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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603333 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

United States

#412392 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Please give Chapter and Verse for THE alleged APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION..
I'll tell you what. You give me chapter and verse that says the books of the New Testament are all that's revealed about Jesus and His teaching.
fool.
Clay

United States

#412393 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Please give Chapter and Verse for THE alleged APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION..
From what I understand ...It was supposed to have started with the
Apostle Peter..
Since Peter was not of the tribe of Levi and apparently not of the
tribe of Judah ( a descendent of David)... JUST WHERE WOULD HE FIT IN
THE USURPATION OF THE DYNASTY OF David...BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
PETER BEING A JEW AND THE REST OF THE POPES GENTILES...?
IT JUST DOES NOT WASH...
JAMES THE BROTHER OF JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN NEXT IN LINE TO THE THRONE OF DAVID.....since he was King Davids descendent...
( JESUS WAS CALLED THE SON OF DAVID)
THE PAPAL SUCCESSORS THEN...WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN JEWS...
AND DESCENDENTS OF DAVID...TO ESTABLISH THE PHYSICAL DYNASTY IN Jerusalem...NOT ROME ITALY.
THE SPIRITUAL THRONE OF DAVID THROUGH JESUS CHRIST IS NOT AN EARTHLY DYNASTY..
IT IS A SPIRITUAL KINGDOM ESTABLISHED IN THE HEARTS OF ALL BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST ..THAT HE IS THE SON OF GOD .
JESUS OWN WORDS WERE...
Joh_18:36 Jesus answered,
==> My kingdom is not of this world: <==
if my kingdom were of this world,
then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
WHY DO YOU AND THE REST OF THE ROMAN CATHOLICS WORK SO
FEVERISHLY TO MAKE JESUS OUT TO BE A LIAR??
ACCORDING TO JESUS ...HERE.. ANY PHYSICAL KINGDOM ESTABLISHED UPON THE EARTH...IS BOGUS..
If you are the servants of JESUS CHRIST..why do you fight for Rome
(that ultimately crucified Him)
instead fighting the good fight of faith, for the SPIRITUAL KINGDOM OF GOD.
I always wondered about your theory on the compilation of the Bible. How did it come to be?
When was it declared the only source of info on Christianity?
Exactly. Run away you coward. You have no answer. You probably ban computers from your compound so your congregation can't look up the truth either.
marge

Ames, IA

#412394 Dec 30, 2012
Clay wrote:
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I'll tell you what. You give me chapter and verse that says the books of the New Testament are all that's revealed about Jesus and His teaching.
fool.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Its all one needs to be perfect, Clay, of course one needs to be reborn from above then we can follow the Word.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#412395 Dec 30, 2012
YAWN !!!!!
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#412396 Dec 30, 2012
Clay wrote:
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I've seen people take the time and explain the Churchs position to you, over and over and over.
A Catholic Priest took the time to answer your embarrassingly stupid questions. Every Catholic on here sets you straight everyday.
For what? It does no good. You know what our answer will be. You know by now what the Church ACTUALLY believes and teaches. You only exist on here because you practice slander and preach propaganda.
Your mind is free alright...free of important brain matter.
So tell us exactly which of my points are not correct? Ummm?

Be specific. Are you saying Jesus has no role in the election of His earthly vicar?

Obviously, you cannot refute a single fact I present, so you call names and claim I "don't understand," blah, blah.

It's simple. I say Jesus has standards. You say Jesus has none.

You say Jesus would have allowed a child-abuser to remain as an Apostle. I say that's absurd.

What is there to understand, besides your whining and denial?
Star

Whittier, CA

#412397 Dec 30, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Please give Chapter and Verse for THE alleged APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION..
From what I understand ...It was supposed to have started with the
Apostle Peter..
Apostolic succession

Acts 1: 20-26 Matthias chosen to Replace Judas” This is Apostolic succession.

20 “For,” said Peter,“it is written in the Book of Psalms:

“‘May his place be deserted;
let there be no one to dwell in it,’[c]

and,

“‘May another take his place of leadership.’[d]

21 Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole

time the Lord Jesus was living among us, 22 beginning from John’s baptism to the time

when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his

resurrection.”

23 So they nominated two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. 24 Then they prayed,

“Lord, you know everyone’s heart. Show us which of these two you

have chosen 25 to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas

left to go where he belongs.” 26 Then they cast lots, and the lot

fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.
Clay

United States

#412398 Dec 30, 2012
marge wrote:
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All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Its all one needs to be perfect, Clay, of course one needs to be reborn from above then we can follow the Word.
yes... But where does it say its the only thing?

