Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#414624 Jan 11, 2013
Infallible Catholic Church Teaching #62...

It is moral and correct to use the power of "Holy diplomatic immunity" to avoid accountability in the abuse of children at orphanages.

1... It was probably the orphans' fault.

2... It was "just a few sinners here and there."

3... It really has nothing to do with THE Church.

Holy diplomatic immunity is a good thing when used properly.

Amen
preston

Waverly, OH

#414625 Jan 11, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at all!! There is (really) nothing (at all) to "discuss, nothing to debate, and nothing to argue over" The TRUTH of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ, has,(for over 2000 years), is and will (CONTINUE) to remain and be in Jesus Christ and His (historically and biblically) PROVEN, AUTHENTICATED AND VERIFIED One True Apostolic Catholic Church--(the Bride of Christ) in which the TRUE GOSPEL is (proclaimed each day at daily Mass) as the FULLNESS of the faith AND the FULLNESS of the Truth!!
it was meant to be funny, since no one posted for a few minutes. dont take it personal. I like you
preston

Waverly, OH

#414626 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Our elders sheperd the flock for free. They don't get paid to marry people and do funeral services. They don't get a salary. They tend to the congregation out of love of God and people. They don't do it out of dishonest gain. That is a true Christian man to me. They speak to us in a KIND loving manner. I'm suprised anyone listened to your sermons you sound very abusive. Its abusive mean pastors like you that made me realise I'm in the right place:oD
yes, when I deal with the devil and his friends, I am very outspoken.

your elders dont get anything because it goes to the higher ups.

Witnesses to STOP Selling Books and Magazines
Much of the following information was provided to Watchman Fellowship by Randy Watters of Bethel Ministries, and David Reed of Comments From The Friends.

Starting March 1st, Jehovah's Witnesses in the USA will no longer distribute books and magazines for a specified contribution.

A special announcement was made at all Kingdom Halls (Jehovah's Witness meeting places) around February 25th, outlining a new policy of distributing their literature "on a complete donation basis."

Monetary transactions for books and magazines at Witness' Kingdom Halls will also cease. Literature for door-to-door canvassing will be distributed to members without cost.

However, contribution boxes will be placed nearby for free-will donations.

Previously, Witness members purchased their literature at local Kingdom Halls and received reimbursement when they sold these items to the public.

People obtaining Watchtower literature from Witness canvassers will be asked if they would like to make a small donation. This, however, will not be a precondition of obtaining literature, as in the past.

I guess that those magazines make good starters for fire places.lol

when no one wants to buy them and the pack of wolves have to keep them,lol
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#414627 Jan 11, 2013
Infallible Catholic Church Teaching #63...

It is moral and correct to use the power of "Holy diplomatic immunity" to avoid accountability in the abuse of children at schools for the deaf

1... It was probably the deaf children's fault.

2... It was "just a few sinners here and there."

3... It really has nothing to do with THE Church.

Holy diplomatic immunity is a good thing when used against the deaf.

Amen
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#414628 Jan 11, 2013
"Only a True Church has diplomatic immunity" says Vatican
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#414629 Jan 11, 2013
From the Article of this Board.......

"It says although Orthodox churches are true churches, they are defective because they do not have diplomatic immunity."

The document adds that Protestant denominations — called Christian Communities born out of the Reformation — are not true churches, but ecclesial communities.

"These ecclesial communities which, specifically because of the absence of diplomatic immunity … cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called 'churches' in the proper sense," it said.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#414630 Jan 11, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
<quoted text>
lol Jesus can't be happy.
Imagine, "Holy diplomatic immunity" being used to avoid accountability in the abuse of children at orphanages!
Catholics must hate those poor orphans for making waves.
Oh well, "just a few sinners here and there" -- protected by an institution with the power of diplomatic immunity.
But the Church didn't abuse any orphans.
The church is still perfect, right?
My heart goes out to any orphans. An awful life with no mom or dad or siblings. To make it worse some very bad people took advantage of many of them.

No personal apologies to those that were hurt, no support team from the catholic church to show they care. NOTHING!

I will always stand up for victims......and catholics can call me all the names they like.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#414631 Jan 11, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes--"well confirmed" by the National Inquirer--which "parallels everything that you post on this forum.!!
DOUBLE BUSTED AND UNBELIEVABLE!!
HOJO says to Michael.......DOUBLE BUSTED!

There is no such thing as DOUBLE BUSTED! I think you mean BIG BUSTED. Like a beautiful woman.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#414632 Jan 11, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
My heart goes out to any orphans. An awful life with no mom or dad or siblings. To make it worse some very bad people took advantage of many of them.
No personal apologies to those that were hurt, no support team from the catholic church to show they care. NOTHING!
I will always stand up for victims......and catholics can call me all the names they like.
Sorry orphans.

