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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413628 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
HOJO My computer says that none of your three sites exist.???
WAIT A MINUTE!..... thats strange, so does my computer!

I knew it!

HOJO is BUSTED......again!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#413629 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with you, Free Mind, and other bible only "hypocrites" is that all of you (non-thinking Protestants) deal in COLD HARD "IRRATIONAL" FACTS.
"None of you" still do not seem to understand the difference between TRUTH of Christian doctrine vs personal conduct, The Church teaches that is is wrong to kill, commit adultery, rape, etc. however, that does not guarantee that a Catholic (or a Protestant) will never kill, rape or commit sin, does it!! Just because a Catholic kills someone, doesn't negate the TRUTH of the Churches teaching that we are not suppose to kill. The issue here is DOCTRINE VS CONDUCT! You keep harping about the conduct of certain members of the Catholic Church in the middle ages and in the 20th century regarding abuse. The Church was built upon the blood of martyrs who were murdered for their faith in Christ. Saints, Popes and Bishops all stood firm in their commitment to Christ even though they knew that it meant certain death. In addition, Protestants have also killed Catholics, however, I don't judge either Protestants or Catholics upon the CONDUCT of some of their members. I judge them on whether they teach the TRUTH ion accordance with Sacred Scripture and tradition. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE!!! No one is denying that the Catholic Church (or Protestants) have sinners. This is precisely why Christ established His Church---"to save sinners"! Just because some of its members (stray and sin) doesn't mean that it was not founded, initiated and established by Jesus Christ to teach His infallible TRUTH. If you are going to the Catholic Church by the CONDUCT then you should "throw out" your bible, because (every one) of its authors were sinners. Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said "I am the worst of sinners". This only shows how duplicitous, warped and confused that Protestants are in their ingrained, distorted and perverted, anti-catholic thinking

Surely you wouldn't say that the sins of the prophets were proof that it's OK with God to sin? Those men did fall into temptation, but they didn't lay there. Paul persecuted the church, but after he met Jesus his whole life was turned around. He gave his life fighting for the church he had persecuted in ignorance.

The Bible graciously shares the failures of these men, so that we can understand the mercy and forgiveness of God...but we should never think that continual sin is winked at by God. Nor should we think that habitual sinners should be priests of God's church.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#413630 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with you, Free Mind, and other bible only "hypocrites" is that all of you (non-thinking Protestants) deal in COLD HARD "IRRATIONAL" FACTS.
"None of you" still do not seem to understand the difference between TRUTH of Christian doctrine vs personal conduct, The Church teaches that is is wrong to kill, commit adultery, rape, etc. however, that does not guarantee that a Catholic (or a Protestant) will never kill, rape or commit sin, does it!! Just because a Catholic kills someone, doesn't negate the TRUTH of the Churches teaching that we are not suppose to kill. The issue here is DOCTRINE VS CONDUCT! You keep harping about the conduct of certain members of the Catholic Church in the middle ages and in the 20th century regarding abuse. The Church was built upon the blood of martyrs who were murdered for their faith in Christ. Saints, Popes and Bishops all stood firm in their commitment to Christ even though they knew that it meant certain death. In addition, Protestants have also killed Catholics, however, I don't judge either Protestants or Catholics upon the CONDUCT of some of their members. I judge them on whether they teach the TRUTH ion accordance with Sacred Scripture and tradition. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE!!! No one is denying that the Catholic Church (or Protestants) have sinners. This is precisely why Christ established His Church---"to save sinners"! Just because some of its members (stray and sin) doesn't mean that it was not founded, initiated and established by Jesus Christ to teach His infallible TRUTH. If you are going to the Catholic Church by the CONDUCT then you should "throw out" your bible, because (every one) of its authors were sinners. Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said "I am the worst of sinners". This only shows how duplicitous, warped and confused that Protestants are in their ingrained, distorted and perverted, anti-catholic thinking
HOJO says..... You keep harping about the conduct of certain members of the Catholic Church.

