Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413707 Jan 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
That's ok Mike, buddy up with the SDA's, JW's and holy rolling pentecostals, they believe in the 'fictional' Jesus too, but at least they hate the Catholic Church just like you, so at least you got that goin' for you....
There is trouble in paradise. Catholics should all be well aware of what is really going on in their church and not just what is going on in their little parish. Everything at the top slides down hill at some point and ends up at the parish level.

The big picture is most important.......

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/vati...



Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413708 Jan 7, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
For the last 3 1/2 years ANTHONY, sister REGINA M., HOJO, CLAY,etc have condemned anyone talking about abuse scandals in their church and DENYING they occured..........but lately they too have all collectively got on the ABUSE BAND WAGON and are now trying to equal the playing field by claiming protestant clergy are as bad as catholic clergy when it comes to scandals.
UNBELIEVABLE!
It's called rationalization.

Somehow being no worse than the Baptists is supposed to mean something.(Hardly, in light of the topic of this board.)

They just don't get it -- IT'S THE COVER-UP.

But they can't admit it, because deep down inside -- WE ALL KNOW that no self-respecting God would want His name associated with a...

... DECADES-LONG,

... WORLDWIDE,

... INSTITUTIONAL COVER-UP.

Jesus must bristle at the title of this board.

I hear Mary is really miffed.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413709 Jan 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
If everybody else in the world is 'doing it', it would not make it right for ANY of God's people to do so.
Everybody in the world isn't doing it, but the teachers of some faiths, have obviously set very poor examples of themselves, and how is anyone suppose to believe anything they say when they fail to correct their own problems when they arise?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/vati...

MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413710 Jan 7, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
It's called rationalization.
Somehow being no worse than the Baptists is supposed to mean something.(Hardly, in light of the topic of this board.)
They just don't get it -- IT'S THE COVER-UP.
But they can't admit it, because deep down inside -- WE ALL KNOW that no self-respecting God would want His name associated with a...
... DECADES-LONG,
... WORLDWIDE,
... INSTITUTIONAL COVER-UP.
Jesus must bristle at the title of this board.
I hear Mary is really miffed.
Everytime one of these stories below hits the media and thousands of people read them, another couple chunks of squeeky clean mortar falls from the church. Soon just bad cement will remain and down she comes.

Do bad things it catches up to you in this life. Do good things, good things will happen to you.

Its obvious the catholic church is now in the bad KARMA phase.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/vati...

......and catholics would rather blame us for reporting these problems, but fear standing up to fix the real problems.



