Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
truth

Perth, Australia

#412428 Dec 30, 2012
god creted everything and say i give to man and woman under command..now..you liked limite..who can and who can't.

Jesus Christ words is perfect..no limite.

Did I hurt you?
I am sorry if I am.
I think you make my inspiration work..my subconsciousness can talk.

Please tell me..how you call people who simple can make forgetful=brisanje memorije demantia..is that crime..if yes please tell me how many victim from smart deadly ow-full diploma.
Who used that diploma?Is that nice call people forgetful..yes and no..must be explain why yes why not.If yes!
Please tell me is that crime?
How many diploma used trough institutional harassment..political racial as well many others phobic diploma..did law exist about that toward type of that people..or victim need be as law act by-themselves eye for eye teeth for teeth?
If law not exist for victim..trough diploma which is cover up but still enjoyed hurt others.

Many diploma can be perfect but on long run ow-full
great error.
concerned parishoner

Waverly, OH

#412429 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Why did you not give Biblical validation ...to refute my challenge to the Roman Catholics Churches dynasty,... instead of calling me a fool?
Name calling.... is proof positive .
that you have no answers..
It is also proof that you don't care that Jesus said...
Mat_5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
why in the WORLD must you continue to use Bible verses that dont have anything to do with the conversation?

Clay is NOT your brother.(literal) if Spiritual, then prove it.

I would think after over 60 years(so you say), that maybe, just maybe you might have learned something about it{Bible}.

you are probably the most frustrating person that I have ever seen, you are supposed to be a minister, yet your knowledge of what the Bible actually says and means is nil,void, and Raca.

I would love to come on line and see you post a Bible verse that is appropriate to the discussion at hand.
preston

Waverly, OH

#412430 Dec 30, 2012
sorry about that, forgot to change id.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412431 Dec 30, 2012
Clay:
Wait second...are you saying you have shown the CC is not the true Church through Apostolic succession?
How on Earth did you do that?
I'm going to guess you did it by slander, propaganda and ignorance. The three virtues of Protestantism.

**********

Who was it said the other day that the CC respected all faiths? Was that you?

But slander, propaganda and ignorance...???

Shame...

KayMarie
preston

Waverly, OH

#412432 Dec 30, 2012
concerned parishoner wrote:
<quoted text>why in the WORLD must you continue to use Bible verses that dont have anything to do with the conversation?
Clay is NOT your brother.(literal) if Spiritual, then prove it.
I would think after over 60 years(so you say), that maybe, just maybe you might have learned something about it{Bible}.
you are probably the most frustrating person that I have ever seen, you are supposed to be a minister, yet your knowledge of what the Bible actually says and means is nil,void, and Raca.
I would love to come on line and see you post a Bible verse that is appropriate to the discussion at hand.
Jesus was speaking literal which is why I said that Clay is not his earthly brother(literal) so this verse is moot, and any minister should know that. look at the part of this verse, WE DONT HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE SANHEDRIN(COUNCIL).

{and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council:}
preston

Waverly, OH

#412433 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
Clay:
Wait second...are you saying you have shown the CC is not the true Church through Apostolic succession?
How on Earth did you do that?
I'm going to guess you did it by slander, propaganda and ignorance. The three virtues of Protestantism.
**********
Who was it said the other day that the CC respected all faiths? Was that you?
But slander, propaganda and ignorance...???
Shame...
KayMarie
WHY DONT YOU TWO STOP THIS FOOLISHNESS? IF YOU WANT TO POST, THEN GET YOUR OWN NICK.

and grow up!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412434 Dec 30, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus was speaking literal which is why I said that Clay is not his earthly brother(literal) so this verse is moot, and any minister should know that. look at the part of this verse, WE DONT HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE SANHEDRIN(COUNCIL).
{and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council:}
If you are so smart... suppose you take the Bible and either refute the claim of the Roman Catholics dynasty in Rome...Or prove that it is Biblical ...

You chimed in out debate so suppode you give the answer either for or against the dynasty.
preston

Waverly, OH

#412435 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are so smart... suppose you take the Bible and either refute the claim of the Roman Catholics dynasty in Rome...Or prove that it is Biblical ...
You chimed in out debate so suppode you give the answer either for or against the dynasty.
any FOOL can post Bible verses.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412436 Dec 30, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>any FOOL can post Bible verses.
~~~
SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER EITHER..RIGHT?
IF YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG WHY DON'T YOU MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS.
preston

Waverly, OH

#412437 Dec 30, 2012
GIF, for over four years you have been an embarressment to Christianity with your ignorance of what the Bible teaches, and because of that, the catholics on here have nothing but contempt for every person on here, who does try and reason with them about our differences in theology.

if you did attend a Bible college, you should ask for your money back, they taught you NOTHING.

if all you did was clean the blackboards and the seats, then we understand why you are ignorant of the Word.

you wouldnt be capable of a better understanding than what you now possess
preston

Waverly, OH

#412438 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER EITHER..RIGHT?
IF YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG WHY DON'T YOU MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS.
no one has to prove you wrong, your ignorance does that for you.

and since this is a privately owned business open to the public.

I can answer any post that I wish to reply to. and it is possible that your cyber bullying is the reason why you have been kicked off of this forum twice(acording to u)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412439 Dec 30, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>no one has to prove you wrong, your ignorance does that for you.
and since this is a privately owned business open to the public.
I can answer any post that I wish to reply to. and it is possible that your cyber bullying is the reason why you have been kicked off of this forum twice(acording to u)
~~~
WHY CANT YOU JUST STAY ON THE SUBJECT AT HAND..
EVIDENTLY THE SUBJECT IS BEYOND YOUR EXPERTISE.
preston

