Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413217 Jan 4, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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If I am not mistaken, the shroud has been proven to be a 13th century creation and only a few, relatively speaking, hold on it being of christ.
You are right. A man looking like that would certainly standout in 1st century Israel.
Details. Details. Details. Who needs details?
The catholic church does NOT state that the shroud of Turin is the actual burial cloth of a man named Jesus. They don't know but claim it to be a church relic.

Wouldn't one believe by now the Holy Spirit would have informed the Pope that its real or its not?

BUSTED!
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413218 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
ReginaM wrote:
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I'm not worried about the opinion of you and your ilk. The only "opinion" I'm concerned with is that of God. He tells the truth and I believe it. As do my brothers and sisters in Christ...Anthony, Robert, Clay, Hojo, Dust Storm, Star, etc. I have no need to change it to stroke my ego, i.e. Protestantism.
So no need to worry about me. I'm in the church Christ founded, all is well! Yes, that's right, it's in scripture!
JETHRO:you state "I'm in the church Christ founded, all is well! Yes, that's right, it's in scripture!" JETHRO: would you mind posting this scripture that says the catholic church is the right church,the one christ built? and who saw him build it?
Jesus Church is A Spiritual one built one soul at a time.
It was not built with the hands of man but by the Holy Spirit .
the true alter of God is in the Heart and Soul of Gods people.
How can I describe God, Holy,, Righteous, Love, and Merciful, full of Grace. The Heavens declare the Glory of God.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413219 Jan 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
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You don't know the (truth) Michael!! You just "make it up"--- to fit your anti-catholic vengeance, hostility and hatred "for" the "truth"!!--the historical and biblical "truth" of Jesus Christ and His One "True"---that (my friend) IS the TRUTH!!
HOJO says...

....You don't know the (truth) Michael!! You just "make it up"

MICHAEL says......again!! what did I make up? Tell me!
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413220 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I drank some really good beer brewed by Catholic monks when I lived in Europe. Would that qualify?
Why would you want to live in Europe? People defacate and pee in the streets, no standup showers, moldy old buildings, narrow streets, tiny cars, no Krispy Kreame donuts, no home depot, no dairy queen, no budweiser beer.

.......why do you think everyone in europe is moving to america?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413221 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>people here in boston have not forgotten,churches are closing daily here,to them but she's not sure how to handle it.i told her the best thing to do is let it go until after her parents are gone because it will cause a problem,her parents (father mostly)are big on going to church,every saturday and sunday,her mom calls and allways asks if she went to church and she lies and says yes she went,she went christmas eve,first time she went to church in months.being a mother she is having a hard time with this issue,and it's understandable,that is why i can't understand why parents are still taking their kids to this perverted church,and not just the C.C. but anyone of them involved with cover-up of abuse going on.I include the boy scouts also,that was a real shocker,had no idea the problem was that big in the organization.made my brother aware of it just in case he had the idea of sending my 5 yr. old nephew to the scouts,after what he read,he won't now.he won't even let the kids go to church,they stay home with him while their mom goes.i can't blame him,if i had kids no way would i let them near either organization.
Edited for space..

When I was young and our family attended mass, at the end of mass, it was a log jam in the isles of people pushing out the front doors. There would be the smokers lighting up, and always a couple old ladies talking the ear off of the parish priest about some muffins she was going to bake for him, and the rest of the crowd dispersed within a few minutes.

There was always a few old ladies who stayed back and prayed some more hoping to attain more grace for their grand total.


A friend of mine who has been a life long member says the high water mark years were in the late 1960s and since then he says attendance right across the city has dropped steadily.

Back in the day 3 sunday masses, 3 parish priests, 1 saturday night mass.

....TODAY, no parish priest, 1 sunday mass, 1 saturday night mass, and most attendees are old grey haired people. Few children attend.

....times are changing quickly.


Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413222 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>people here in boston have not forgotten,churches are closing daily here,no priest shortage here,for the few churches left there is two priests for every church.in my home town we had 4 catholic churches now we are down to one with one getting ready to close soon,no one is attending,to be associated with the catholic church you are branded a pedophile supporter.that would explain the mad dash to their cars and zipping out of the parking lot in a hurry,ever notice that? no one hangs around and talks to other church goers,my g/f has mentioned it a few times,she is attending a new church because her usual one closed,and she knows no one at the one she goes to now,once the priest is done it's a mad dash to the door,no one stops to say hello to her or welcome to our church or anything,even the priest dissapears into the back room in a hurry like he's afraid to have to talk to someone,I feel bad for her,i told her to stick to her plan of finding a different church after her parents are gone,they are the reason she still goes to a catholic church.she had no idea how bad it was as far as the abuse goes until i told her to sit and watch 60 minutes,they ran the abuse story and it shocked and horrified her,she had no idea how bad it was,she wants to ask her kids if anything ever happened to them but she's not sure how to handle it.i told her the best thing to do is let it go until after her parents are gone because it will cause a problem,her parents (father mostly)are big on going to church,every saturday and sunday,her mom calls and allways asks if she went to church and she lies and says yes she went,she went christmas eve,first time she went to church in months.being a mother she is having a hard time with this issue,and it's understandable,that is why i can't understand why parents are still taking their kids to this perverted church,and not just the C.C. but anyone of them involved with cover-up of abuse going on.I include the boy scouts also,that was a real shocker,had no idea the problem was that big in the organization.made my brother aware of it just in case he had the idea of sending my 5 yr. old nephew to the scouts,after what he read,he won't now.he won't even let the kids go to church,they stay home with him while their mom goes.i can't blame him,if i had kids no way would i let them near either organization.
I hope you are feeling well Jethro.

There is a lot of turmoil going on within the church today.

There has always been disgruntled catholics, but just recently NOW we have 47,000 nuns in america battling the vatican, priests forming associations (unions)in many countries in just the past 3 years, claim they are tired of being kicked around by their bishops and they support the nuns.

The USA priest association is called the AUSCP.

A lot of discontent within the church today. Even the popes butler who stole "secret documents" from the pope stated their is much corruption within the hirearchy.

When I mention this news to catholics they don't get upset with the ones causing the problems, they get upset at me for telling the truthful stories.(lol)







Clay

Chicago, IL

#413223 Jan 4, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Edited for space..
When I was young and our family attended mass, at the end of mass, it was a log jam in the isles of people pushing out the front doors. There would be the smokers lighting up, and always a couple old ladies talking the ear off of the parish priest about some muffins she was going to bake for him, and the rest of the crowd dispersed within a few minutes.
There was always a few old ladies who stayed back and prayed some more hoping to attain more grace for their grand total.
A friend of mine who has been a life long member says the high water mark years were in the late 1960s and since then he says attendance right across the city has dropped steadily.
Back in the day 3 sunday masses, 3 parish priests, 1 saturday night mass.
....TODAY, no parish priest, 1 sunday mass, 1 saturday night mass, and most attendees are old grey haired people. Few children attend.
....times are changing quickly.
And what is the coincidence of the 1960's turning point?
The sexual revolution began. That generation ushered in a whole new mindset that was void of God. Today is the fruits of their free minds.

I think it happened once before like that...in Sodom and Gomorrah. The end result won't be good.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#413224 Jan 4, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Why would you want to live in Europe? People defacate and pee in the streets, no standup showers, moldy old buildings, narrow streets, tiny cars, no Krispy Kreame donuts, no home depot, no dairy queen, no budweiser beer.
.......why do you think everyone in europe is moving to america?
Wow. You are really desperate for attention. I see you haven't taken my advice regarding your wife.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#413225 Jan 4, 2013
Michael wrote:
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You keep missing the main point of your argument. If many former catholics speak out against the church, the nuns and vatican are in battle mode, priests around the world are forming associations because they have been kicked around by their leaders, and the main stream media speaks against the church..........YOU HAVE TO BE ASKING WHY? Why are so many people speaking out against the church?
Because people have lost their way.