What was Paul saying when he said,'Hold steadfast to your teachings, WHETHER BY WORD OF MOUTH OR LETTER?
why did Jesus wait 1500 yrs to reveal sola scripture to us?
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#412399 Dec 30, 2012
All evidence from the Bible says....

... Jesus would NOT ALLOW an Apostle to remain in the fold, if that Apostle had raped a child who had come to hear Jesus.

Catholics say Jesus would be far more tolerant of child rapists.

Baloney!!!

“Sept.WeWelcomThe Pope”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#412400 Dec 30, 2012
Clay wrote:
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I always wondered about your theory on the compilation of the Bible. How did it come to be?
When was it declared the only source of info on Christianity?
Exactly. Run away you coward. You have no answer. You probably ban computers from your compound so your congregation can't look up the truth either.
So called confrint... does not know his Bible.

This is the only way he can keep his followers. By spreading lies.

Sad.

Happy 6th day of Christmas!!

“Sept.WeWelcomThe Pope”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#412401 Dec 30, 2012
LTM wrote:
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The Holy Scriptures belong to God. The Bible is for all people to all people from God .It is neither catholic or protestant.
I agree!
I'm just saying, if it were not for the first Christians called Catholics you would not have a bible. Be thankful that the Catholic kept the WORD alive for all those years before bibles were in circulation.

“Sept.WeWelcomThe Pope”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#412402 Dec 30, 2012
LTM wrote:
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Doesn't that make you feel ashamed Regina, that Jethro knows the Holy Scripture and interprets it better then you and the other catholic's on here. You lay claim to the Bible being a catholic book yet are so illitate of the teachings of Jesus. Regina you are being taught by people who don't know either, or if they do they are hiding it from you.
To get a full understanding of who Jesus was and is you must read the Bible in full, cover to cover, and more then once.
Not directed at me, but just my 2 cents.

"There are some things in them (Epistles of St. Paul) hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other
Scriptures.
2 Peter 3:16'

The Church that Jesus started, is in a three year cycle of Scripture reading... This is why we know the Bible, every bit of it.
I have noticed that some protestant, have never heard of 'certain' verses that are in Scripture.
[like confrint, never heard the vers on Apostolic succession]

So no LTM the Church does not hide Scripture from us.
Early Christian heard the WORD at mass and we still do today.

A verse some have not seen in Scripture…..
regarding self interpretation.
2 Peter 1:20-21

“Sept.WeWelcomThe Pope”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#412403 Dec 30, 2012
Must run...getting ready for evening mass.

Happy New Year!!!
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#412404 Dec 30, 2012
Sherlayne wrote:
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Regina, even though we believe differently, I admire your faithful devotion to your church. I think you're a very good person. Happy holidays!
Why, thank you, Sheryl. A Blessed Christmas and Happy, Healthy New Year to you, too!
Clay

United States

#412405 Dec 30, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
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So tell us exactly which of my points are not correct? Ummm?
Be specific. Are you saying Jesus has no role in the election of His earthly vicar?
Obviously, you cannot refute a single fact I present, so you call names and claim I "don't understand," blah, blah.
It's simple. I say Jesus has standards. You say Jesus has none.
You say Jesus would have allowed a child-abuser to remain as an Apostle. I say that's absurd.
What is there to understand, besides your whining and denial?
you said, "so tell us exactly which of my points are not correct...be specific"

Then, 5 lines later you said "you say Jesus would have allowed a child abuser to remain an Apostle"

Um Free, now do you finally see why you're an idiot?
I respond to you to much as it is. And I'm sure other Catholics are annoyed that I feed the ideological troll.
So ...I'll leave on that note. Mercy Christmas. Happy New Year. and go Vikings.
marge

Ames, IA

#412406 Dec 30, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
yes... But where does it say its the only thing?
What was Paul saying when he said,'Hold steadfast to your teachings, WHETHER BY WORD OF MOUTH OR LETTER?
why did Jesus wait 1500 yrs to reveal sola scripture to us?
It says 'thoroughly furnished'.

what does thoroughly furnished mean to you?
marge

Ames, IA

#412407 Dec 30, 2012
StarC wrote:
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I agree!
I'm just saying, if it were not for the first Christians called Catholics you would not have a bible. Be thankful that the Catholic kept the WORD alive for all those years before bibles were in circulation.
It says the first followers of the Way(Jesus) were first called Christians at Antioch.

