Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

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#409482 Dec 14, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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Pad good friend
I know what you mean, but I think we must expand our definition of being a Christian into more metaphysical surroundings....
More or less, people of faith are going to be those promised to Abraham in Gen12:1-3(...in you all families of the earth shall be blessed.). And these go to Abraham's bosom, and are continuing to do so to this day.
So we must be more inclusive as to who is saved by God....Now those that hear the message, and ignore, or reject it is one thing. But for instance, if a Christian sees in another, poor in spirit, yet being pitiful, hurt, but living by faith, and being charitable with the things he owns, is that not the Image of God?
Before we think badly of some preacher, such as Billy Graham because of his beliefs, and experience, we need much introspection as to how much we are a service to the Kingdom of God.
Christianity is not some group in this world....There are plenty of those to go around, be they individuals, clans, tribes, nations, religions, empires, kingdoms. So Christiantiy needn't and doesn't act like other groups of people. It does not need anything but God, and His Grace. And for those persecuted for the sake of the Kingdom of God, we pray for, and share in their sufferings. It is not other religions that persecute, rather it is the world, and those of the world.
I think faith is inclusive, and not exclusive....For Christians must be known by their love, and not their abilities, and accomplishments in this world.
Robert, darlin'- I hope your holidays are happy, peaceful and safe.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#409483 Dec 14, 2012
who="Michael"
Believing there is an invisible man somewhere?? up in the clouds above, all day long looking down smiling at his creation, needs a lot more than religion (lol)
An invisible man creates 10 rules that you must follow. If you don't follow even one of these rules and say you are sorry, the the inivisble man after you die will send your soul to a fire pit of heat and flames, torture, more heat, pain and suffering..........but this invisible man loves you!
UNBELIEVABLE!

**********

There IS a God that you cannot see, because our vision cannot manage it.
Your physical eyes can only see about 3 % of the available light.

What is so bad about creating people who are capable of living/doing good, then judging them by whether they can/will do what they are designated to do. If they are wicked (I don't mean accidentally run a traffic light), what would be wrong about keeping them out of heaven.
He has given US the choice. I can't think of one more wicked that the one who would reject that choice. Do you want to spend eternity with Hitler...and a few others I could mention? I don't.

KayMarie

Since: Dec 06

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#409484 Dec 14, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>God loves all that He created,remember,"He created .........and saw that it was good." He created Lucifer,the Top Angel of praise and worship,Lucifer's body was like instruments. Lucifer made the choice to rebel,and in doing so he committed the greatest sin against his Creator,the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.There is no salvation for Satan and his fallen angels(demons).So Graham is not wrong for saying what he did to Larry King.Besides are we to read into the emotions of God anyway? He creates,but He also allows destruction to come to what He created.
Pad good friend

Yes. I agree with you and B.G. here, that God made everything good. Even Lucifer was brilliant, and can appear as such today. What we may surmise though is that God created angels to have free-will as well humanity. It is just that they are in the eternal realm, yet they may influence the world, and may by God's Will, He permits them to interact with humanity.

Since: Dec 06

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#409485 Dec 14, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Terrible about that Sandy Hook School in Connecticut.18 children and 8 adults were shot.26 dead.
Elementary School,what a horrible time we are living in. It seems that everyday in the news there is serial killing.Nothing less than demon possession.Tired of the mental case,poor childhood plea,but these kinds of individuals plot and scheme,calculate.
Thank you for the blessing.Have to run!
Pad good friend

I am sorry to hear there was another tragedy....I will pray for them....Be safe. God's blessings on you.

Since: Dec 06

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#409486 Dec 14, 2012
Sherlayne wrote:
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Robert, darlin'- I hope your holidays are happy, peaceful and safe.
Sherlayne good friend

And to you as well....
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#409487 Dec 14, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Pad good friend
I know what you mean, but I think we must expand our definition of being a Christian into more metaphysical surroundings....
More or less, people of faith are going to be those promised to Abraham in Gen12:1-3(...in you all families of the earth shall be blessed.). And these go to Abraham's bosom, and are continuing to do so to this day.
So we must be more inclusive as to who is saved by God....Now those that hear the message, and ignore, or reject it is one thing. But for instance, if a Christian sees in another, poor in spirit, yet being pitiful, hurt, but living by faith, and being charitable with the things he owns, is that not the Image of God?
Before we think badly of some preacher, such as Billy Graham because of his beliefs, and experience, we need much introspection as to how much we are a service to the Kingdom of God.
Christianity is not some group in this world....There are plenty of those to go around, be they individuals, clans, tribes, nations, religions, empires, kingdoms. So Christiantiy needn't and doesn't act like other groups of people. It does not need anything but God, and His Grace. And for those persecuted for the sake of the Kingdom of God, we pray for, and share in their sufferings. It is not other religions that persecute, rather it is the world, and those of the world.
I think faith is inclusive, and not exclusive....For Christians must be known by their love, and not their abilities, and accomplishments in this world.
If you truly believe we must be more inclusive as to who is saved by God, then why be Catholic?

