Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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guest

United States

#413324 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong. They are the wealthiest religion. I don't know if its true not but they say you have to pay for a vatican tour?
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Anthony MN wrote:
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Mike is a militant atheist. He feels threatened by the Catholic Church, so it's nice to see you two have something in common. BTW, do you realize most of the folks here think you belong to a non-Christian cult?
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Actually, anyone who can think for themselves knows the Catholic church is the biggest cult on the planet.
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It certainly has ALL the marks of a cult.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413325 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Telling us to search the scriptures is not the same as 'bible only', if it was, Jesus would've just handed out bibles.
The fathers quoted scripture just like you, but they had the voices of the apostles ringing in their ears, you don't.
Jesus didn't have Bibles available...and if He had, everyone would have had one. Scrolls were in the temple, laboriously copied.

I DO have the voices of the Apostle's 'ringing in my ears', too. Their words are in a Book that I use frequently.

Scripture...
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#413326 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, people say I'm in a cult all the time. The Bible says that was to be expected. If you remember they accused the apostle Paul of being in a cult. I don't have a Bible in hand with me but I will try to post the scripture when I have time.
Who was accusing St. Paul? The pagans and the Jews?

I wouldn't worry about atheists telling you that, I'd be more worried because it's the Christians telling you....
guest

United States

#413327 Jan 4, 2013
New International Version (©1984)

http://niv.scripturetext.com/acts/24.htm

Acts 24:

5 "We have found this man to be a troublemaker, stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the Nazarene sect

14 However, I admit that I worship the God of our fathers as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that agrees with the Law and that is written in the Prophets,
guest

United States

#413328 Jan 4, 2013
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#413329 Jan 4, 2013
We are slowly loosing our bill of rights people....
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#413330 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Oh no Miguel, I'm never concerned with the 'news stories' you conjure up.
You're old and just discovering the internet. I don't read radical ideological websites for my news anyway.
Do you really think you're noble for doing this?
It ain't news. Its not breaking. Its not shocking.
You should really get a life.
Clay, of course Mikey is once again presenting his balanced approach and no crime has been proven. Allegations are allegations. I can dig up all kind of Proven Protestant scandals that involve billions but its of no account. Whenever there is lots of money it is easy to fall prey. Ananias and Saphira lied and they paid a price. I am content that the Vatican is taking great measures to limit abuse as much as possible, The commission set up to deal specifically with prevention is rarely mentioned, and it doesnt mean it will never happen. Oddly enough many Americans do not seem to care that trillions are unaccounted for by the Fed Reserve, but congressman are very resistant to an audit. Why is that? Most churches are not held accountable nor do they release their financial records to anyone. However since the Vatican has some pretty vast holdings it is good for Catholics and non-catholics to have accountability. However the Vatican does not control the local budget of a parish the Bishop does. Every organization as large as the Catholic church is going to have a few loose canons every now and then, but to argue that corruption will never be found whether on purpose or unknowingly is to be naive of the history of money in general. The various bubbles and bank games that went on is still costing a toll. Yeah I still wish we could all get bonuses larger than many will make in their lifetime for collapsing the econonomy. The finger pointing will never end. Wouldnt it be nice if after the debates the press really dissected the truth of what politicians say? Both Obama and Romney told some whoppers and each of them stood there calling each other liars. However, as Bill Clinton said in an interview with Barbara Walters, "Sometimes the truth is the lie people believe."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jpmorgan-chas...

Deutsche Bank Caught in Money-Laundering Scandal?

http://larouchepac.com/node/24920

http://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2012/1...
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#413331 Jan 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Jesus didn't have Bibles available...and if He had, everyone would have had one. Scrolls were in the temple, laboriously copied.
I DO have the voices of the Apostle's 'ringing in my ears', too. Their words are in a Book that I use frequently.
Scripture...
LOL!!!!
So why did God wait 1400 years to tell Gutenberg about the printing press?

"Faith then comes by hearing; and hearing by the word of Christ."... not reading the bible by yourself.

Yes, even the SDAs and JWs say they "hear" the apostles, but like you, they just read and decide by themselves.
marge

Ames, IA

#413332 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Yes of course the OT points to Christ. That's not the issue. The issue is which early Christians believed the same as today's evangelicals. St. Clement certainly didn't. This piece is something that the Catholic Church believes, but he wrote a lot of other things that you vehemently disagree with, so he obviously wasn't an "early" evangelical by your standards. Do you think you can pick certain paragraphs from their writings and claim they're evangelicals when you disagree with everything else they wrote? I don't think so. What else do you have marge?
well I guess that's the only point I had, before the NT was penned they used only the Old Testament to point to Jesus and that was enough. So why would not the New Testament be all sufficient?