The one-true church, perfect in teachings on morals -- has determined that we can't help you -- due to Holy Diplomatic Immunity. But Jesus and His one-true church love you.

Michael, this is exactly why I am HONORED to be called names by the Catholic fanatics here.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#414633 Jan 11, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello LTM.
Its his way of having fun. He has yet to respond with his list to verify his total.
Hi Michael hows the weather down your way, its crazy up here we had such cold weather then it was 10 above yesterday now we have freezing rain and zone.
The flu bug has been flying around since before christmas, I am glad I had my shot. I feel a little under the weather but not sick like the rest.
Fun Facts

Freeland, MI

#414634 Jan 11, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Big A, 2000+ years ago some guy walked on water...its funny! To many galaxies to count and the primitive human animal is still talking about some guy that walked on water! Again, TO MANY GALAXIES TO COMPREHEND!.........some guy walked on water??????????The Bible story had a good run..........
You may have overlooked...

http://bible.cc/2_peter/3-4.htm

Questions?
http://avemariaradio.net/catholic-online-radi...

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#414635 Jan 11, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I hope you saw my apology..a few days ago. I'm sorry if I offended you. I answered your question and when to post it..topix swallowed it up...agape
Aviela new friend

Yes I did see your apology, though it was unnecessary, as I was not offended.

If sometimes you write a post, it is good to COPY it before you post. This is especially true when it is a lengthy or a long time before it is posted. The you can PASTE it if necessary, so you won't be disappointed at losing it....

In general, I will listen and respond to the best of my ability.
I have a rather low threshold for those that are dogmatic, and merely respond like a robot. Human beings were made to think. It is therefore to my advantage to think, and it is my hope others do likewise.

Although we each come with our own bias in a discussion, I find it beneficial to use reason and faith regarding scripture within a context, rather than "shredding" and abusing scripture for justifying my understanding....I hope you may do likewise.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#414636 Jan 11, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>yes, when I deal with the devil and his friends, I am very outspoken.
your elders dont get anything because it goes to the higher ups.
Witnesses to STOP Selling Books and Magazines
Much of the following information was provided to Watchman Fellowship by Randy Watters of Bethel Ministries, and David Reed of Comments From The Friends.
Starting March 1st, Jehovah's Witnesses in the USA will no longer distribute books and magazines for a specified contribution.
A special announcement was made at all Kingdom Halls (Jehovah's Witness meeting places) around February 25th, outlining a new policy of distributing their literature "on a complete donation basis."
Monetary transactions for books and magazines at Witness' Kingdom Halls will also cease. Literature for door-to-door canvassing will be distributed to members without cost.
However, contribution boxes will be placed nearby for free-will donations.
Previously, Witness members purchased their literature at local Kingdom Halls and received reimbursement when they sold these items to the public.
People obtaining Watchtower literature from Witness canvassers will be asked if they would like to make a small donation. This, however, will not be a precondition of obtaining literature, as in the past.
I guess that those magazines make good starters for fire places.lol
when no one wants to buy them and the pack of wolves have to keep them,lol
I give you the time of day not because I think you're interested in truths, but because I want to I want to clear up the slander you speak against us. Now I caught you 4 LIES. We don't sell magazines. We give give them out free if someone chooses to donate for the worldwide preaching work then we will accept donations. But there is no prize tag on our literature. We give millions of Bibles away for free.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#414637 Jan 11, 2013
Exposing Preston's slander. I've caught him in 5 lies so far and they keep coming by the minute.
Here is the lies he's made about my faith that he knows NOTHING about.

1) His nephew worships the devil because he quoted Preston a scripture that he cannot refute. The scripture is found in Preston's Bible but he refuses to look it up.

2) We have deacons in our kingdom hall

3) A sister showed up at his door and said: she wanted to talk about the holy ghost

4) Our elders are greedy yet not ONE elder gets paid a dime for doing God's will to sheperd the flock

5) That he knows the Bible, Preston talks out of the side of his neck and doesn't think before he speaks. He DOES NOT know the Bible.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#414638 Jan 11, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Every heresy from the beginning believed they were spiritually minded. No Catholic has ever said the scripture is not God breathed or inspired. Just because Protestants twist what is said does not make it true. You know very well the Catholic church does not believe it can go against scripture. We do however believe that Holy Tradition has always been a part of the Church as it was for the Jews and furthermore is necessary for proper interpretation. Protestants scholars have to admit the reality of the sigificants of Tradition in the early Church and they do. How would anyone know which books were spurrious or to include in the bible if it had not been for the Church and those appointed in succession to guide it and Hold Fast to the traditions they had been taught? Do you know what the criteria was when they were determining what was scripture and what was not? Why were the gnostic gospels rejected? Who gave Protestants the authority to determine what books they deem apocryphal? Isn't it obvious that early on the heresies all used scripture to justify their doctrines? Every single protestant who adheres to sola scriptura claims the right to interpret scripture and thus become supreme authorities of what the bible really says.
However Jesus DID NOT instruct the Apostles to write everything down and put it in a book that would be the sole rule of faith and each individual could interpret to their own destruction. He did not say which books were scripture as none of them were even written yet. Hebrews does not say Obey the book that is over you and do not give it grief unless someone disagrees with you then go out and start another church.
Paul tells Timothy not to ordain just anyone. Does that sound like a practice many Protestant sects follow? He did not hand out bibles. Furthermore the book of revelation is not the bible it is that book and there are multitudes of what people believe on that. It was also controversial that it was scripture and Luther most definitely wanted it gone. Now here is a Protestant site that argues when and to whom that book was written.
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/revelation.html
Dust Storm