“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413711 Jan 7, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Everybody in the world isn't doing it, but the teachers of some faiths, have obviously set very poor examples of themselves, and how is anyone suppose to believe anything they say when they fail to correct their own problems when they arise?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/vati...
The main difference in denominations is simply those who oversee them. Thankfully, I am in a group that disciplines such failures.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413712 Jan 7, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
As a true follower of Jesus Christ, along with my other Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ, who know, believe, adhere to and comprehend the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His (historically and biblically proven One True Church, I will repeat what you and other Protestant, atheists and agnostics still do not seem to understand..... It is the difference between TRUTH of Christian doctrine vs personal conduct, The Church teaches that is is wrong to kill, commit adultery, rape, etc. however, that does not guarantee that a Catholic (or a Protestant) will never kill, rape or commit sin, does it!! Just because a Catholic kills someone, doesn't negate the TRUTH of the Churches teaching that we are not suppose to kill. The issue here is DOCTRINE VS CONDUCT! You keep harping about the conduct of certain members of the Catholic Church in the middle ages and in the 20th century regarding abuse. The Church was built upon the blood of martyrs who were murdered for their faith in Christ. Saints, Popes and Bishops all stood firm in their commitment to Christ even though they knew that it meant certain death. In addition, Protestants have also killed Catholics, however, I don't judge either Protestants or Catholics upon the CONDUCT of some of their members. I judge them on whether they teach the TRUTH ion accordance with Sacred Scripture and tradition. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE!!! No one is denying that the Catholic Church (or Protestants) have sinners. This is precisely why Christ established His Church---"to save sinners"! Just because some of its members (stray and sin) doesn't mean that it was not founded, initiated and established by Jesus Christ to teach His infallible TRUTH. If you are going to the Catholic Church by the CONDUCT then you should "throw out" your bible, because (every one) of its authors were sinners. Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said "I am the worst of sinners". This only shows how duplicitous, warped and confused that Protestants are in their ingrained, distorted and perverted, anti-catholic thinking
HOJO, 90% of your catholic doctrine was taught by men who have slaughter millions of People or stood by and allowed it to happen.
They have encouraged or allowed the rape and murder of children some very young.
David was a repenter as Preston said, he made no excuse for what he did, your present Pope lied about the abuse in the catholic church.
He stated as an arguement that in some countries child rape was allowed.
Does that sound like a man of God no. You should read up on some of the men who sat in the Popes chair HOJO.
You may not have like the protestant churches but I am afraid you have jumped from the frying pan into the fire.
Peter was a Holy Man of God, he was murdered by the Roman's church which became the Roman Catholic Church.
Because he would not stop preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ He told the whole truth.
Paul also was killed for the same reason by the Catholic church.
HOJO, I am glad you love the Lord, of course most catholic truly do, but you are mistaken the catholic church's foundation was not built on the teachings of Jesus Christ.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413713 Jan 7, 2013
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Huge institutions, struggling with corruption and suffering historic crises of legitimacy, are becoming all too commonplace these days. Could the same fate befall the largest Christian denomination in the world?

Recently, Catholics -- including Chris Matthews -- have worried that the power of government could destroy the authority of the Church. At a time when institutional corruption worldwide has become a strong source of disillusionment and anger, concerns are growing that the Vatican is in danger of losing its own authority.
With a host of scandals and no hope of a bailout, the Vatican is working to regain its footing by showing a willingness to play by modern rules. For example, the Holy See has hired a Fox News correspondent to run its communications shop.

Is a more corporate approach the Catholic Church's silver bullet?

Can the Vatican right its ship without radically reforming its power structure, or is it time for sweeping change at the top?

What happens to religion if churches are perceived as just as corrupt as big institutions in the secular world?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413714 Jan 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
That's ok Mike, buddy up with the SDA's, JW's and holy rolling pentecostals, they believe in the 'fictional' Jesus too, but at least they hate the Catholic Church just like you, so at least you got that goin' for you....

This one is FUNNY! Only last week I read that there is a huge Pentecostal movement in the CC. I should have posted it.

