Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590244 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413461 Jan 5, 2013
A story written by an abuse victim from the age of 7 until age ll from 1953 to 1957. He claims he was one of several victims at the hands of a priest from Denver.

This victim wrote a letter to the Pope in 1993 telling him of his 40 years of torment, agony and pain at the hands of this priest.

The Pope never responded back to him.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news5/19...

that is what I am talking about. SHAME!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413462 Jan 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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"let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
No one is defending anything. It's about putting the numbers in perspective.
Did you know that protestant minsters are much more likely to be guilty of illicit sexual behaviour?
"In a 1984 survey, 38.6 percent of ministers reported sexual contact with a church member, and 76 percent knew of another minister who had had sexual intercourse with a parishioner.[xiii] In the same year, a Fuller Seminary survey of 1,200 ministers found that 20 percent of theologically “conservative” pastors admitted to some sexual contact outside of marriage with a church member. The figure jumped to over 40 percent for “moderates”; 50 percent of “liberal” pastors confessed to similar behavior.[xiv]
In 1990, in a study by the Park Ridge Center for the Study of Health, Faith and Ethics in Chicago, it was learned that 10 percent of ministers said they had had an affair with a parishioner and about 25 percent admitted some sexual contact with a parishioner.[xv] Two years later, a survey by Leadership magazine found that 37 percent of ministers confessed to having been involved in “inappropriate sexual behavior” with a parishioner.[xvi]
In a 1993 survey by the Journal of Pastoral Care, 14 percent of Southern Baptist ministers said they had engaged in “inappropriate sexual behavior,” and 70 percent said they knew a minister who had had such contact with a parishioner.[xvii] Joe E. Trull is co-author of the 1993 book, Ministerial Ethics, and he found that “from 30 to 35 percent of ministers of all denominations admit to having sexual relationships—from inappropriate touching to sexual intercourse—outside of marriage.”[xviii]"
Do you consider these protestant minsters to be "repentant"?
I consider that no Protestant group is having to pay out millions of dollars in reparations.

I consider that the Protestant groups do not give immunity to the guilty. There are restrictions for such people.
guest

United States

#413463 Jan 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
70 priests in Boston alone...and only a fraction of priests are guilty?
And you can believe/defend THAT ?
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Robert Dye wrote:
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Awfully convenient that you would read "70 priests and ministers" as "70 priests."
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Says quite a bit about you.
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Rob
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That the Catholic Church would ignore the VERY words of CHRIST himself, says quite a bit about the Church ... and the priests themselves!
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Matthew 23:9

New International Version (©1984)
And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have ONE Father, and he is in heaven.
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we have ONE spiritual father and he is in heaven.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413464 Jan 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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It's not a "cover-up" when the prevailing course of treament in the psychiatric community recommends counseling and being sent to a new parish. If we knew then what we know now about recidivism, things would have been different.
And if it was 4% decades ago and now it's 0.000175%, that tells me the Church is trying to be accountable.
How many times had this story played out by thousands of others, with no help and no response from the church. Nobody cared! and you defend them.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news5/19...
Clay

Chicago, IL

#413465 Jan 5, 2013
Michael wrote:
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CLAY says........
..I read MPLS/saint Paul.. I saw two priest out of 30 on your link that were guilty since 1950.
MICHAEL says......So! the church just decided to write checks to everyone. How much do you need? We can match that!(lol)
you are not fooling anyone Clay with your denial of facts.
No you're not fooling anyone Michael. In fact, you make me sick to my stomach even replying to you.

The CC would have spent twice as much trying to fight it. And you know it.

So long. I'm officially done with Topix. Congrats Miguel... your unrelenting ignorance and slander has worked.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#413466 Jan 5, 2013
this is pathetic that someone from this forum would have seen my name on this other forum and insulted a little baby with your evil machinations.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic/...

the only negative judgies are just against me only, with the little picture of my grandson and me wishing Michelle good cheer for the Holidays.

and no, it isnt karma biting me.

it is satan controling you(to the person that gave them)

I cant say" shame" on you since you have no shame, or you wouldnt act like this.

there is NOT one catholic on this forum that would have done this, it lays on the likes of 4bdn, the sda or LTM,IMO. Marge wouldnt do it and I know for a fact that gif and his wife would never have done it
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413467 Jan 5, 2013
In 1993 it was obvious Pope John Paul II was well aware of abusive clergy and Bishops who covered up these crimes, as the letter writer wrote, yet Pope Benedict in 2013 says he was never aware of abusive clergy and coverups in the past.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news5/19...

