Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413665 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh--so now you claim that you are no longer a sinner "
chiming in:

HOJO says......so now you claim that you are no longer a sinner.

MICHAEL says....AH! it bothers you that he is not a sinner anymore, and you still are?

I myself haven't sinned in years, maybe longer!






MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413666 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Bring up the title: Protestant "Church abuse equals or exceeds
Catholic Church" and you will find at least 2 dozen websites including the links I posted earlier refuting your anti-catholic garbage!!!
...You spend way too much time checking out BOGUS sex abuse websites. The authorities should be checking your computer. ITS UNBELIEVABLE!

Get a life!

BUSTED!

Loren Eberly

Delaware, OH

#413667 Jan 6, 2013
School Curriculum:

Graduating students with DA degrees that cannot read, write, think for themselves, or understand that USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Demands the majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; reelects Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Obama to avoid fiscal cliff. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#413668 Jan 6, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
chiming in:
HOJO says......so now you claim that you are no longer a sinner.
MICHAEL says....AH! it bothers you that he is not a sinner anymore, and you still are?
I myself haven't sinned in years, maybe longer!
Damn.Seems as if.....I can't go a day....without a sin......you must be a hell of a lot better than I....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413669 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh--so now you claim that you are no longer a sinner just because you are born again. Where does it say this in the bible!!! NOWHERE
I now concur with every Catholic and Protestant who has had to put up with your "condemning, and judgemental ministry against those of us who have a (daily)personal relationship with Jesus Christ----AND----- who have correctly labeled you a "hypocrite"
~~~

Having trouble with comprehensive reading are you?

I did not say I did not sin..

I said I am a Christan saved by grace.

If you were a born again Christan you would understand what I wrote.

When I BECAME a part of the body/BRIDE of Christ I took on HIS NAME..

AND HIS NAME IS NOT SINNER.

JUST AS WHEN MY WIFE AND I MARRIED SHE TOOK MY NAME.

It don't take a Rocket scientist to figure it out...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413670 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Having trouble with comprehensive reading are you?
I did not say I did not sin..
I said I am a Christan saved by grace.
If you were a born again Christan you would understand what I wrote.
When I BECAME a part of the body/BRIDE of Christ I took on HIS NAME..
AND HIS NAME IS NOT SINNER.
JUST AS WHEN MY WIFE AND I MARRIED SHE TOOK MY NAME.
It don't take a Rocket scientist to figure it out...
~~~

The Bible does say..-->

1Jn_5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

1Jn_5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

1Jn_5:18 We know that -->whosoever is born of God sinneth not; <--

but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

argue with the above ...

Since: Jan 13

Perth, Australia

#413671 Jan 6, 2013
Elizabeth wrote:
As someone who is catholic and was raised in the faith, I find this truly offensive that the Pope would make a statement like this. It is making me seriously consider leaving the church. As long as popele believe in God and the holy trinity, why does it matter whether they believe as catholics, methodists, lutherans, etc? I think Benedict has gone too far with this statement and I do believe it is going to hurt the catholic church in the long run.
I am an atheist. Many of my friends are practicing Catholics and they all agree that the heirarchy(eg Pell) are completely out of touch with what the average catholic wants in a church. I suggest you change your church from within if they don't they will not exist. Good luck
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#413672 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~

When I BECAME a part of the body/BRIDE of Christ I took on HIS NAME..
If you were (actually) a part of the body/Bride of Christ, your Christianity would be manifested in Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church--which IS (in fact) the Bride of Christ!! You may claim to be part of the body of Christ, which is nothing more than Protestant (bible only) half-truth Christianity--but NOT the Bride of Christ.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#413673 Jan 6, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
HOJO says.......Protestant "Church abuse equals or exceeds
Catholic Church".
MICHAEL says.....More LIES from HOJO. Haven't you got anything better to do with your time then surf the web ALL DAY LONG looking for bogus websites about half truths, and heresies to discredit people. Get a life!
BUSTED!.......again.
Checking out "bogus" anti-catholic websites is (your expertise) Michael! In fact, you have a monopoly on anti-catholic "junk articles" and liberal "hack" writers, whose main purpose is to distort, manipulate and twist the truth of what the Catholic Church actually believes and teaches.

DOUBLE BUSTED and DOUBLE UNBELIEVABLE

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413674 Jan 6, 2013
Elizabeth wrote:
As someone who is catholic and was raised in the faith, I find this truly offensive that the Pope would make a statement like this. It is making me seriously consider leaving the church.(((( As long as popele believe in God and the holy trinity, why does it matter whether they believe as catholics, methodists, lutherans, etc?)))) I think Benedict has gone too far with this statement and I do believe it is going to hurt the catholic church in the long run.

