Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 586638 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Perth, Australia

#415131 Jan 12, 2013
Possessors as well deceivers is not Creator.
Your Sun system is old much more far away then your church or any church exist..Are you sure I am liar?
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#415132 Jan 12, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
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Same here, Aviela :)
You know;oD
truth

Perth, Australia

#415133 Jan 12, 2013
Jesus Christ say..don't be liar..do you liked liars in own house..no..do you recognize attackers evil spirits..
what Jesus say..they will attacking you..they also do to me..but you will endure.
Jesus say..pray..as well god always listen prayers.

When i say your justice is not mine..i don't be very lucky about that..i don't fill shame wrote about this..but what i say to you..
builder reject most precious stone,,do you liked your foundation from your house cracking everywhere no..if not please say to me then where is justice..i say to you..you reject righteousness people many times in all aspect where every door close for them..

but i say to you ones more your justice is not mine..

wicket can't have holy ticket..
disciple

Temecula, CA

#415134 Jan 12, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Again---why don't you ask your other 42,000+ Protestant, inconsistent, contradiction and conflicting denominations. Each one will give their own distorted "personal opinionated hodge-podge" of (mis-interpretation) and "spin" of each bible verse.
Well, that is why I'm asking you. Why would I want an inconsistent, conflicting contradiction from so many denominations when I can go to you that has a total of 8 years of Bible experience.
Come on lay it on me.
Afraid to be in the 41,000+ pile?
disciple

Temecula, CA

#415135 Jan 12, 2013
Clay wrote:
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lol. Thats because you're using sola scripture to debunk their sola scripture.
They can't say Jack squat about your interpretations, because you have every bit of a 'right' as them to interpret the Bible how you see it, under the false doctrine of private interpretation and scripture alone.
I can say that you and Aviela are wrong. You and Aviela will tell me that I'm wrong.
So If we are all wrong according to each other, then the only document still standing is the Bible, and none of us can refute it. Not you not Aviela not anyone.
The Bible has and always will be the absolute truth above your interpretation and mine.
Go Sola Scripture.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415136 Jan 12, 2013
disciple wrote:
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I can say that you and Aviela are wrong. You and Aviela will tell me that I'm wrong.
So If we are all wrong according to each other, then the only document still standing is the Bible, and none of us can refute it. Not you not Aviela not anyone.
The Bible has and always will be the absolute truth above your interpretation and mine.
Go Sola Scripture.
the catholcis on here say that no one is an authority on Scriptures yet they can tell us we are wrong.LOL
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#415137 Jan 12, 2013
disciple wrote:
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I can say that you and Aviela are wrong. You and Aviela will tell me that I'm wrong.
So If we are all wrong according to each other, then the only document still standing is the Bible, and none of us can refute it. Not you not Aviela not anyone.
The Bible has and always will be the absolute truth above your interpretation and mine.
Go Sola Scripture.
now how did I get in this conversation?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415138 Jan 12, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I am having problems with my eyes also. I am using 150% instead of tje 100% that I used to use.
in November, I had my eyes checked and the doctor said that i am starting to get cataracts. I know that it seems like I was seeing a cloud in the house.
Yeah I have it at 150 also Preston, I just got new glasses I have a start of a cataract not much of a one, old age lol.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415139 Jan 12, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>the catholcis on here say that no one is an authority on Scriptures yet they can tell us we are wrong.LOL
I thought they said it was the Pope who had the authority.
Preston

Waverly, OH

#415140 Jan 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Yeah I have it at 150 also Preston, I just got new glasses I have a start of a cataract not much of a one, old age lol.
ok, since we are on the same page. did you read my reply to clay proving that mary is not what John was discribing.

I went to bed but couldnt sleep so i am up too.
Preston

Waverly, OH

#415141 Jan 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
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I thought they said it was the Pope who had the authority.
that only counts when it comes from thier side of teh aisle.

when we tell them what the bible says, we are not allowed to do that without the popes approval.

and not only did jesus go into the wilderness but that was where John Baptised from.

and neither place was where mary and Joseph went. the Bible is clear that they went down into Egypt so that the prophecy might be fulfilled.

out of Egypt, have I called my son.

if I got to lie to prove a point, what is the Point?
truth

Perth, Australia

#415142 Jan 12, 2013
Is that true indigenous people created heaven and earth..no no as politician say..yes they have rights on life but they are not Created Earth and Heaven..politicians will tell you that in order challenge what?

What John say
rev 6;9
john 18 read
truth

Perth, Australia

#415143 Jan 12, 2013
Someone say all mothers Mary are within one..please tell me which one is real?!

