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Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#414664 Jan 11, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>robert , spend some time studying this cult before you judge me.
DO JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES SHUN FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LEAVE?— Does the Bible Support the Jehovah’s Witness practice of shunning?
A common trait among cults and destructive religious groups is the practice of “shunning” members who leave (disassociate) or get expelled (disfellowshipped or excommunicated) for wrongdoing. While these groups often assert that the practice of shunning (prohibiting all unnecessary communication with ex-members) is a “loving” form of spiritual punishment, many question the validity of this claim. The Jehovah’s Witnesses have a long history of shunning family members and friends who leave their religion and the carnage this has practice has left behind in the lives of many broken families is irreconcilable as the following statement from an ex-Jehovah’s Witness testifies.
http://4witness.org/jehovahs_witness/jw-shunn...
some time ago, a coworker(a jw) gave me a rough time over my brother(who was a county commiss) and he said that my brother used his influence to keep this jw from seeing his children(even tho ALL OF THEM WERE ADULTS,LOL). AND HE SPOKE PRETTY BAD ABOUT MY BROTHER, AND I AGREED WITH IT, AS I TOLD HIM THAT MY BROTEHR HAD HIS MARRIAGE BROKEN UP BY ANOTHER MAN AND HE SHOULDNT HAVE DONE THAT TO THAT GUY.
NOW THAT TRAMP THAT HE MARRIED GOT HIM INTO THE JW"S AND STEINER AND HIM BECAME VERY GOOD FRIENDS.AND AS FOR MY BROTHER, i JUST LAUGHED AT HIM BECAUSE i KNEW HOW STEINER TALKED ABOUT HIM FOR SO LONG.
And I treat my brother the same way that I would treat any other follower of the devil, he isnt allowed to darken my door, nor would I invite him inside, just as I wouildnt invite satan to come in, there is no difference
Figures, you're straight out posting apostate stuff from EX WITNESSES. Those are the ones who scream, hoot, curse, yell at us and picket outside our conventions. No I know you're really posting lies.
fred

Piedmont, OK

#414665 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> The scriptures talk about meeting together to encourage incite and love one another. It talks about elders directing the flock, etc how are we to do that if we serve God solo running our own program?
Hard question to answer because all churches are a mixture of righteousness and evil.and no one is on the same page I know elders And I am One but we do not worship a man made god we worship Yahweh who is not a god and people can look over my post all they want but it will not change the fact that mortal man changed his name and made him A god.

In case you did not know...the words lord god baal was added to his name because the divine reverence of his name was believed to be to holy to be spoken so man changed his name and made him a god the very thing he warns you not to worship god and or gods and he says you will cause them to forget my name and the world has.....no one can prove this wrong so they continue their god worship rev 12/9 is so true.I think one must pray to the creator for understanding.god worship must be destroyed....

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#414666 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Unrepentant adulteres, fornicators, liars theives..ect get disfellowshiped. The congregations are to be kept clean. If you have a Bible take the time and read this scriptures from your OwN Bible. This is nothing new under the sun it happened in Paul's day.
HOW ABOUT TELLING THE tRUTH?

Disfellowshipping Sins:

•Reading Anti-JW literature
•Criticizing the teachings of the Watchtower
•Communicating with Ex-JWs
•Gambling
•Smoking
•Blood Transfusions
•Dating a non-Jehovah’s Witness, and many other offenses not mentioned in the Bible as disfellowshipping offenses

An unrepentant Jehovah’s Witness is disfellowshipped without the input of the congregation. A Jehovah’s Witness who commits “unclean conduct” according to the Watchtower’s guidelines is disfellowshipped by a “judicial committee” made of up three Jehovah’s Witness elders. This decision is made behind closed doors without the input of others in the congregation

Disfellowshipped Jehovah’s Witnesses are not to be considered “brothers” in the faith, but rather enemies to be “hated” with “Godly hatred”(WT 6-15-1980, p. 8 and WT 10-1-1993, p. 13). Ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses are told that they have lost their salvation and have no hope of future resurrection unless they return to the Watchtower organization before their physical death.

Unless the member is appointed as a qualified “elder,” all communication between Jehovah’s Witness members and Ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses is strictly prohibited. Referencing 2 John 10 to support this practice, the Watchtower takes this passage out of context. This verse speaks of not greeting/welcoming false teachers into the first century “house” churches to proclaim their false gospel message to church members. This passage has nothing to do with how to treat a disfellowshipped “brother.

