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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414560 Jan 10, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>first, i must know more than you as I have showed over the years.lol.
so if you knew a little or at the very minimum ,more than me, about the bible, then you would know that the Greatest of all apostles SUPPORTED HIMSELF ALONG WITH OTHERS IN HIS OCCUPATION AS A TENTMAKER.
Tentmaking, in general, refers to the activities of any Christian who, while functioning as a minister, receives little or no pay for his or her church work, and supports him or herself by additional, unrelated work. Specifically, tentmaking can also refer to a method of international Christian evangelism in which missionaries support themselves by working full time in the marketplace with their skills and education, instead of receiving financial support from a church. The term comes from the fact that the apostle Paul supported himself by making tents while living and preaching in Corinth (Acts 18:3).
YOU LOSE, LIKE ALWAYS WHEN YOU TRY AND BUTT HEADS WITH ME.
and I have many, many times preached on other nights beside Sunday and wed's in numerous revivals that have lasted weeks, JUST LIKE OTHER PREACHERS THAT HOLD FULL TIMES JOBS BESIDES THEIR PASTORING AND EVANGELISTIC WORK.
THAT AINT DISGRACEFUL AND I HAVE NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED ABOUT, nor do I have the police and the grand jury at my door seeking to have me arrested for abuse of any kind, to bad that your clerics cant say the same, isnt it?
and my church never had to have insurance to protect them for illicit behavior on my part resulting in large law suits.
SO DONT MAKE IT PERSONAL. i have had nothing to hide, nor has my church ever had to shelter me like your church does with Law.
Seriously, do you honestly thing you know anything?;oD
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414561 Jan 10, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>first, i must know more than you as I have showed over the years.lol.
so if you knew a little or at the very minimum ,more than me, about the bible, then you would know that the Greatest of all apostles SUPPORTED HIMSELF ALONG WITH OTHERS IN HIS OCCUPATION AS A TENTMAKER.
Tentmaking, in general, refers to the activities of any Christian who, while functioning as a minister, receives little or no pay for his or her church work, and supports him or herself by additional, unrelated work. Specifically, tentmaking can also refer to a method of international Christian evangelism in which missionaries support themselves by working full time in the marketplace with their skills and education, instead of receiving financial support from a church. The term comes from the fact that the apostle Paul supported himself by making tents while living and preaching in Corinth (Acts 18:3).
YOU LOSE, LIKE ALWAYS WHEN YOU TRY AND BUTT HEADS WITH ME.
and I have many, many times preached on other nights beside Sunday and wed's in numerous revivals that have lasted weeks, JUST LIKE OTHER PREACHERS THAT HOLD FULL TIMES JOBS BESIDES THEIR PASTORING AND EVANGELISTIC WORK.
THAT AINT DISGRACEFUL AND I HAVE NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED ABOUT, nor do I have the police and the grand jury at my door seeking to have me arrested for abuse of any kind, to bad that your clerics cant say the same, isnt it?
and my church never had to have insurance to protect them for illicit behavior on my part resulting in large law suits.
SO DONT MAKE IT PERSONAL. i have had nothing to hide, nor has my church ever had to shelter me like your church does with Law.
Do you what truth is?
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414562 Jan 10, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I guess that you aint caught on yet.
I dont like your church, nor you either if you are in it and you are. is that plain enough for you?
people like you and my nephew that serve the devil, are not on my most popular individuals to invite for a cookout.
I would split a pepsi with anthony much quicker than I would with my own nephew.
I don't drink pepsi:oD
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414563 Jan 10, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Seriously, do you honestly thing you know anything?;oD
think...
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#414564 Jan 10, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Do you believe that the good book the Bible is God's word?
After each of the Scripture readings at Mass (the Liturgy of the Word), the lector says, "The word of the Lord." The people respond, "Thanks be to God."

We then stand for the Gospel which is read only by the priest or deacon. If read by the deacon, he receives a special blessing from the priest just beforehand. We sing the "Alleluia". The priest/deacon then says,

P: The Lord be with you.
R (People respond): And with your spirit.
P: A reading from the holy Gospel according to N.________
R: Glory to you, O Lord.

The Gospel is read. The priest/deacon then says,

P: The Gospel of the Lord.
R: Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ.
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From the teaching of the Catholic Church:

I. CHRIST — THE UNIQUE WORD OF SACRED SCRIPTURE

101 In order to reveal himself to men, in the condescension of his goodness God speaks to them in human words: "Indeed the words of God, expressed in the words of men, are in every way like human language, just as the Word of the eternal Father, when he took on himself the flesh of human weakness, became like men."

