Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[hojo]

Michael wrote:

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Its obvious HOJO struggles with his faith. I have never seen any poster so defensive and angry all the time whenever the catholic church and its leaders are mentioned for their wrong doings.
You have to take the good with the bad. He hasn't mastered that yet.

Wrong again Michael, which is no surprise to me or any
Catholic on this forum. The "only" thing I struggle with is "putting up with" people like you and 4GVN"who have nothing better to do than (IN DESPERATION) continue to criticize, attack, condemn and spread their anti-catholic (hate & hostility) against "my own Catholic faith and the faith of other Catholic Christians who "know the TRUTH".---and ---that TRUE, has, is and will CONTINUE to remain in Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church. Continue to REMIND YOURSELF MICHAEL---- for over 2000 years, heretics, false teachers, agnostics and atheists have "come and gone"---YET---the CHURCH---the One True (Universal-Catholic) Church established by Jesus Christ HIMSELF--------"LIVES ON" ---and will continue to ---"LIVE ON"!

[Michael]

Makesure100 wrote:

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Correct. If we were perfect, maybe, but then He is a God of love. Catholics, most religions teach hellfire to keep their congregation coming back. Sense eventually will rule the world over to end this crappy story.

FEAR and ETERNAL SALVATION are the greatest tools that was ever created by religion. EVERY! religion past and present, used these mechanisms to control the flock.

Without using FEAR/ETERNAL SALVATION as tools, religions wouldn't exist.

Life long FEAR should never take a foothold in ones conscience.

[Truth]

Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:

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Cowboy. I have posted a pic of myself and Seraphima

lol....cute!

[Michael]

Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:

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Cowboy. I have posted a pic of myself and Seraphima

.......and Bratt Pitt and Angelina Joilet have posted Your real pictures on their website dreaming of looking you and Seprihima.(lol)

[Michael]

hojo wrote:

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Wrong again Michael, which is no surprise to me or any
Catholic on this forum. The "only" thing I struggle with is "putting up with" people like you and 4GVN"who have nothing better to do than (IN DESPERATION) continue to criticize, attack, condemn and spread their anti-catholic (hate & hostility) against "my own Catholic faith and the faith of other Catholic Christians who "know the TRUTH".---and ---that TRUE, has, is and will CONTINUE to remain in Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church. Continue to REMIND YOURSELF MICHAEL---- for over 2000 years, heretics, false teachers, agnostics and atheists have "come and gone"---YET---the CHURCH---the One True (Universal-Catholic) Church established by Jesus Christ HIMSELF--------"LIVES ON" ---and will continue to ---"LIVE ON"!

When something has been established as being wrong in the catholic church I will say so.

You haven't mastered accepting the truth when it occurs because you live in a fairy land of make believe that the church and its leaders have never done anything wrong.

Why would ANY God put his name on any church where worldwide scandals, corruption, lies, deceit, and coverups have occured........and you and everyone knows they have?

Why?

BUSTED!

[Michael]

hojo wrote:

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Wrong again Michael, which is no surprise to me or any
Catholic on this forum. The "only" thing I struggle with is "putting up with" people like you and 4GVN"who have nothing better to do than (IN DESPERATION) continue to criticize, attack, condemn and spread their anti-catholic (hate & hostility) against "my own Catholic faith and the faith of other Catholic Christians who "know the TRUTH".---and ---that TRUE, has, is and will CONTINUE to remain in Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church. Continue to REMIND YOURSELF MICHAEL---- for over 2000 years, heretics, false teachers, agnostics and atheists have "come and gone"---YET---the CHURCH---the One True (Universal-Catholic) Church established by Jesus Christ HIMSELF--------"LIVES ON" ---and will continue to ---"LIVE ON"!

Believe what you want! Who cares. You just have to understand that MOST others in our great world do not see the world according to you.

Your own Pope 14 months ago stated that AGNOSTICS have a better chance at going to the kingdom of heaven than do social catholics.

You are a social catholic. Sorry for the bad news!

[Truth]

Chuck wrote:

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Gal 3:6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness".

Genesis 15:6

6 Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness.

Did Abraham become a believer because he was circumcised???

[confrinting with the word]

