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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590796 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#413173 Jan 3, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> I am trying to understand your point of view. But does it make sense for Jesus to turn water into wine if he thought it was a gross sin? Correct me if I am wrong but it seems to me that if you see a person enjoying a glass of wine in your eyes you consider them a drunkard
I met a young man in my travels who never had a drink before in his life, took the first drink at the age of 26 to please a friend
30 years later he sobered up.
Even if a person stops drinking today it will take a year for the effects of the alcohol on his brain to wear off.

You just said you drink in moderation yet told Anthony I beieve it was that it gave you a headache.
If you want to drink that is your business but don't say Jesus gave anyone or parttook Him self fermented wine.
Its not true.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#413174 Jan 3, 2013
You can use a (knife) to cut juicy steak or you can use it so slice someone's neck.(Wine) you can have a glass of wine or you can drink a bottle get drunk and hit someone with your car. The Bible does not condemm drinking I've posted scriptures to make the point. What the Bible condemms is getting DRUNK. Having a glass of wine with your dinner does not make you a drunk. If That's the case then Italians area alcoholics? I mean they enjoy yummy lasagna with wine. What is the crime in that?
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#413175 Jan 3, 2013
LTM wrote:
"Watch and be sober"
And What Does the Bible Say About Other Drugs?
In addition to Tirosh,Yayin, and Shakar the Bible lists many other intoxicants.
Our English translators called them wines or strong drinks but by looking at the variety of their names you can see that they are different substances. I am a student of Hebrew but do not profess to be an expert.
Mixing herbs with wine is an ancient practice so most of these were delivered in liquid form although in the cannibal cult of Moloch they burned "incense" which was inhaled (marijuana?) and Solomon was in love with a drug which he described as Black as the tents of Kedar. Kedar was one of Noah's sons who is believe to have migrated to India. I am suggesting that Solomon's downfall was Opium.
The Book of the Revelation says no sorcerers can enter God's kingdom. The word "Sorcerer" in Greek is pharmakia(drug users) I Corinthians 6:9-10) says
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Be not deceived...no Methuskos (intoxicated ones) shall inherit the Kingdom of God."
Brothers and Sisters you cannot take any intoxicants and expect to inherit immortality. I'd recommend you take little or no chemicals into your system or herbs with hallucengenic effects.
So lot and Noah got drunk from grape juice?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#413176 Jan 3, 2013
LTM wrote:
Didn't Jesus Drink Wine at the Last Supper?
At the Last Supper Jesus passed around the cup of and said "This cup is the New Testament in my blood, which is poured out for you." (Luke 22:20)
Do you really think that he was saying that the symbol of the Christian Church and the New Covenant was the forbidden drink Alcoholic Yayin?
Even a child can see mothers abused, children molested, homes destroyed, cars wrecked, divorces and fights, people murdered all because of alcohol. Do you really think Jesus had alcohol in that cup?
Why it Was Not Alcohol
Here Are Two Reasons why it could not have been alcohol.
Alcohol is created by adding leaven (yeast) to grapes and then processing it at the right temperature. Jesus was celebrating the feast of the Passover when all leaven/yeast is removed from Israel . Anyone eating bread with yeast or any product that had yeast in it was "cut off from Israel". Jesus was eating unleavened bread and drinking unleavened grape juice.
Christians are commanded to be temperate. That does not imply moderation. Temperate means literally to cut off all intoxicants.
Proverbs 31:4 says It is not for kings to drink wine, nor for princes strong drink." Leviticus 10:9 says priests will die if they attempt to serve God while drinking wine or strong drink.
Anyone who must write thousands of words to eck out one thought is a freak..FREAK. You simpleton.......learn to communicate....save us time and give us pleasure by learning to write or even speak. How, did you get this far in life?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#413178 Jan 3, 2013
DaGawD wrote:
Funk all that church sh8t i worship myself
Su-ck my stiff hard stool FREAKSHOW. Hard and really long and brown. Save some for Mom too.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#413180 Jan 3, 2013
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

II Tim.3:16,17
truth

Perth, Australia

#413181 Jan 3, 2013
They spiting and judging every good person..Jesus Christ words is perfect.

