Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[Live Action]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>there was a king in the OT who turned not to God, relied on physicans only, and died at the age of 46.he was a heathen,Definition: not believing in God.
Now PAD, there is no way that you can convince me that God is going to Heal a person that doesnt even believe in Him. but you are welcome to try. GO 4 IT!!
Romans 1:16 tells us, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to {every one that believeth}; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek."
now here is what some writer is saying and it is completely FALSE.
Remember that the same principles work for forgiveness of sin as for healing miracles. The Greek word (sozo) to "save" is the same as "to heal." http://www.godspeak.org/hs_lessons/hs14_week4...
that word {sozo}means to save only but these charlatans that want to preach on divine healings will do and say anything to get a dime.see #2.1.
now in the instance of the woman with the issue of Blood, that word is also used and she was healed, however she was {Saved }from death.as I do believe, she would have died if He had not been there
But Jesus, having turned and seen her, said, Daughter, be of good comfort; your faith has healed you. And the woman was healed{sozo}
from that hour.but she was not a heathen. she had more faith than many of us do today.
http://www.logosapostolic.org/greek_word_stud...

what a joke not believing in a man made god makes you a heathen.I think you ear ticklers are the heathens.And the only one doing miracles and healings are satan and evil spirits and demons .Yahweh does not take part in this world.Remember he left us here to destroy our self's with sin.and what a great job you are doing.

[preston]

FLEECING THE SHEEP

The charismatic movement claims to have the Holy Spirit in a special way, however, some seem to be lacking in all discernment that the Holy Spirit would give. There are several books exposing the big name Charismatic ministers. One is written by an ex-charismatic Assembly of God minister. He shows a picture in his book of an Assembly of God flier promoting the "Testimony of J. Edgar Hoover."

Yes, the Assembly of God promoted the, "testimony" of J. Edgar Hoover, while he was known to be a power hungry individual who practiced homosexuality. It was this type of hype that caused this minister to grow disillusioned with the charismatic movement's so called spirituality. Recently, the spiritual discernment of Billy Graham and many other big time ministries was exposed when these big Christian ministries were conned out of $550 million dollars. Billy Graham introduced John G. Bennett to thousands of people at a recent Billy Graham Crusade in Philadelphia in 1992. John Bennett gave his testimony at the crusade. Because Billy Graham, John Templeton, and Laurance Rockefeller were apparently supportive of John G. Bennett, big time Christian ministries "trusted" him. John told many of the big Christian ministries that if they gave him millions of dollars, for every million he received he would give them two million back. Many of the big Christian ministries gave Bennett money--in fact he collected $550 million (which he ran off with) from ministries such as Pat Robertson's, Bill Bright's, Chuck Colson's, Luis Palau's, Westminster Theological Seminary, Wheaton College, the Salvation Army and many others. The reader may have heard of this New Era Foundation scam. That's what it was

[Hermeneutics Smutics]

SEPTU QUOTES SUPPORTED BY DEAD SEA SCROLLS
Appendix:

Dead Sea Scrolls-Septuagint Alignments Against the Masoretic Text

Notes on
The Septuagint
©2000 by R. Grant Jones

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[Hermeneutics Smutics]

ReginaM wrote:

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Cute couple....but Seraphima could use a sandwich.

LOL
Her upper lip blocks the food

[Michael]

Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:

<quoted text>My father is Orthodox. My Mom was Methodist. My grandma was Baptist.I did not return to Orthodoxy until I had explored just about everything. I know I am not typical.I agree when you say so many just march with the family's footsteps.You can tell the difference between them and the free mature choice Christians.

Herme says...

....You can tell the difference between them and the free mature choice Christians.

Michael says....ABSOLUTELY!

I believe all or most of the former catholics on this forum were indoctrinated from birth.

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

Free Mind wrote:

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Satan does NOT control those with whom he agrees.
But Satan surely controls those with whom he does not agree.
Thus --- when it comes to judging good and evil, he is the center of his Universe -- not God.

"Christians" don't see it this way, they think you and I are "satans". So you can see, they are delusional to some extent.