Who is zooming who? Can you trust anyone in the church authority?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413468 Jan 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I consider that no Protestant group is having to pay out millions of dollars in reparations.
I consider that the Protestant groups do not give immunity to the guilty. There are restrictions for such people.
No one should be above the law, regardless of their institution.

Just think, of the thousands of clergy who molested children, and the clergy who did go to confession to another priest makes certain that an awful lot of non molesting clergy were well aware of criminal clergy in their dioceses and how these priests could stand up in the pulpit every sunday staring at the victim and his family who don't even know their son was being molested by the priest who just told his confession to the priest in the pulpit, and no one told ANYONE.

makes no moral common sense.


UNBELIEVABLE!
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#413469 Jan 5, 2013
Michael wrote:
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It means that there are rules for some and rules for others. Kind of sad when MORALITY means nothing, and Anthony agrees. If the chips are ever down and bad karma bites you in the butt and the only person who knows is a priest, God help you.
Off topic:
A couple days ago you made light of the priests that had joined/formed their Association/Union in america.
..... You made it sound like I siding with them. No Anthony they are priests in your church, who distribute the sacraments, and I am sure some of YOUR collection money goes to pay for their salaries, and benefits. Much like the 47,000 nuns in america that you also refer to as RADICAL FEMINISTS. You again Anthony pay a big chunk of the upkeep of their hundreds of convents, and the 47,000 monthly salaries and benefits THEY receive.
Can't have it both ways. Bad mouth some of the clergy and nuns yet you financially support them.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, but don't slam the ones you feed.
Just as I thought, you have no idea what the purpose of the Seal of Confession is.

And FYI, I don't have a problem supporting them financially. It's not my job to scrutinize what the Archdiocese does with my contributions, it's thier bishop's job to discipline them. If they won't take correction, it's on them. I love those priests and nuns, but they're wrong and misguided to fight against their bishop, and they will have to answer for it ultimately.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#413470 Jan 5, 2013
Michael wrote:
In 1993 it was obvious Pope John Paul II was well aware of abusive clergy and Bishops who covered up these crimes, as the letter writer wrote, yet Pope Benedict in 2013 says he was never aware of abusive clergy and coverups in the past.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news5/19...
Who is zooming who? Can you trust anyone in the church authority?
I wonder how all of us knew about it, but the catholics didn't?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413471 Jan 5, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
this is pathetic that someone from this forum would have seen my name on this other forum and insulted a little baby with your evil machinations.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic/...
the only negative judgies are just against me only, with the little picture of my grandson and me wishing Michelle good cheer for the Holidays.
and no, it isnt karma biting me.
it is satan controling you(to the person that gave them)
I cant say" shame" on you since you have no shame, or you wouldnt act like this.
there is NOT one catholic on this forum that would have done this, it lays on the likes of 4bdn, the sda or LTM,IMO. Marge wouldnt do it and I know for a fact that gif and his wife would never have done it
I can tell you it wasn't me.

Don't ever say no catholic would ever do this. They are no different than anyone else.

I too have grand children, and I too would be upset.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413472 Jan 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
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No you're not fooling anyone Michael. In fact, you make me sick to my stomach even replying to you.
The CC would have spent twice as much trying to fight it. And you know it.
So long. I'm officially done with Topix. Congrats Miguel... your unrelenting ignorance and slander has worked.
OK LIAM!

The catholic church has paid out Billions in settlements.

How is that my fault? Why do you want to blame innocent people for reporting guilty people of bad behavior?

YOu will be back......you always come back.





“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413473 Jan 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Thanks for your opinion Kay.
No one denies them anything. They spend years discerning the calling.
Was St. Paul wrong for denying his natural use?
The 'rule' is celibacy; they 'choose' it because they are not given an option.