MICHAEL says.....$3 frickken BILLION in lawsuit settlements. Are you proud of that?

Do you know who is paying outside of some insurance claims? YOU!! Every dollar you put on the collection plate a huge vaccuum cleaner is sucking a big chunk of that to pay for the victims. Not the priests or the bishops, YOU, you who molested no one(I guess) and you are paying and they are not.

Keep paying sucka!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#413631 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
RESPONSE
xxxxxxx
WHILE IT IS AN AXIOM THAT JESUS CAME AND DIED TO SAVE SINNERS..
BUT
have you NEVER noticed something different about those that you have
named above..and your ONE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH...
AFTER THEY REPENTED AND RECEIVED FORGIVENESS,...THEY WENT OUT OF THE
SINNING BUSINESS...
WHEN I GOT BORN AGAIN I TOOK THE SHINGLE DOWN...
Instead of being a sinner saved by grace...I AM A CHRISTIAN SAVED BY GRACE...
I SERVE A DIFFERENT MASTER...
Col_1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
I have been BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
I AM A SON OF GOD.
Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
I AM A NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST JESUS..
2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
MY HEART HAS BEEN CIRCUMCISED..
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Php_3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
I HAVE THE WITNESS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD...THAT i AM A CHRISTIAN
Rom_8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
AS A GENTILE...I HAVE BEEN GRAFTED IN..
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then,
--> The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
I AM ESPOUSED TO JESUS AS A PART OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST...AWAITING THE COMING OF MY LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST..
2Co_11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for
-->I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. <--
~~~

HOW DOES/DID ALL THE ABOVE TAKE PLACE...

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#413632 Jan 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> It'll get more exciting when you leave!
You may be right. I have been here over 3 plus years to long and done expierenced every issue that these folks have to discuss. Maybe you can add something new to the pot but I doubt it.
marge

Ames, IA

#413633 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
The Invisible church CANNOT BE SEEN except by those who are 'born' into it!
There are some in many denominations...and when you meet one on the street, their face may be unknown to you, but you will soon find that both of you LOVE THE LORD, AND HIS WORD.
YEP!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#413634 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
HOW DOES/DID ALL THE ABOVE TAKE PLACE...
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
~~~

One can receive Jesus Christ any where He is willing to bow his heart..

and acknowledge that he is a sinner..and ask God for forgiveness,

The dying thief received Jesus ..ALL OF HIS PAST SINS WAS ERADICATED

AND HE WAS PARDONED..EXONERATED HE FACED DEATH AS ONE THAT HAD NEVER SINNED. while nailed to a cross..

The idea that one has to go through all the calisthenics that are

required by some that would attempt to control THE GATES OF HEAVE or

THAT THEY HAD TO FOLLOW A CERTAIN Sequence

WAS BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER

over and over again in the Bible, by Jesus as well as His apostles

God don't quibble about sequence nor ritual..

He just want's you to GET IT DONE...Make peace with Him so that He can lavish His love upon you...

AFTER ALL YOU WERE MADE FOR HIS PLEASURE...AND HE LOVES YOU MORE THAT YOU WOULD EVER KNOW.