Your justice is not mine does meter what others think..if not tell me Is really Jesus Christ is been on Cross..yes yes yes who judge him..justice..ow-full false accusers...liars too.
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#413182 Jan 3, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
The followers of The Way is the really Church of Christ. "Jesus being The Way" Its not a denomination,.
The Church of Christ is people Born Of the Spirit, Washed in the Precious Blood of the Lamb.
John 3:3-10
All Glory belongs to God the Father who gave up His only begotten son to die for the sins of the world that through Him many shall be saved.
John 3 ;17-18 "For God did not send His Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world might be saved.
Do you think churches are real when they use Jesus' name invane?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#413184 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> They messed up. Noah and Lot sinned.
You guys insist on ignoring what it says. jesus said, "until all is fulfilled" Do you see the word "All"?

I agree! It is interesting! That is why I read it. There are a few good pearls of wisdom in there.

But after reading it, I noticed how much 'christians' really didn't know about the bible and how many times they misquoted it.

Every 'christian' that I have conversed with has ignored the 'All' and the have ignored that jesus said,'until heaven and Earth pass'. christians completely ignore those words!!

Why?

Simple! You know the real penalty for obeying those laws!

I love hearing, "god's laws are above man's laws!". OK, prove it! Kill as your god demands!

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413185 Jan 4, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds yummy Jethro I could not look at any fowl for a while Hamburgers for supper LOL
nothing wrong with burgers for dinner with a side order of steak fries and cole slaw. i don't know what they put in their cole slaw but kentucky fried chicken has the best market cole slaw, i go there an order a large one once in a awhile, and i get strange looks from cashier because that's all i order.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413187 Jan 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
um, he lives is one. Italy.
actually he doesn't he lives in vatican city,which is considered a country within a country,which will eventually be blown up by muslims for being insulted about their beliefs.they have one hell of a nerve on critizing anyone,they should focus on their own problems,like going on national t.v. and confessing to the world,the sins of the church,and then benny stepping down as pope,he is not fit for the job being a criminal,that would not sit well with jesus IF the church is the true church which obviously it's not.it's to corrupt.no real god would associate him/her self with it,they would be considered just as corrupt and evil as the church is,guilt by association.lets face it,the church worships itself and does not really care about it's followers,they care about their money but as a person they could care less,"just fill that collection plate and god will smile upon you",church slogan :)

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413188 Jan 4, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course! If you believe in the trinity, then you believe god killed himself to appease himself. LOL!
So Aviela, was jesus just the son of god? If we are all god's children, what makes jesus so special? LOL!
he was special because he was 6ft. or a bit taller,the average height of men back then was 5/6 to 5/8,and the picture in the shroud of turin the man is 6 ft.+ if it really is suppose to be jesus,we'll never know since the church refuses to give up a snippet of the original cloth,they gave scientists a snippet from a patch that was added on because of the fire damage,they don't want the truth to be known,they'd loose millions of dollars and followers which are dwindling by the day.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413189 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> yummy!
it was very good,i was a little concerned because i have not made one in a long time,and i wanted this to be perfect,3 inches deep with just about every vegy mixed in except spinach,lima beans,brussel sprouts,and a lot of meat all smothered in thick gravy,followed by chocolate cream pie (i bought that).

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413190 Jan 4, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Some go to heaven the rest will have the ressurection hope here on earth. Its not true that all who die go to heaven.
why not? god is suppose to be a loving forgiving person,so why doesn't everyone go to heaven? if you go to the catholic church toss them a few bucks, go into a closet confess your sin/s to a man and your all set....what puzzles me is how do they get around the rule "there is only one mediator between man and god and that is jesus"

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#413191 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>he was special because he was 6ft. or a bit taller,the average height of men back then was 5/6 to 5/8,and the picture in the shroud of turin the man is 6 ft.+ if it really is suppose to be jesus,we'll never know since the church refuses to give up a snippet of the original cloth,they gave scientists a snippet from a patch that was added on because of the fire damage,they don't want the truth to be known,they'd loose millions of dollars and followers which are dwindling by the day.
If I am not mistaken, the shroud has been proven to be a 13th century creation and only a few, relatively speaking, hold on it being of christ.

You are right. A man looking like that would certainly standout in 1st century Israel.

