Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

United States

#415214 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Yes Preston I did read this and agree with you.
Catholic's have made the bible all about them, but don't understand it or believe it is all about Jesus Christ.
How they could possibly make that scritpure about Mary I will never know. We can only hope the Holy Spirit will open their heart to understand what He is saying and teaching the church of Christ,
which isn't the catholic church.
I want to get back to you about Josephs 2 sons. When Jacob gave them His Blessing and past over his own sons, He said He was going to make a great nation out of one, USA. And one of many nations which became the British Commonwealth, which is many nation.
Is this where the lost tribes of Israel were scattered.
I think I am a little off here just want to clear it up in my mind.
Preston I think you are very gifted, I really do I am totally in agreement with your teachings.
If the Catholic Church is not the one started by Christ, then which one of you 42,000 are?

This is very very important LTM, because Jesus clearly started a Church that He promised to protect from the gates of Hell. Thus, the Apostles clearly started a Church and those they ordained wrote much about Bishops, Priests and Deacons and the Magistrium that was started by the Apostles.

So, where did this Church that Christ promised to be with til the end of the world, go?

please answer
4GVN

Scott City, MO

#415215 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I don't speak Spanish so I don't know what your link says.
Maybe you can answer this sense 4gvn won't..
Why does an image of Mary offend you?
Why does it make God Jealous?
Why did God command the Jews to make religious carvings of Angels?
Why, after billions of Catholics testify to that we don't worship statues, do you STILL accuse us of it?
The simple fact is that you do not understand what constitutes worship. You have no understanding of when your devotion crosses the line. And you most definately elevate Mary to a super human status far above any other human being.
Why do you chose to totally disregard the 2nd commandment and the prohibition of making images in the church.
If you insist that God didn't mean what He claearly said, then it is your obligation to tell us what you believe He did mean. Not to simply disregard the instructions.
The simple fact is that God did prohibit the use of icons and statues. The simple ONLY time we can not follow those instructions is when God himself gives other instructions as in the Old Testament. It you do not have other specific instructions from God himself, you are violating the instructions He has given. They aren't just suggestions, they are 'commandments'.
So you tell us what GOD 'DID MEAN' and why you refuse to follow His commandments.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415216 Jan 13, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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atemcowboy
Since this is part of apocolyptic writings, and is highly symbolic, and visionary, I think it would be hard to prove anything about this scripture, except anyone that follows the likes of the Hal Lindsey's interpretting our very finite views into this vast domain a vision(apocolyptic and prophetic)of scripture is very deceived, and in the end will be disillusioned from their view....
This being the case .
Perhaps it speaks more forcefully that it is Mary within the context of the whole Chapter. First because she is the Mother of Jesus as mentioned at the beginning of the Chapter.
Another aspect. Mary as the Mother of the Church. And also as she is our Mother, she is also our sister.
God in Je. a while fleeingnd since it ism prophecysus is our Father(if you have seen me, you have seen the Father), and Jesus is also our elder brother. Thus God is Father and brother. Mary can be our Mother(note she was at the beginning of the Church in Acts at Pentecost) and sister....
It would therefore be very difficult for you to seperate the Blessed Mary out of this verse....
looking at your latter statement, it isnt the least bit difficult for me to seperate mary out of this verse.

after the Day of pentecost, MARY IS NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN BY ANY WRITER. SO WHY SHOULD THIS BE AN EZCEPTION?

the Bible says this; no prophecy is of private interpretation: therefore it follows that neither you nor your church can claim this is referring to mary.and since this is prophecy, it stands to reason that mary and joseph had returned from Egypt many years ago, and since egypt is not ever Considered the Wilderness, your rational is very flawed. and since the woman flees into the wilderness, and the Bible is clear that the wilderness is close to the jordan river, and they never went there at any time, nor can you prove it.

and even tho, this is symbolic, it must agree with and harmonize with otehr part or parts of the Bible, and it does when you compare the dream of joseph and God tells us what that dream meant.

so I dont believe that I had a hard time proving what is actually meant.

I am not a false prophet like hal lindsay is. I dont bend the Bible to fit my thoughts and beleifs, as the rcc has done. my beliefs must agree with what thus saith the Lord or I am wrong.