Note the question.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413675 Jan 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> I've always been able to learn from others.
There are a lot of great talkers, but very few great listeners Waco.
I will only tell you one thing pray and as God for wisdom, and a teachable Spirit.
I learned a lesson I will never forget, God uses the people you think less liking to be used of God.
My husband and I were walking one day and a little man he was dirty and in need of a bath.
I thought he was a wino looking for change, he looked right at me and keep coming in my direction I tried to side step him, he just smiled and gave me a rolled up piece of paper with a Bible scripture on it , Phil 4:13 I can do all things through Christ Jesus who strenghtens me.
If I had of walked away from that man I would have missed out on a wonderful Blessing , God let me see Him in that dear man regardless what the outside looked like he was beautiful.
People when they ask me have you seen God I can say yes.
And God spoke to me through this dear man.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413676 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Checking out "bogus" anti-catholic websites is (your expertise) Michael! In fact, you have a monopoly on anti-catholic "junk articles" and liberal "hack" writers, whose main purpose is to distort, manipulate and twist the truth of what the Catholic Church actually believes and teaches.
DOUBLE BUSTED and DOUBLE UNBELIEVABLE
HOJO who are you busting now, not everyone is going to love us for who we are.
Has anything good come out of the catholic church to make us believe it is the one true church of Jesus Christ.
If it is God's Church did hHe command The Pope to kill all who wouldn't side with the catholic teachings, Did God give the command not only to kill, them but to torment them as well and inflict as much pain as possible.
Did God till the Pope it is alright to rape little children and beat them if they told.
And if Peter was the first Pope I can a sure you, he would never have agreed to this in Gods Holy Spirit Church .
So your church is not of God I have given you what I believe is the reason why it isn't.
Now you tell me why you believe it is. OK