102 Through all the words of Sacred Scripture, God speaks only one single Word, his one Utterance in whom he expresses himself completely:

You recall that one and the same Word of God extends throughout Scripture, that it is one and the same Utterance that resounds in the mouths of all the sacred writers, since he who was in the beginning God with God has no need of separate syllables; for he is not subject to time.

103 For this reason, the Church has always venerated the Scriptures as she venerates the Lord's Body. She never ceases to present to the faithful the bread of life, taken from the one table of God's Word and Christ's Body.

104 In Sacred Scripture, the Church constantly finds her nourishment and her strength, for she welcomes it not as a human word, "but as what it really is, the word of God". "In the sacred books, the Father who is in heaven comes lovingly to meet his children, and talks with them."
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a3.htm
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414565 Jan 10, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, I do know how God feels about BIG FATG LIES, WHICH IS WHY HE SAID MY NEPHEW DIDNT BELONG TO HIM.
I dont need to know any more than that.
you are either with him or against Him.
and you belong to the devil not God.
one Sunday afternoon, i looked across the street and saw some of your group, and i started laughing. they sent this one young woman to my door, and I invited her in, and she began to talk and i listened and she started on the Holy Ghost, now I ahd just preached on Him that morning, and so we discussed him for acouple of minutes and she began to get uncomfortable, and i asked her to step over to my wall and asked her to look at my books. her eyes got very big when she saw around a thousand books on religion, and then she almost lost it when i told her that I had read every one of them(and I had).
THEN I ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO PRAY WITH ME. AND IT THEN BECAME A SIDESHOW AND SHE BEGAN TO PICK UP HER MAGAZINES AND PAPERS AND PRACTICALLY RAN OUT OF MY HOME.lol.
so I will tell you like I have told others on this forum.
I HAVE FORGOT MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW.
I catch you in MANY lies. First of all NO JW says the holy ghost. We don't refer the holy spirit as a ghost. She did NOT say she wanted to talk about the holy ghost. You can go to Japan and no witness will say let's talk about the holy ghost. Its not how we present the truth. Go around the world, test us. We are united in faith in words.
preston

Athens, OH

#414566 Jan 10, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I don't drink pepsi:oD
WHO CARES?

THE MAIN THING IS THAT i WOULDNT SET DOWN And SHARE ANYTHING WITH THE DEVIL AND YOU.LOL
preston

Athens, OH

#414567 Jan 10, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I catch you in MANY lies. First of all NO JW says the holy ghost. We don't refer the holy spirit as a ghost. She did NOT say she wanted to talk about the holy ghost. You can go to Japan and no witness will say let's talk about the holy ghost. Its not how we present the truth. Go around the world, test us. We are united in faith in words.
SINCE YOU WERENT THERE, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT WAS SAID AND WHAT WASNT SAID.

how you present the truth?

NOW THAT IS AN OXYMORON.
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414568 Jan 10, 2013
preston wrote:
and we have hashed this over many times in the past.
many small country churches simply can not afford to pay a minister to Pastor their church. yet they are entitled to hear the Word of God the same as those who attend a much larger church.
this takes nothing away from the preacher who Pastors these small churches, in many instances, the small church probably get to hear better preaching in the first place, for one simple reason.
many colleges teach the Holy Spirit OUT of the preachers, when you begin to lean on the understanding of those teaching you, you drift away from the voice of God.
no MAN can teach another man HOW TO PREACH, this comes from experience and the help of God, and i have yet to see this fail. not only in my own experience but I have heard others talk about it with other young Preachers, and I have seen it also.
Jesus spoke about a worldwide brotherhood your church is not teaching or giving the same sermons the next church down the street. Your church members are divided in politics, abortions, and so on. The Bible says to give freely and to be united in and agreement in all things of the faith. Why is your pastor getting paid.
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414569 Jan 10, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>WHO CARES?
THE MAIN THING IS THAT i WOULDNT SET DOWN And SHARE ANYTHING WITH THE DEVIL AND YOU.LOL
no worries
preston

Athens, OH

#414570 Jan 10, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Well of course she felt uncomfortable. I mean its not like you know who you're praying too. You probably pray to the trinity god.You do know the trinity belief came from the pagans don't you?
SHE WAS UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE SHE WAS UNLEAREND AND SHE CAME INTO CONTACT WITH A MAN MUCH MORE KNOWLEGABLE THAN SHE WAS ABOUT THE wORD OF GOD.

and more important, when the Word of God is spoke, the devil flees, and boy did she ran out that door. it is still funny today to remember how she acted.

and what is really great, they marked my house and never came back. how do I know, one guy that I worked with was a jw and he told me.lol

he died a few months ago. to bad, he cant come back from hell to tell you idiots how stupid that you are to beleive the lies that they have told you.