Rev 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne,

saying,

Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things,

and -->for thy pleasure they are and were created. <--

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#413635 Jan 6, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>You may be right. I have been here over 3 plus years to long and done expierenced every issue that these folks have to discuss. Maybe you can add something new to the pot but I doubt it.
~~~

JUST CONTINUE TO TELL THE OLD OLD STORY "OF JESUS AND HIS LOVE,"
and leave the rest up to the HOLY SPIRIT..to take it from there..

G I F.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#413636 Jan 6, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>You may be right. I have been here over 3 plus years to long and done expierenced every issue that these folks have to discuss. Maybe you can add something new to the pot but I doubt it.
Wait a couple of days.I usually wind up offending everyone with a pulse, and pick up a couple of stalkers in the process.Three years IS A LONG time though, I don't blame you for being bored.Everyone here seems to be pretty well locked in to their opinions.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413637 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with you, Free Mind, and other bible only "hypocrites" is that all of you (non-thinking Protestants) deal in COLD HARD "IRRATIONAL" FACTS.
"None of you" still do not seem to understand the difference between TRUTH of Christian doctrine vs personal conduct, The Church teaches that is is wrong to kill, commit adultery, rape, etc. however, that does not guarantee that a Catholic (or a Protestant) will never kill, rape or commit sin, does it!! Just because a Catholic kills someone, doesn't negate the TRUTH of the Churches teaching that we are not suppose to kill. The issue here is DOCTRINE VS CONDUCT! You keep harping about the conduct of certain members of the Catholic Church in the middle ages and in the 20th century regarding abuse. The Church was built upon the blood of martyrs who were murdered for their faith in Christ. Saints, Popes and Bishops all stood firm in their commitment to Christ even though they knew that it meant certain death. In addition, Protestants have also killed Catholics, however, I don't judge either Protestants or Catholics upon the CONDUCT of some of their members. I judge them on whether they teach the TRUTH ion accordance with Sacred Scripture and tradition. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE!!! No one is denying that the Catholic Church (or Protestants) have sinners. This is precisely why Christ established His Church---"to save sinners"! Just because some of its members (stray and sin) doesn't mean that it was not founded, initiated and established by Jesus Christ to teach His infallible TRUTH. If you are going to the Catholic Church by the CONDUCT then you should "throw out" your bible, because (every one) of its authors were sinners. Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said "I am the worst of sinners". This only shows how duplicitous, warped and confused that Protestants are in their ingrained, distorted and perverted, anti-catholic thinking
Sorry Hojo, I am not any kind of Protestant. I am a simple deist. But I do believe in many ideals which grew out of the Protestant Reformation.

As do you. That's why you continue to live in, and love the USA.

So why does it bother you so much when I defend those ideals.

The simple ... logical ... rational ... FACT is that it is very, very unlikely that Jesus had anything to do with the LARGEST CHILD SEX-ABUSE COVER-UP IN WORLD HISTORY.

It is very, very unlikely that Jesus appointed the perpetrator of the LARGEST CHILD SEX-ABUSE COVER-UP IN WORLD HISTORY.

No self-respecting God would want His name associated with the LARGEST CHILD SEX-ABUSE COVER-UP IN WORLD HISTORY.

The same goes for church-owned banks.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413638 Jan 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> WHAT IS THE NAME of this thread? By the way, David was not merely an adulterer, he was a pre-mediated murderer.No church is blameless, all sin,but the Catholic Church has no monopoly on being the"true"church.
Yet he was a man after God's own heart. What does that tell you.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413639 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
OK!! So now digest this!!!
Protestant clergy abuse equals or exceeds Catholic clergy
dannimos.wordpress.com/2008/06/20jprotestant-...
suite101.com/article/sex-abuse-in-the-protest...
Protestant ministers have more pedophiles than Catholic clery
bluepanjest.net/2010/10/14/11419protestant-mi...
The truth is that your mind has been "cluttered" with anti-catholic (junk articles) that has also polluted your heart and soul!!!
Stop being a clown. None of the links you gave exist.

Simple moral logic.....

It is very, very unlikely that Jesus appointed the perpetrator of the LARGEST CHILD SEX-ABUSE COVER-UP IN WORLD HISTORY.

No self-respecting God would want his name associated with the LARGEST CHILD SEX-ABUSE COVER-UP IN WORLD HISTORY.

The same applies to scandal-ridden church banks.