Maybe He will roll some of the starch out of them...
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413715 Jan 7, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
Best quotes from Dogma, IMHO.
"Trust the Catholics to unmake existence."
The Muse.
"Crisis of faith over?" The 13th Apostle.
"I think I'm now burdened with an over abundance." Bethany.
Bartleby - "You know how I felt? Righteous, justified, eager even..."
Loki - "You all right man? You're eyes are kind of..."
Bartleby - "My eyes are open, for the first time I get it. When that little innocent girl let her mission slip, I had an epiphany. In the beginning it was just us and Him, Angels and God..."
Loki - "Ah ha..."
Bartleby - "...Then He created humans, ours was designed to be a life of servitude and worship and bowing and scraping and adoration! He gave them more than He ever gave us! He gave them a choice! They can choose to acknowledge God or they can choose to ignore Him! All this time we've been down here, I've felt the absence of the Divine Presence and it's pained me as I'm sure it must've pained you, and why? Because of the way He made us! Had we been given free will, we could choose to ignore the pain, like they do... But NO! We're servants!"
Loki - "Ok... Well, all I'm sayin' here is that one of us may need a little nap..."
Bartleby - "Wake up! Humans have besmirched everything He's bestowed upon them! They were given paradise, they threw it away! They were given this planet, they've destroyed it! They were favoured best among all his endeavours and some of them, don't even believe He exists! And in spite of it all, He has shown them infinite f#cking patience, at every turn. What about us? I asked you, once, to lay down the sword, cause I felt sorry for them, what was the result? Our expulsion from paradise! Where was His infinite f#cking patience then?!?! It's not right! It's not fair! We've paid our debt, don't you think it's time? Don't you think it's time we went home?....and to do that, I, I think we might have to dispatch our, our would be dispatchers..."
Loki - "Wait...wait..wait! Kill them?!! You're talking about the last scion for Christ's sake, and what about Jay and Bob? I mean, those guys were all right.."
Bartleby - "Don't, don't my friend, don't let your sympathies get the best of you, they did me once. Scion or not, she's just a human, and by passing through that arch, our sins are forgiven...No harm, no foul."
Loki - "My God. I've heard a rant like this before..."
Bartleby - "What did you say?"
Loki - "I've heard a rant like this before."
Bartleby - "Don't you f ing do that to me..."
Loki - "You sound like the morning star."
B "You shut your f ing mouth!"
L "You do! You sound like Lucifer man! You've f ing lost it! You're not talking about going home Bartleby! You're talkin' about f cking WAR on God!!! Well, f ck that! I have seen what happens to the proud, when they take on the throne. I'm going back to Wisconsin."
God - "Awww, Bartleby, was Wisconsin that bad?"
Bethany - "I think God is dead."
Jewish Doctor - "The sign of a true Catholic."
Blessings <3
you really have a potty mouth why don't you take it were others would appreciated it more

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#413716 Jan 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
How can such a filthy mouth even talk about church? Of course, you said that you liked to ---with ministers. I knew a man like that once. He scared the wits out of a few preachers. When I told him what he was doing...and why he was doing it, he was the one who was scared.
God is not mocked...
Who's mocking God??? What filthy mouth??? The movie characters'?
I'd like to what with ministers? Where did I say this?
I'm not a man and it's just a movie, yes a rude, offensive (to people who feel offended by movies), very funny movie, but with a wonderful message underneath. Chill. God knows my heart, your judgement means naught, how abusive you are.
Peace, love and joyfulness <3

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#413717 Jan 7, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
you really have a potty mouth why don't you take it were others would appreciated it more
How do I have a 'potty mouth'? You do know what a "quote" is don't you? If that's all you picked up then I'm sad for you. Besides, since when is a 'potty mouth' not appreciated on topix anyway? Have you read some of the posts here? Ppppffftttbbbb.....
<3

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413718 Jan 7, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's mocking God??? What filthy mouth??? The movie characters'?
I'd like to what with ministers? Where did I say this?
I'm not a man and it's just a movie, yes a rude, offensive (to people who feel offended by movies), very funny movie, but with a wonderful message underneath. Chill. God knows my heart, your judgement means naught, how abusive you are.
Peace, love and joyfulness <3
So it's alright to repeat some junk you heard on a movie?
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413719 Jan 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
The main difference in denominations is simply those who oversee them. Thankfully, I am in a group that disciplines such failures.
I never gave you any of these negative feedbacks, it was probably somebody named cowboy and other catholics.

Lack of discipline is what is going to bring down "too big to fail" religions. It has been going on too long.

Its a good thing your in the right group. Keep up the good work.







MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413720 Jan 7, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
It's called rationalization.
Somehow being no worse than the Baptists is supposed to mean something.(Hardly, in light of the topic of this board.)
They just don't get it -- IT'S THE COVER-UP.
But they can't admit it, because deep down inside -- WE ALL KNOW that no self-respecting God would want His name associated with a...
... DECADES-LONG,
... WORLDWIDE,
... INSTITUTIONAL COVER-UP.
Jesus must bristle at the title of this board.
I hear Mary is really miffed.
FREE MIND says..........Jesus must bristle at the title of this board.

I hear Mary is really miffed.