And yes your right it's fruitless to go through old writers agreeing with parts of what they say and disagreeing with other parts. We don't follow them anyway.
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#413333 Jan 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
Reg. my grandson
Cute little guy.
I'm sorry he is already $52,000 in debt already.
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#413334 Jan 4, 2013
Disciple wrote:
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Cute little guy.
I'm sorry he is already $52,000 in debt already.
And already again....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413335 Jan 4, 2013
Dear Fellow Conservative,

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This petition is truly shocking, and it's an attack against ALL people of faith, not just Catholics! That's why I'm so urgently asking you to stand with Catholic Advocate today and help us launch an all-out campaign against the Obama Administrations hateful, secular agenda. Please follow this link right now to make an emergency donation of $16 or more.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413336 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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LOL!!!!
So why did God wait 1400 years to tell Gutenberg about the printing press?
"Faith then comes by hearing; and hearing by the word of Christ."... not reading the bible by yourself.
Yes, even the SDAs and JWs say they "hear" the apostles, but like you, they just read and decide by themselves.
Maybe it was because the CC didn't want the Word to get out?

Nope...don't decide for myself. I can read what it says.
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#413337 Jan 4, 2013
marge wrote:
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well I guess that's the only point I had, before the NT was penned they used only the Old Testament to point to Jesus and that was enough. So why would not the New Testament be all sufficient?
And yes your right it's fruitless to go through old writers agreeing with parts of what they say and disagreeing with other parts. We don't follow them anyway.
Marge, the OT wasn't "all sufficient" either because clearly there were many non-believers in Jesus. It needed infallible interpreters.

And I'm glad to see you admit there is no evidence of any protestant evangelicals until 1500 years after the NT was penned.
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#413338 Jan 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Maybe it was because the CC didn't want the Word to get out?
Nope...don't decide for myself. I can read what it says.
That's why? Wow, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel on that one.

Yup, you decide for yourself, and we know you do because other protestants who read what it says come to different conclusions.

Have a good night Kay.
marge

Ames, IA

#413339 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Marge, the OT wasn't "all sufficient" either because clearly there were many non-believers in Jesus. It needed infallible interpreters.
And I'm glad to see you admit there is no evidence of any protestant evangelicals until 1500 years after the NT was penned.
huh? Thats what they used the OT even Jesus used it, people searched the OT to see if what they said about Jesus was true, that He was the promised Messiah that would save the people from their sins.

And No I don't that would be a lie, the NT speaks of evangelists.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413340 Jan 4, 2013
PUBLIC SCRIPTURE-READING. Luke 4:16 "He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up for to read." When the law and the prophets were read in the synagogue those who read were expected to stand. See note on Acts xiii, 15. Not only priests and Levites but common Israelites were allowed to read the Scriptures pub licly. Every Sabbath seven persons read : a priest, a Levite, and five ordinary Israelites.[Manners and Customs of the Bible]

Luke 4:16-21
16 - And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17 - And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 - The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 - To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 - And he closed the book, and he gave [it] again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 - And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

OFFICERS OF THE SYNAGOGUE. "It appears that there was no appointed teacher in the synagogue, but that any person who considered himself qualified to preach was at liberty to do so. Thus we read of our Lord that : "He came to Nazareth .... and as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read" (Luke iv. 16): and again of Paul and Barnabas at Antioch, that : "The rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying : Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on" (Acts xiii. 15)." [Scripture Manners and Customs]
marge

Ames, IA

#413341 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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That's why? Wow, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel on that one.
Yup, you decide for yourself, and we know you do because other protestants who read what it says come to different conclusions.
Have a good night Kay.
Not true Anthony, us born-agains read it the same way and if not can be reasoned with to do so. Blessings
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#413342 Jan 4, 2013
marge wrote:
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huh? Thats what they used the OT even Jesus used it, people searched the OT to see if what they said about Jesus was true, that He was the promised Messiah that would save the people from their sins.
And No I don't that would be a lie, the NT speaks of evangelists.
Do you think the OT was "all sufficient"? If you do, why did Jesus need the apostles to go out and preach? Couldn't they just have big mega church gatherings and read from it? Why were there so many Jews who DID read it and still reject Jesus? Could it be that the OT wasn't all sufficient?

Marge, I asked you for one shred of evidence that there were any people who believed as you do after the NT was finished. You have yet to do so.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#413343 Jan 4, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

Only made up by those certain individuals?
Citation please, because I know the Catholics will disagree with you.
Do you believe I am part of this so-called "Church"? Why not? If not, please post your citation that designates what you say is accurate.
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I cannot speak for you.
I didn't ask that you do - I just asked your opinion, and you seemed to avoid it. No problem. And you are correct - we each must make a choice in life. Self.
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>Have you had an experience with Jesus, and believe that He has paid your debt...are you 'born again'?
Why do you have to ask? Is is not my choice, as you have just stated?
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the church is made up only of such individuals.

Using
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus said that the WORK of God is to believe on the One Whom God sent. Jesus said, "He that BELIEVES and is baptized, shall be saved. He that BELIEVES NOT shall be damned. Read the parable of the sower. Jesus said that the seed planted was the Word of God (scripture).
It is the living Word of God IN US (Col.'Christ IN YOU is your hope of glory.')
And there is more...
Why do you stop at only those Apostles?

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