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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#409343 Dec 13, 2012
marge wrote:
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No, I don't understand how you can stand with him when he's against all of us?
Marge,please understand this.

I made things right with Preston.

I had already made peace with others on this forum a few years ago.

Marge,I do not have to argue on this forum.

There are no rules that state that I have to say anything to anyone.

I have been here for quite sometime and have gotten to know a lot of people.

I love everyone Marge,yes even you, who seems to think that I should not let go of the past.

I refuse to let anyone steal my joy.

I refuse to fuss with anyone again.
God know's my heart.

Just let it go Marge.

Philippians 4:7

7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

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#409344 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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Wrong. Even the demons believe in Jesus.
you are correct. it takes more than just beleiving in Him, you have to follow him.

the fact than marge is trying to cause trouble between karen and I is proof that she isnt following Jesus,

and then to be so bold as to question Karen why she isnt standing with some of her friends is rediculous.

karen will stand for what is right and will voice her opinion and isnt afraid to either.

I can easily testify to that.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#409345 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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Wrong. Even the demons believe in Jesus.
I said know.

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#409346 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>NO SHE DIDN'T NEED ANYTHING. YOU NEED TO CONDEMN AND ACCUSE OTHERS BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN INSECURITIES. aND BECAUSE YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER. HE WAS A LIAR AND AN ACCUSER FROM THE BEGINNING.
WRONG.

she said that she hadnt seen anything like what I said about your friends and so I showed her as this is a public forum and I dont need your approval, nor any authority from you since you have none.like I said, you are a filthy pervert.

but again. this question to you.

and how do you know that oddjg isnt here anymore?
were you trolling as him?

and are you Bob too?I wouldnt put anything past you.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#409347 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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So His grace causes you to only feed starving Christians and house homeless Christians, to hell with the hungry and homeless non-Christians ?
No, but I was talking about what the verses said, they said that, read it again.

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#409348 Dec 13, 2012
marge wrote:
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No, I don't understand how you can stand with him when he's against all of us?
And Marge,

The peace I made with Preston was between us.

That had nothing to do with anyone else.

It was something I felt that the Lord wanted me to do.

I don't answer for anyone one but myself.

Please leave me out of your fussing.

Have a good night Marge.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#409349 Dec 13, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
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Marge,please understand this.
I made things right with Preston.
I had already made peace with others on this forum a few years ago.
Marge,I do not have to argue on this forum.
There are no rules that state that I have to say anything to anyone.
I have been here for quite sometime and have gotten to know a lot of people.
I love everyone Marge,yes even you, who seems to think that I should not let go of the past.
I refuse to let anyone steal my joy.
I refuse to fuss with anyone again.
God know's my heart.
Just let it go Marge.
Philippians 4:7
7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
I warned you.

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#409350 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN
Sikeston, MO
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<quoted text>no, topix allows cussing, at least on other forums, so I would suspect they would on this forum also.oddjg wrote this to karen. on june 27.
OldJG wrote:
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Really? You are the best at making up stories about everyone and everything. If a lie was a penny you would be a multi-millionaire. You know when you hid behind another name like a little bxxxx.
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and that wasnt all that he said. as I have said many times, 4bdn issued John a perverted invitation(and If I used the word as to what he is, topix would censor that), and not only did I call him on it but Karen did also.but some of your friends stayed on the sidelines and were afraid to say anything to him

So lets all go back a year ago and see if we can find something to attack. That is all you are about PERCY. You are really pathetic.{[

Old JG is not even here any more}}}

an yet you continue to attack and condemn. To what avail? Does that make you feel like less of a worm?

SO TELL US HOW YOU KNOW THAT ODDJG IS GONE, ONLY HE WOULD KNOW IF HE WAS GONE SO THAT COULD EASILY BE THAT YOU WERE USING HIS NICK AND TROLLING HIM, AND THERE IS NOT REALLY A ODDJG BUT IT WAS AND IS YOU.

AS MIKE SAYS.: BUSTED!!!!

