Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413197 Jan 4, 2013
4gvn:LTM wrote:
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Logic and common sense is not the catholic's strong point.
Be nice. Let Jesus show through you.:) JETHRO:she has a good point there.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413198 Jan 4, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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I'm not worried about the opinion of you and your ilk. The only "opinion" I'm concerned with is that of God. He tells the truth and I believe it. As do my brothers and sisters in Christ...Anthony, Robert, Clay, Hojo, Dust Storm, Star, etc. I have no need to change it to stroke my ego, i.e. Protestantism.
So no need to worry about me. I'm in the church Christ founded, all is well! Yes, that's right, it's in scripture!
JETHRO:you state "I'm in the church Christ founded, all is well! Yes, that's right, it's in scripture!" JETHRO: would you mind posting this scripture that says the catholic church is the right church,the one christ built? and who saw him build it?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413199 Jan 4, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
From the RCC's deeds, one must conclude that the Vatican believes Jesus would do the same for one of His Apostles, who happened to facilitate the rape of children who came to Him. Absurd. How can anyone claim Jesus guided His earthly vicar to honor and reward an Apostle who facilitated the rape of over 100 children? Nope, Law was rewarded for his silence and for leaving his home country (forever likely) to avoid being subpoenaed to testify.
same reason benny was made pope to keep him quiet.if he was a true man of god,he would step forward on his own and tell the truth,but it seems that word (truth) does not exist in the man made phony catholic traditions.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#413200 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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to answer your last question that you already know the answer to:
We don't bypass Jesus Christ. He is the only mediator. All sacraments and such are an effort to get to Him.
And there is the problem Clay. You cannot get to Him...He comes to us.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413201 Jan 4, 2013
Michael wrote:
.....Everyone remembers Cardinal Bernard Law of the Arch-diocese of Boston, whose soft-glove treatment of pedophiles ignited the Boston scandal. Cost the archdiocese of Boston $650 MILLION in lawsuits. Thankyou parishioners for your financial support.
Cardinal Law was disgraced and resigned as archbishop in 2002.
In 2004 Cardinal Law was summoned to Rome by the Pope and later in 2004 he was named pastor of a great Roman basilica, Santa Maria Maggiore, with a $10,000 per month salary and a highly influential role in choosing new American bishops.
.....and Catholics accept this joy.
No one gives a damn about the innocent victims and their families. DISGUSTING!
and.... UNBELIEVABLE!
people here in boston have not forgotten,churches are closing daily here,no priest shortage here,for the few churches left there is two priests for every church.in my home town we had 4 catholic churches now we are down to one with one getting ready to close soon,no one is attending,to be associated with the catholic church you are branded a pedophile supporter.that would explain the mad dash to their cars and zipping out of the parking lot in a hurry,ever notice that? no one hangs around and talks to other church goers,my g/f has mentioned it a few times,she is attending a new church because her usual one closed,and she knows no one at the one she goes to now,once the priest is done it's a mad dash to the door,no one stops to say hello to her or welcome to our church or anything,even the priest dissapears into the back room in a hurry like he's afraid to have to talk to someone,I feel bad for her,i told her to stick to her plan of finding a different church after her parents are gone,they are the reason she still goes to a catholic church.she had no idea how bad it was as far as the abuse goes until i told her to sit and watch 60 minutes,they ran the abuse story and it shocked and horrified her,she had no idea how bad it was,she wants to ask her kids if anything ever happened to them but she's not sure how to handle it.i told her the best thing to do is let it go until after her parents are gone because it will cause a problem,her parents (father mostly)are big on going to church,every saturday and sunday,her mom calls and allways asks if she went to church and she lies and says yes she went,she went christmas eve,first time she went to church in months.being a mother she is having a hard time with this issue,and it's understandable,that is why i can't understand why parents are still taking their kids to this perverted church,and not just the C.C. but anyone of them involved with cover-up of abuse going on.I include the boy scouts also,that was a real shocker,had no idea the problem was that big in the organization.made my brother aware of it just in case he had the idea of sending my 5 yr. old nephew to the scouts,after what he read,he won't now.he won't even let the kids go to church,they stay home with him while their mom goes.i can't blame him,if i had kids no way would i let them near either organization.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413202 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>nothing wrong with burgers for dinner with a side order of steak fries and cole slaw. i don't know what they put in their cole slaw but kentucky fried chicken has the best market cole slaw, i go there an order a large one once in a awhile, and i get strange looks from cashier because that's all i order.
Next time you go into KFC just order a large gravy, and see what strange looks you get.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#413203 Jan 4, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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And there is the problem Clay. You cannot get to Him...He comes to us.
So you don't need to initiate anything? You don't need to make the decision via free will?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413204 Jan 4, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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And there is the problem Clay. You cannot get to Him...He comes to us.
Amen
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#413205 Jan 4, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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When you drink in from of young children do they know you're drinking in moderation and you're in control?
Of course. What do you think I've been saying all along? The one or two beers I drink and the one glass of wine my wife may drink on occasion has zero effect on us. We have self control. That's what the bible teaches.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413206 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Do you realize no normal person thinks 'Benney' is a criminal. Its been investigated by all the top journalist...and believe me, if there was something out there, it would be reported.
Instead, all we have is a few slander articles from your fellow bigots, who desperately want to believe these fables. Like you, they will knowingly spread this crap to further trash the Church.
Although the mainstream media also hates the Church like you, but they also care about their reputation.
You keep missing the main point of your argument. If many former catholics speak out against the church, the nuns and vatican are in battle mode, priests around the world are forming associations because they have been kicked around by their leaders, and the main stream media speaks against the church..........YOU HAVE TO BE ASKING WHY? Why are so many people speaking out against the church?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413207 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
But the approval of drinking wine goes back further than New Testament times. Several passages from the Old Testament indicate that drinking has been acceptable for a long time:
Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty, and remember their misery no more (Prov. 31:6-7).
Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was priest of God Most High (Gen. 14:18).
[Jacob] brought [Isaac] wine, and he drank (Gen. 27:25).
[S]pend the money for whatever you desire, oxen, or sheep, or wine or strong drink ...(Deut. 14:26).
Thou dost cause the grass to grow for the cattle, and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth, and wine to gladden the heart of man ...(Ps. 104:14-15).
Go, eat your bread with enjoyment, and drink your wine with a merry heart; for God has already approved what you do (Eccles. 9:7).1
On this mountain the Lord of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of fat things, a feast of wine on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wine on the lees well refined (Is. 25:6). Note that the Hebrew word translated as "wine on the lees" here is shemer, indicating fermentation.
Israel’s burnt offering requirements—required by God—included the use of wine, the leftover of which could be drunk by Aaron and his sons: "[A]nd with the first lamb a tenth measure of fine flour mingled with a fourth of a hin of beaten oil, and a fourth of a hin of wine for a libation" (Ex. 29:40; see also Lev. 23:13; Num. 15:5, 7, 10; 28:7, 14). Note that Numbers 28:7 uses the Hebrew word shekar, meaning "strong wine" (or other strong alcoholic drink).
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/got...
ANTHONY says......

