Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
truth

Perth, Australia

#409357 Dec 13, 2012
sometimes people think you need work fisical job..
mind..fore one moment you can have..much more then you working entire life as fisical job..
yes
to be crazy and lazy..art he art every heart..
perfect describe people ..when they past away..many have lots of money after..

pattern of crazy and lazy innovation..which nobody understood or take concern can be..much more worthy then one hard worker do for entire life..

what bible say about that..

''talent..gifted''
According bible..they worthy much more 1000 times then anyone who work hard simple job entire life.

Everything in vain from man..ecclesiastic ..vanity vanity vanity..

what a crazy ideology what a naive diploma..one card can sweep off every formula from your powerful innovation..
one pure mind..even when others try ruin life of that life..still god reserve..where ..in heart as well in your subconsciousness..by

''work and posses on the end everything ruin and destroy''

Jesus Christ words is perfect.
''Did you know what your Master prepare?''
''Your God is pure''
''Don't lose yourself because of me''.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#409358 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Even the demons believe in Jesus.
James was talking to people who think like Protestants do. Luther misunderstood James and therefore called it an epistle of straw, because it did not fit. The devils believe but they do not do good works for which we are ordained. You people seem to think people automatically become sinless and start producing good works. Then when they sin you say, "Well they werent really saved. They were weak. NO! James says to call upon the presbyter and your sins will be forgiven. What!? A saved person still sinned? Gasp Call upon a man..Double Gasp! For the prayers of the righteous man are heard.

Paul gives a man over to Satan to save him, but you say he was never really saved.

James 2: 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

James is very clear here. It is by your actions and NOT by faith alone. You must cooperate with Gods Grace. You think the good works mechanism just starts flowing. James is addressing the people who are not doing anything to grow in grace and let God work through them. The Catholic position is not that we can do works alone or of ourselves to merit salvation. That was the way of the law. That is what Paul was talking about. Works of the LAW! These are the works of the individual in which the law judges. Works of faith, Charity, hope, and love these are in accordance with his will.

If you think there are no Protestants running around running around doing whatever feels good while telling people they are saved for sure then think again. The autogoodworks button must have a malfunction.

James says:

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(Do you see?) Not by Faith Alone

22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?(Do you see?) Faith and works are not seperated. I even used the KJV version.

We are saved by Grace through Faith. Faith and good works work together to make perfect. Not works of the law. Not works which you boast that you did to earn your salvation. Not works that you are bound to in an unforgiving system with no room for error. The law is a rigid unforgiving system. Works that sanctify and proclaim Christ is in you. A perserverence to the end, a continual repentance, a desire to do his will not yours. Grace that grows within you. It has never been the Catholic position that we can earn our way to salvation through good works alone. That is what you say it is. Luther never understood the Catholic Position. The council of Trent made it very clear that works of ourselves has never been the teaching. Luther discovered a Catholic teaching which he misunderstood and you may never understand either. He rejected James and rejected the teaching from the church from the very beginning.

cont.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#409359 Dec 13, 2012
Faith is done in action of thought and free will. It is necessary but it isnt the only thing. Again the devils have faith, but they excercise their free will to choose another way. Luther did not understand James point which he used Abraham as an example. James says, "Cant you see?" Faith and action makes perfect.

Faith is the the mustard seed and necessary for a beginning. Hope brings a search for greater understanding and growth. Love is the fruits by which people will know you. All Glory and honor goes to God not the man who says see what I did while mocking God. The man who says I am better and do more than those Christians. That person is not operating in Grace but will be judged by the law for he is not under the Grace which Christ offered in his sacrifice. However to let Christ live and work in you then you must accept his gift of Grace in Faith and do good works in his name. The World will hate you for it hated him first. We are one in Christ who comes to us in faith, and offers us hope and works through us with works of love. You can supress the spirit, you can turn away, you can do nothing and say faith was all that you needed and ignore the words of James and misunderstand what Paul said just as Luther did and you now do. Or you can cooperate with God and grow or you can be a seed planted in stony ground never taking root, shallow roots or grow in rich soil. The choice is yours.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#409360 Dec 13, 2012
who="Anthony MN"
So His grace causes you to only feed starving Christians and house homeless Christians, to hell with the hungry and homeless non-Christians ?

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Jesus didn't say 'feed only Christians'. His image is on every man.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

KayMarie

P.S. Demons DO believe/KNOW that God IS...and they tremble, because they know that He is just.

