Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Jul 10, 2007 Read more: CBC News 582,517
The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#412847 Jan 2, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Well it's true you listen to the Pope and put his word ahead of the Word of God, what are we suppose to think?
Huh?? We put the Popes word ahead of the word of God?

I can officially call you a liar too. Because, you are well aware by now, of the Church's teachings. So when you throw silly stuff like that out, its deliberately being deceitful, and you know it.
marge

Ames, IA

#412848 Jan 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
So what she said is she's not a liar, and then proceeded to tell a lie. LOL!
She's a hopeless bigot. Her definition of a "reasonable discussion" is to let her say whatever she darn well pleases, whether it's true or not, and then pout when she's called on it. If she didn't lie, then she wouldn't be called a liar. Simple. Even a child can understand it.
Excuse me Regina but day after day we show you from the Bible where and how the catholic teaching is wrong and misguided, which clearly proves to everyone you follow the pope rather than the Word.

She did not lie but is showing you the truth because she loves you and cares what happens to you, the opposite of a bigot dear.
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#412849 Jan 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
KayMarie
God's grace and peace....
There is a problem with penance, like you write....
Another way to say it is, that saying a few Hail Mary's and Our Father's is going to be enough to "pay" back for sins committed. And the answer for me is, "No." There is no real way to repay God for his Grace and Mercy.
So for this reason, one must resolve to not sin. And the best way so far is to practice in a practical way works of mercy(feeding the hungry, thirst, clothing the poor, visiting the sick, prisoners, helping the stranger) which lead to virtue, and gets one out of the bad habits of sinful ways, or practice some devotion.
"We need concrete acts to counteract habits. Because our sorrow for sin is sometimes imperfect (though adequate), we do penance. Because Christ joins our penances to His own perfect act of satisfaction for our sins and offers them for us to the Father, we do penances. Because we receive something, yes, ineffable, through no merit of our own we do penances in reparation for our faults and in gratitude for the pardon we have been given."
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/09/quaeritur-am-i...

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412850 Jan 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
TBS
You love beating people with this verse.
And when they give you reasons not to beat. You don't listen, and you could care less to understand. Instead, in a frenzy, you do it all the more.
You are a real man....
You live by man's law.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...
This law was given to the people, through Moses, by God because of the hardness of their hearts....And you have proved it.
I know that you are doing your best to insult me, but you have failed miserably.

If I gave you 100 reasons why 2 + 2 = 5, would I be right? Would you be a hard head for not listening to me and agreeing with me?

You have proven nothing. Your god came up with this law and he never rescinded it.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#412851 Jan 2, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
The RCC claims to have done "scientific tests" on two or more real-presence miracle Eucharists.
But those tests were all done in the 1970's and early 1980's -- before DNA and other amazing forensic techniques -- which are accepted as evidence in a Court of Law today.
So why not help to save souls by testing anew, using this far more advanced science?
Isn't that why God revealed so much to mankind anyhow?
RCC -- time to put up or shut up.
If you claim spiritual superiority, then stop hiding and prove it.
Why?

So you can get back on the computer after the results are in and claim they tampered with it? lol

Get real...nothing will ever convince you. You're a bigot. Bigots are not easily changed.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#412852 Jan 2, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Fun, you jumped in late.
You say you have proof? OK, the RCC claims tested samples years ago, and surprise -- it's human heart tissue.
So do again. Only now we have DNA and other forensic tests that can tell us much more.
Sure, it's human heart tissue.(I wonder if anyone was murdered?)
So why not test again and show us that all these miracles contain the same DNA???
What's so odd about such a request?
Again -- the RCC tested in the 1970's, so do it again with the amazing new science that God has only recently revealed to us?
We BOTH know the answer to that question, don't we.
By the way, why are you telling us this? Go tell the Church.