HE AINT ASLEEP, HE IS IN HELL TONIGHT. JUST WHERE MY NEPHEW WILL END UP SOME DAY.
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414571 Jan 10, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>SINCE YOU WERENT THERE, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT WAS SAID AND WHAT WASNT SAID.
how you present the truth?
NOW THAT IS AN OXYMORON.
Because I've caught you in 3 lies allready. I don't trust your exagerated stories. I don't have to be there. I know how my brothers and sisters present the truth. We are all taught the same. We are united in ALL things.
preston

Athens, OH

#414572 Jan 10, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Because I've caught you in 3 lies allready. I don't trust your exagerated stories. I don't have to be there. I know how my brothers and sisters present the truth. We are all taught the same. We are united in ALL things.
lol, you havent caught me in any lies.

as far as the Holy Ghost name is concerned, i use it both ways and am not afraid to say the word ghost.lol

If she said spirit, I could and would say that we were talking about the Holy Ghost.THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME.

so stay on this forum if you like and in time, you will see that my words are Truth and not exagerated in the least. JUST CAUSE YOU DONT LIKE THEM, DONT MAKE THEM LIES.

I have no doubt that all of you are taught the same, and they are lies straight from the devil.

and as far as your comment about my pastor being Paid. I was my Pastor and i never took a salary. but if I did, that would be Biblical as i showed in that link abbout Peter et al being supported by that early church, and also it is vindicated bythese words.

"the laborer is worthy of his hire" and could be expected to enjoy the bounty of others who do work in various jobs, and pay into teh upkeep of the church.

if your satanic cult doesnt p[ay a minister, i can easily understand that, the devil talks a good talk but he doesnt support his people, he allows you to ride that rollercoaster straight into hell when he will go 2, and not only that, I would pay your minister either, liars are cheap today.lol

and to not pay them doesnt mean that you are a godly church either,. since we know that you are not.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#414573 Jan 10, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>first, i must know more than you as I have showed over the years.lol.
so if you knew a little or at the very minimum ,more than me, about the bible, then you would know that the Greatest of all apostles SUPPORTED HIMSELF ALONG WITH OTHERS IN HIS OCCUPATION AS YOU LOSE, LIKE ALWAYS WHEN YOU TRY AND BUTT HEADS WITH ME.
and I have many, many times preached on other nights beside Sunday and wed's in numerous revivals that have lasted weeks, JUST LIKE OTHER PREACHERS THAT HOLD FULL TIMES JOBS BESIDES THEIR PASTORING AND EVANGELISTIC WORK.
THAT AINT DISGRACEFUL AND I HAVE NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED ABOUT, nor do I have the police and the grand jury at my door seeking to have me arrested for abuse of any kind, to bad that your clerics cant say the same, isnt it?
and my church never had to have insurance to protect them for illicit behavior on my part resulting in large law suits.
SO DONT MAKE IT PERSONAL. i have had nothing to hide, nor has my church ever had to shelter me like your church does with Law.
I would laugh too if I were you and believed you have proven to be anything but an idiot. Good Job! Your little church is a drop in the bucket and I showed that your lie that it never happens in the holiness churches was just that. Thats ok Preston I know you cant help being a jackass. Its your kind of attitudes that keeps children in danger. You are perfect. I guess the priests while saying mass are abusing children while he is saying mass. lol You are so stupid and ignorant its beyond believable.

You are such a joke Preston, but I thought you were the greatest Apostle to have ever lived. ROTFL.... First that Paul was the greatest Apostle I would agree he was great they all were, but he says he is the least. He went to see Peter who is always listed first. Next it was not the normative to have a full time Job. Paul did live on the offerings just not in some areas. Its not the Norm nor did he boast that it makes him better than preachers who do and it wasnt a lifetime commitment. I have no problem with people doing something else if they cannot sustain themselves while building. If the people want to complain of the massive burden then its something else. I would complain if you were my preacher but God gave me a brain. lol

You are NOT an Apostle. You are a loser though. You are a braggart, a boaster, a noisy gong, an arrogant fool, a delusional Narcissist and likely rank amongs the worst self proclaimed preachers to have ever walked the earth. Personal? LOL You know as a pretty big guy I have run into a lot of big mouthed small men like you. I know you are small because its always the ones with the biggest mouths. lol Yes Preston we all know that you alone understand everything in the bible and are infallable. lol

A tentmaker can be defined in many ways not the way you have it as fact.

