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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Truth

Leesburg, VA

#409178 Dec 13, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, hank in this instance, gotta agree with her and if as I said, you were in a church that follows the Bible, you also could see it.
what is right, is right, no matter who says it.
if God says that He changes not, why wouldnt He do the same things for us now as he did then? does He have less Power now? of course not.Does He loves us less that He did then, of course not.
why dont YOU see miracles in your church? Jesus gave the answer if you only Look. I am not going to give it to you.a great article.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid...
You can agree with her...it is fine.....

I didn't saying healing has stopped....

That is dealing with the POWER OF PRAYER and God's will...

What I am saying is there is NOT one man on this earth that has the POWERS that the apostles possessed....

Why am I wasting money on HEALTH INSURANCE???

and all the other questions that I asked KayMarie....

If there are apostles today that have that kind of POWER, I would have moved HEAVEN and EARTH to obtain that person to SAVE my MOTHER and NEPHEW from death???

The POWER today is in PRAYER and if it is God's will....
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409179 Dec 13, 2012
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that any different to what James says?
So you're not really 'faith alone' are you?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#409180 Dec 13, 2012
onfrinting with the word wrote:
who="Truth"
In other words, KayMarie, as an apostle,(if you believe you are an apostle or think they exist today) do you/anyone else have the POWER to raise the dead???
As an apostle, do you/anyone else have the POWER to heal the sick???
**********
Apostles exist today. They do have the power to heal the sick, and raise the dead. It happens, not as much as it ought, because WE DO NOT EXERCISE that sort of faith. I have seen it.
Heb. 11:1 Now faith IS the substance of things hoped for (expected is a better translation); the EVIDENCE of things not seen.
KayMarie