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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The nice thing about being anonymous is: We are all the same. You don't know if someone is old or young, sickly or healthy, male or female, black, brown, yellow or white, or anything else. We are all equal here.
If you are too old, too young, too sickly, or anything else, it is you that should not be here, for your own sake. I do not change because someone who is anonymous to me, makes a claim about themselves. You could very well be a healthy young boy, sitting on your mother's computer, acting out a part.
If you want treated special, stay out of the virtual world; stay off of public forums.

~~~

Common curtsey (which is ignored by some here) should prevail from the

one that post,(especially those that suppose to be Christians) and

are supposedly allowing Jesus Christ to represent Himself, to represent

Him self through them.

If their actions are other wise ...IT IS A SURE SIGN THAT THEY ARE HYPOCRITES, AND THEIR CARNAL NATURE IS RULING THEM.

(DOUAY TRANSLATION)

Jas 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge, among you? Let him shew, by a good contestation, his work in the meekness of wisdom.

Jas 3:14 But if you have bitter zeal, and there be contention in your hearts: glory not and be not liars against the truth.

Jas 3:15 For this is not wisdom, descending from above: but earthly, sensual, devilish.

Jas 3:16 For where envying and contention is: there is inconstancy and every evil work.

----
Jas 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above, first indeed is chaste, then peaceable, modest, easy to be persuaded, consenting to the good, full of mercy and good fruits, without judging, without dissimulation.

Jas 3:18 And the fruit of justice is sown in peace, to them that make peace.

Jas_4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

----
F.B. Meyer commentary (DOUAY TRANSLATION)

Seek Wisdom from Above

Jam_3:13-18

The true wisdom is not the child of the intellect, but of the heart. It

consists not only in what we know, but in what we are. It is in this

sense that it is used in the earlier chapters of the book of Proverbs

and in Job_28:1-28. Some who profess to be wise are jealous and

factious, despising others and confident in their superiority. This

spirit and temper are from beneath.

Notice

this exquisite string of qualities-like a thread of pearls-that

characterize true wisdom:

First, pure; then peaceable-

this is God’s order, never peace at any price.

First the holy heart,

then the quiet and gentle one.

Mercy and good works follow,

“free from favoritism and insincerity”; and

as the peace-loving soul goeth through the world,

dropping the seeds of peace,

those seeds produce harvests of righteousness.

Those that in peace sow peace,

shall reap a harvest of righteousness,

the fruit of peace.

Such a springtime!

Such an autumn!

Isa 53:5 But

1.he was wounded for our iniquities,

2.he was bruised for our sins:

3.THE CHASTISEMENT OF OUR PEACE WAS UPON HIM/JESUS,

and

4.by his bruises we are healed.

[Chuck]

Truth wrote:

<quoted text>
Genesis 15:6
6 Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness.
Did Abraham become a believer because he was circumcised???

Romans 4:16 That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all

[LTM]

Thursday, December 13, 2012
This Morning's Meditation
C. H. Spurgeon

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"Salt without prescribing how much."—Ezra 7:22.
ALT was used in every offering made by fire unto the Lord, and from its preserving and purifying properties it was the grateful emblem of divine grace in the soul. It is worthy of our attentive regard that, when Artaxerxes gave salt to Ezra the priest, he set no limit to the quantity, and we may be quite certain that when the King of kings distributes grace among His royal priesthood, the supply is not cut short by Him. Often are we straitened in ourselves, but never in the Lord. He who chooses to gather much manna will find that he may have as much as he desires. There is no such famine in Jerusalem that the citizens should eat their bread by weight and drink their water by measure. Some things in the economy of grace are measured; for instance our vinegar and gall are given us with such exactness that we never have a single drop too much, but of the salt of grace no stint is made, "Ask what thou wilt and it shall be given unto thee." Parents need to lock up the fruit cupboard, and the sweet jars, but there is no need to keep the salt-box under lock and key, for few children will eat too greedily from that. A man may have too much money, or too much honour, but he cannot have too much grace. When Jeshurun waxed fat in the flesh, he kicked against God, but there is no fear of a man's becoming too full of grace: a plethora of grace is impossible. More wealth brings more care, but more grace brings more joy. Increased wisdom is increased sorrow, but abundance of the Spirit is fulness of joy. Believer, go to the throne for a large supply of heavenly salt. It will season thine afflictions, which are unsavoury without salt; it will preserve thy heart which corrupts if salt be absent, and it will kill thy sins even as salt kills reptiles. Thou needest much; seek much, and have much.

[Chuck]

Truth wrote:

<quoted text>
Genesis 15:6
6 Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness.
Did Abraham become a believer because he was circumcised???

Galatians 5:2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. 3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. 4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. 5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.

[LTM]

Bible Verse of the Day

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

www.Christ.com

[LTM]

Intercessory Prayer
13, 2012
... men always ought to pray and not lose heart —Luke 18:1

You cannot truly intercede through prayer if you do not believe in the reality of redemption. Instead, you will simply be turning intercession into useless sympathy for others, which will serve only to increase the contentment they have for remaining out of touch with God. True intercession involves bringing the person, or the circumstance that seems to be crashing in on you, before God, until you are changed by His attitude toward that person or circumstance. Intercession means to “fill up ...[with] what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ”(Colossians 1:24), and this is precisely why there are so few intercessors. People describe intercession by saying,“It is putting yourself in someone else’s place.” That is not true! Intercession is putting yourself in God’s place; it is having His mind and His perspective.