Details. Details. Details. Who needs details?
Clay

Chicago, IL

#413192 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>actually he doesn't he lives in vatican city,which is considered a country within a country,which will eventually be blown up by muslims for being insulted about their beliefs.they have one hell of a nerve on critizing anyone,they should focus on their own problems,like going on national t.v. and confessing to the world,the sins of the church,and then benny stepping down as pope,he is not fit for the job being a criminal,that would not sit well with jesus IF the church is the true church which obviously it's not.it's to corrupt.no real god would associate him/her self with it,they would be considered just as corrupt and evil as the church is,guilt by association.lets face it,the church worships itself and does not really care about it's followers,they care about their money but as a person they could care less,"just fill that collection plate and god will smile upon you",church slogan :)
Do you realize no normal person thinks 'Benney' is a criminal. Its been investigated by all the top journalist...and believe me, if there was something out there, it would be reported.
Instead, all we have is a few slander articles from your fellow bigots, who desperately want to believe these fables. Like you, they will knowingly spread this crap to further trash the Church.
Although the mainstream media also hates the Church like you, but they also care about their reputation.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#413193 Jan 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>why not? god is suppose to be a loving forgiving person,so why doesn't everyone go to heaven? if you go to the catholic church toss them a few bucks, go into a closet confess your sin/s to a man and your all set....what puzzles me is how do they get around the rule "there is only one mediator between man and god and that is jesus"
to answer your last question that you already know the answer to:

We don't bypass Jesus Christ. He is the only mediator. All sacraments and such are an effort to get to Him.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#413194 Jan 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Rather, it's truly sad that someone who was unable to control themselves thinks that no one else has self control. Three of my five children are adults who are social drinkers, not one of them is an alcoholic, drinks in excess or has ever been involved in any kind of drinking related problems. I raised them to, as with everything, enjoy it in moderation.
Why would you condemn something that Jesus clearly approved of?
When you drink in from of young children do they know you're drinking in moderation and you're in control?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413195 Jan 4, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
The RCC claims to have done "scientific tests" on two or more real-presence miracle Eucharists. But those tests were all done in the 1970's and early 1980's -- before DNA and other amazing forensic techniques -- which are accepted as evidence in a Court of Law today. So why not help to save souls by testing anew, using this far more advanced science? Isn't that why God revealed so much to mankind anyhow? RCC -- time to put up or shut up. If you claim spiritual superiority, then stop hiding and prove it.
they are all talk no substance,i have reeatedly requested accurate undeniable true history to support the claims of the church,and i get nothing,why? because there is nothing to support their theory of being the true church,jesus was jewish,not pagan nor christian,so how could his true church be a combination of those two things?? also i question why he would build his church in a country that beat,tortured,killed,enslaved his people?? does that make sense?? the true church would be just that "true" we have no church that is 100% truthful,and no leader is infallible which is what it would take to run the "true" church,jesus built and is head of his church,no one else just him,for he is a true god and can not die.the head/s of the c.c. die all the time,and have no apostolic powers like they did 2000 yrs ago,has any pope cured a person of a serious illness? performed any type miracle like they did 2000 yrs ago? give sight to a blind man? restore a leg to a legless person? can he turn water into wine? a pope can do none of the above except quote scripture and tell you to have blind faith and charge you for it.they are against same sex marriage or just two people living together out of wedlock, but child molesting is ok,benny knew for years what was going on and said nothing! that makes him guilty of a crime,and he should be prosecuted for it,but he can't be, he was made pope to make sure he can't be brought to court and ordered to testify,the united nations needs to strip him of his diplomatic immunity and he be brought before the world court and ordered to testify or go to jail for contempt,because i know and most everyone knows he would lie on the witness stand,for the same reason he kept quiet the first time,the church could not handle a big scandle like the one that would be caused if he told the truth,i guess lying is a sin for people who are not catholic.ALL I ASK IS THE CHURCH COME FORWARD AND TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH,STOP THE LIES,THE COVER-UPS ALL THAT CRAP. it will never happen,we'll just have to sit back and wait for the muslims to destroy the church all together for insulting them and for trying to wipe them out completely centuries ago.they'll be more churches blown up in africa and slowly spread to other countries,including vatican city.may not be in our life time but i'd bet that's what will happen.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#413196 Jan 4, 2013
preston wrote:
HURRY UP AND ACT LIKE A SMART ALEC , LTM.
I want to go to bed and I want to see what kind of ignorant response I receive from you.
why is it that 90% of the catholics on here are so mean and nasty like you? is that part of their man made traditions? people tell you the truth about your church and you become very mean and nasty, i don't understand it,if you can't handle the truth,you shouldn't be on here.we have seen the churches true colors and it is red, as in all the blood they spilled over the centuries in the name of god.WHAT A JOKE.speaking of jokes how come he is not stopping the bombings in africa of "HIS" true church?? do you know why?

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