MICHAEL says......what has the Holy Spirit been doing? Isn't he suppose to be guiding the church?

....just wait until God the Father finds out...
truth

Perth, Australia

#413721 Jan 7, 2013
its took me after altar..white dress..
Why you prosecuted me?
Who do Art Lord?
He art every heart.
Prosecutor is drunken with blade of saints.
White robes is Jesus Christ righteousness.
When they rise from death they are not married
they are angels in Heaven.
truth

Perth, Australia

#413722 Jan 7, 2013
Living God.
Alive God+
Powerful God+
Immortal God+

Immortal soul under Altar=CROSS

We are save trough Cross.

I sleep on floor and pray front of Cross.
Pray and represent your prayers front of Cross.
truth

Perth, Australia

#413723 Jan 7, 2013
Woman why you cry?
she is wife of many

o really who is talking..
Saul why you prosecuted me?
Who do ART Lord?
He Art every heart.
Heart..upon heart is 3x roses
love which overpower death
Alive God+
Immortal soul which wait under Altar.CROSS
Do you pray front of CROSS?
Don't be afraid represent yourself trough prayers.
You are not wife of many..your soul is immortal under Altar where Alive God+ rise dead they are not married in Heaven they are Angel.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413724 Jan 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
The main difference in denominations is simply those who oversee them. Thankfully, I am in a group that disciplines such failures.
When I was young catholic, priests taught us that we could NEVER receive the sacrament of the eucharist with sins on our souls, yet these so called holy men in great numbers have done just that. Molesting clergy some of them habitual, gave themselves holy communion at every mass they said without themselves going to confession/repentance. The clergy who didn't abuse never disciplined the ones who did these crimes, by telling them to do the right thing and turn themselves into the authorities to have justice served.

What is the point in going to a priest in the confessional if the confessional priest isn't going to do the right thing and advise the abusive priest to turn himself in to authorities? Giving a penance of 5 hail marys and 3 our fathers isn't justice. Its just an appeasement of the church.

It is no different than a boy throwing a ball through a neighbors window. A good parent would instruct their child to go to the neighbor, apologize and pay restitution. Its obvious it doesn't work that way in the catholic church, and its obvious today the results we see. A church riddled with NEVER ENDING scandals, because the right thing was never done. The right thing that they taught us to do, but the right thing they never practiced themselves.



“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413725 Jan 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it's protestantism, by virtue of it's constant splintering, bickering, and mauling of scripture that Jesus was referring to as tares. Jesus didn't found thousands of competing protesting sects, He founded one, true Church. The Catholic Church.

~~~

There will be a day ..and (I believe it is very soon)

that you are in for a very rude awakening.

YOU CAN PRODUCE NO SCRIPTURES FROM THE BIBLE TO PROVE WHAT YOUR CHURCH TEACHES TEACH...

THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN SOLA SCRIPTURA CAN.

Even if what you believe had credibility (AND I DO NOT BELIEVE IT DOES) we that believe the Bible will be judged by THE BIBLE

YOU THAT HAVE NOT READ THE BOOK WILL FAIL THE TEST,..

BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO DO YOUR HOME WORK...

THE APOSTAL PAUL DID NOT BOW TO PETER

Gal 2:6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat,(whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

Gal 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

NOTE-->

Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas/PETER and John,

--> who seemed to be pillars, <--

perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Gal 2:10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

---

YOUR R CC HAS NO FRANCHISE NO MONOPOLY OVER CHRISTIANITY ON THE EARTH
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413726 Jan 7, 2013
Why so many scandals in the catholic church? Because the church leaders who did bad things, were never instructed to do the right things. The good clergy never instructed the bad clergy to apologize to victims. Never instructed them to go to police authorities to serve justice.

Catholic church leaders ALWAYS instruct catholics to do the right thing, or its a sin, but its obvious these rules do not apply to church leaders.

The proof? Scandal after Scandal, and no one to blame but themselves.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/vati...

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