Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#412529 Dec 31, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I am sorry, but it wasnt done to clear up anything, but rather to whitewash what they are trying to do by taking away from His actual Death., it is His blood that takes away our sins, and a person can go into your church every time the door is open and take this supper and still not be Saved. and Paul knew that. as I said, they were Jewish and would not have known any Christian traditions, and to be honest, you nor I know what Paul was telling Timothy, but ONE thing that I do know is this, it had nothing to do with any rcc teachings.
and please dont bring up Iggie to me, this guy was a kook of the highest order. concerning clement, nothing much is known about him, so how you can reference him is beyond me. he did write a letter and was said to have authored another but this is nor a proven fact. and his one letter said nothing about any mass, did it?
Justin says this and it is so vague but befitting his status as a philosopher .{The Eucharist
And this food is called among us Eucharist, of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and {[who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins}}}THIS IS PATHETIC}, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined.
Ignatius of Antioch, Disciple of the Apostle John:

"Let the Eucharist be held VALID which is offered by the Bishop or by the one whom the Bishop has put in charge (a Priest)
Wherever the Bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church"

110 AD

Epistle to the Romans

"Be ye careful therefore to observe one Eucharist (for there is one flesh of Our Lord Jesus Christ and one cup unto union in His blood; there is one alter, as there is one Bishop, together with the Priests and Deacons my fellow servants).

"take note to those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ who has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God...they abstain form the Eucharist because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ; flesh which suffered for our sins and the Father, in His goodness,raised up again. They who deny this gift are perishing in their disputes"

www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/eucharist-q.h...

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412530 Dec 31, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="TheBlackSheep"
You haven't noticed that your replies look different from everyone else's?
**********
No, I have not.
KM
How many of us have to put "**********" between their post and our reply? Just you.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412531 Dec 31, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
Your logic just doesn't have all of the necessary pieces. If you don't think that Jesus sacrificed anything, just lay down, let someone drive nails in you, and press a thorn crown on your head. Spend hours struggling for your breath, while all of your blood is pumped from your body.
That is not part of the discussion. Your myth says that he suffered, OK, he suffered. But he did not give up his life, if he is still alive today. If he knew that he was going to be given back his life, then he gave up nothing.
confrinting with the word wrote:
Certainly He lived...
Yes, according to mythology.
confrinting with the word wrote:
even as you are going to live...
I am already living, thanks.
confrinting with the word wrote:
somewhere. He sacrificed Himself so that we might be made alive, even as He is alive.
So, he did not give up his life?
confrinting with the word wrote:
He SUFFERED painfully for your/our sake...so that you would not have to suffer.
If god did not want us to suffer, he would not have created Lucifer. He had a plan, before anything was created. He knew what was Lucifer was going to do before Lucifer was ever created! And he created him anyway. And you sit there and tell me that he doesn't want anyone to suffer. That's BS according to your mythology!

If I didn't want my creation to suffer, I damn sure wouldn't have put the devil and all his demons or the tree in the garden where my beloved creation was. That would be stupid!
confrinting with the word wrote:
Want to pay for your own sin?
What is a sin? Is killing a sin? Then why did god order people to kill?
confrinting with the word wrote:
Accept His gift, or do it yourself. You won't be able to bear a moment of it...nor will you be able to escape it.
KayMarie
Don't you just love the fear tactics! God will punish you and you won't be able to bear a moment of it...nor will you be able to escape it; So Love Him Or Else!!
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#412532 Dec 31, 2012
Never in all of the bible did Jesus perform a miracle in which there was not positive evidence that a miracle had taken place. Why does the RCC teach that this is an exception?
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck and feels like a duck and tastes like a duck, it is most assuredly a duck.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412533 Dec 31, 2012
who="preston"you do know that I responded to that senile bag of bones that you are maried to when I spoke about your looks AFTER HE SPOKE OF MINE. RIGHT?
you know as much about the bible as he does which is zero. and is comparable to that of Orville and his ignorance .orville says that jesus never paid any taxes, you say that Jesus spoke in tongues, mr fraud knows everything(he thinks) but in reality, he is clueless

**********

If you know so much about the Bible, WHY DON'T YOU WRITE ABOUT IT, instead of pouring out so much ugliness?

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412534 Dec 31, 2012
who="TheBlackSheep"
That is not part of the discussion. Your myth says that he suffered, OK, he suffered. But he did not give up his life, if he is still alive today. If he knew that he was going to be given back his life, then he gave up nothing.
<quoted text>
Yes, according to mythology.
<quoted text>
I am already living, thanks.
<quoted text>
So, he did not give up his life?
<quoted text>
If god did not want us to suffer, he would not have created Lucifer. He had a plan, before anything was created. He knew what was Lucifer was going to do before Lucifer was ever created! And he created him anyway. And you sit there and tell me that he doesn't want anyone to suffer. That's BS according to your mythology!
If I didn't want my creation to suffer, I damn sure wouldn't have put the devil and all his demons or the tree in the garden where my beloved creation was. That would be stupid!
<quoted text>
What is a sin? Is killing a sin? Then why did god order people to kill?
<quoted text>
Don't you just love the fear tactics! God will punish you and you won't be able to bear a moment of it...nor will you be able to escape it; So Love Him Or Else!!

**********

Lucifer is so much like some of your kind. You were fearfully and wonderfully made...a creature worthy of God's fellowship.

BUT you CHOSE to mock Him, and shame Him. In so doing YOU are fallen into mockery and shame. Lucifer thinks that he is as, or better than, God.
He has lots of company.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412535 Dec 31, 2012
who="TheBlackSheep"
You haven't noticed that your replies look different from everyone else's?
**********
No, I have not.
KM

**********

On second thought...yes, I have noticed. My posts aren't filled with ugly names against people. I can give answers, not insults.