As an intercessor, be careful not to seek too much information from God regarding the situation you are praying about, because you may be overwhelmed. If you know too much, more than God has ordained for you to know, you can’t pray; the circumstances of the people become so overpowering that you are no longer able to get to the underlying truth.

Our work is to be in such close contact with God that we may have His mind about everything, but we shirk that responsibility by substituting doing for interceding. And yet intercession is the only thing that has no drawbacks, because it keeps our relationship completely open with God.

What we must avoid in intercession is praying for someone to be simply “patched up.” We must pray that person completely through into contact with the very life of God. Think of the number of people God has brought across our path, only to see us drop them! When we pray on the basis of redemption, God creates something He can create in no other way than through intercessory prayer.

Bible in One Year: Hosea 12-14; Revelation 4

[LTM]

Wisdom from Oswald Chambers
Jesus Christ can afford to be misunderstood; we cannot. Our weakness lies in always wanting to vindicate ourselves. The Place of Help,

[confrinting with the word]

who="Truth"
Genesis 15:6
6 Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness.
Did Abraham become a believer because he was circumcised???

**********

No. Abraham was circumcised BECAUSE he was a believer.

KayMarie

[confrinting with the word]

confrinting with the word wrote:

<quoted text>
~~~
Common curtsey (which is ignored by some here) should prevail from the
one that post,(especially those that suppose to be Christians) and
are supposedly allowing Jesus Christ to represent Himself, to represent
Him self through them.
If their actions are other wise ...IT IS A SURE SIGN THAT THEY ARE HYPOCRITES, AND THEIR CARNAL NATURE IS RULING THEM.
(DOUAY TRANSLATION)
Jas 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge, among you? Let him shew, by a good contestation, his work in the meekness of wisdom.
Jas 3:14 But if you have bitter zeal, and there be contention in your hearts: glory not and be not liars against the truth.
Jas 3:15 For this is not wisdom, descending from above: but earthly, sensual, devilish.
Jas 3:16 For where envying and contention is: there is inconstancy and every evil work.
----
Jas 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above, first indeed is chaste, then peaceable, modest, easy to be persuaded, consenting to the good, full of mercy and good fruits, without judging, without dissimulation.
Jas 3:18 And the fruit of justice is sown in peace, to them that make peace.
Jas_4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
----
F.B. Meyer commentary (DOUAY TRANSLATION)
Seek Wisdom from Above
Jam_3:13-18
The true wisdom is not the child of the intellect, but of the heart. It
consists not only in what we know, but in what we are. It is in this
sense that it is used in the earlier chapters of the book of Proverbs
and in Job_28:1-28. Some who profess to be wise are jealous and
factious, despising others and confident in their superiority. This
spirit and temper are from beneath.
Notice
this exquisite string of qualities-like a thread of pearls-that
characterize true wisdom:
First, pure; then peaceable-
this is God’s order, never peace at any price.
First the holy heart,
then the quiet and gentle one.
Mercy and good works follow,
“free from favoritism and insincerity”; and
as the peace-loving soul goeth through the world,
dropping the seeds of peace,
those seeds produce harvests of righteousness.
Those that in peace sow peace,
shall reap a harvest of righteousness,
the fruit of peace.
Such a springtime!
Such an autumn!
Isa 53:5 But
1.he was wounded for our iniquities,
2.he was bruised for our sins:
3.THE CHASTISEMENT OF OUR PEACE WAS UPON HIM/JESUS,
and
4.by his bruises we are healed.

~~~

The Apostle Paul wrote..(DOUAY TRANSLATION)

2Co 10:2 But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence wherewith I am thought to be bold, against some who reckon us as if we walked according to the flesh.

2Co 10:3 ==> For though we walk in the flesh,

-->we do not war according to the flesh.

2Co 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal

but

mighty to God, unto the pulling down of fortifications, destroying counsels,

2Co 10:5 And

every height that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God:

and bringing into captivity

every understanding unto the obedience of Christ:

2Co 10:6 And having in readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience shall be fulfilled.

[Anthony MN]

Dust Storm wrote:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch...

lol. Been a long time since I've seen that movie.

[truth]

as well he know everything on front, you can't hide nothing..nothing at all..
Jesus Christ words is perfect.
How much perfect?

''they attacking you because of me, but you will endure''
''they do to me as well they doing to you''..

How many Lords you have sir?

''love your God with your mind and heart..don't have another God before me''..

[confrinting with the word]

who="Chuck"
Galatians 5:2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. 3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. 4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. 5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.

**********

This does not negate Abraham's faith which led him to obey God and be circumcised. THAT was the first (Old) covenant.

Note the 'in Christ' part of your reference, which says that neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is the basis for New Covenant faith.

The NEW covenant (testament) is based, not on circumcision, but on Jesus' sacrifice...circumcision of the heart.

KayMarie

[Anthony MN]

confrinting with the word wrote:

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~~~
Evidently you have nothing to say that gives any defense to
the fables and conjecture that your church and teaches propagates...
SO You would rather spend your time making personal accusations,
against a 79 year old lady..Right?

I don't know any 79 year old 'ladies' that spend their time spreading dirt about people on a public forum.