I told you long time ago is evil in matrix..as well possessors and deceivers are not Creator.
guest

United States

#415144 Jan 12, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
I disagree with your assumption that the "trinity" is not found in the Bible. of course it is.
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
In this verse alone, we find the "trinity" as has been stated a zillion times for those who wish to exploit our doctrine about one little word.
here we see that John talking about God sending him, and God told him that he would see the Holy Ghost fall on the Messiah and Jesus himself being Baptised and to further prove the Trinty is a true doctrine and FACT.John "hears" the voice of God speak highly of His Son.contrary to what the cult of jws think, teach and beleive.
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Aviela wrote:
You know what the problem is. You are stuck in the old english transalation. Non understands that talk. King Henry the 8th days are over. You need a New translation Bible with its original writtings from the hebrew and greek scrolls.
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*Shakespeareian* language is pretty much dead and buried.*Except* in Shakespeare's surviving plays and writings. The Most Famous Bard, William Shakespeare, was quite prolific; but unless one is well versed in the language of 1611, it is almost impossible to understand the nuances of British English, circa 1611, today in 2013.
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In the immediate years preceding 1611, King James commissioned the translation of "The Holy Bible" into the Contemporary English, or the modern language of his day. To our dismay, in 2013, The King James Version is quite antiquated and unfortunately for us, "unintelligible." It's 400 years old, folks! So, naturally, four hundred years later, we are at quite a disadvantage in reading the Language of Old since language is dynamic and it evolves and changes over time. We know that.

To prove a point: Who would have known what a *computer* was in 1611? Hence new words are always entering the lexicon and so it stands to reason we would need to have "New Translations" of the Bible.

Similarly, old words are phased out and die off as new words enter the vernacular. Shouldn't the old and antiquated languages of the ancient Biblical translations be updated for our day?

Who knows what "sod pottage" means?

The King James states:

And Jacob **sod pottage**: and Esau came from the field, and he was **faint**:

But the New World Translation states:
Once when Jacob was **cooking some stew**, Esau came in from the open country,**famished**.

Here are the parallel translations:
http://bible.cc/genesis/25-29.htm

Much easier to understand in today's modern English, isn't it?

Who would realize that we would actually need contemporary translations of the Bible? None other than those who are living in contemporary times and making themselves busy presenting the Word of God to others. Contrast that with those who would love the Word of God to be buried in obscurity (purely for political reasons and for reasons of dishonest gain).

And, NO!.. atemcowboy, the "Trinity" is NOT found in the Bible. It is definitely NOT a concept found in the Hebrew Scriptures and Jesus *absolutely* did not introduce it as new theology. At http://www.bibletoday.com/htstb/spurious.htm you can find spurious verses .. including 1 John 5:7 - which alludes to the "Trinity". In other words; those verses were later added to the NT.

Quite frankly, ONLY Jesus Christ himself would have the authority to introduce "New Theology". No-one else has authority to speak for God but Jesus Christ himself (especially not the Pope). And now that Jesus is Dead and Resurrected to Sit at the Right Hand of God, only the words he left us are to be considered as coming from his mouth and *therefore* from the mind of Almighty God.

And ... Jesus explicitly left us these words: "Call No Man Your Father."

CAN ANYONE COMPREHEND THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE WORDS??

Your life depends upon it!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415145 Jan 12, 2013
guest wrote:
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*Shakespeareian* language is pretty much dead and buried.*Except* in Shakespeare's surviving plays and writings. The Most Famous Bard, William Shakespeare, was quite prolific; but unless one is well versed in the language of 1611, it is almost impossible to understand the nuances of British English, circa 1611, today in 2013.
-
In the immediate years preceding 1611, King James commissioned the translation of "The Holy Bible" into the Contemporary English, or the modern language of his day. To our dismay, in 2013, The King James Version is quite antiquated and unfortunately for us, "unintelligible." It's 400 years old, folks! So, naturally, four hundred years later, we are at quite a disadvantage in reading the Language of Old since language is dynamic and it evolves and changes over time. We know that.
To prove a point: Who would have known what a *computer* was in 1611? Hence new words are always entering the lexicon and so it stands to reason we would need to have "New Translations" of the Bible.
Similarly, old words are phased out and die off as new words enter the vernacular. Shouldn't the old and antiquated languages of the ancient Biblical translations be updated for our day?
Who knows what "sod pottage" means?
The King James states:
And Jacob **sod pottage**: and Esau came from the field, and he was **faint**:
But the New World Translation states:
Once when Jacob was **cooking some stew**, Esau came in from the open country,**famished**.
Here are the parallel translations:
http://bible.cc/genesis/25-29.htm
Much easier to understand in today's modern English, isn't it?
Who would realize that we would actually need contemporary translations of the Bible? None other than those who are living in contemporary times and making themselves busy presenting the Word of God to others. Contrast that with those who would love the Word of God to be buried in obscurity (purely for political reasons and for reasons of dishonest gain).
And, NO!.. atemcowboy, the "Trinity" is NOT found in the Bible. It is definitely NOT a concept found in the Hebrew Scriptures and Jesus *absolutely* did not introduce it as new theology. At http://www.bibletoday.com/htstb/spurious.htm you can find spurious verses .. including 1 John 5:7 - which alludes to the "Trinity". In other words; those verses were later added to the NT.
Quite frankly, ONLY Jesus Christ himself would have the authority to introduce "New Theology". No-one else has authority to speak for God but Jesus Christ himself (especially not the Pope). And now that Jesus is Dead and Resurrected to Sit at the Right Hand of God, only the words he left us are to be considered as coming from his mouth and *therefore* from the mind of Almighty God.
And ... Jesus explicitly left us these words: "Call No Man Your Father."
CAN ANYONE COMPREHEND THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE WORDS??
Your life depends upon it!
Who knows what "sod pottage" means?