Catholics are not required to believe any of these Miracles. They are never discussed. Never preached. Never taught to Catholic students.
Heck, I just learned about 3 more events from YOU!! I been to Church thousands of times; I went to a Catholic grade school; I read tons of books on Catholicism related stuff.
But today is the only time I ever came across these Eucharistic Miracles (except for the Lanciano one. I did hear about that before).
Irish

Dublin, Ireland

#412853 Jan 2, 2013
Isnt it logical to know they have to say that, as they believe in their faith and church.Saying otherwise is lack of faith in their church.
So who cares what they say.All others say theirs is the one true faith.
I dont care what anyone else believes. But for me Catholicism is the one true faith.If i said other wise i would be not very good catholic.lol
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#412854 Jan 2, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
The RCC claims to have done "scientific tests" on two or more real-presence miracle Eucharists.
But those tests were all done in the 1970's and early 1980's -- before DNA and other amazing forensic techniques -- which are accepted as evidence in a Court of Law today.
So why not help to save souls by testing anew, using this far more advanced science?
Isn't that why God revealed so much to mankind anyhow?
RCC -- time to put up or shut up.
If you claim spiritual superiority, then stop hiding and prove it.
I think you are doing a brilliant job of (inadvertantly) spreading positive news about these events.
I know your intention is to trash the Church and mock these events. But I think you are really turning people towards these stories in a positive way.
I read a few myself for the first time from your link, and I was inspired by it. For the non catholic out there, it may be the 'push' they need to come into the Church!
Just think of the horror you'd face if you realized you just converted people INTO Catholicism!
On behalf of the RCC, I thank you for your diligent daily obsession with Eucharistic Miracles!
Oops.. Oh the irony. lol

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#412855 Jan 2, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that you are doing your best to insult me, but you have failed miserably.
If I gave you 100 reasons why 2 + 2 = 5, would I be right? Would you be a hard head for not listening to me and agreeing with me?
You have proven nothing. Your god came up with this law and he never rescinded it.
TBS

Sorry TBS the New Law came about....You still live under the misconception(whether of ignorance or misinformed) of an ill-formed conscience of interpretting the O.T. laws. And the O.T. laws which were a forerunner of the New Law established in Jesus Christ.

John 8:

34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412856 Jan 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
TBS
Sorry TBS the New Law came about....You still live under the misconception(whether of ignorance or misinformed) of an ill-formed conscience of interpretting the O.T. laws. And the O.T. laws which were a forerunner of the New Law established in Jesus Christ.
John 8:
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Which jesus quote is correct?

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#412858 Jan 2, 2013
03Jan13.....

.....BobLoblah would like to wish ALL good practicing REAL Christians hereIN, a very Happy New Year.

Ps:.....and may you prosper well toooooooooo.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
truth

Perth, Australia

#412859 Jan 2, 2013
your future slave is more smart then you today..
your slave become with words ''nikad rob=its mean never slave..its mean chalange for something or someone..robotic..
robotic as slave is much more smarter then you today in this time in this human form.
Its coming in near future not far away..when we or can be face challenge or distinction of this form human civilization.

Toward total controlling robotic innovation or technology.

Now do you liked your slave=robotic innovation bit you in all aspect.

Don't asked..you can fill or contact telepathic even with your mind super robotic mind...its not you..its them who try contact you.
Its mean you are not worthy..how much you worthy when your robotic slave can beat you in all aspect.
truth

Perth, Australia

#412860 Jan 2, 2013
Love..no love not exist for robotic innovation..but magnet yes..this magnet as planet..could you imagen that love as magnet..Are you for sure you are smart to much when you try let down others.
Did we need your diploma?..be honest with you not.

25x days around Sun is free ticket by whom?
Please not judge don't burn me..

Did you liked my U?

Please tell me what deference between U and R!

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
http://www.google.com.au/search...
truth

Perth, Australia

#412861 Jan 2, 2013
you not give me answer 4 horns altar 3000 years ago..
Are you for sure you are smart..noooooooooooooooooooooo ooo

Please tell me what you can do with 4x UUUU as magnet over our Sun.

You don't liked my U because of ustati don't you..i love my people remember that for ever.
If you liked play as well hurt others you need know

''tiny toy as innovation can challenge future of universe''..your Sun system can disappear become cool.
yep as well small all lot not to much big as you really think.

Are you for sure ants is not colony..why they small..they can be bigger we as them as smaller..or about what your sun can be smaller not any more bigger..think about your words when you try let down others..

Pray holy spirit soul of my soul..come lead me help me..
Please tell me what stay in my subconsciousness now when my mind start simply fly words by words.
Don't look over my grammar words..i don't care to much..i express my self as i pronaucment on my language if i mist letters don't worry meaning is some.

What you can do with your 4 horns under altar?