"I feel obliged to say that this single verse could represent Eve, Mary, and the Church when it speaks of the woman"

be my guest but if you feel obliged to lie and be deceitful, what will it profit you.

first eve was dead, mary was dead, and the church(Born Again Believers) doesnt have to hide to stay alive. in fact. the Church will not be here during that time of Tribulation as every Christian knows.for it is written, God has not appointed us unto wrath. we , the church, will be safe and secure in a place that satan and this world can not harm us.

and If you robert get saved, you will not have to face this time either. and i can say that easily. if you were Saved, you wouldnt try and claim that this is mary.lol.

stop and think about it. If mary is the queen of heaven already, what in the world is she doing having to run from the devil.LOL

your words to me are foolish and unlearned, as much as you wish to be very knowlegable about His word.

AGAIN; IF SHE IS THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN, WHY IS SHE RUNNING FROM THE DEVIL.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415217 Jan 13, 2013
again, here is a word from that outdated KJV.

SOP.

and that is what I am getting ready to do with some bean soup and corn bread.

and you got to know how to do it. when it dribbles on your chin, you use your finger and take it off your chin and stick your finger in your mouth and lick it off, and if it drops down on your shirt(and it will) see above.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415218 Jan 13, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Does your church teach you how to survive armeggedon?
No, I am not worried about surviving Armeggedon because this world will be destroyed by fire....

We will NOT be coming back to live on this earth.....

And the saved will be living in heaven...

There WILL BE NO earthly reign...
Clay

United States

#415219 Jan 13, 2013
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>The simple fact is that you do not understand what constitutes worship. You have no understanding of when your devotion crosses the line. And you most definately elevate Mary to a super human status far above any other human being.
Why do you chose to totally disregard the 2nd commandment and the prohibition of making images in the church.
If you insist that God didn't mean what He claearly said, then it is your obligation to tell us what you believe He did mean. Not to simply disregard the instructions.
The simple fact is that God did prohibit the use of icons and statues. The simple ONLY time we can not follow those instructions is when God himself gives other instructions as in the Old Testament. It you do not have other specific instructions from God himself, you are violating the instructions He has given. They aren't just suggestions, they are 'commandments'.
So you tell us what GOD 'DID MEAN' and why you refuse to follow His commandments.
I don't understand what worship is?
ah that's it. Maybe I have been worshiping that marble image and didn't know it!! not!

God clearly meant creating statues and worshiping them. He clearly meant putting images in place of Him as a deity. That is what would make Him jealous.

God did not mean we couldn't use our artistic ability to create an image to further Glorify HIM.

Like I said, this was all already explained to you.
Your opinion is set.

Now YOU need to start explaining your logic.

Why does an image of Christ in Marys arms make God Jealous?

Why do you accuse Catholics of worshiping it, even though we testify how crazy that is?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415220 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Sadly, I encourage you to keep proclaiming that 'Catholics worship Mary'.
This ridiculous accusation is bringing people out of your cult and into Catholicism.
It brought myself away from your doorstep and back into the Church because I recognized the lie and thanks be to God, I knew to steer clear of you guys..
You bought into the deception Clay the lies, they are promising something but can't deliever.
Don't build your house on the sands, the Rock of your salvation is Jesus Christ not Mary.
Your have had the True Gospel of Jesus Christ preached to you many times on here you have no excuse.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415221 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
Cont---
This prophecy could not have been fulfilled until after the rise of Britain and the United States as world powers in the 19th century and the formation of the Jewish state of Israel in the 20th.
Lest the idea seem outlandish, consider that Israel and the United States are perhaps the most maligned and criticized nations on earth. Among Muslim hard-liners, America is commonly called "the great Satan" and Israel and Britain "the little Satans."
I read this about 35 years ag. herbert armstrong had a book out called "america in prophecy".

but I disagree with this premise and ALL jews would disagree too. I spoke about my friend Atta, she is jewsih and comes from Russia. my friend Ed's family is also from Russia and he had had a DNA that shows that he is from the tribe of Levi. if that link was true(and most of it is), Ed would not have that DNA from one of those Lost tribes.

I agree that there are many jews in America(almost as many if not more than is in Israel), but they know they are Jewish.

in Israel, is a very noted person by the name of Fruend. now that name is a spelling of the english name of Friend, which is my family tree, and I am not Jewish, nor were my family members.

lastly, when it is time, the Bible says that God will go to the four corners and bring His Children home, the church is not in the gathering since we have already been gathered, therefore it can not be people living in England and America
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415222 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
again, here is a word from that outdated KJV.
SOP.
and that is what I am getting ready to do with some bean soup and corn bread.
and you got to know how to do it. when it dribbles on your chin, you use your finger and take it off your chin and stick your finger in your mouth and lick it off, and if it drops down on your shirt(and it will) see above.
I know you lick it off.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#415223 Jan 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Yes, Jethro, I had a choice about being baptized....
I was so sorry about my sins in my life that I cried....I knew that I had to make it right with God....
Yes, Jethro, I am very happy about my life time commitment to God.....
Three WONDERFUL things happened in my life....
#1 - being baptized into the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.....
#2 - marrying my WONDERFUL wife....
#3 - watching our three children being born and raising them to be GREAT citizens and WONDERFUL Christian men and woman....
ok you say christian men and women,so your not catholic??

