Thank God your not in the Bible,hot shot! You have claimed all along that protestants are a singular rebellious,each autonomous,each given to his or her own doxology,and your wrong.It is a prejudice you hold deep within your own understanding,and that has nothing to do with what God inspires in the hearts of so many to spread the gospel,outside of your Roman Catholicism.<quoted text>
Personally I would say that individually each protestant could be considered a denomination. That may be viewed as an attack or extreme by any Protestant, but the reality is by virtue of Sola scriptura the ONLY authority that ANY Protestant has to adhere to is that which they choose to believe scripture says. Each Protestant is a Supreme authority. In that respect Protestants hold more authority than any Pope has ever or will have.
So its a circular argument. The fact is there are far more than 30,000 using Barrets definition. The many little congregations containing 150 or so members are not listed.
Ok so if we look at individual things for example on this thread alone. Some say Baptisms is not necessary some say it is. Some say its not salvic others say it is. Some believe in infant baptism others no. Some say that baptism has nothing to do with water others do. Some say that baptism is only valid if immersed fully three times others say immersed only. Some say pouring is ok others not. Some say Sprinkling is acceptable others not. Some say it is only valid in the name of Jesus not the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Some say in the name of the Creator others the Mother of the Universe. There are more, but those are fairly significant differences. We can extend that to what the keys are, the law and various other applications.
Yet more than a few Protestants maintain they can condemn to hell other people and say they are not Christian because they do not see what they see. Each hurls they are preaching another gospel at one another. A group of people of say 15 people say they have the truth and they dont sin like those others. Sorry but the church is in the bible and there was always monarchal Bishops from the beginning. The bottom line is if there is no established authority and noone can really know the truth as many Protestants claim then how can anyone be certain of the truth. Repeatedly Protestants in here have trashed on the Early Fathers. Yet glorified the exegesis of some modern day preacher which holds portions of that which they believe.
Yeah, but you Catholics have people that grumble. Yes, we do! So did Moses, So did the Apostles and so did the people they appointed. Paul had hands laid on him and was baptized by Ananius an appointed member of the church. He didnt just have a vision and say the sinner prayer and the Apostles suddenly accepted him as an Apostle. Paul says to Timothy not to lay hands on (ordain)just anyone. Oddly enough a poster in here said that meant not to beat them up. Is that a personal interpretation? Sure is! Paul says to remember what you have learned and from whom you have learned it. The same Corinthians whom Paul wrote to with all their troubles were at it again when they had usurped their appointed Bishop. Pope Clement restored him when St John was still alive.
Those within the Catholic Church who rebel and disobey the church are being disobedient. The fact that they are seen as disobedient shows that the church is unified in teaching. Hebrews says to obey those who are over you and do not give them grief for it would be unprofitable for you. The Sola Scriptura Protestant claims the only authority is the bible and their interpretation is the supreme rule. That's not in the bible.
There is a unity and God has placed it deep within the conscience of all believers.