KayMarie

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412536 Dec 31, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="TheBlackSheep"
You haven't noticed that your replies look different from everyone else's?
**********
No, I have not.
KM
**********
On second thought...yes, I have noticed. My posts aren't filled with ugly names against people. I can give answers, not insults.
KayMarie
And that is the only thing you see different? Is that what you call being honest?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412537 Dec 31, 2012
who="LTM "
I had a dream about 9-11 a month or so before it happened KM.
I saw one tower with a man sitting at the top in a wooden chair, people were bowing down at the bases of the tower worshipping it, they were happy laughing , then everything changed people started to run and scream, blocks of concrete was falling on top of people, and the man who was sitting at the top was now riding on a block of concrete that was on top of peoples back.
When I woke up the morning of 9-11 the T.V. was on and at 9:30 when I saw people running and the plane going through the tower, everything was the same as my dream except the Plane, I only saw one tower fall. I am still amazed that it happened in the States.

**********

Very revealing.
KM

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412538 Dec 31, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
Lucifer is so much like some of your kind. You were fearfully and wonderfully made...a creature worthy of God's fellowship.
You are judging me? How does god feel about that?
confrinting with the word wrote:
BUT you CHOSE to mock Him, and shame Him. In so doing YOU are fallen into mockery and shame. Lucifer thinks that he is as, or better than, God.
He has lots of company.
KayMarie
I would never claim to be better or worse than a mythological character! Never!

But if your god did exist, he would know what I needed to believe in him. Since he did not make us all the same, he must know that I would question that which cannot be proven.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412539 Dec 31, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="LTM "
I had a dream about 9-11 a month or so before it happened KM.
I saw one tower with a man sitting at the top in a wooden chair, people were bowing down at the bases of the tower worshipping it, they were happy laughing , then everything changed people started to run and scream, blocks of concrete was falling on top of people, and the man who was sitting at the top was now riding on a block of concrete that was on top of peoples back.
When I woke up the morning of 9-11 the T.V. was on and at 9:30 when I saw people running and the plane going through the tower, everything was the same as my dream except the Plane, I only saw one tower fall. I am still amazed that it happened in the States.
**********
Very revealing.
KM
I had a dream last night that ltm had a dream about 9-11 and was going to tell us about it today!!
preston

Waverly, OH

#412540 Dec 31, 2012
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree Preston that you do know more, I would never argue that with you.
So does satan whats your point.
I dont know. what was your point by acting like a smartalec?
Fun Facts

Saginaw, MI

#412541 Dec 31, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Very good! If I am at a charity function and I give $10,000 to them, knowing full well that Bill Gates will give me whatever money I give, right back, did I sacrifice anything?
Should I be lifted up on peoples shoulders for giving the most, even though the only reason I gave it, is because I knew that I would get it right back?
That is not a sacrifice!


you may have overlooked...

http://www.usccb.org/bible/psalms/22
Questions?
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/messianic_pr...

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412542 Dec 31, 2012
Fun Facts wrote:
you have overlooked...

Very good! If I am at a charity function and I give $10,000 to them, knowing full well that Bill Gates will give me whatever money I give, right back, did I sacrifice anything?
Should I be lifted up on peoples shoulders for giving the most, even though the only reason I gave it, is because I knew that I would get it right back?
That is not a sacrifice!
Live Action

Piedmont, OK

#412543 Dec 31, 2012
The Roman Catholick Church is the beast and is without a teacher but for satan.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#412544 Dec 31, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not part of the discussion. Your myth says that he suffered, OK, he suffered. But he did not give up his life, if he is still alive today. If he knew that he was going to be given back his life, then he gave up nothing.
<quoted text>
Yes, according to mythology.
<quoted text>
I am already living, thanks.
<quoted text>
So, he did not give up his life?
<quoted text>
If god did not want us to suffer, he would not have created Lucifer. He had a plan, before anything was created. He knew what was Lucifer was going to do before Lucifer was ever created! And he created him anyway. And you sit there and tell me that he doesn't want anyone to suffer. That's BS according to your mythology!
If I didn't want my creation to suffer, I damn sure wouldn't have put the devil and all his demons or the tree in the garden where my beloved creation was. That would be stupid!
<quoted text>
What is a sin? Is killing a sin? Then why did god order people to kill?
<quoted text>
Don't you just love the fear tactics! God will punish you and you won't be able to bear a moment of it...nor will you be able to escape it; So Love Him Or Else!!
He suffered and died as human being. Adam brought sin and death. Jesus bought us back with his life. Adam was perfect Jesus came as a perfect man to. If we follow Jesus we could be part of the great crowd who will make it through armageddon and never see death. Or if we do die we have the hope of the resurrection in the future. The whole purpose of Jesus resurrecting dead loved ones in his day was to give us a preview of the goodness that's in store for us. All is not doom and gloom. You have the hope to see your loved ones here on earth.
truth

Perth, Australia

#412545 Dec 31, 2012
Happy New Year!
truth

Perth, Australia

#412546 Dec 31, 2012
Why God created death?
Did death come trough man or woman?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#412547 Dec 31, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>30Dec12.....
.....Just about ALL of these hateful, hypocritical, hAtheists have this problem.
Ps: By their thinking, should someOne in their neighborhood (forget about their families) rape some woman, then ALL of them are guilty of being 'Rapists'.
They are more to be pitied as schidt-for-brains.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
You are certainly a freak of nature. Sht for brains.
truth

Perth, Australia

#412548 Dec 31, 2012
Can your friend of great Real Creator creation become cool?
If they come cool under which reason Creator created them!
Whats deference between what you see and what you don't see or did not know to see?

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