Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 589984 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#412658 Jan 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
When you use quotation marks it indicates you are quoting the person verbatim. Robert did not use the phrase 'use sacraments because God works through them'. We don't "use" the sacraments. And yes, the sacraments are salvific because Jesus said they are.
**********
I didn't use quotation marks, only a couple of apostrophe's.
KM
Lol. Ok Kay.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412659 Jan 1, 2013
who="preston" the other day, reggie told me to watch out for the game being played out. I knew what you were doing when you threw out that I am pretty smart with my posts.
I didnt need you to give me any credit for my posts. the neg's that I get are proof that I hit the nail on the head.
and yeahhere are some protestants on here who agree with some of teh trash spoken on this forum. LTM taking sides with Orville after he posted that he was praying for God to kill me is proof that you are lying again. but considering how ignorant LTM is, nothing surprises me coming from her, I just considered the source

**********

We know that you are smart, Preston. You tell us so all the time.

KM
Clay

United States

#412660 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
I'll come back and finish explaining the John 1:1 confussion...I need a break for now....
Aviela, the Bible is not to be read like that. You guys zig zag across the Holy Book like its a secret hidden code.
And you must agree, anyone can read those verses and see whatever they wanna see.

So then it comes down to who is the authority.

If its the Jehovah's Witness, then why? How come you guys didn't appear until a hundred yrs ago?
Why did God let something as important as the Ministry of Jesus Christ, get completely messed up for 1,800 + yrs?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412661 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued

John 1:18-"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he hath declared him."

John 20:27-28-"Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

Romans 9:5-"...Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen" (NKJV).

Philippians 2:5-8-"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

"'Who was in the form of God' are his [the Apostle Paul's] words: and they are words than which no others could be chosen which would more explicitly or with more directness assert the deity of...Jesus Christ.... Let us remember that the phraseology which Paul here employs was the popular usage of his day, though first given general vogue by the Aristotelian philosophy: and that it was accordingly the most natural language for strongly asserting the deity of Christ which could suggest itself to him....'Form,' in a word, is equivalent to our phrase 'specific character.'... With God...the 'form' is that body of qualities which distinguish Him from all other spiritual beings, which constitute Him God, and without which He would not be God. What Paul asserts, then, when he says that Christ Jesus existed in the 'form of God,' is that He had all those characterizing qualities which make God God, the presence of which constitutes God, and in the absence of which God does not exist. He who is 'in the form of God' is God."

Colossians 1:15-16-"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible...."

cont
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412662 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued

cont
When the Apostle Paul says that Christ is the firstborn over all creation, he does not mean that Christ is the first created being. For he goes on to explain that Jesus Christ created everything in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible. Jesus Christ could not create Himself. The idea among various cults that Christ is the first created being is an impossible absurdity.

Colossians 2:8-10-"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power."

1 Timothy 1:16-17-"Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 2:3-4-"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 3:16-"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

1 Timothy 6:14-16-"...the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: Which in his times he shall show, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

Titus 1:3-"But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour."

Titus 2:10-"...showing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things."

Titus 2:13-"Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ" (NKJV).

Hebrews 1:1-3-"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high."

Hebrews 1:8-"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Jude 25-"To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever. Amen."

cont
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412663 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued

cont
Jesus Christ Clearly Taught His Own Divinity

Revelation 21:6-7-"And he [Jesus Christ] said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."

John 8:57-59-"Then the Jews said to Him,'You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?' Jesus said to them,'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.' Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple..." (NKJV).

John 5:17-26-"But Jesus answered them,'My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.' Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. Then Jesus answered and said to them,...'For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.... For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself'" (NKJV).

John 10:28-39-"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them,... If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand."

Mark 2:5-11-"When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?...[Jesus] said unto them, But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,(he saith to the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house" (cf. Lk. 5:20-24).

The scribes' theology was correct: "Who can forgive sins but God only?" Jesus didn't disagree with their conclusion; rather, through the miraculous healing He proved that He in fact was God and had the authority to forgive sins.

The Spirit-inspired writers of the New Testament applied Old Testament passages which specifically refer God-Jehovah to Jesus Christ; therefore, Jesus must be God-Jehovah.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412664 Jan 1, 2013
who="preston" another accusation{dictator communist{ that you have no proof to verify that statement.
do you and your husband realize how stupid that you two really are?
Obama was born without a'golden spoon" in his mouth like the mormon was, and he achieved the American Dream, going all the way to the White House, and for that reason,people should show him that much more respect, unlike your local chapter of the KKK, which is probably the only group that your old man could minister your peculiar brand of hatred

**********

I have lots of proof...and his skin color has nothing to do with that proof.

Except on his side, for he hates all those old rich white men. Guess that hits you, huh?

