Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[jethro8]

hojo wrote:

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Thanks Dan! "Denial of Truth" are the three words have (conveniently) "escaped" the Protestant vocabulary of their 42,000+ contradicting (hodge-podge) of inconsistent denominations!!

"Denial of Truth" perfect fit for the catholic church as well,you have a criminal for a pope,a vatican council that seems to think lying is not a sin, yet you apply "Denial of Truth" to everyone but the devils playground (the c.c.)

[MICHAEL]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>I guess that you aint caught on yet.
I dont like your church, nor you either if you are in it and you are. is that plain enough for you?
people like you and my nephew that serve the devil, are not on my most popular individuals to invite for a cookout.
I would split a pepsi with anthony much quicker than I would with my own nephew.

PRESTON says......I would split a pepsi with anthony much quicker than I would with my own nephew.

MICHAEL says...

How sad, you determine friendships based solely on ones religious belief. How shallow is that?

.... I will bet when the bullits were flying in Nam' all the allies were YOUR FRIENDS regardless of religious affiliation.

How cheap are you? You wouldn't give Anthony his own pepsi?

UNBELIEVABLE!

[MICHAEL]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>HistoryUnlike Peter and other apostles in the early Christian church, who devotedhoped that his refusal to accept financial support would build general, Nehemiah was cupbearer to the King, Esther was a great ruler of her people, and Luke was a physician. Even Jesus himself worked as a carpenter (see Mark 6:3).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentmaking

edited for space.

You do know Preston that long before the catholic fathers who many were ex-pagans they too worshipped a TRINITY of their gods.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/760...

Preston....

....It is a well confirmed historical fact! that beginning in about 130 A.D. many of the Catholic Church Fathers- the Apologists- were converts from paganism and trained pagan philosophers. These included Justin Martyr (ca. 100-165), Tatian (ca. 200) and Theophilus of Antioch (ca. 160-200). Indeed their knowledge of the Old Testament came through their readings of the philosopher Philo. Tertullian explicitly employed written works of pagan philosophers in support of his Christian philosophy (De Test. Animae I). Such fathers as Justin Martyr (Apol. I, 4, 5, 7, 20) and Athenagoras (ca. 177)(Supplic. 5, 6), in order to defend Christianity, stated that they were following some of the practices advocated by the best of the pagan philosophers. Clement of Alexandria (ca. 150-215) actually undertook to create a new Christian philosophy he termed the 'true philosophy'[Trinitarianism](St rom. II, 11)" (Robert A. Hermann, "Oneness, The Trinity, And Logic".

Catholicism created the trinity from the pagan philosophy.

Sorry!

You didn't know this and you are a preacher? OMG!

[Free MInd]

MICHAEL wrote:

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PRESTON says......I would split a pepsi with anthony much quicker than I would with my own nephew.
MICHAEL says...
How sad, you determine friendships based solely on ones religious belief. How shallow is that?
.... I will bet when the bullits were flying in Nam' all the allies were YOUR FRIENDS regardless of religious affiliation.
How cheap are you? You wouldn't give Anthony his own pepsi?
UNBELIEVABLE!

Agent Orange maybe.

[MICHAEL]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>WHO CARES?
THE MAIN THING IS THAT i WOULDNT SET DOWN And SHARE ANYTHING WITH THE DEVIL AND YOU.LOL

Preston.......check this out below? Look closely, see any comparisons?

Read the story in the website. It will enlighten you.

http://pocm.info/

Has christianity ever created any customs/traditions on their own that hadn't been customs/traditons of others that came 1,000 years before?

....something is terribly wrong!

[Free MInd]

jethro8 wrote:

<quoted text>religion is called faith because there is no absolute truth/proof a god exists all we have is a single set of scriptures that resemble stories of decades earlier than the creation of christianity,being a cancer patient i can tell you with all honesty that i rely very heavily on modern technology to keep me alive and so far it has worked,i'm still here two years longer than i should be thanks to a new medication called xeloda,it is a chemo drug in pill form,that is why i'm still here,i follow doctors orders to the letter i eat right, my job supplies the exercise i need along with my little dog that drags me around all over the neighborhood when i walk her,i give her credit also for my being here because no matter how bad i feel she allways knows how to get to me and put a smile on my face,everyone should own a dog,we just might achieve world peace that way,obviously we don't know how to achieve it on our own,when in doubt "kill" seems to be mans solution to their problems,we spend more money on how to kill people than we do on how to save them,that's rediculous,if man concentrated on saving our world instead of destroying it we would have an actual garden of eden and not a mythical one. religion is blind faith,and allways will be unless an actual god appears before us while we are alive not dead.