Since: Dec 12

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#409361 Dec 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
So His grace causes you to only feed starving Christians and house homeless Christians, to hell with the hungry and homeless non-Christians ?
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Jesus didn't say 'feed only Christians'. His image is on every man.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
KayMarie
P.S. Demons DO believe/KNOW that God IS...and they tremble, because they know that He is just.
The devil and his demons know their time is short.
Loren Eberly

Bellefontaine, OH

#409362 Dec 13, 2012
Ryan Is Needed In Congress and Governor’s Office:

We The Government of this Representative Republic need Ryan in Congress and Governor Office. To bring USA into compliance with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

And hold every worker, consumer, and taxpayer accountable; to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider; Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

This enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President and Congress complying with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands; enables President and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget.

President and Congress holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions. Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409363 Dec 13, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>a percoset 5 is strong pain killers. yeah sure right.lol@u.
so maybe I should smoke pot like your friend marge?
even my doctor knows that they arent strong enough.
considering I have a pinched nerve ,to go along with the shingles, that sends pain down both legs.
But I get along, and I dont LIE LIKE YOU CONSTANTLY.
So is it the sin of self-righteousness that causes all of these problems to come upon you?
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409364 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say that. In fact, they can of course receive forgiveness, but only after repentance, which would require them to acknowledge their sinful state and remove themselves from it.
So a person who was divorced and remarried for (let's say) six years and has fathered three children and then gets saved(but according to you and the RCC is living in sin) should now abandone his wife and his children to be "right with God". Really thought this through didn't you.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#409365 Dec 13, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
Check them shooting stars out Marge,they are really cool.
Check out all the beauty that God provided us to enjoy while we are on this earth.
The stars look like diamonds in the sky.
Breathtaking tonight here in East Tennessee.
We get the Northen Lights up this way FOL, We don't have all the street lights or tall buildings big cities do, so the stars are very bright too right out my back door. One night I got up and the moon seem to be sitting on the house across from us it was beautiful.
Loren Eberly

Bellefontaine, OH

#409366 Dec 13, 2012
UA buys Central-Hower High School:

UA buys Central-Hower High School with money derived from Students wages (union contract) investment and independent business profit.

This is defiant of Constitution and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding UA and every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of paying for all their assets and every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every graduate, parent, worker, consumer, and taxpayer, to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409367 Dec 13, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>WRONG.
she said that she hadnt seen anything like what I said about your friends and so I showed her as this is a public forum and I dont need your approval, nor any authority from you since you have none.like I said, you are a filthy pervert.
but again. this question to you.
and how do you know that oddjg isnt here anymore?
were you trolling as him?
and are you Bob too?I wouldnt put anything past you.
You are a sick little man.
truth

Perth, Australia

#409369 Dec 13, 2012
loren loren loren

god is upon all of us

when your jamerica been in full scale of beneficiary..others cry as well left alone..

now
You are Mr and Mrs Borowich.

Borrowing per day..how much?!

Is that us-full in many case?
yes i mean only issue in single or name of many organization..

Now you liked make what?
Mr and Mrs Zillirovic as Zillionovic!

Zillion in name of globalization.

Small tiny innovation which worthy more then anything per billions people on this planet can make challenge.
Except only thing food.
As well healthy way.

To much thing in air water around us as vibration
which make sick as well polluted blade water as well mind.
guest

United States

#409370 Dec 13, 2012
William wrote:
I am glad the Pope said this, even more glad he is being attacked for it. Jesus said "If the world hates you, realize that it hated me first." John 15:18 Of all the Christian denominations the Catholic Church,(not a denomination as it IS the Church Jesus started) is hated and picked on the most. As for why stay Catholic, there are many reasons but number one to me is the sacred and most Holy Eucharist. If you are Catholic and deny this, the Eucharist, you are denying Christ himself.
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WOW! YOU say this as if the Catholic church has ALWAYS been persecuted - rather than the world's worst PERSECUTORS!
There is a reason the Roman Catholic Church is ... as you say ... hated and picked on the most!
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That reason IS:
FOR 1500 years she waged WAR against those who were NOT Catholic. Their own leader SANCTIONED TORTURE AND MURDER OF 'HERETICS'! and this is one of the main reasons there are now so many Protestant denominations ... everyone is trying to figure out how to get away from the entrenched Catholic teachings.
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Show me another Christian *denomination* that has murdered MORE so called heretics than the Catholic church, and I will say you have a valid point. I don't need to sy your point is valid, because I know in advance you can't point to a more murderous *so called* Christian church.