KayMarie
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#412665 Jan 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
You mean like mocking the pope for saying the angels were not singing when in fact he was right and you were wrong? And then fighting for weeks to avoid admitting you were wrong? Does admitting you were wrong about a bible verse to Catholics go against your religion?
**********
You didn't hear the Pope's Christmas message in which he emphasized the ANGELS SINGING? Seems he might have reconsidered...
KayMarie
Wow. Yeah, he said essentially the same thing you said, like it was singing to his ears. The BIG difference between you and the pope is that YOU came on here stirring up trouble by mocking him when you were wrong in what you were mocking him about.

You still won't admit it. You're one of the more stubborn bigots I've ever come across. But you have no problem with bigotry as long as its directed at the Catholic Church. Kay, you talk a good game, but your heart is far from God.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#412666 Jan 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued
cont
Jesus Christ Clearly Taught His Own Divinity
Revelation 21:6-7-"And he [Jesus Christ] said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."
John 8:57-59-"Then the Jews said to Him,'You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?' Jesus said to them,'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.' Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple..." (NKJV).
John 5:17-26-"But Jesus answered them,'My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.' Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. Then Jesus answered and said to them,...'For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.... For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself'" (NKJV).
John 10:28-39-"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them,... If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand."
Mark 2:5-11-"When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?...[Jesus] said unto them, But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,(he saith to the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house" (cf. Lk. 5:20-24).
The scribes' theology was correct: "Who can forgive sins but God only?" Jesus didn't disagree with their conclusion; rather, through the miraculous healing He proved that He in fact was God and had the authority to forgive sins.
The Spirit-inspired writers of the New Testament applied Old Testament passages which specifically refer God-Jehovah to Jesus Christ; therefore, Jesus must be God-Jehovah.
Do you believe Jesus was praying to himself the whole time he was on earth?
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#412667 Jan 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued
cont
Jesus Christ Clearly Taught His Own Divinity
Revelation 21:6-7-"And he [Jesus Christ] said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."
John 8:57-59-"Then the Jews said to Him,'You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?' Jesus said to them,'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.' Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple..." (NKJV).
John 5:17-26-"But Jesus answered them,'My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.' Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. Then Jesus answered and said to them,...'For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.... For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself'" (NKJV).
John 10:28-39-"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them,... If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand."
Mark 2:5-11-"When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?...[Jesus] said unto them, But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,(he saith to the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house" (cf. Lk. 5:20-24).
The scribes' theology was correct: "Who can forgive sins but God only?" Jesus didn't disagree with their conclusion; rather, through the miraculous healing He proved that He in fact was God and had the authority to forgive sins.
The Spirit-inspired writers of the New Testament applied Old Testament passages which specifically refer God-Jehovah to Jesus Christ; therefore, Jesus must be God-Jehovah.
When Jesus got baptised and a voice from heaven said this is my son. Who was that speaking in heaven? Was that Jesus' voice?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412668 Jan 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="TheBlackSheep"
Why were you miserable and lonely? Do you think that every Atheists is miserable and lonely? Maybe you think most of us are just too stupid to realize how miserable and lonely we are.
When I attended church, the feeling that if I forgot to ask for forgiveness for one sin, god would send me to hell to be tortured forever, was a pretty miserable feeling!
**********
So sad that you felt that God would send you to hell for forgetting to ask forgiveness for ONE sin! Your church should have taught you that God's love and forgiveness reaches beyond our 'forgetfulness'.
So you decided to just go to hell?
KayMarie
Oops! I almost forgot!
********** < btw, I cannot believe that you would lie about such a stupid thing! LOL! You must be one hell of a person!

That is precisely what my point is! How many sins, that you forget to ask forgiveness for, will god allow? Or is it just believers go to heaven and non-believers don't?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412669 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Do you believe Jesus was praying to himself the whole time he was on earth?
Of course! If you believe in the trinity, then you believe god killed himself to appease himself. LOL!

So Aviela, was jesus just the son of god? If we are all god's children, what makes jesus so special? LOL!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412670 Jan 1, 2013
who="Clay"
Aviela, the Bible is not to be read like that. You guys zig zag across the Holy Book like its a secret hidden code.
And you must agree, anyone can read those verses and see whatever they wanna see.
So then it comes down to who is the authority.
If its the Jehovah's Witness, then why? How come you guys didn't appear until a hundred yrs ago?
Why did God let something as important as the Ministry of Jesus Christ, get completely messed up for 1,800 + yrs?

**********

The CC fought for years to keep the truth down...people tried to preach it, and died for their effort. Martin Luther decided to post it publicly, and the printing press made it possible to get the truth to the people.

Truth pressed to earth will (did) rise again...

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412671 Jan 1, 2013
who=" Anthony MN"
Wow. Yeah, he said essentially the same thing you said, like it was singing to his ears. The BIG difference between you and the pope is that YOU came on here stirring up trouble by mocking him when you were wrong in what you were mocking him about.
You still won't admit it. You're one of the more stubborn bigots I've ever come across. But you have no problem with bigotry as long as its directed at the Catholic Church. Kay, you talk a good game, but your heart is far from God.