Good post.

Like you, and in fact, like the most religious here, I rely on modern medical science when the chips are down.

If any religion is "peaceful," I haven't seen it. Buddhism maybe, but the Abraham regions are certain not "peace."

Best wishes,

[Free MInd]

A few Priests here and a few Priests there are NOT the issue.

Catholics-in-denial wish it were.

It's the WORLDWIDE, DECADES LONG, INSTITUTIONAL COVER-UP that is the issue.

Jesus would not stand for such a thing from his "only true" church.

Jesus has self-respect.

[MICHAEL]

Free MInd wrote:

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Agent Orange maybe.

...ya! but just half!

Anthony goes to Prestons house. Preston says, Anthony would you like to split a pepsi with me? Anthony says, what? I can't have my own....who splits a small bottle of soda? How cheap are you?

Preston and Regina M. claim that their web brousers won't allow them to give negative judgies, but how coinicidental is it that whenever I post about them, I get negative judgies when everyone one else says "good post Michael"

...they are not truthful, yet boast about their righteousness.

I am sure he knows how to mix agent orange. Those war guys know all the secrets.

[hojo]

MICHAEL wrote:

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edited for space.
You do know Preston that long before the catholic fathers who many were ex-pagans they too worshipped a TRINITY of their gods.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/760...
Preston....
....It is a well confirmed historical fact! that beginning in about 130 A.D. many of the Catholic Church Fathers- the Apologists- were converts from paganism and trained pagan philosophers. These included Justin Martyr (ca. 100-165), Tatian (ca. 200) and Theophilus of Antioch (ca. 160-200). Indeed their knowledge of the Old Testament came through their readings of the philosopher Philo. Tertullian explicitly employed written works of pagan philosophers in support of his Christian philosophy (De Test. Animae I). Such fathers as Justin Martyr (Apol. I, 4, 5, 7, 20) and Athenagoras (ca. 177)(Supplic. 5, 6), in order to defend Christianity, stated that they were following some of the practices advocated by the best of the pagan philosophers. Clement of Alexandria (ca. 150-215) actually undertook to create a new Christian philosophy he termed the 'true philosophy'[Trinitarianism](St rom. II, 11)" (Robert A. Hermann, "Oneness, The Trinity, And Logic".
Catholicism created the trinity from the pagan philosophy.
Sorry!
You didn't know this and you are a preacher? OMG!

Yes--"well confirmed" by the National Inquirer--which "parallels everything that you post on this forum.!!
DOUBLE BUSTED AND UNBELIEVABLE!!

[MICHAEL]

Free MInd wrote:

A few Priests here and a few Priests there are NOT the issue.
Catholics-in-denial wish it were.
It's the WORLDWIDE, DECADES LONG, INSTITUTIONAL COVER-UP that is the issue.
Jesus would not stand for such a thing from his "only true" church.
Jesus has self-respect.

I am surprised Jesus with the help of the holy spirit, secretly, haven't gone around to all the catholic churches and removed any likeness of Jesus statues from churches that have been involved in sex abuse coverups?

[Free MInd]

Imagine this....

An employee at a foreign embassy gets away with raping a child at a School for the Deaf -- because the employee is able to use the cover of diplomatic immunity.

Catholics would be outraged.

Unless it's their own church that provides the diplomatic immunity.

Catholics then rationalize -- "individual sinner, not the church."

Hello? Jesus' hand-picked teacher of "perfect" morality?

Sorry. More rationalization is required.

[MICHAEL]

hojo wrote:

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Yes--"well confirmed" by the National Inquirer--which "parallels everything that you post on this forum.!!
DOUBLE BUSTED AND UNBELIEVABLE!!

HOJO.......The Encyclopedia Britannica, Micropedia Volume 11, page 928, gives us the following facts about the trinity.

......TRINITY, in Christian doctrine, the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead.

...... Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, or the Old Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament:

"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord" (Deuteronomy 6:4). The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.

.....Did you know HOJO that the Apostles creed was not formed or created by the apostles? It was invented by the RCC.

.....something is terribly wrong HOJO!

[ReginaM]

Aviela wrote:

<quoted text> You say you were a pastor? Say ain't so? And this is how you talk to people? This is the perfect example why I won't go to your church. If this is the way pastors talk to folks I'd rather sit next to an alligator.

What church do you think Preston is in?

[MICHAEL]

Wait a minute!! Who is copying who?

http://pocm.info/

[Free MInd]

MICHAEL wrote:

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I am surprised Jesus with the help of the holy spirit, secretly, haven't gone around to all the catholic churches and removed any likeness of Jesus statues from churches that have been involved in sex abuse coverups?

lol Jesus can't be happy.