Oh my....have you been misled....

~~~

So you say that the Bible has lied... Right?

For you.... God might as well not exist...

are you sure you are not and atheist?

What is it in the bible... that you don't deny? anyway

First You deny the existence of the Holy Ghost power today and believe that God evicted Him from the church..

Now you deny the that there are men today that are

gifts to the church...

1Co_12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Heb 4:2 For unto us also it hath been declared in like manner as unto them. But the word of hearing did not profit them, not being mixed with faith of those things they heard.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#409181 Dec 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Truth"
Oh my....have you been misled....
**********
I have two brothers who were raised from the dead. I have been INSTANTLY healed from broken bones (on crutches), and I've seen many other things. The God of the Bible can still roll back the Red Sea and the Jordan River.
KayMarie
How were your brothers raised from the dead???

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#409182 Dec 13, 2012
who="atemcowboy"lol, so WHO ddo you think gve these nurses and doctors the intellignece to do these jobs.
the answer is simple GOD.
we have diseases because we have them, no simple answer.even tho this answer will not be accepted by gif and his wife, jesus died for our sins, not any physical healings, since He healed PEOPLE BEFORE HE DIED.
AND I HOPE NEITHER OF THEM CALL ME ON THIS BECAUSE I DONT WISH TO ACT LIKE I AM MUCH SMARTER THAT THEY ARE WITH THEIR 125 YEARS OF STUDYING

**********

Isaiah and Peter both say, "By His stripes we WERE/ARE HEALED.

KM
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#409183 Dec 13, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>she has already told you Hank. but I can reiterate her words if you prefer.
those men who followed were at first students, and then they graduated. simple can be.
you are trying to make it more difficult than what God has made it.we who have those offices are nothing special. we are just officers.period!
See from these verses:

Mark 9:1

9 And he said to them,“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before ***they ~~~SEE~~~ that the kingdom of God has come with POWER.”***

Acts 2:33

33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and ~~~has poured out what you now see and hear.~~~

SEE and HEAR....

These purposes, as the promise, pertained exclusively to the apostles.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409184 Dec 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Would you say that pasting salacious stories about Catholics on this board is an example of 'good deeds/works'?
**********
Thanks. I needed to look that word up, anyway. It comes from the same 'root' as 'salt'...which happens to be healing, cleansing, and brings out the flavor of truth, as well as food.
I haven't posted anything but the truth.
KayMarie
So you think Jesus would approve of me posting these kinds of stories about pentecostal ministers? I don't think He would.

Repentance is foreign to you isn't it?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#409185 Dec 13, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
You can agree with her...it is fine.....
I didn't saying healing has stopped....
That is dealing with the POWER OF PRAYER and God's will...
What I am saying is there is NOT one man on this earth that has the POWERS that the apostles possessed....
Why am I wasting money on HEALTH INSURANCE???
and all the other questions that I asked KayMarie....
If there are apostles today that have that kind of POWER, I would have moved HEAVEN and EARTH to obtain that person to SAVE my MOTHER and NEPHEW from death???
The POWER today is in PRAYER and if it is God's will....
It is not that I agree with her per se, but rather she and I agree with what God teaches. and that is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

sometimes there are points that people agree with, just as there are some that you and I agree with.
the death on the Cross was Never about a physical healing, it dealt entirely with sins being taken away.

now some might disagree but i know what the bible says and for people to say that we are physically healed by that death is WRONG,TERRIBLY WRONG.

If our sicknesses were all to be healed now, we would not die, for death is a consequence of sin.and you know that to be true.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409186 Dec 13, 2012
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, James does not judge anyone one either. He says faith without works is dead. If your lifestyle doesn't reflect your faith you are spiritually dead. You do not have the faith that saves because your lifestyle shows you don't.
James is not adding works to salvation. He is saying if you claim to have faith, it should be apparent in your lifestyle because we both know it is Christ that works through Christians.
In other words, you believe a person who is saved, yet falls into sin, like re-marrying after a divorce, is really saved?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#409187 Dec 13, 2012
who="Truth"
How were your brothers raised from the dead???

**********
One of them was born dead (I was there). The other died in my arms during a bout with pneumonia. Prayer/faith made the difference.

I was dying from rheumatic fever when I was three years old. My mother and a Christian doctor were by my side. I saw a vision of heaven; mom said I sang a song about it. My sister said I kept saying, "I see the angels," AND I DID. I can still see that moment.

God is REAL, friends...

KayMarie
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#409188 Dec 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Truth"
OK...if there are apostles today that have the POWER to heal the sick....
Why do we have HEALTH INSURANCE???
Why do we have NURSES???
Why do we have DOCTORS???
Why do we have EMS workers with ambulances???
Why do we still have HOSPITALS???
Why are there still diseases???
*****
Today, it is the POWER OF PRAYER and God's will...not apostles....
**********
Because we don't exercise FAITH. I don't do it enough, but it WORKS.
I started to the hospital in an ambulance last June. The pain was unbearable. The EMT was doing an EKG on me. I began to sing ALOUD, How Great Thou Art. The EMT's joined in with me, and after one verse, my pain was gone. The EMT doing the EKG said that the EKG showed when the pain left.
You are encouraging me to 'work the works of Him Who sent me'. John 6:29 "THIS is the WORK of God, that you BELIEVE on Him Who sent ME.
Apostles learn that faith never gives up...and FAITH WORKS BY LOVE. If you are bitter and unforgiving, you hinder your faith.
KayMarie
Faith/belief along with the POWER OF PRAYER....and God's will be done....
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409189 Dec 13, 2012
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
"if a man say he has faith, but has not works? Shall faith be able to save him?"
***If a man says he has faith in Christ and he really doesn't, won't it eventually be apparent to the folks around him. He's not truly saved. No different than waht Jesus said," I never knew you"..
That's not what he says. He says nothing about whether 'he really doesn't', he says faith alone doesn't save. You have to have good works too.

You keep trying to insert 'the lifestyle' thing into this, when St. James is specific about 'works' like feeding the hungry and clothing the naked. Living a clean, moral like is important, but doing good works is the necessary component to faith.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#409190 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>It is a foolish and wrong analysis to believe that the Jewish people 'planned' to deny the Messiah as you are implying. The Jews simply did not understand that there are TWO advents of the Mesiah foretold in the scriptures. The Jews were looking for the second and not the first. They want conquering King to deliver them from bondage and oppression. They were not looking for a LAMB but a LION. They were not looking for a 'suffering Saviour'. Your reasoning is predjudicial and flawed.
4GVN good friend

You might be right....But then you would not believe in morale, or esprit decor. And that the Jews did not have an esprit decor for their religion/relationship with God....

And by your reasoning, once Jesus came, died, and was ressurrected all Jews must believe he is the Messiah. And we know they don't. But persecuted them as did the Gentiles. Why? Esprit decor....

Similarly, you don't believe Catholics are Christians..., and you want everyone to believe in your way of interpretting the Bible.

Lets face it, we all have that problem. But Jesus came already and set us free from that problem....And Paul in Galatians 3:28 states,

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

I think there is a rather definite wall building effort made by Satan, that seeks to divide and isolate people. And it can easily be seen here by those that try to tear down the wall, and those who build it up....

Lets not kid ourselves into thinking there are not some among us here that try to drive each other farther apart.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#409191 Dec 13, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
See from these verses:
Mark 9:1
9 And he said to them,“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before ***they ~~~SEE~~~ that the kingdom of God has come with POWER.”***
Acts 2:33
33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and ~~~has poured out what you now see and hear.~~~
SEE and HEAR....
These purposes, as the promise, pertained exclusively to the apostles.
~~~

QUESTION

Do you believe that it is god's will for a person to be sick?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#409192 Dec 13, 2012
who="Truth"
See from these verses:
Mark 9:1
9 And he said to them,“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before ***they ~~~SEE~~~ that the kingdom of God has come with POWER.”***
Acts 2:33
33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and ~~~has poured out what you now see and hear.~~~
SEE and HEAR....
These purposes, as the promise, pertained exclusively to the apostles.