Say hello to moral logic.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#413640 Jan 6, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Hojo, I am not any kind of Protestant. I am a simple deist. But I do believe in many ideals which grew out of the Protestant Reformation.
As do you. That's why you continue to live in, and love the USA.
So why does it bother you so much when I defend those ideals.
The simple ... logical ... rational ... FACT is that it is very, very unlikely that Jesus had anything to do with the LARGEST CHILD SEX-ABUSE COVER-UP IN WORLD HISTORY.
It is very, very unlikely that Jesus appointed the perpetrator of the LARGEST CHILD SEX-ABUSE COVER-UP IN WORLD HISTORY.
No self-respecting God would want His name associated with the LARGEST CHILD SEX-ABUSE COVER-UP IN WORLD HISTORY.
The same goes for church-owned banks.
THE ITALIAN government doesn't seem to trust the Vatican bank.They ought to know...

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#413641 Jan 6, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet he was a man after God's own heart. What does that tell you.
It tells me that GOD can love anyone.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413642 Jan 6, 2013
No self-respecting God would have appointed and guided anything like this.....

-- a cover-up spanning several decades.

-- a cover-up on all 5 inhabited continents on earth

-- a cover-up involving the abuse of tens of thousands of children

-- a cover-up involving abuse at orphanages and schools for deaf children on at least 3 or more continents.

DUH!!!!!! What kind of God would claim that?

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#413643 Jan 6, 2013
By the way LTM what's your angle here? What axe are you grinding?
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413644 Jan 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> THE ITALIAN government doesn't seem to trust the Vatican bank.They ought to know...
The entire EU doesn't seem to trust the Vatican Bank.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413645 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Each one of your 42,000+ bible only Protestant inconsistent beliefs have their (own)"personal opinionated" self interpretation (so-called truths?????) of the bible that conflicts and contradicts with each other.(There can be ONLY one TRUTH)--not 42,000+ hodge-podge beliefs that conflict with each other. The word of God and the teachings of Jesus are not based upon (Relative Truth) in which each one decides (for themselves) what is truth!
Additionally, what you (fail toi or don't want to) understand is that in the teachings of the Catholic Church --"each day at Daily Mass" are based upon the Gospel, Salvation and teachings of Jesus Christ, manifested in/and through His One True Apostolic Catholic Church. This is where the (fullness) of the Spirit and the Doctrine of the (fullness) of the TRUTH of Jesus is proclaimed and received through His True Body and True Blood, in the Eucharist (John 6:47-59 "for unless you eat my Body (which is real food) and drink my blood (which is real drink) "YOU CANNOT----have eternal life"-----It is in Our Lords One True Apostolic Catholic Church where the "FULLNES of the faith, and the FULLNESS of the truth is manifested in His visible, heirarchical, authoritative One True Church from Matthew 16:13-21 which began with Jesus' first Church in Antioch(Acts 2) with Bishops, priests, deacons and elders (also Acts 2)----the same Churches that Paul writes to in his letters ot the Churches in Corinth,Galatia, Ephesus, Phillipi, Colossus, Thessalonica, etc, all preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it has been taught for over 2000 years.
You see LTM, your idea of truth, has never, nor will ever be based up 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent (RELATIVE TRUTHS). Your (personal opinion) "denial" of the FULLNESS of the TRUTH of doctrine that has existed for over 2000 years, "cannot, nor will not" change the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church--"the bride of Christ" --You continue to "fish and catch nothing" just like Peter did before His TRUE conversion to Jesus Christ!!!
HOJO, now you know I don't follow a doctrine of any religion, I am a follower of Jesus Christ.
So as a follower of Christ I am commanded to plant seeds of faith in God and tell people about His Kingdom, not a denomination.
Denominations are mans idea not Gods.
Now man has made their god out of wood, marble, various kinds of metal, idols of every kind. I will continue to worship the unseen God .
For the very reason you gave here {"42,000+ hodge-podge beliefs that conflict with each other".}
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413646 Jan 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
By the way LTM what's your angle here? What axe are you grinding?
Hi Waco, also glad to see some one new on here.
No angle, grinding no axe.
LOL
preston

Waverly, OH

#413647 Jan 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> It tells me that GOD can love anyone.
it was never that david was a good sinner,

but rather he was a great repenter

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