholic condemnation and judgmental hatred and bring you to TRUE SALVATION in Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church--the bride of Christ

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#415380 Jan 13, 2013
Guest wrote:
<quoted text>True but he was made sin.
2 Corinthians 5:21
King James Version (KJV)
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Do you dny Christ dies and rose again quickened by the spirit and resurrected.
your last statement is not Biblical,
He was never resurrected by the spirit.

for it is written.

I have Power to lay my life down and I have Power to take it up again.He is God, he never had to be quickened by the spirit

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#415381 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
No,I don't remember that.
I will check into that though.
I laughed at that. he might be joking.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#415383 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Matthew 24 is for the Jewish people, the Born Again beleiver is already gone. and this Scripture proves it and it aint vague.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
now I aint as smart as you and the jw, so I got to try and figure this out.
first Jesus saves us and gives us salvation.
now people like you tell me that after we get saved, God kills us in the tribulation.
sumthin just dont add up 2 me.lol
wot about that scripture that tells us that we shall all be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of the eye(1/33,000 of a second), and what about around 25 years ago, scientists found in the human body a molecule that is able to be chamged in that same exact time, and they published it in their scientific journal,
I will believe what God says, rather than two idiots like you two, just saying.for it is written
"Matthew 24:4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, "Take heed that no man deceive you."NOTICE THAT JESUS IS TALKING TO JEWS, NOT THE CHURCH.
AND THIS FURTHER CONFIRMS IT.Matthew 24:9 "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations(SEE THAT) for my name's sake
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Revelation 6:11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.

Rev: 7

13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, Who are these who are arrayed in white robes? and from where did they come?

14And I said unto him, Sir, you know. And he said to me, These are they who came out of the great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sits on the throne shall dwell among them.

16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun strike them, nor any heat.

17For the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Daniel 11:35 Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.
truth

Perth, Australia

#415382 Jan 13, 2013
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#415384 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>what point are u trying to make HOJO?
the bible is a compliation of letters written by most of the Apostles to different churches, or their rendition and recollections of what occured during the lifetime of jesus, so why would be so mockful?
this is the Word of God and should be shown our utmost respect.
and if you or anyone else claims to be a Christian, then it should be a book that sets your lifestyle, and one that you follow it to a tee.
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God(that is sola scripture)
The point is that you Protestants are the ones claiming that "every word, every phrase, and every sentence MUST be in the bible in order for it to be true. WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS.,,,In addition, the other point is that, "please show us Catholics" (in the bible) book, chapter and verse, where God chose to transmit His divine authoritative Word--ONLY IN THE BIBLE!..This discussion "only" came up because Protestants (over and over and over again) make the claim that the word Catholic is not in the bible!!...And my point is "so what"! Not every word has to be in the bible in order for it to be true, regarding the word Catholic!!!
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#415385 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have an attitude,I just care,that's all.
Of course when you discuss your NWT with others that believe as you,your gonna agree.
You have an attitude towards the ones who do not believe as you.
That is why you are here.
You know that we believe in the diety of Christ.
You deny His diety.
How can you do that?
He died for our sins.
Would your friends die for you?
I have never called anyone a child of the devil,but I had a JW of call me one.
God as my witness,she called me that.
She told me I was like my father the devil.
Great witnessing huh?
Shge went by the name of Student.
She said she had not been baptized into the Org.
Jesus commanded the preaching work to get done. Do you go out and talk to people about him and his kingdom?

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#415386 Jan 13, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
That is easy to say, when you don't read that bible. jesus stated very clearly that all of god's laws are to be followed.
Do you follow them?
Of course not! You don't even try.
in following the advice of my lawyer, I refuse to say anything according to my rights under the 5th admendment

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#415387 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholics believe this... Catholics believe that.. Catholics worship this... Blah Blah.
How come you can't have a religion without falsely accusing us?
My friend emails me about anti catholic slander his pastor spreads about us every week. I asked him why his pastor is so fearful of Catholicism. How come his religion can't stand on its feet without slandering Catholicism every week?
I believe the answer is that his pastor knows the truth. He looked into scripture and saw the Catholic faith. But he has a career and a congregation now. He can't let that go. He is on the pulpit trying to convince himself Catholicism is wrong, he's not trying to convince his followers!
(although he obviously is mindful of his reputation as his people leave one by one for the CC. It would be pretty embarrassing for a career minister)
~~~

You are totally deceived ...

As Paul wrote in Romans the first Chapter...

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#415388 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholics believe this... Catholics believe that.. Catholics worship this... Blah Blah.
How come you can't have a religion without falsely accusing us?
My friend emails me about anti catholic slander his pastor spreads about us every week. I asked him why his pastor is so fearful of Catholicism. How come his religion can't stand on its feet without slandering Catholicism every week?
I believe the answer is that his pastor knows the truth. He looked into scripture and saw the Catholic faith. But he has a career and a congregation now. He can't let that go. He is on the pulpit trying to convince himself Catholicism is wrong, he's not trying to convince his followers!
(although he obviously is mindful of his reputation as his people leave one by one for the CC. It would be pretty embarrassing for a career minister)
If all the pastor does is talk bad about Catholics then he doesn't know the Bible and doesn't know what to teach.The Bible is a book of Jewels..never ending knowledge. A beautiful treasure hunt:oD
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#415389 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>your last statement is not Biblical,
He was never resurrected by the spirit.
for it is written.
I have Power to lay my life down and I have Power to take it up again.He is God, he never had to be quickened by the spirit
Romans 8

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

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#415390 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is that you Protestants are the ones claiming that "every word, every phrase, and every sentence MUST be in the bible in order for it to be true. WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS.,,,In addition, the other point is that, "please show us Catholics" (in the bible) book, chapter and verse, where God chose to transmit His divine authoritative Word--ONLY IN THE BIBLE!..This discussion "only" came up because Protestants (over and over and over again) make the claim that the word Catholic is not in the bible!!...And my point is "so what"! Not every word has to be in the bible in order for it to be true, regarding the word Catholic!!!
well, I do agree with your premise concerning the word catholic, tho it isnt in English, it is very closely associated in the original greek.

as far as "every word. every phrase" must be in the Bible, I would say this, if you or anyone use or follow words or phrases that are not biblical, then they are not Chrsitian. that stands to reason.

guest just said that Jesus was resurrected by the spirit now that isnt Biblical, so we should not accept it as being a Christian concept.

if you as a catholic are correct in what you say, I would agree and support it, if a person like guest or anyone else, says something that isnt Biblical, i would and do stand against it.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415391 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Who then, is the true Church?
Whatever group it is, has the protection of Jesus Christ on faith and moral teachings. He promised to be with them until the end of time. He promised a visible Church, not a hidden secret one, and the gates of Hell will not bring it down- and neither will a handful of screwed up Priests.
I found that Church and I ain't about to call Christ a liar. This is called real faith in Jesus, Jethro.
All other Christian groups were started by some guy or girl with a personal take on the New Testament books.
Not the Catholic Church. It was started by Jesus Christ. No? Then where did that Church go that Christ was talking about?
All of them.

Since: Jan 08

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#415392 Jan 13, 2013
The Watchtower Society begin by a man named Charles T. Russel. the founding father of the Jehovahís witnesses. He was raised in a protestant Church in Pennsylvania. This man did not like certain things in the Bible- like hell. He did not like Godís eternal judgment, or the teaching of the Trinity. He said the Trinity is not rational and that he could not understand it.

I could understand why he didnt like the word hell, and today, he likes the place even less.

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