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413677 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
If you were (actually) a part of the body/Bride of Christ, your Christianity would be manifested in Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church--which IS (in fact) the Bride of Christ!! You may claim to be part of the body of Christ, which is nothing more than Protestant (bible only) half-truth Christianity--but NOT the Bride of Christ.
~~~

If I were a part of your One Truly Apostate Catholic Church--which IS (in fact) a part of the of anti-Christ...I would be gambling the fate of my never dying soul upon conjecture fables and fabricated fallacies as your are...

I will take the scriptures that JESUS TAUGHT...THE APOSTLES for my rule of conduct...

Jesus said

Luk_24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Luk 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

Joh_5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

JESUS NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ROME...PAPAL SUCCESSION OR ANY THE REST OF YOUR FABLES.

The Apostle Paule told Timothy...

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;


2Ti 4:2 ---> Preach the word; <--

be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

He knew there would blind individuals such as you that would come along ...
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#413678 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
If I were a part of your One Truly Apostate Catholic Church--which IS (in fact) a part of the of anti-Christ...I would be gambling the fate of my never dying soul upon conjecture fables and fabricated fallacies as your are...
I will take the scriptures that JESUS TAUGHT...THE APOSTLES for my rule of conduct...
..
The FACT is that (every Catholic on this forum, including all 1.168 Billion Catholics throughout the world, follow, adheres to and believes in the Saving Grace of Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church, AND--- has (for over 2000 years).... Each and every day at Mass, we accept Christ as Our personal Savior, and "take the (TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Scriptures as Jesus taught, not only our "rule of conduct" but for our personal faith, Salvation and His Sacrificial gift in the Eucharist, the TRUE body and blood of Christ (John 6:47-59) as the FULLNESS of the Faith and the FULLNESS of the Truth....... Unfortunately for you Confrinting, your distorted and perverted "personal opinionated" bible only heretical preaching has polluted your mind, heart and soul with so much anti-catholic hate and hostility that your half-truth, half-heresy Christianity has "deaden your spirit to comprehend the TRUTH of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#413679 Jan 6, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
HOJO who are you busting now, not everyone is going to love us for who we are.
Has anything good come out of the catholic church to make us believe it is the one true church of Jesus Christ.
If it is God's Church did hHe command The Pope to kill all who wouldn't side with the catholic teachings, Did God give the command not only to kill, them but to torment them as well and inflict as much pain as possible.
Did God till the Pope it is alright to rape little children and beat them if they told.
And if Peter was the first Pope I can a sure you, he would never have agreed to this in Gods Holy Spirit Church .
So your church is not of God I have given you what I believe is the reason why it isn't.
Now you tell me why you believe it is. OK
As a true follower of Jesus Christ, along with my other Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ, who know, believe, adhere to and comprehend the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His (historically and biblically proven One True Church, I will repeat what you and other Protestant, atheists and agnostics still do not seem to understand..... It is the difference between TRUTH of Christian doctrine vs personal conduct, The Church teaches that is is wrong to kill, commit adultery, rape, etc. however, that does not guarantee that a Catholic (or a Protestant) will never kill, rape or commit sin, does it!! Just because a Catholic kills someone, doesn't negate the TRUTH of the Churches teaching that we are not suppose to kill. The issue here is DOCTRINE VS CONDUCT! You keep harping about the conduct of certain members of the Catholic Church in the middle ages and in the 20th century regarding abuse. The Church was built upon the blood of martyrs who were murdered for their faith in Christ. Saints, Popes and Bishops all stood firm in their commitment to Christ even though they knew that it meant certain death. In addition, Protestants have also killed Catholics, however, I don't judge either Protestants or Catholics upon the CONDUCT of some of their members. I judge them on whether they teach the TRUTH ion accordance with Sacred Scripture and tradition. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE!!! No one is denying that the Catholic Church (or Protestants) have sinners. This is precisely why Christ established His Church---"to save sinners"! Just because some of its members (stray and sin) doesn't mean that it was not founded, initiated and established by Jesus Christ to teach His infallible TRUTH. If you are going to the Catholic Church by the CONDUCT then you should "throw out" your bible, because (every one) of its authors were sinners. Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said "I am the worst of sinners". This only shows how duplicitous, warped and confused that Protestants are in their ingrained, distorted and perverted, anti-catholic thinking

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#413680 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Ones man's joke is anther's insult..
Defending your insulting joke..is now your problem...
you posted your chosen insulting remark, now you add more insults..
just how far does a person have to go down... in order to grow up to
your infantile position?
No, I don't have to do a dam thing that you say. You may run your husband like that you, but you don't rule over me.
truth

Perth, Australia

#413681 Jan 6, 2013
but you not say..about altar 3000 years ago
altar with 4 horns

Are you for sure is that catholic altar?

PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT BEAST ALTAR CONFE

IS THAT YEW ALTAR OR CATHOLIC ALTAR
http://www.google.com.au/search...
idi amin dada

Warwick, RI

#413682 Jan 7, 2013
truth wrote:
but you not say..about altar 3000 years ago
altar with 4 horns

Are you for sure is that catholic altar?

PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT BEAST ALTAR CONFE

IS THAT YEW ALTAR OR CATHOLIC ALTAR
http://www.google.com.au/search...
Omg you make even Idi Amin Dada seem sane.

His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, and Conqueror of the British Empire, in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular
truth

Perth, Australia

#413683 Jan 7, 2013
N iii R
Almighty
upon heart stay 3x roses
love which is winner over death
-beneficent
-omnipotent
-holy will

every priest is not holy priest remember that for ever..tv priest

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413684 Jan 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
The REAL Church is invisible. It is made up of those truly Born Again individuals who have accepted Jesus' sacrifice for them. He said that without being born again, one cannot 'see' the Kingdom of God. One cannot 'join' it by shaking a hand, or being received into a denominational group.
The Lord knows His own, and there are some in many different groups. That is what makes it invisible. No one denominational 'church' can lay claim to His church.
He doesn't make it hard. He paid our debt for us, and allows us to choose to answer His call...hojo:
Interesting idea that you say about the Church that Jesus instituted and initiated in the bible-- however-- it is "nothing more" than your own (personal opinion) which does not (in any way, shape or form) coincide or parallel with True Apostolic Church History that has been recorded for over 2000 years...... Throughout the centuries, Apologist historian authors and writers "both Catholic and Protestant" do not agree" with your "made up conclusions". If you would take time to "study" the truth of true church history, you would not be making "ridiculous statements" about an "invisible church" which does not exist!!!! JETHRO:you say it does not exist? can you prove that? of course not,there is no corroborating evidence to support the theory,just like your belief that the catholic church is the true apostolic church,you can not prove it,there is nothing to support the theory,it is a creation of mans,there history of horrors alone proves that in no way shape or form the C.C. is the church in the book of mathew which you rely on to support your theory,UNLESS you can show a passage that states jesus stating a name of his church,no one can say they are the true church,show corroboration,you can't,you rely on a man in a fancy outfit that he is telling you the truth,and he can not even prove that the C.C. is the true church.you do not have apostolic succession, so it is impossible to have a succesive apostolic church.the book of timothy debunks their claim,only one person can mediate between man and god and that is jesus. the pope is no one devine he is just the head of a man made church.he is chosen by men not by any devine person or spirit.no church on earth is the true church if one exists.

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