What is the Church supposed to do? Change all their teachings because the new culture demands it!!
Sorry Mike, you must have them confused with the Evangelicals. The Church will fade to a 100 members before they'll adhere to outside influence. The dogma can't be changed and never will.
The Holy Spirit will see the Church through any difficult times...He always has in every century since its founding in 33 AD.
Heck, nothing today can compare to every Priest Bishop and Pope being rounded up and killed!
If THAT didn't stop them then nothing will - when Christ promised to be with you til the end.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413226 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Wow. You are really desperate for attention. I see you haven't taken my advice regarding your wife.
YOu have no idea what you are talking about. We are going to Scottsdale Arizona end of February. We were away just last week. Should we travel more to make you happy?

The cold winds of Minnesota have never been on our agenda. I heard you still have snow piles at the end of mall parking lots from 2006.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#413227 Jan 4, 2013
Michael wrote:
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I hope you are feeling well Jethro.
There is a lot of turmoil going on within the church today.
There has always been disgruntled catholics, but just recently NOW we have 47,000 nuns in america battling the vatican, priests forming associations (unions)in many countries in just the past 3 years, claim they are tired of being kicked around by their bishops and they support the nuns.
The USA priest association is called the AUSCP.
A lot of discontent within the church today. Even the popes butler who stole "secret documents" from the pope stated their is much corruption within the hirearchy.
When I mention this news to catholics they don't get upset with the ones causing the problems, they get upset at me for telling the truthful stories.(lol)
The AUSCP makes up about 2% of the US Catholic priest population and about 0.2% of priests in the world.

"Dissenting American priests have organized an association to protest Church teaching, complain about faithful priests, bishops, cardinals, and the pope, sing songs, hang out, etc."

Rembert Weakland presided at their inaugural meeting.

Do you know who Rembert Weakland is?

Yeah, that's who leading these clowns.
marge

Ames, IA

#413228 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Because people have lost their way.
What is the Church supposed to do? Change all their teachings because the new culture demands it!!
Sorry Mike, you must have them confused with the Evangelicals. The Church will fade to a 100 members before they'll adhere to outside influence. The dogma can't be changed and never will.
The Holy Spirit will see the Church through any difficult times...He always has in every century since its founding in 33 AD.
Heck, nothing today can compare to every Priest Bishop and Pope being rounded up and killed!
If THAT didn't stop them then nothing will - when Christ promised to be with you til the end.
Excuse me Claypool but us evangelicals have never changed our teachings despite the catholic influence.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#413229 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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And what is the coincidence of the 1960's turning point?
The sexual revolution began. That generation ushered in a whole new mindset that was void of God. Today is the fruits of their free minds.
I think it happened once before like that...in Sodom and Gomorrah. The end result won't be good.
Let me get this clear. You say it was the sexual revolution that turned everyone away from the church in the late 60s.(lol)

Is that what you are going with, thats the Number 1 reason why catholics are leaving? Led Zepplin, Iron Butterfly, Jimi Hendrix, are the cause of the downfall of the roman catholic church?

Sorry Clay, I can't stop LAUGHING!

Could the real reasons be, that EDUCATED people today! are not interested in (moldy old stories) from 2,000 years ago that make no common sense to many today? Many educated people today do not want a religion claiming they are closer to God than anyone elses religion.

Could it be that women became equal to men and didn't need to enter convents anymore because they could now think for themselves for the first time and become better educated than many priests and bishops who didn't like the nuns becoming smarter than them, and most are women haters anyway?

There are many more reasons, but I have to go now, and do a good deed for my 90 year old neighbor.



truth

Perth, Australia

#413230 Jan 4, 2013
Why you need be educated?
God madness is bigger then any smart diploma.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#413231 Jan 4, 2013
marge wrote:
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Excuse me Claypool but us evangelicals have never changed our teachings despite the catholic influence.
Where can we read all the writings from 'evangelicals' after the bible was written?
Clay