**********

Bigot? You Catholics certainly are nasty. My Protestant parents, ministers and teachers told me that Jesus leads us to holiness speaking.

I DID write that I was mistaken on that verse...but of course you didn't see that one...

KayMarie
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412672 Jan 1, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>you are correct. my wife is never on here and for that mater, many of the spouses of the regulars are not on here either, so what does that have to do with you lying constantly?
my wife works 12 hours shifts as acharge Nurse, and then she has to sleep, which leaves her very litle time for recreation, and companionship with myself and our children and grandchildren.
regardless of that, if she was on here, she wouldnt be lying like you do all of the time.
as far as my "bent fingers", that is not an excuse, it is a reason as to why I mispell words often, such as teh for the, ahve for have.at least i am not stupid enough to misspell a common word like civil and spell it "seville", or like your old man who spelled hijacked as hy jacked making it two words.lol.
I have had spelling and typing problems for many years on this forum and that is well known by those who have been on here for any length of time, and I dont use it for any "pity" that I might get on this forum, LTM has throwed up me speaking of my injuries and health problems but I had brought them up when I was asked why I wasnt on here for months over a year ago, by karen among others.
anyway, if anyone brings them up as an indictment against me, it shows how pitiful their life is, not mine. I do the best that I am able to do, my body is in terrible shape but my mind is sharp and alert, and I think God for that, and my conscience is not seared like that of you and your old man, who think nothing about lying on here and deceiving people who like LTM are as ignorant as you two are.
and I could care less if you wish to attack me if I say something to others. but WHEN I SAY SOEMTNING TO SOMEONE, IT IS AFTER THEY HAVE ATTACKED ME FIRST.
Maybe you don't allow your wife on here, you are a very controlling guy Preston. Maybe you don't want her to see how nasty you are with people on here.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#412673 Jan 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued
cont
Jesus Christ Clearly Taught His Own Divinity
Revelation 21:6-7-"And he [Jesus Christ] said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."
John 8:57-59-"Then the Jews said to Him,'You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?' Jesus said to them,'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.' Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple..." (NKJV).
John 5:17-26-"But Jesus answered them,'My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.' Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. Then Jesus answered and said to them,...'For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.... For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself'" (NKJV).
John 10:28-39-"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them,... If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand."
Mark 2:5-11-"When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?...[Jesus] said unto them, But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,(he saith to the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house" (cf. Lk. 5:20-24).
The scribes' theology was correct: "Who can forgive sins but God only?" Jesus didn't disagree with their conclusion; rather, through the miraculous healing He proved that He in fact was God and had the authority to forgive sins.
The Spirit-inspired writers of the New Testament applied Old Testament passages which specifically refer God-Jehovah to Jesus Christ; therefore, Jesus must be God-Jehovah.
Jehovah and Jesus are 2 separate beings. Jehovah is the alpha and omega. No one has seen him and lived. Jesus is his son. Just like the angels are called sons of God.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412674 Jan 1, 2013
who="TheBlackSheep"
Oops! I almost forgot!
********** < btw, I cannot believe that you would lie about such a stupid thing! LOL! You must be one hell of a person!
That is precisely what my point is! How many sins, that you forget to ask forgiveness for, will god allow? Or is it just believers go to heaven and non-believers don't?

**********

God knows the heart. He judges righteously.

IF one truly believes in (trusts Him) He will get them there.

If one rejects His love...well...I guess they will find out.

Believing is not just mouthing words...

KayMarie
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#412675 Jan 1, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course! If you believe in the trinity, then you believe god killed himself to appease himself. LOL!
So Aviela, was jesus just the son of god? If we are all god's children, what makes jesus so special? LOL!
Hello Blacksheep. JW do not believe in the trinity. The word trinity is not in the Bible. The trinity belief came from the pagans. You cannot kill God. Jesus is the son of God. The Jews killed Jesus because they said he was a blasphemer calling himself son of God. None in Bible times ever thought he was God.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412676 Jan 1, 2013
who="Aviela" Jehovah and Jesus are 2 separate beings. Jehovah is the alpha and omega. No one has seen him and lived. Jesus is his son. Just like the angels are called sons of God.

**********

Do you believe that satan is brother to Jesus?

Until we know everything, we cannot explain God. But Jesus is not 'just another' anything. God gave His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.

Best to just take what the Bible has to say about it, until we see Him.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412677 Jan 1, 2013
who="Aviela" Hello Blacksheep. JW do not believe in the trinity. The word trinity is not in the Bible. The trinity belief came from the pagans. You cannot kill God. Jesus is the son of God. The Jews killed Jesus because they said he was a blasphemer calling himself son of God. None in Bible times ever thought he was God.

**********

So JW's are Jews?

KM

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