Don't tell me that a young man/woman who has not been introduced to sex is going to know what they are doing to themselves.

Saint Paul made a choice of his own...at a time when others did not make that choice.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#413474 Jan 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I consider that no Protestant group is having to pay out millions of dollars in reparations.
I consider that the Protestant groups do not give immunity to the guilty. There are restrictions for such people.
I can paste hundreds of links with thousands of cases of protestant communities whose insurance companies have paid many millions in settlements. And I can do the same showing protestant communities hiding and covering up abuse by their clergy.

But I choose not to roll around in the sewer with you and Mike.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413475 Jan 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You're posting a link that has mostly accused Priests on it. You got caught. Don't you care about the innocents you just trashed? Are your parents proud of what their son has become?
If I knew my son was going around doing this crap id be disgusted. Of course, you enjoy the anonymity of the internet....for now.
I would be the first to defend an innocent person being charged with any crime.

The stories are public knowledge written in newspapers back in the day and are available in any library.

I would just hope you would want to know the truth. Show me a list where these accused were acquitted and I will apologize.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413476 Jan 5, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
this is pathetic that someone from this forum would have seen my name on this other forum and insulted a little baby with your evil machinations.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic/...
the only negative judgies are just against me only, with the little picture of my grandson and me wishing Michelle good cheer for the Holidays.
and no, it isnt karma biting me.
it is satan controling you(to the person that gave them)
I cant say" shame" on you since you have no shame, or you wouldnt act like this.
there is NOT one catholic on this forum that would have done this, it lays on the likes of 4bdn, the sda or LTM,IMO. Marge wouldnt do it and I know for a fact that gif and his wife would never have done it
And you are right. We would not have done that. It was pretty callous.
Beautiful baby, too.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413477 Jan 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Just as I thought, you have no idea what the purpose of the Seal of Confession is.
And FYI, I don't have a problem supporting them financially. It's not my job to scrutinize what the Archdiocese does with my contributions, it's thier bishop's job to discipline them. If they won't take correction, it's on them. I love those priests and nuns, but they're wrong and misguided to fight against their bishop, and they will have to answer for it ultimately.
These priests in the association indicate there are 3 main groups or followings of the priests in the USA. That sounds like CHAOS to me.

What happened to the one big happy family?

A few years ago I never heard such anger by priests and nuns, who are suppose to be the most holy of catholics. Its obvious there are big problems behind the scenes..........and I know its all my fault (lol)

I will standby what I said. Nothing is above the law of truthful morality. Church or no church. My opinion.

If the muslims had such a rule you would scoff or laugh at them but when its YOUR church everything is OK.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413478 Jan 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I can paste hundreds of links with thousands of cases of protestant communities whose insurance companies have paid many millions in settlements. And I can do the same showing protestant communities hiding and covering up abuse by their clergy.
But I choose not to roll around in the sewer with you and Mike.
Anthony says........

.I can paste hundreds of links with thousands of cases of protestant communities whose insurance companies have paid many millions in settlements.

Michael says..........DO IT! I want to see hundreds of links.

First you and Clay get all upset that I am posting catholic links and I shouldn't be doing it, now you want to post protestant links after you told me that I shouldn't be posting catholic links.

Make up your mind!!

I want to see hundreds of protestant links that have paid out BILLIONS in settlements.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#413479 Jan 5, 2013
nith wrote:
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if someone did that to me, i would say," I can't ever luve Jesus more than he luv me, but i luv Him wholeheartedly " ( it rhymes! i nly noticed xd )
Yes.It rhymes.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413480 Jan 5, 2013
Michael wrote:
Next time you go into KFC just order a large gravy, and see what strange looks you get.
went there and ordered an 8 piece bucket got the mashy's gravy cole slaw,also ordered extra mash potatoes,gravy and two more cole slaws,got home and all the extra orders were gravy's,couldn't believe it,but then none of the people working there really didn't speak english very well,and that's the only reason i can think of as to the order screw up.a law should be passed that if you come to this country you must take a class on speaking english,or go back home,and i don't mean it in a predjudice way.

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