NOW FROM THE bIBLE;

While “association” with an expelled “brother” is limited (2 Thessalonians 3:6, 14; 1 Corinthians 5:11), they are still allowed to be spoken to and “admonished” to turn from their sinful ways (2 Thessalonians 3:15). There is no indication in any of these Scriptures that only “elders” are allowed to communicate with expelled “brothers.” James 5:19-20:“My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of SINS.

There is no command in Scripture to shun those who leave the Christian faith (1 John 2:19). While those who cause divisions (Romans 16:17) or promote false doctrines (Titus 3:10) are to be watched and “rejected” if they do not repent after being warned, there is no command to stop communicating with ex-believers.


For more information see:

WHAT IS A CULT?- Key Facts You Should Know About Cults and Mind Control

Are Jehovah's Witnesses a cult?

Why do people leave cults?

Disfellowshipped but Saved by Jehovah!- Anne Marie's Story ( 4jehovah.org )

fred

Piedmont, OK

#414667 Jan 11, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>I BELIEVE I AREADY DONE that when I confessed and accepted Christ as my Saviour was Baptised has he commanded as an action of my faith and entered his rest and will wait in my lot til the ressurection when I will be raised incorruptable and go through the thousand year rest with Christ prior to the 2nd resurrection unto judgement.
It is my thought that when you go into the world you become dirty for the world is dirty. and this is the reason for your ablution to me it makes me feel wonderful and yes sir you will be resurrected and will be taught the laws for a thousand years but then as you know satan will be loosened again to test you please do not fail...this final test. I think I will just wonder around and stay away from sinners.And if I might I have seen many people baptized but it was done incorrect.you must ask permission to come to the father trough the son and this is not done during most baptisms.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#414668 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Figures, you're straight out posting apostate stuff from EX WITNESSES. Those are the ones who scream, hoot, curse, yell at us and picket outside our conventions. No I know you're really posting lies.
who should know better than those who have escaped the snares of the devil and your cult?lol
fred

Piedmont, OK

#414669 Jan 11, 2013
Why can no one see they changed his name and made him a god ????????? and does he not warn you about god worship he don't even want to be in the same category as gods...do you not think that revelation 12/9 does not pertain to you.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#414670 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Because I know what we teach, how we speak. We are united as one. There is no division among our teachings. No witness will ever knock on a door and say: Hey let's talk about the Holy Ghost!! Its just not going to happen. We don't use the word Holy Ghost in the ministry. We say: Holy Spirit.
I thought you guys say His active force.

I asked you a few weeks ago if you have been born again,you never answered,unless I missed it.

Also,what about 'ol Taz?
What about all the failed predictions of the end of time.
Rememeber 1975?

Why do you all keep changing?

'ol Taz used the KJV,what happened with that?

They changed God's Holy Word by omitting very inportant verses in order to deny the diety of Christ our Saviour.

Also,they have added to His Word.

Just look up the history of the JW's.

Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy, and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do.

In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.

http://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-...
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#414671 Jan 11, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Aug, 21, 1982, some jw's came to my door and we talked for awhile and then they TRIED TO SELL ME THEIR MAGAZINES, WHEN I DECLINED THEN THEY TRIED TO LEAVE THEM WITH ME.
and then i kicked them out, I just wanted to hear their lies.lol.
and as far as your Bible,you would have to give them away, no Christian would ever want to buy one
unless it is to see how the devil has changed the Word of God.
Hey Preston,

I, too, have spoke with these people.....

I have asked them so many questions in which they have NO answers.....

Just more false teachers.....

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#414672 Jan 11, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>sorry to hear about your loss of your nephew,and my best wishes to your brother in his recovery,pancreatic cancer is the most serious of cancers,but if caught in time it's possible to survive it,so never say never,tell him to stay positive,there is allways a chance.
Thank you Jethro.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#414673 Jan 11, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>dont know and dont care. I aint stupid enough to make deals with the devil. God was dealing with me and He wanted me to hear their lies.and they didnt like it when I reached and picked up a Bible.lol
lol........

I didn't even have a bible when they confronted me.....

Just fired a lot of questions at me with NO answers in return....
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#414674 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> And so how much were the magazines?
Why do we need magazines when we have the Word of God???

Bible....priceless.....