The RCC even today has a very narrow view.

http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/Is%2...

Speaking of non-Catholics -- "to obtain salvation under those conditions is very difficult."

In other words, the RCC now graciously admits that a Protestant might go to Heaven, because in the end, it's all up to God -- but the RCC today says it is very difficult.

Wow, that's enlightened. 500 years ago, it was impossible.

Get real -- like the Highest Power in the Universe really cares into which religion you were indoctrinated?

Despite all the double-speak, that's still the fundamental RCC position.

Since: Dec 11

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#409488 Dec 14, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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Herme good friend
I have read "The Ladder". It was during my more mystical walk with God. It is great practical and reference material....I should get my copy out again...,Thanks for reminding me.
I am so impressed that you read The Ladder.Most have never heard of it. I do believe we are kindred spirts

Since: Dec 11

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#409489 Dec 14, 2012
Truth wrote:
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Please pray for my family members...as they are not far from the shooting....
I called my sister-in-law and she is at my nephew's school trying to get him out as they are on lock down....
I would really appreciate everyone's prayers...
Sorry your family has to go through this ordeal. They will have my and Seraphima's prayers.

Since: Dec 11

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#409490 Dec 14, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
==>The greatest pain that Jesus bore was when,...
Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and
==>the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. <==
Actors can attempt to portray the beatings, and most all the other sufferings that Jesus went through...
But there is no person existing (or ever will exist) that can portray,
what JESUS SUFFERED,.......
when God laid upon Him the iniquity of all man kind
from Adam to the Last soul that will be Born Again upon the earth
BEFORE GOD SHUTS THE DOOR ETERNALLY.
I never thought of it that way. Thanks and be well.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#409491 Dec 14, 2012
LTM wrote:
Power of Your Love with Lyrics
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proj nmin sa bibstud,. hehehehe,...
Hillsong - Power Of Your Love (With Lyrics)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#409492 Dec 14, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>it also is written that if you judge, then give a rightous judgement. idiots like you try to silence people and people like me aint afraid of charlatans like you.HOW ABOUT THAT? MR FRAUD.
these words were written years ago by people that have known how much of a fraud(like you) that he really was and is.
as it is written, be sure your sins will find you out.
just as God allowed me to find out how fraudulent that you are.
~~~
SO YOU THINK YOU ARE IMMUNE...
YOU HAVE HY JACKED THIS FORUM AND TURNED IT INTO A TABLOID GOSSIP FORUM
POSTING SUBJECTS THAT HAVE NO RELEVANCE TO THE REAL TOPIC...
EVIDENTLY THE DEVIL HAS HY JACKED YOUR HEART/MIND AND TURNED IT INTO STONE.
YOU SHOULD BE IN A PSYCHIATRIC WARD FOR THOSE THAT ARE POSSESSED WITH A DEMONIC RELIGIOUS SPIRIT...
YOU ARE RELIGIOUS...BUT IN NO WAY ARE YOUR ACTIONS THAT OF A CHRISTIAN...
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409493 Dec 14, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
SO YOU THINK YOU ARE IMMUNE...
YOU HAVE HY JACKED THIS FORUM AND TURNED IT INTO A TABLOID GOSSIP FORUM
POSTING SUBJECTS THAT HAVE NO RELEVANCE TO THE REAL TOPIC...
EVIDENTLY THE DEVIL HAS HY JACKED YOUR HEART/MIND AND TURNED IT INTO STONE.
YOU SHOULD BE IN A PSYCHIATRIC WARD FOR THOSE THAT ARE POSSESSED WITH A DEMONIC RELIGIOUS SPIRIT...
YOU ARE RELIGIOUS...BUT IN NO WAY ARE YOUR ACTIONS THAT OF A CHRISTIAN...
"YOU HAVE HY JACKED THIS FORUM AND TURNED IT INTO A TABLOID GOSSIP FORUM
POSTING SUBJECTS THAT HAVE NO RELEVANCE TO THE REAL TOPIC..."

People in glass houses....

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#409494 Dec 14, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
SPEAKING OF foxholes...
JESUS THREW HIMSELF UPON THE GRENADE...
THAT SATAN HAS LOBED UPON MANKIND (in the garden of Eden) AND
ABSORBED ALL ....IN HIS OWN BODY (all our iniquity, sorrow pain and death)
THAT WE MIGHT HAVE
LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY....
________
Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isa 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isa 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and
shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities.
"SPEAKING OF foxholes...
JESUS THREW HIMSELF UPON THE GRENADE...
THAT SATAN HAS LOBED UPON MANKIND (in the garden of Eden) AND
ABSORBED ALL ....IN HIS OWN BODY (all our iniquity, sorrow pain and death)
THAT WE MIGHT HAVE
LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY...."

Why do you make things up?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#409495 Dec 14, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>ani lo medaberet ivrit
I'm sorry, is your use of another language out to impress me?

It hasn't. In fact, it only seems to hinder our discussion.

Now about that post that was directed to you?

Are you working up the honesty to reply in kind?

Probably not, huh?

Why? You don't like being honest?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#409496 Dec 14, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
"YOU HAVE HY JACKED THIS FORUM AND TURNED IT INTO A TABLOID GOSSIP FORUM
POSTING SUBJECTS THAT HAVE NO RELEVANCE TO THE REAL TOPIC..."
People in glass houses...
~~~