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415224 Jan 13, 2013
disciple wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to post the contradiction to prove your point.
But this is the route you took, I merely asked you to tell us the role of your church in tribulation time and you decided to skid all the way to your point of the ever increasing number of denominations.
Post the question to cowboy and I'll prove to you that the interpretation we have is the same.
If HOJO asked me, I would be obligated to tell him the truth, and at that time, he might reconsider and add me to that list of people on here that he doesnt like.lol
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415225 Jan 13, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> The trinity is not found in the Bible. The word trinity is not even in the Bible. Do you what the theme of the Bible is?
And neither is JW in the bible....

2 Corinthians 13:14

14 May the [[[grace of the Lord Jesus Christ,]]] and the [[[love of God,]]] and the [[[fellowship of the Holy Spirit]]] be with you all.

Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.....

Love of God.....

Fellowship of the Holy Spirit.....

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415226 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
I know you lick it off.
Yep, and I just did.lol.

you cant sop bean soup without getting it on your chin
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#415227 Jan 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
And neither is JW in the bible....
2 Corinthians 13:14
14 May the [[[grace of the Lord Jesus Christ,]]] and the [[[love of God,]]] and the [[[fellowship of the Holy Spirit]]] be with you all.
Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.....
Love of God.....
Fellowship of the Holy Spirit.....
Have you checked out the King James Bible it restored Jehovah's name almost 7000 times. We all know satan wants God's named blocked but its not going to happend. You will hear about his name whether it makes you cringe or not.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415228 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
If the Catholic Church is not the one started by Christ, then which one of you 42,000 are?
This is very very important LTM, because Jesus clearly started a Church that He promised to protect from the gates of Hell. Thus, the Apostles clearly started a Church and those they ordained wrote much about Bishops, Priests and Deacons and the Magistrium that was started by the Apostles.
So, where did this Church that Christ promised to be with til the end of the world, go?
please answer
NONE : of the 42,000 earthy church are the true church of Christ.
that said I believe a realm of God's true church sits in every denomination .
You don't get it Clay , God's church is a denomination, or is it swayed by every doctrine, it is taught and lead by the Holy Spirit.
God reigns from Heaven on earth.
He sees all and knows all.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#415229 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
No answers LOL
I think she is upset because i do not care for her religion,and being an honest person,i had to say/speak the truth on how i feel about jehovahs,nothing personal against her,like i said she is probably a great person,but i don't agree with her religious beliefs,espeacially when people are allowed to die needlessly in a belief that can not be 100% proven it is true.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#415230 Jan 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
And neither is JW in the bible....
2 Corinthians 13:14
14 May the [[[grace of the Lord Jesus Christ,]]] and the [[[love of God,]]] and the [[[fellowship of the Holy Spirit]]] be with you all.
Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.....
Love of God.....
Fellowship of the Holy Spirit.....
When you get some extra $$ invest in a Bible that hasn't beem tampered with by satan. One with the original writtings of the scrolls.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#415231 Jan 13, 2013
anyone watch the seahawks-falcons game?? it was a great one,falcons were very lucky to walk away with a win.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#415232 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>jethro, what clay saidd to you was true.
avie was speaking about me and to me. she seems to think that because I call her church a satanic cult, that is being nasty.
I call it the truth.
she doesnt like it because I speak anout my no good nephew who wont even visit him mom nor help to take care of her. and her other son died last year of Liver problems, so except for cathie, she has no one else to help her.
and the Bible speaks very clearly about not helping and taking care of widows and orphans
then in that case if you call someone elses religion names,then you should not get upset when someone trash talks your beliefs,if what you say is what you call "the truth".
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415233 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
NONE : of the 42,000 earthy church are the true church of Christ.
that said I believe a realm of God's true church sits in every denomination .
You don't get it Clay , God's church is a denomination, or is it swayed by every doctrine, it is taught and lead by the Holy Spirit.
God reigns from Heaven on earth.
He sees all and knows all.
Sorry retractions I said [God's church is a denomination]

I meant to say isn't a denomination.

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