Imagine, "Holy diplomatic immunity" being used to avoid accountability in the abuse of children at orphanages!

Catholics must hate those poor orphans for making waves.

Oh well, "just a few sinners here and there" -- protected by an institution with the power of diplomatic immunity.

But the Church didn't abuse any orphans.

The church is still perfect, right?

[hojo]

jethro8 wrote:

<quoted text>you are stating a falsehood here,nowhere in the book of mathew do you find the word catholic or universal,all that is stated is "MY CHURCH",that is not proof jesus is talking about a particular church,that is a man made conclussion. if it were the true church it would not have had to use the brutality that it did to get people to believe and follow it's false traditions,which have been handed down from generation to generation,most catholics are catholic because their ancestors were,they were raised to be catholic,they did not choose it,they were told what to believe,i see it all the time when i go to my brothers house or deal with my g/f's family and from talking to people i meet,the younger generations are not finding the truth on their own they are being told what it is and it's WRONG! people should be left alone to make their own choices not have a religion forced upon them,that is why you had 1.168 billion catholics at one time,but thanks to their own stupidity,they'll be none.

For the (unteenth time)The word "Catholic" doesn't have to be in the bible to know that Jesus Christ (one and only) Church was Universal (Catholic) at that time. Church History proves over and over and over again that it was Jesus'(One-Universal-Catholic) Apostolic Church. The are not just "cradle Catholics" that make up the 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world, but now in the 21st century Protestants and bible only believers are "converting in great numbers" to the One True Apostolic Catholic Church of Jesus Christ---(rejecting liberalism, secular humanism, political correctness and a "degradation" of immoral" and (false bible teachings that are polluting the Protestant Churches, with abortion, gay marriage, euthenasia, embroyonic stem cell research, etc. Since you jethro8, continue to remain on the "outside of the TRUTH" always looking in, it is only YOU that has the ability to deal with your (on-going) hate, hostility, vengeance and animosity against the PROVEN biblical and historical TRUTH of Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church

[hojo]

preston wrote:

LOL, LOOKS LIKE I RAN THE CATHOLICS OFF.
sorry.

Not at all!! There is (really) nothing (at all) to "discuss, nothing to debate, and nothing to argue over" The TRUTH of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ, has,(for over 2000 years), is and will (CONTINUE) to remain and be in Jesus Christ and His (historically and biblically) PROVEN, AUTHENTICATED AND VERIFIED One True Apostolic Catholic Church--(the Bride of Christ) in which the TRUE GOSPEL is (proclaimed each day at daily Mass) as the FULLNESS of the faith AND the FULLNESS of the Truth!!

[jethro8]

Aviela wrote:

deep post

every catholic will disagree with what i posted,but can not disprove it as being false,why? because what i posted is true, and truth seems to be unexceptable to catholics.

[marge]

Truth wrote:

Jesus used THREE DANGEROUS WORDS to DEFEAT the Devil!!!
What were these THREE DANGEROUS WORDS???

IT IS WRITTEN!

[jethro8]

Sherlayne wrote:

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Jethro8 - You warm my heart. I'm so glad this new med is helping you and I pray for you often. You're one of the kindest people here. And I can fully identify with how your beloved little dog can help you. My husband and I are like that; we'd always had dogs but now that we're older we have 2 "fixed" cats - a lot less work than dogs.
I think your philosophy is outstanding. Plus you're smart. And yes - until or unless an actual god appears here, religion is indeed no more than blind faith.
I hope you have a good day. HUG!

thank you for your kind thoughts,and what i post is not what i would call philosophy,it's just the truth,i am not confused by following any particular religious group,that's where confussion comes in to play,i have a clear open mind to the theory of a one god system,people who belong to a certain group follow what they preach and do not research the subject themselves,the catholic church does not encourage people to read the bible for this very reason,i know former catholics who have left the church for that very reason,you bring a bible into a catholic church and you would be told to put it back outside in your car,there is no need to have one,we will teach (brainwash)you what you need to know about gods word. they leave out the part that their traditions are not in the bible but were created by constantines little group of learned men who created the catholic church,it is no more holier than my bathroom,yes i have a great distain for the church and any group who would cover up such abuses as they did,not just the child abuse but the torturing and murdering of innocent people who refused to believe in their corrupt money making schemes.they launder money for the mafia then dare call themselves holy people,who's kidding who,and they can deny it until the end of time but the pure fact is that pope benny is pope only for the sole reason to keep him out of the clutches of the courts so we can NOT learn the truth about how bad the child abuse really is.they claim peter is the first pope then maybe jesus was right when he said "mathew 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men."