Magazines....a dime a dozen....unless you have the CORRECT Word of God in these magazines, these magazines WON'T SAVE your SOUL....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#414675 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
Hi Robert!(Waves):oD
Hello Aviela new friend

I wrote to you. Its on the previous page, before you and preston were "engaged" in writing(smile).

However, read that post first, then I would like you to answer for me a question about your view on the trinity....

If you do not believe in the trinity, then what do you believe?

I know that it is by belief that you understand as you do. So I am not critical, or apprehensive in communicating. But I rather, seek to find. Thus, if I seem critical, it is that I think critically, or more commonly said, I reason.

For some on here it is a challenge to their faith to reason. Rather it should be that faith and reason are necessary....
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#414676 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I give you the time of day not because I think you're interested in truths, but because I want to I want to clear up the slander you speak against us. Now I caught you 4 LIES. We don't sell magazines. We give give them out free if someone chooses to donate for the worldwide preaching work then we will accept donations. But there is no prize tag on our literature. We give millions of Bibles away for free.
You wrote:

donate for the worldwide preaching work then we will accept donations

And, what happens when we donate to your false teachings of the Word of God that misleads SOULS???
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#414677 Jan 11, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted]
and as far as your Bible,you would have to give them away, no Christian would ever want to buy one
unless it is to see how the devil has changed the Word of God.
Our own Bible? And so how do you feel about the current King James Bible? It has restored Jehovah's name in the Bible 6,972 times. Is the King James Bible devilish?
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#414678 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
Exposing Preston's slander. I've caught him in 5 lies so far and they keep coming by the minute.
Here is the lies he's made about my faith that he knows NOTHING about.
1) His nephew worships the devil because he quoted Preston a scripture that he cannot refute. The scripture is found in Preston's Bible but he refuses to look it up.
2) We have deacons in our kingdom hall
3) A sister showed up at his door and said: she wanted to talk about the holy ghost
4) Our elders are greedy yet not ONE elder gets paid a dime for doing God's will to sheperd the flock
5) That he knows the Bible, Preston talks out of the side of his neck and doesn't think before he speaks. He DOES NOT know the Bible.
Do you believe and teach the following:

No one goes to heaven but 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#414679 Jan 11, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do we need magazines when we have the Word of God???
Bible....priceless.....
Magazines....a dime a dozen....unless you have the CORRECT Word of God in these magazines, these magazines WON'T SAVE your SOUL....
The Bible is our main book the magazines is to help people cope with life problems.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#414680 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
Exposing Preston's slander. I've caught him in 5 lies so far and they keep coming by the minute.
Here is the lies he's made about my faith that he knows NOTHING about.
1) His nephew worships the devil because he quoted Preston a scripture that he cannot refute. The scripture is found in Preston's Bible but he refuses to look it up.
2) We have deacons in our kingdom hall
3) A sister showed up at his door and said: she wanted to talk about the holy ghost
4) Our elders are greedy yet not ONE elder gets paid a dime for doing God's will to sheperd the flock
5) That he knows the Bible, Preston talks out of the side of his neck and doesn't think before he speaks. He DOES NOT know the Bible.
Do you believe and teach the following?

JW deny the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#414681 Jan 11, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do we need magazines when we have the Word of God???
Bible....priceless.....
Magazines....a dime a dozen....unless you have the CORRECT Word of God in these magazines, these magazines WON'T SAVE your SOUL....
You can take our literature and use whatever copy of the Bible you like. It will help you understand.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#414682 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> The Bible is our main book the magazines is to help people cope with life problems.
Again, you DO NOT need these magazines just the BIBLE can help people cope with life's problems.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#414683 Jan 11, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought you guys say His active force.
I asked you a few weeks ago if you have been born again,you never answered,unless I missed it.
Also,what about 'ol Taz?
What about all the failed predictions of the end of time.
Rememeber 1975?
Why do you all keep changing?
'ol Taz used the KJV,what happened with that?
They changed God's Holy Word by omitting very inportant verses in order to deny the diety of Christ our Saviour.
Also,they have added to His Word.
Just look up the history of the JW's.
Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy, and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do.
In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.
http://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-...
what do you think of a man that wont even take care or visit his own mother? he wants her put into a nursing home. if cathie is working, then my sister has to sleep in a chair, because she cant lift herself into her bed. and this worthless son will not drive 5 miles to help her, all because she is a Christian, and I cant lift her, she is to heavy for me.

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