The King James states:

And Jacob **sod pottage**: and Esau came from the field, and he was **faint**:

goat stew, and weak.

just because you dont understand what is said, doesnt mean that others cant. didnt you ever take english lit in High school?

as for me, I dont understand any of the new translations. they make no sense at all.the KJV is the best transliteration of Koine greek and Hebrew, bar none.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415146 Jan 12, 2013
even using this nick of guest, the stench still comes over the screen, sda guy.lol

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#415147 Jan 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
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lETS SEE ALL OF YOUR EARLY LEADERS HAVE MADE WRONG DOOSDAY PREDICTIONS ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER ONE AVIELA.
SURVIVE ARMEGGEDON , NOW WHERE DID I HEAR THAT BEFORE OH YES MORMONS BELIEVE THAT.
I MET A FORMER J W PASTOR IN MY YOUNGER DAYS HE TOLD ME MAY THINGS ABOUT YOUR CHURCH, AND WHY HE LEFT.
THE BIBLE DIDN'T GO ALONG WITH WHAT THE JW TAUGHT. I believe JW is a spin off of the catholic church , is it not.
I will have to check that out for myself.
Have you ever looked at the Dogma of all the christian churches and wondered why the vary at all?

If it takes the holy spirit to understand the bible and what god wants, why are their so many varying beliefs?

Simple, you believe what you have been taught to believe or you are a non-conformist and believe contrary to your parents. You don't think for yourself; you believe what your are taught.

You know why I don't yell {Type in all caps}? Because I know where the information is and I know that you will not look; no matter how much I yell, scream, stomp my feet, or play on your feelings, you are not going to open your mind.

If you said that jesus was going to preform a miracle tomorrow and that miracle was going to be... I would watch for that miracle and if it happened, I would be open to changing my mind. But so far, the only miracle that "christians" are willing to commit to, is that the sun will raise. No shyt! Try something a little more specific and a little more unique.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#415148 Jan 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Hi Herme, How are you doing??
I still have times where I really miss my Mother-in-law, and my friend Nancy. They both died with in a short time of each other.
My brother died last fall, I miss them all very much.
Its funny after Nancy past all the people from our Bible study group just fanned out I don't hear from them any more.
I miss her a lot.
LTM I am doing better. Its a slow recovery process but I am overjoyed that the fluid has not returned to my lungs and I have stayed out of the hopsital. I hope you are well.When you really have someone in your heart,the grief never really completely leaves. But it gets easier to cope with. Certainly Christ and His promise heals and comforts. Stay well. Luv ya.
guest

United States

#415149 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Who knows what "sod pottage" means?
The King James states:
And Jacob **sod pottage**: and Esau came from the field, and he was **faint**:
goat stew, and weak.
just because you dont understand what is said, doesnt mean that others cant. didnt you ever take english lit in High school?
as for me, I dont understand any of the new translations. they make no sense at all.the KJV is the best transliteration of Koine greek and Hebrew, bar none.
LOL

Ya THINK?

OH! Obviously you did NOT "read" what I 'wrote'!

I was enumerating on the fact that "we" - in 2013 - do not *quite* comprehend OLDE English.

If you do not understand the "new" translations, then you are sorely lacking, as they are in the vernacular.

The "Vernacular" is: "Today's Modern English."

lol ... You need to "Google" more often, atemcowboy! And learn to speak in the modern language you find yourself a contemporary of! LOL

And, please, for your own good - and for the edification of those you address - stop throwing down the term "Koine Greek" as if you are fluent, for I doubt that you are! Evangelicals tend to *habitually* throw down the words "Koine Greek" as a conversation stopper. They seem to think it makes a difference in how one is to interpret the Bible. NOTHING could be further from the truth.

This is 2013. We've ALL "been there and done that" - and Koine Greek is just as - if not more than - outdated as is 1611 OLDE English.(Get a clue.)

Time to upgrade your *software* don't ya think, atemcowboy?
guest

United States

#415150 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
even using this nick of guest, the stench still comes over the screen, sda guy.lol
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SDA? lol

you've not a clue!

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