Nothing about 'catholics', and so sad you take credit for the Bible which you don't follow.
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#412408 Dec 30, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
you said, "so tell us exactly which of my points are not correct...be specific"
Then, 5 lines later you said "you say Jesus would have allowed a child abuser to remain an Apostle"
Um Free, now do you finally see why you're an idiot?
I respond to you to much as it is. And I'm sure other Catholics are annoyed that I feed the ideological troll.
So ...I'll leave on that note. Mercy Christmas. Happy New Year. and go Vikings.


Thank you for being specific.

Your church claims -- through its actions -- that Jesus had no problem with so many Apostolic Successors looking the other way as Priests in their diocese were accused of child sex abuse.

If this was guided by Jesus, then obviously -- you say Jesus would have allowed a child abuser to remain an Apostle.

You cannot claim to be Jesus' "one true and only guided church," yet not act the role.

If your church is guided by Jesus, then it does Jesus' Will.

Yes or no?
ReginaM

Jackson, NJ

#412409 Dec 30, 2012
LTM wrote:
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Doesn't that make you feel ashamed Regina, that Jethro knows the Holy Scripture and interprets it better then you and the other catholic's on here. You lay claim to the Bible being a catholic book yet are so illitate of the teachings of Jesus. Regina you are being taught by people who don't know either, or if they do they are hiding it from you.
To get a full understanding of who Jesus was and is you must read the Bible in full, cover to cover, and more then once.
Alternate readings for today, The Feast of the Holy Family:

1Sm 1:20-22, 24-28
In those days Hannah conceived, and at the end of her term bore a son
whom she called Samuel, since she had asked the LORD for him.
The next time her husband Elkanah was going up
with the rest of his household
to offer the customary sacrifice to the LORD and to fulfill his vows,
Hannah did not go, explaining to her husband,
"Once the child is weaned,
I will take him to appear before the LORD
and to remain there forever;
I will offer him as a perpetual nazirite."

Once Samuel was weaned, Hannah brought him up with her,
along with a three-year-old bull,
an ephah of flour, and a skin of wine,
and presented him at the temple of the LORD in Shiloh.
After the boy's father had sacrificed the young bull,
Hannah, his mother, approached Eli and said:
"Pardon, my lord!
As you live, my lord,
I am the woman who stood near you here, praying to the LORD.
I prayed for this child, and the LORD granted my request.
Now I, in turn, give him to the LORD;
as long as he lives, he shall be dedicated to the LORD."
Hannah left Samuel there.

Ps 84:2-3, 5-6, 9-10.
R.(cf. 5a) Blessed are they who dwell in your house, O Lord.
How lovely is your dwelling place, O LORD of hosts!
My soul yearns and pines for the courts of the LORD.
My heart and my flesh cry out for the living God.
R. Blessed are they who dwell in your house, O Lord.
Happy they who dwell in your house!
Continually they praise you.
Happy the men whose strength you are!
Their hearts are set upon the pilgrimage.
R. Blessed are they who dwell in your house, O Lord.
O LORD of hosts, hear our prayer;
hearken, O God of Jacob!
O God, behold our shield,
and look upon the face of your anointed.
R. Blessed are they who dwell in your house, O Lord.

1 Jn 3:1-2, 21-24
Beloved:
See what love the Father has bestowed on us
that we may be called the children of God.
And so we are.
THE REASON THE WORLD DOES NOT KNOW US
IS THAT IT DID NOT KNOW HIM.
Beloved, we are God's children now;
what we shall be has not yet been revealed.
We do know that when it is revealed we shall be like him,
for we shall see him as he is.

Beloved, if our hearts do not condemn us,
we have confidence in God and receive from him whatever we ask,
because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him.
And his commandment is this:
we should believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ,
and love one another just as he commanded us.
Those who keep his commandments remain in him, and he in them,
and the way we know that he remains in us
is from the Spirit he gave us.

The Gospel reading from Luke 2:41-52 remains the same.

I'd suggest you read and meditate upon them if someone can lend you a bible. 1 John 3:1 is particularly relevant to Catholics as we've always been reviled by the world.

And don't forget, Christmas does not end until after vespers on January 13! We'll be making King Cakes in honor of the visit of the Magi to the Baby Jesus on January 6!
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#412410 Dec 30, 2012
If as church claims to be guided by Jesus....

... then we can assume that that church's actions are the Will of Jesus.

If not, then the church's claim of guidance by Jesus is absurd.

Question: Why do Catholics whine and complain that this assumption is wrong?

Please explain why Jesus would guide His supposed church in a manner contrary to His own Will?
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#412411 Dec 30, 2012
1... FACT: Jesus did not guide any church into a decades-long cover-up of child sex-abuse.

2... Proof: Jesus does not guide the RCC.

3... To claim that Jesus guides the RCC is an attack on the character and morality of Jesus.

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