The Catholic church CALLS itself "Christian" but that doesn't mean that it is.
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"If the world hates you, realize that it hated me first." John 15:18
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Wow. That is like the playground bully FINALLY getting the crap beat out of him and running to the principle, bawling like a baby.
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READ ABOUT THE PAGAN ORIGINS OF THE EUCHARIST - and how long it took the Catholic Church to fully embrace the dogma.
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Or are you truly afraid to know the truth?
I thinks that's it.
Catholics are truly afraid to know the truth.
I know I was when I was Catholic, and I went through some emotional changes.
I will say again, the man who told me about the Catholic church didn't mince words and didn't let me off easy.
He was blunt.
He was mean.
It opened my eyes.
Nothing else would have worked, I was too brainwashed.
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PAGAN ORIGIN of the Eucharist:
http://www.mtc.org/eucharst.html

The doctrine of transubstantiation does not date back to the Last Supper as is supposed. It was a controverted topic for many centuries before officially becoming an article of faith, which means that it is essential to salvation according to the Roman Catholic Church. The idea of a corporal presence was vaguely held by some, such as Ambrose, but it was not until 831 A.D. that Paschasius Radbertus, a Benedictine monk, published a treatise openly advocating the doctrine of transubstantiation. Even then, for almost another four hundred years, theological war was waged over this teaching by bishops and people alike until at the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215 A.D., it was officially defined and canonized as a dogma.
truth

Perth, Australia

#409371 Dec 14, 2012
every formula on this planet which man make ..yopu say catholic church do that..Are you for sure about that?
Long time ago in matrix come evil..long time ago..nothing to do with honest people or belivers.

must be funny..
pro death formula..as well lips full of liars..i receive criminals in my house who is been very cooperative with authority and law drugs crime everything..they are justice..yep..but they charge me..not corupt people..simple used someone who is sick..by holy thief's as well corupt authority.

Is there Jesus Christ..yes he is been one between them..did they accuse him..yes yes they accuse Jesus too..
what a about you my lovely guest..did they judging you..o don't cry if they judging you..its nothing..i hear when you cry all angels cry as well rain coming too.They can call you after holy when you died!!!

''Are you for sure rich people pay tax?:"
no no no they never make any profit not even one pro-cent..they are all negative gearing..very well
and please know.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#409372 Dec 14, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>So is it the sin of self-righteousness that causes all of these problems to come upon you?
tell us how you know that oddjg is gone and ONLY YOU KNOW THAT. WERE YOU TROLLING ANDUSING THAT NAME? ARE YOU THE PERSON THAT CALLED KAREN A bXXXX?

dit topix kck you off with that nick, is that how you know that he is gone?

Since: Jan 08

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#409373 Dec 14, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>You are a sick little man.
I wonder who is sick, a person that knows that oddjg is gone because he used that nick to cuss people out as a troll like you.

THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU COULD KNOW THAT HE WAS GONE IS IF YOU ARE oddjg.

I said some time ago that both of you wer just alike. both filthy mouth and now we can know. you busted yourself idiot.
truth

Perth, Australia

#409374 Dec 14, 2012
Why you against poor as well hopeless people ''guest''?

Did people kill each other without gun..if not tell me about Cain and Abel?
truth

Perth, Australia

#409375 Dec 14, 2012
Cain and Abel story.
Who tell us that story?
Is that time be any Christan?

Since: Jan 08

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#409376 Dec 14, 2012
how DID YOU KNOW THAT oddjg was gone?

4GVN
Sikeston, MO
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<quoted text>no, topix allows cussing, at least on other forums, so I would suspect they would on this forum also.oddjg wrote this to karen. on june 27.
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
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Really? You are the best at making up stories about everyone and everything. If a lie was a penny you would be a multi-millionaire. You know when you hid behind another name like a little bxxxx.
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and that wasnt all that he said. as I have said many times, 4bdn issued John a perverted invitation(and If I used the word as to what he is, topix would censor that), and not only did I call him on it but Karen did also.but some of your friends stayed on the sidelines and were afraid to say anything to him

So lets all go back a year ago and see if we can find something to attack. That is all you are about PERCY. You are really pathetic.

Old JG is not even here any more(ARE YOU THE PERSON THAT CALLED KAREN A BXXXX) an yet you continue to attack and condemn. To what avail? Does that make you feel like less of a worm?

Since: Jan 08

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#409377 Dec 14, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>So is it the sin of self-righteousness that causes all of these problems to come upon you?
with the fusssing that Karen and I done with each other, neitehr of us ever stooped as low as you are.

to call her a BXXXX as your troll nick oddjg did is reprehensible, and then to act like you are a christian towards anthony and others.

you busted yourself, no one else would know if someone was gone unless they are that person.

TOPIX KICKED YOU OFF SO THAT IS HOW YOU KNOW THAT he IS GONE.

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