YOU LIVE IN "A GLASS HOUSE," ALRIGHT.

A house that is exposed across the earth..because of the sin that is revealed in it.

A house that is supposed to represent the attributes of Jesus Christ,

but it is a house of ill repute because it represents

it's own carnally minded self instead of Jesus.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#409497 Dec 14, 2012
Michael wrote:
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I can spend my day anyway I want to. For some reason that seems to bother you.(lol)
If you don't like my posts than why do you respond so often? Haven't you other things to do?(lol)
He cannot argue against your facts, so his only recourse is to attack you. It's a troll thing.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#409498 Dec 14, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a Topix board. Obviously, you don't agree with his points.
As petty insults your only retort, he must be presenting an uncomfortable truth.
That is what a troll does.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#409499 Dec 14, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Pad good friend
I know what you mean, but I think we must expand our definition of being a Christian into more metaphysical surroundings....
You'll promote Self, yet you refuse to acknowledge it?

Why?

I'm starting to think you are Gnostic.
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
More or less, people of faith are going to be those promised to Abraham in Gen12:1-3(...in you all families of the earth shall be blessed.). And these go to Abraham's bosom, and are continuing to do so to this day.
Citation please.

People are becoming Sumerian?
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
So we must be more inclusive as to who is saved by God....
Yep - keep working at dividing the followers.

You are sooo right-eous, why haven't I've seen this part of you before?
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Now those that hear the message, and ignore, or reject it is one thing. But for instance, if a Christian sees in another, poor in spirit, yet being pitiful, hurt, but living by faith, and being charitable with the things he owns, is that not the Image of God?
Nah - that would be Self.
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Before we think badly of some preacher, such as Billy Graham because of his beliefs, and experience, we need much introspection as to how much we are a service to the Kingdom of God.
"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God" - Jesus

Why don't you believe Jesus?
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Christianity is not some group in this world....There are plenty of those to go around, be they individuals, clans, tribes, nations, religions, empires, kingdoms. So Christiantiy needn't and doesn't act like other groups of people. It does not need anything but God, and His Grace. And for those persecuted for the sake of the Kingdom of God, we pray for, and share in their sufferings. It is not other religions that persecute, rather it is the world, and those of the world.
*hugs you*

I knew there would be others who claim to know the mind of "God".

How did you acquire this ability?
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
I think faith is inclusive, and not exclusive....For Christians must be known by their love, and not their abilities, and accomplishments in this world.
...as well as Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Agnostic and Gnostic.

Why do you continue to segregate people into little groups?

Christianity does divide.

Self.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#409500 Dec 14, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
"SPEAKING OF foxholes...
JESUS THREW HIMSELF UPON THE GRENADE...
THAT SATAN HAS LOBED UPON MANKIND (in the garden of Eden) AND
ABSORBED ALL ....IN HIS OWN BODY (all our iniquity, sorrow pain and death)
THAT WE MIGHT HAVE
LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY...."
Why do you make things up?
~~~~

ITS LIKE THE CEILING...It's over your head..RIGHT?
atemcowboy

Waverly, OH

#409501 Dec 14, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry, is your use of another language out to impress me?
It hasn't. In fact, it only seems to hinder our discussion.
Now about that post that was directed to you?
Are you working up the honesty to reply in kind?
Probably not, huh?
Why? You don't like being honest?
hard to please, arent YOU?

you spoke of a scientific mind, and now you denigrate me because I know a little about other languages.
and I knew a little about reading a ekg, DO YOU?

I gave the intials so anyone could have googled them concerning ekg's and found out that they were.

perhaps you might want to look at my nick again, it might clue you in on something.

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