1 Cor. 0:14 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel. Just Not Apostles Named Preston.

And what you would say unworthily if you charged.

2 Corinthians 12:13 How were you inferior to the other churches, except that I was never a burden to you? Forgive me this wrong!

Try again Preston. Maybe you can argue that Paul shouldnt be baptized because it was some confusion and the scripture is wrong. lol It kind of reminds me of another Arrogant man. Martin Luther who added the word alone.

You might want to study the Levites too.

marge

Leesburg, GA

#414574 Jan 10, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I know how my brothers and sisters present the truth. We are all taught the same. We are united in ALL things.
How do you know your brothers and sisters present the truth?
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414576 Jan 11, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I can depend on what God has told me.
the day of my dad funeral, my nephew said not to worry, he was only sleeping


When you have time while you're drinking your pepsi look this scripture up in any Bible
1 Thessalonians 4:13 Morever brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that YOU may not sorrow just as the rest do who have no hope.

And so your nephew quoted a scripture to console you and from that you gathered that he's a devil worshiper? Are you saying the scriptures come from the devil? I can show you other scriptures that says the same thing.
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414577 Jan 11, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>lol, you havent caught me in any lies.
as far as the Holy Ghost name is concerned, i use it both ways and am not afraid to say the word ghost.lol
If she said spirit, I could and would say that we were talking about the Holy Ghost.THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME.
so stay on this forum if you like and in time, you will see that my words are Truth and not exagerated in the least. JUST CAUSE YOU DONT LIKE THEM, DONT MAKE THEM LIES.
I have no doubt that all of you are taught the same, and they are lies straight from the devil.
and as far as your comment about my pastor being Paid. I was my Pastor and i never took a salary. but if I did, that would be Biblical as i showed in that link abbout Peter et al being supported by that early church, and also it is vindicated bythese words.
"the laborer is worthy of his hire" and could be expected to enjoy the bounty of others who do work in various jobs, and pay into teh upkeep of the church.
if your satanic cult doesnt p[ay a minister, i can easily understand that, the devil talks a good talk but he doesnt support his people, he allows you to ride that rollercoaster straight into hell when he will go 2, and not only that, I would pay your minister either, liars are cheap today.lol
and to not pay them doesnt mean that you are a godly church either,. since we know that you are not.
You say you were a pastor? Say ain't so? And this is how you talk to people? This is the perfect example why I won't go to your church. If this is the way pastors talk to folks I'd rather sit next to an alligator.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#414578 Jan 11, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus founded HIS Church---(Matthew 16:13-21)----HIS One True Apostolic (Universal-Catholic) Church--the Bride of Christ--that has existed and proven for over 2000 years. Jesus founded "only one" Church....YOU founded your Church,(not Jesus) which is man-made, conflicting and inconsistently contradicting with the ALL of the other 42,000+ Protestant (bible only)sects and cults!!God has not and is not the author of your bible only Protestant "confusion and chaos".
you are stating a falsehood here,nowhere in the book of mathew do you find the word catholic or universal,all that is stated is "MY CHURCH",that is not proof jesus is talking about a particular church,that is a man made conclussion. if it were the true church it would not have had to use the brutality that it did to get people to believe and follow it's false traditions,which have been handed down from generation to generation,most catholics are catholic because their ancestors were,they were raised to be catholic,they did not choose it,they were told what to believe,i see it all the time when i go to my brothers house or deal with my g/f's family and from talking to people i meet,the younger generations are not finding the truth on their own they are being told what it is and it's WRONG! people should be left alone to make their own choices not have a religion forced upon them,that is why you had 1.168 billion catholics at one time,but thanks to their own stupidity,they'll be none.
Aviela

Van Nuys, CA

#414579 Jan 11, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I guess that you aint caught on yet.
I dont like your church, nor you either if you are in it and you are. is that plain enough for you?
people like you and my nephew that serve the devil, are not on my most popular individuals to invite for a cookout.
I would split a pepsi with anthony much quicker than I would with my own nephew.
Your nephew (my brother) is doing just fine. If you hate him for being a witness its all good. He has 8 million brothers and sisters worldwide who love and will die for him if need to.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#414580 Jan 11, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
God hand-picked men to lead and administer His church on earth.
Men sin.
God knew this.
Get over it.
where is that stated in scripture? i've never seen it,there were 13 original apostles after john died that was the end of it,nowhere is it stated that the succession is/was continued.man created the continueation with the false teachings of the christian/pagan church.

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