Are they honest enough to admit that they are wrong and totally off-base? Only if they truly are honest - in which we haven't seen this to be the case yet.

Happy Holidays FM!

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

confrinting with the word wrote:

Faith is what 'joins us to God spiritually'...we are healed via this joining.
I'm not teaching any thing else.
KayMarie

You shouldn't teach anything at all.

[Michael]

A beautiful historic church on its last breath.

http://www.philly.com/philly/home/20121214_Ch...

I can't understand that dioceses around america don't help each other out in times of need. Every diocese seems to be an entity of its own.

195 roman catholic dioceses in america, the vatican with BILLIONS in investments, and no help coming from any of them that could have help preserve this historic building.

Shame on the powers to be.

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>So, there you have it. The world's most famous evangelist teaches that no one needs Jesus to be saved and enter the Kingdom of Heaven. They're already members of the Body of Christ whether they know it or not! All they have to do is believe in a God--like one of the three million Hindu gods; or perhaps the man-god whom many Buddhists worship, the Dalai Lama; or the Moslem's Allah; or perhaps the Cosmic God of the evolutionists; or the witches' horned god, Pan; or perhaps all that people must do is believe in the New Age deity--themselves--as God!

Or an individual can do the research on all of these and realize that the similarities of each religion is so "on the mark" that your last "example" is probably the truth - we are all become gods when we die.

Isn't it fun to speculate on the things we don't know?

[confrinting with the word]

who="Live Action"what a joke not believing in a man made god makes you a heathen.I think you ear ticklers are the heathens.And the only one doing miracles and healings are satan and evil spirits and demons .Yahweh does not take part in this world.Remember he left us here to destroy our self's with sin.and what a great job you are doing.

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You are making the joke. Man-made gods are Totem poles carved from a tree, or Buddha furnaces, or even your automobile.

And where do satan and evil spirits and demons come from? Why acknowledge them but deny GOD?

No, He didn't leave us here to destroy ourselves. He gave us a wonderful, beautiful earth, and family to enjoy. If you mess yours up, it is your fault.

KayMarie

[Michael]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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So-called "Christians" can't get past the fear that has been instilled by other men.

Its engrained into them from childbirth. I was indoctrinated into catholicism. My parents spoke the same way, that if you weren't a christian you were not worthy of anything and it you were a protestant you were way down the line of righteousness below catholicism.

...Not one word ever spoken by God from christianity, or the gods from any previous beliefs. Its always men, creating stories, using the same METHOD OF OPERATION PROCEDURES to instill guilt if they question, which by itself instills FEAR.

.......If the catholic church changes policies on some issue, at the very same time so do the followers.

They are not kidding when followers are referred to as sheep.

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

Michael wrote:

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Its engrained into them from childbirth. I was indoctrinated into catholicism. My parents spoke the same way, that if you weren't a christian you were not worthy of anything and it you were a protestant you were way down the line of righteousness below catholicism.
...Not one word ever spoken by God from christianity, or the gods from any previous beliefs. Its always men, creating stories, using the same METHOD OF OPERATION PROCEDURES to instill guilt if they question, which by itself instills FEAR.
.......If the catholic church changes policies on some issue, at the very same time so do the followers.
They are not kidding when followers are referred to as sheep.

:o)

"Mary had a little lamb...."

[Michael]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Good works, like feeding the hungry and clothing the naked IS our response to His grace, but one may choose to not respond.

Anthony says....
Good works, like feeding the hungry and clothing the naked IS our response to His grace.

Michael says......That is exactly! what the 47,000 nuns in america are doing, in the gutters feeding the hungry and clothing the naked, but your church ANTHONY wants the nuns to spend their time talking down homosexuality and birth control instead.

Didn't you learn that Jesus accepted everyone, and his priorities were the poor and helpless?

I support the nuns!......as so many are doing today including the 1,000 (and growing) Roman catholic priests in america who belong to the AUSCP.

Its not about the church. Its about whats RIGHT!!!!