..But the approval of drinking wine goes back further than New Testament times. Several passages from the Old Testament indicate that drinking has been acceptable for a long time:

MICHAEL says..We are all sure drinking ferminated beverages was acceptable in all other lands at that time that had nothing to do with bible writings..

.......Slavery was acceptable back then too. Owning your wife was common and ACCEPTABLE. Just a few years ago smoking cigarettes was acceptable by most people. Will you start smoking CAMELS now because a few years ago everyone else did?

Your argument is always, because its in the BIBLE its OK!(lol)

BUSTED!
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413208 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Do you think churches are real when they use Jesus' name invane?
To use God's Holy Name , outside of worship, Praise, and in an honorable way is speak Gods name in vain.
To use God's name in a sentence were it is use for cursing or curse words are used , or in anger,.

As it Goes, and I put it on my wall at home.

His name is more then just a swear word, a more then I don't care word.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413209 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> He came to die for us. The prophecy had to be fullfilled. The Bible never claims that ALL would listen in fact most don't listen, believed or believe today. His brother James did not believe he was the Messaiah till after his death.
You must be a protestant. Catholics believe Jesus never had siblings. They were all cousins. Sorry for the bad news.

Over centuries MILLIONS of people from far away lands never heard of Jesus, are they going to hell because of that?

Its all FEARFUL nonsense.....
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413210 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> He came to die for us. The prophecy had to be fullfilled. The Bible never claims that ALL would listen in fact most don't listen, believed or believe today. His brother James did not believe he was the Messaiah till after his death.
Aviela says.,..

..He came to die for us.

Michael says.......If you read your bible closely you will see that a small group of people determined the fate of a man named Jesus. They were given a choice JESUS OR BARABAS.....RIGHT? What would have happened if the crowd had screamed BARABAS instead of JESUS? How would christianity have started then?

The bible stories claim that just a short time before the crucifixion Jesus performed many miracles for thousands of jews like himself. Stories in the bible claim thousands of people loved this man followed him in great groups it was like JESUSMANIA yet a very short time later they were screaming for his death.

What happened in that short time between the miracles and his crucifixion that changed everyones minds?

...not meant to offend but...

Personally I don't believe any of these stories because they make no common sense.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413211 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>nothing wrong with burgers for dinner with a side order of steak fries and cole slaw. i don't know what they put in their cole slaw but kentucky fried chicken has the best market cole slaw, i go there an order a large one once in a awhile, and i get strange looks from cashier because that's all i order.
LOL I love their cole slaw, and their veggie salad which they have stopped making. I am not a big hamburger person but I do eat one from time to time but I make them myself, I like the New York Fries a lot . I watch the gravy however to much MSG in it.
that stuff will kill you.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413212 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I drank some really good beer brewed by Catholic monks when I lived in Europe. Would that qualify?
OMG! Sooo! thats what happened to you! Are you blind now?

Brewed by monks. Much like the MOONSHINERS in North Carolina?
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#413213 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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So you don't need to initiate anything? You don't need to make the decision via free will?
Your sin separates you from God and you can't fix it. So what are you intiating?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413214 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Hi Micheal, if you read the good book you will learn all about the different personalities.
Tell me? Why are NONE of these different personalities or characters in the bible, not ever written about ANYWHERE ELSE?

Why does our world history not mention a miracle man named Jesus, except referring to the bible?

Why did NOT ONE of the many jewish/roman writers of that era ever write about a man named Jesus, not ANYONE from the entire mediteranean ever mentions a man Jesus who performed many miracles and was crucified? We have nothing in any of their writings. Devastating! wouldn't you say?

....something is terribly wrong!
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413215 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>why not? god is suppose to be a loving forgiving person,so why doesn't everyone go to heaven? if you go to the catholic church toss them a few bucks, go into a closet confess your sin/s to a man and your all set....what puzzles me is how do they get around the rule "there is only one mediator between man and god and that is jesus"
One Lie on top of an other Jethro, its a deck of cards.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413216 Jan 4, 2013
Makesure100 wrote:
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Anyone who must write thousands of words to eck out one thought is a freak..FREAK. You simpleton.......learn to communicate....save us time and give us pleasure by learning to write or even speak. How, did you get this far in life?
By the Grace of God of course LOL.

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