Chicago, IL

#413232 Jan 4, 2013
marge wrote:
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Excuse me Claypool but us evangelicals have never changed our teachings despite the catholic influence.
You guys change your teachings from generation to generation.
Here's one: The Evangelicals and all of Christianity opposed contraception until about 80 yrs ago.
Now the Catholic and Orthodox are the only ones who still oppose it (and always will oppose it) no matter how many of our members are for it.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#413233 Jan 4, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Let me get this clear. You say it was the sexual revolution that turned everyone away from the church in the late 60s.(lol)
Is that what you are going with, thats the Number 1 reason why catholics are leaving? Led Zepplin, Iron Butterfly, Jimi Hendrix, are the cause of the downfall of the roman catholic church?
Sorry Clay, I can't stop LAUGHING!
Could the real reasons be, that EDUCATED people today! are not interested in (moldy old stories) from 2,000 years ago that make no common sense to many today? Many educated people today do not want a religion claiming they are closer to God than anyone elses religion.
Could it be that women became equal to men and didn't need to enter convents anymore because they could now think for themselves for the first time and become better educated than many priests and bishops who didn't like the nuns becoming smarter than them, and most are women haters anyway?
There are many more reasons, but I have to go now, and do a good deed for my 90 year old neighbor.
Yes that's what I'm saying.
Although its not a couple rock bands..silly.
Its a whole culture shift in moral standards that - although always around in some capacity - was never on the level that began in the 60s and you know it.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413234 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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And what is the coincidence of the 1960's turning point?
The sexual revolution began. That generation ushered in a whole new mindset that was void of God. Today is the fruits of their free minds.
I think it happened once before like that...in Sodom and Gomorrah. The end result won't be good.
What is your obsession with sex?

The RCC has diplomatic immunity and their own bank. They don't need your excuses.

A little accountability maybe.

(Still waiting for an explanation of why Jesus used Bonito Mussolini to give "His church" diplomatic immunity and a bank. Sounds very unholy to me. Demonic even.)
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#413235 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You guys change your teachings from generation to generation.
Here's one: The Evangelicals and all of Christianity opposed contraception until about 80 yrs ago.
Now the Catholic and Orthodox are the only ones who still oppose it (and always will oppose it) no matter how many of our members are for it.
Did you ever use contraceptives Clay?
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413236 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>they are all talk no substance,i have reeatedly requested accurate undeniable true history to support the claims of the church,and i get nothing,why? because there is nothing to support their theory of being the true church,jesus was jewish,not pagan nor christian,so how could his true church be a combination of those two things?? also i question why he would build his church in a country that beat,tortured,killed,enslaved his people?? does that make sense?? the true church would be just that "true" we have no church that is 100% truthful,and no leader is infallible which is what it would take to run the "true" church,jesus built and is head of his church,no one else just him,for he is a true god and can not die.the head/s of the c.c. die all the time,and have no apostolic powers like they did 2000 yrs ago,has any pope cured a person of a serious illness? performed any type miracle like they did 2000 yrs ago? give sight to a blind man? restore a leg to a legless person? can he turn water into wine? a pope can do none of the above except quote scripture and tell you to have blind faith and charge you for it.they are against same sex marriage or just two people living together out of wedlock, but child molesting is ok,benny knew for years what was going on and said nothing! that makes him guilty of a crime,and he should be prosecuted for it,but he can't be, he was made pope to make sure he can't be brought to court and ordered to testify,the united nations needs to strip him of his diplomatic immunity and he be brought before the world court and ordered to testify or go to jail for contempt,because i know and most everyone knows he would lie on the witness stand,for the same reason he kept quiet the first time,the church could not handle a big scandle like the one that would be caused if he told the truth,i guess lying is a sin for people who are not catholic.ALL I ASK IS THE CHURCH COME FORWARD AND TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH,STOP THE LIES,THE COVER-UPS ALL THAT CRAP. it will never happen,we'll just have to sit back and wait for the muslims to destroy the church all together for insulting them and for trying to wipe them out completely centuries ago.they'll be more churches blown up in africa and slowly spread to other countries,including vatican city.may not be in our life time but i'd bet that's what will happen.
Try looking at the positives.

How many comedy clubs would close without the Roman Catholic Church?

How many comedians would be without good material?

God still uses this church -- for the amusement of mankind.

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