[Chuck]

Michael wrote:

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Its engrained into them from childbirth. I was indoctrinated into catholicism. My parents spoke the same way, that if you weren't a christian you were not worthy of anything and it you were a protestant you were way down the line of righteousness below catholicism.

I too was raised in the catholic church. Never ever heard such a thing. You think maybe you are all just nutjobs?....just a thought

[Hermeneutics Smutics]

Michael wrote:

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Herme says...
....You can tell the difference between them and the free mature choice Christians.
Michael says....ABSOLUTELY!
I believe all or most of the former catholics on this forum were indoctrinated from birth.

No Habla Ingles

[Michael]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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:o)
"Mary had a little lamb...."

NASL says.......Mary had a little lamb

Michael says.........and according to christians she had a little Jesus too.

No wonder there are farm animals displayed around the nativity scene. Thats the connection!

[Michael]

Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:

<quoted text>No Habla Ingles

Right!

[Hermeneutics Smutics]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>YOUR NEXT TO THE LAST SENTANCE AGREES WITH WHAT THE AUTHOR OF THAT SCENARIO ALSO SAID.
want you to know that.
And grahams interview with larry king, he says that God loves satan, do you beleive that?
KING: Does God love him?
GRAHAM: Does God what?
KING: Satan. Does he love Satan?
GRAHAM: Well, he created him as Lucifer. In the 22nd of Ezekiel, it tells us about it, and he must love him, but the end of Satan is hell. Hell was created for the devil and his angels, or his demons, not for men.
KING: How about abortion?
GRAHAM: Same thing.
KING: Against it totally?
GRAHAM: Yes. But I'm not getting involved in it.
KING: So you believe it's the taking of a life?
GRAHAM: Yes, I do.
KING: But to protect the life of a mother you would permit it, right? I think you said that.
GRAHAM: Oh, yes.
KING: Yeah.
GRAHAM: Of course.

Gdday Chum. I believe that Graham's comments about God loving Satan is what happens when we start analyzing isues of the spiritua dimenson that we know nothing about.How would we know if God loves or does not love Satan.We think our limited human minds can grasp a spiritual world whos principles, nature, and laws far surpass ou comprehension. A better aswer would have been "I do not know but I know God loves us".We do this again and again because we
proudly have confidence in our intelect.Lets stick to the basics and leave such lofty questions to God.

[Hermeneutics Smutics]

Michael wrote:

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Anthony says....
Good works, like feeding the hungry and clothing the naked IS our response to His grace.
Michael says......That is exactly! what the 47,000 nuns in america are doing, in the gutters feeding the hungry and clothing the naked, but your church ANTHONY wants the nuns to spend their time talking down homosexuality and birth control instead.
Didn't you learn that Jesus accepted everyone, and his priorities were the poor and helpless?
I support the nuns!......as so many are doing today including the 1,000 (and growing) Roman catholic priests in america who belong to the AUSCP.
Its not about the church. Its about whats RIGHT!!!!

All your postings have sparked my curiosity about the nuns. I am going to go undercover as a nun into their world.Perhaps I may write a book about it "Nun Like Me"

[Michael]

Christians are taught that God has a divine plan. God knows the minute everything will be born the minute they will die, every tree that grows and withers and every sunny and rainy day.

...Many years ago God decided to create a plan for everything. He checked his plan over, said it was a good plan, and put his plan it into operation.

..Christians came along and decided that they wanted more. If they pray to God for something it will be granted, but doing so is trying to change Gods divine plan.

...What is the point in having a divine plan if every clown coming along can pray wanting to change his plan!

People pray for everything. Pray for a sunny day on their wedding, farmers just 1 mile down the road are praying for rain. Two opposing football teams praying before the game telling God we want to win! What is God to do? BILLIONS and BILLIONS of prayers beamed to God everyday wanting him to change his divine plan. If you have cancer, people pray wanting God to change the course of the cancer. If cancer was part of Gods plan why can any scmuck coming along pray to change his plan?

...Most people pray to God on Sunday, his day off. That is not very nice.

I never pray, and if there is a God he is giving me the thumbs up for not trying to screw up his divine plan by praying for something I want.