I understand your concern over heresy.

But here is the point, it is not for us to judge. Rather Matthew 13 describes the kingdom of heaven in many ways. But especially that it is left up to God and the angels to seperate the good and the bad.

Note within your own worship space there will be some seperated....

Obviously, the scripures, though not the fullness of the deposit of faith has within them enough for an understanding of salvation. This is the case, otherwise we could not consider the encycliccal writings that they are "relatives"(I am writing about some of the Protestants). Even though in general Protestants with great difficulty can accept that "some" Catholics might be saved.(smile).

So it would be better for them to believe illictly, and have them saved, than to not believe and have them lost....

Let God sort it out in the end. While we are alive in this world it is better then to encourage and warn each other with the scriptures.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#414639 Jan 11, 2013
Preston's lie number #6

We sale literature. No we don't.

By the time I apply my mascara and do a couple of errands when I come back Preston would have allready made 101 lies by 5 o'clock.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#414640 Jan 11, 2013
;oD

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#414641 Jan 11, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I can depend on what God has told me.
the day of my dad funeral, my nephew said not to worry, he was only sleeping, and as I started to disagree with him(a deacon in your cult), God spoke to me and said these words."he is not a child of mine", therfore it follows, if you dont belong to God, you belong to the devil, and he surely does. to treat his mother like he does, he doesnt visit her, wishes nothing else for her but for her to be put in a nursing home. he is filth and it runs in your satanic church.
Question: "What does the Bible say about caring for our old parents?"
Answer: The Bible has much to say about caring for elderly parents and other family members who are not able to care for themselves. The early Christian church acted as the social services agency for other believers. They cared for the poor, the sick, the widows and the orphans who had no one else to care for them. Christians who had family members in need were expected to meet those needs. Unfortunately, caring for our parents in their old age is no longer an obligation that many of us are willing to accept.
The elderly can be seen as burdens rather than blessings. Sometimes we are quick to forget the sacrifices our parents made for us when they are in need of care themselves. Instead of taking them into our homes—whenever that is safe and feasible—we put them in retirement communities or nursing homes, sometimes against their will. We may not value the wisdom they have acquired through living long lives, and we can discredit their advice as “outdated.”
When we honor and care for our parents, we are serving God as well. The Bible says,“The church should care for any widow who has no one else to care for her. But if she has children or grandchildren, their first responsibility is to show godliness at home and repay their parents by taking care of them. This is something that pleases God very much....But those who won't care for their own relatives, especially those living in the same household, have denied what we believe. Such people are worse than unbelievers”(1 Timothy 5:3-4, 8).
WORSE THAN UNBELIEVERS. FITS MIKE TO A TEE.
http://www.gotquestions.org/caring-for-old-pa...
preston

lol....Come on. You can't judge a denomination by some screwball relative, or even a "clique" within a denomination....

Matt Chapter 13 lets God and the angels seperate them out of the church in the end. But it is best to correct them if you can.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#414642 Jan 11, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Michael hows the weather down your way, its crazy up here we had such cold weather then it was 10 above yesterday now we have freezing rain and zone.
The flu bug has been flying around since before christmas, I am glad I had my shot. I feel a little under the weather but not sick like the rest.
Hi LTM. The flu bug is everywhere. The temperature tomorrow is going to 13 C in southern Ontario. So far a very good winter with above temperatures and little snow..........like last year.

Good to hear from you....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#414643 Jan 11, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>you wrote{Just because Protestants twist what is said does not make it true}\\I NEVER TWISTED ANYTHING.
REGGIE SAID THAT JESUS NEVER TOLD ANYONE TO WRITE SOMETHING DOWN. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MOST OF YOU CATHOLICS HAVE SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN ON THIS FORUM AND IT IS NOT TRUE.
AND I POSTED ONE VERSE INDICATING OTHERWISE.
LET GOD BE TRUE.
preston

Its an argument over who owns the apostles, Prots or Roman Catholics. Rather it should be who has the capacity to understand them.

Its not a matter of counting pros and cons to a viewpoint, and the one with the most wins. Rather it is the one who has faith that seeks understanding wins.

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