Waverly, OH

#412440 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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WHY CANT YOU JUST STAY ON THE SUBJECT AT HAND..
EVIDENTLY THE SUBJECT IS BEYOND YOUR EXPERTISE.
ask your wife, she just posted a couple of days ago about HOW SMART THAT SHE SAW THAT I WAS.LOL

and when I use a Bible verse, it is appropriate, not like what you have done for over 4 years.

again, when jesus said those words, they were literal, and no one has the Authority to change them to suit his purpose, like you try constantly

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412441 Dec 30, 2012
who="preston" WHY DONT YOU TWO STOP THIS FOOLISHNESS? IF YOU WANT TO POST, THEN GET YOUR OWN NICK.
and grow up!
**********

:):)

KM
preston

Waverly, OH

#412442 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="preston" WHY DONT YOU TWO STOP THIS FOOLISHNESS? IF YOU WANT TO POST, THEN GET YOUR OWN NICK.
and grow up!
**********
:):)
KM
well? why dont you?

when your husband says something and he is rebuked for it, then he leaves and you come on.

it only takes a couple of minutes for a person to get their own account.

so why dont you two grow up? just because you both have entered into your second childhood is no excuse.
Evan Politico

Hicksville, NY

#412443 Dec 30, 2012
Pope B enjoys the casional young alter boy Yo!
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#412444 Dec 30, 2012
Scripture shows that Peter’s authority was shared by the other apostles (Ephesians 2:19-20), and the “loosing and binding” authority attributed to him was likewise shared by the local churches, not just their church leaders (see Matthew 18:15-19; 1 Corinthians 5:1-13; 2 Corinthians 13:10; Titus 2:15; 3:10-11).
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#412445 Dec 30, 2012
Nowhere does Scripture state that, in order to keep the church from error, the authority of the apostles was passed on to those they ordained (the idea behind apostolic succession). Apostolic succession is “read into” those verses that the Roman Catholic Church uses to support this doctrine (2 Timothy 2:2; 4:2-5; Titus 1:5; 2:1; 2:15; 1 Timothy 5:19-22). Paul does NOT call on believers in various churches to receive Titus, Timothy, and other church leaders based on their authority as bishops or their having apostolic authority, but rather based upon their being fellow laborers with him (1 Corinthians 16:10; 16:16; 2 Corinthians 8:23).

What Scripture DOES teach is that false teachings would arise even from among church leaders, and that Christians were to compare the teachings of these later church leaders with Scripture, which alone is infallible (Matthew 5:18; Psalm 19:7-8; 119:160; Proverbs 30:5; John 17:17; 2 Peter 1:19-21). The Bible does not teach that the apostles were infallible, apart from what was written by them and incorporated into Scripture. Paul, in talking to the church leaders in the large city of Ephesus, makes note of coming false teachers. To fight against their error does NOT commend them to “the apostles and those who would carry on their authority”; rather, Paul commends them to “God and to the word of His grace”(Acts 20:28-32). It is Scripture that was to be the infallible measuring stick for teaching and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17), not apostolic successors. It is by examining the Scriptures that teachings are shown to be true or false (Acts 17:10-12).
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#412446 Dec 30, 2012
Was Peter the first pope? The answer, according to Scripture, is a clear and emphatic “no.” Peter nowhere claims supremacy over the other apostles. Nowhere in his writings (1 and 2 Peter) did the Apostle Peter claim any special role, authority, or power over the church. Nowhere in Scripture does Peter, or any other apostle, state that their apostolic authority would be passed on to successors. Yes, the Apostle Peter had a leadership role among the disciples. Yes, Peter played a crucial role in the early spread of the gospel (Acts chapters 1-10). Yes, Peter was the “rock” that Christ predicted he would be (Matthew 16:18). However, these truths about Peter in no way give support to the concept that Peter was the first pope, or that he was the “supreme leader” over the apostles, or that his authority would be passed on to the bishops of Rome. Peter himself points us all to the true Shepherd and Overseer of the church, the Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 2:25).
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#412447 Dec 30, 2012
the New Testament makes it abundantly clear that Christ is both the foundation (Acts 4:11, 12; 1 Corinthians 3:11) and the head (Ephesians 5:23) of the church. It is a mistake to think that here He is giving either of those roles to Peter. There is a sense in which the apostles played a foundational role in the building of the church (Ephesians 2:20), but the role of primacy is reserved for Christ alone, not assigned to Peter. So, Jesus’ words here are best interpreted as a simple play on words in that a boulder-like truth came from the mouth of one who was called a small stone. And Christ Himself is called the “chief cornerstone”(1 Peter 2:6, 7). The chief cornerstone of any building was that upon which the building was anchored. If Christ declared Himself to be the cornerstone, how could Peter be the rock upon which the church was built? It is more likely that the believers, of which Peter is one, are the stones which make up the church, anchored upon the Cornerstone,“and he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame”(1 Peter 2:6).

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