**********

The disciples/apostles DID NOT TASTE DEATH before they saw Jesus in His glory on the Mount of Transfiguration...about one week later.

Yes, Jesus poured out the promise (which you now see and hear) on the day of Pentecost...and He is still pouring it out. Try Cornelius, etc. that received the promise.

Apostles.

KayMarie
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409193 Dec 13, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Anytime we do not do something God requires of us, we miss out on His grace and His blessings.
Doyou mean like attending His church?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#409194 Dec 13, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
See from these verses:
Mark 9:1
9 And he said to them,“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before ***they ~~~SEE~~~ that the kingdom of God has come with POWER.”*already fulfilled and the desciples didnt undestand what He was saying, they thought that one would not die. so please dont add to those wordds.
Acts 2:33
33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and ~~~has poured out what you now see and hear.~~~
SEE and HEAR....
These purposes, as the promise, pertained exclusively to the apostles.
No, you are greatly mistaken, for peter said it very plainly, this Promise is to you and your children, and their children.
and it is available for those who wish it even today.
that 33 verse was part of the preaching by Peter about JESUS. what are you trying to prove by using it. lets looks at the beginning of this message.
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
sorry, Hank, but according to those words, YOU are not one of His servants, if the HOLY GHOST has not been poured out on you, if you dont prophesy, have visions or dreams.
now that is the Message for all Christians that heed the Words spoken by Peter.and on 8/27/82, God poured out of His Spirit on me and my Experience is Biblical and is Real

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#409195 Dec 13, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for your response.That is good news about your home state.I hope someday we can move from here,but it does not look like it is ever going to happen.
Grass is not always greener somewhere else,but people find out that they are better off iin one new found place.
Thank God for good friends.And I also like Sirach and the Book of Wisdom.
Pad good friend

And may God bless and keep you.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#409196 Dec 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
onfrinting with the word wrote:
who="Truth"
In other words, KayMarie, as an apostle,(if you believe you are an apostle or think they exist today) do you/anyone else have the POWER to raise the dead???
As an apostle, do you/anyone else have the POWER to heal the sick???
**********
Apostles exist today. They do have the power to heal the sick, and raise the dead. It happens, not as much as it ought, because WE DO NOT EXERCISE that sort of faith. I have seen it.
Heb. 11:1 Now faith IS the substance of things hoped for (expected is a better translation); the EVIDENCE of things not seen.
KayMarie
Oh my....have you been misled....
~~~
So you say that the Bible has lied... Right?
For you.... God might as well not exist...
are you sure you are not and atheist?
What is it in the bible... that you don't deny? anyway
First You deny the existence of the Holy Ghost power today and believe that God evicted Him from the church..
Now you deny the that there are men today that are
gifts to the church...
1Co_12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
Heb 4:2 For unto us also it hath been declared in like manner as unto them. But the word of hearing did not profit them, not being mixed with faith of those things they heard.
We do have PHYSICAL HEALING, KayMarie:

James 5:14-16

14 Is anyone among you sick?~~~~~Let them call the ELDERS of the church to PRAY OVER THEM and ANOINT THEM WITH OIL in the name of the Lord.~~~~~

15 [[[[[And the PRAYER offered in faith will make the sick person well;]]]]] the Lord will RAISE them up.***If they have sinned, they will be forgiven.***

16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and PRAY for each other so that you may be healed.[[[[[The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.]]]]]

THE PRAYER OF A RIGHTEOUS PERSON IS POWERFUL AND EFFECTIVE.

Elders....it doesn't say apostles....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#409197 Dec 13, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
See from these verses:
Mark 9:1
9 And he said to them,“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before ***they ~~~SEE~~~ that the kingdom of God has come with POWER.”***
Acts 2:33
33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and ~~~has poured out what you now see and hear.~~~
SEE and HEAR....
These purposes, as the promise, pertained exclusively to the apostles.

~~~

QUESTION

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