Please what can you do with 4 gigant UUUU magnet over your sun system..don't joke with me...i am going home to my people..i am going show them underline where lay connection with heavenly body..can be ready for destruction your entire innovation.
Did I love that?
no
I don't liked nothing so ever from your new innovation or computerization..not at all.
I am not jealous i am very angry ..why..i have right to do..its conciseness=razum= understanding where are com-from destruction..trough innovation..Are you for sure others can control..nooooooooooooooooooo
We as human is not on that stage...i am very angry about new innovation..its as toy in hand of kids.

Are you for sure you don't liked 4XUUUU?

Much more ..I am very angry over you all.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412862 Jan 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="ReginaM"
Yes, you "re-posted" a web link provided by an atheist who's obsessed with the Catholic Church, re-posted it twice I might add, without bothering to ask a Catholic about it first. My point exactly.
Ditto regarding what you've "seen with your own eyes". Much better for you to publicly announce that a "nun" snuck behind a curtain or went into an adjacent room where she thought no one could see her so she could guzzle the communion wine. Um, yeah, we've been more than patient with you. Waaaay more.
**********
Re-posted it TWICE? Come on, tell the truth...
KM
~~~

All the congregants that attended that saw the nun turn up the Chalice and drain it.

You can call us liars as much as you please... but it does not erase the truth...

if shes did not want it publicly announced ...she should not have done it in public..

As for your patience ...I did not realize that we had that much control over you....

One thing for sure you will not/cannot censor us....no matter how angry you get.
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#412863 Jan 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way, why are you telling us this? Go tell the Church.
Catholics are not required to believe any of these Miracles. They are never discussed. Never preached. Never taught to Catholic students.
Heck, I just learned about 3 more events from YOU!! I been to Church thousands of times; I went to a Catholic grade school; I read tons of books on Catholicism related stuff.
But today is the only time I ever came across these Eucharistic Miracles (except for the Lanciano one. I did hear about that before).
Good reply.

That's why I post the links.

The church will not listen to me. I need your help.
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#412864 Jan 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are doing a brilliant job of (inadvertantly) spreading positive news about these events.
I know your intention is to trash the Church and mock these events. But I think you are really turning people towards these stories in a positive way.
I read a few myself for the first time from your link, and I was inspired by it. For the non catholic out there, it may be the 'push' they need to come into the Church!
Just think of the horror you'd face if you realized you just converted people INTO Catholicism!
On behalf of the RCC, I thank you for your diligent daily obsession with Eucharistic Miracles!
Oops.. Oh the irony. lol
Other than misinterpreting my "intention" ... another good reply.

I do see myself as helping to bring more people to the Church, through knowledge and hope -- not ancient dogma, mysticism, and fraud.

But I can do little without the Church's help. Be willing to prove it -- or lose it.

No more fraud on display in any true Roman Catholic Church.

What say Clay?
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#412865 Jan 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Why?
So you can get back on the computer after the results are in and claim they tampered with it? lol
Get real...nothing will ever convince you. You're a bigot. Bigots are not easily changed.
It is not about me.

It's about saving souls.

No more fraud in any true Roman Catholic Church.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412866 Jan 2, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not about me.
It's about saving souls.
No more fraud in any true Roman Catholic Church.
~~~

Where did you ever get the Idea that the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH was

ever about saving souls...?

As far as they are concerned...they feel that they are God's frozen chosen...and the rest of us can thaw out in hell.

From their actions on this forum...Saving souls IS APPARENTLY the last thing THEY HAVE IN MIND..

THEY DON'T PRESENT CHRIST.. they PRESENT AN evil APOSTATE

(so called )church

THAT ... IS AS FULL OF SIN ...AND DEBAUCHERY ... AS A POSSUM IS WOOD TICKS.

Is it not a wonder the Jesus said...of those such as them

Mat_15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

that their purpose is.
Clay

United States

#412867 Jan 2, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Other than misinterpreting my "intention" ... another good reply.
I do see myself as helping to bring more people to the Church, through knowledge and hope -- not ancient dogma, mysticism, and fraud.
But I can do little without the Church's help. Be willing to prove it -- or lose it.
No more fraud on display in any true Roman Catholic Church.
What say Clay?
Why don't you see that these do not matter to the relevance of the teaching.

Remember...the Church taught this dogma BEFORE these miracles. NOT after.

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