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#409351 Dec 13, 2012
marge wrote:
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I warned you.
Check them shooting stars out Marge,they are really cool.

Check out all the beauty that God provided us to enjoy while we are on this earth.

The stars look like diamonds in the sky.
Breathtaking tonight here in East Tennessee.

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#409352 Dec 13, 2012
marge wrote:
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I warned you.
you just dont get it, do you marge.
weeks ago, chuck and I agreed not to argue OSAS with each other. neither of us have broken that agreement.

disciple and myself agreed to forgive and forget, you cant understand that can you. he and I were as close as Karen and i were at one time. good times are hard to forget, sometimes so are bad times but God can heal those bad times, and will if you want Him too.

karen and I wanted to and we have.

and unlike you, we didnt break our agreement within 24 hours.

and i can tell you and eveyone else, I missed that friendship that we shared with each other.
I am going to bed, why dont you think about what she and I have said to you and quit acting so childish.

you are no longer on a gradeschool playground so quit acting like it. GROW UP>!!!
4GVN

Saint Louis, MO

#409353 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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Wrong. Marge, a fellow OSASer, says that Jesus was talking to Christians. That is true. Yet Jesus says even though they said "Lord, Lord" ,(only people of faith say that right?), they would suffer eternally if they didn't perform works of mercy.
You keep saying faith alone. Jesus and St. James say NOT faith alone.
James 2:14- What does it profit if a man (says) he has faith... So it is a man that 'claims' to have faith. But he has not works, can faith save him? What faith is he asking about? ANNSWER; a proclaimed faith that bears no evidence. Can 'this faith' save him? No. Do faith that does not produce works is dead. Verse 18 goes on to tell us that we can not show(witness) faith. We can only witness the results of true faith. True saving faith produces a change in us and causes us to want to do the works of He who saved us. I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT IT IS JUST A MATTER OF SAYING SOME WORDS, You have tryed to tie that to me. It is a heart felt sincere surrender, OBVIOUSLY. Verse 23 states clearly that ABRAHAM 'believed' and it was IMPUTED onto him for righteousness. As yo can see much of this passage is dealing with how we are to show forth our faith to MEN, not to God who knows our hearts. And the fact is Anthony, that you are taking one of the most contriversial books of the N.T. to try to build a doctrine upon to the exclusion of hundreds of quotes in other books. BOTTOM LINE: TRUE saving faith PRODUCES works in the life of a Christian. If the professed conversion produces no evidence the profesion would be very suspect. But even then, only God can know the heart of the individual.
Loren Eberly

Mount Gilead, OH

#409354 Dec 13, 2012
Wal-Mart Stockholders Profit from Using Nonunion workers:

Wal-Mart Stockholders, OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) profit from marketing more stock dividends (money) quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

This is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding Wal-Mart and every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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#409355 Dec 13, 2012
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. (John 14:27 KJV)
4GVN

Saint Louis, MO

#409356 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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I hope you don't use the term "saving faith" cause it ain't in the bible.
You keep saying "should". What if a person is morally upright, rarely sinning, does all the things you think a Christian should do, but fails to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, etc. What do you say to someone who lives their whole life providing this evidence you refer to and then falls into sin? What if the evidence isn't to your satisfaction?
No. St. James clearly says works are necessary, faith alone is not enough.
Good grief, Anthony. When is the blood of Jesus applied to our hearts? When are we saved? When does the New birth occur? When does Jesus come into our hearts? When does the scripture say we HAVE eternal life? When are we 'sealed unto the day of redemption'? Shall I go on?
truth

Perth, Australia

#409357 Dec 13, 2012
sometimes people think you need work fisical job..
mind..fore one moment you can have..much more then you working entire life as fisical job..
yes
to be crazy and lazy..art he art every heart..
perfect describe people ..when they past away..many have lots of money after..

pattern of crazy and lazy innovation..which nobody understood or take concern can be..much more worthy then one hard worker do for entire life..

what bible say about that..

''talent..gifted''
According bible..they worthy much more 1000 times then anyone who work hard simple job entire life.

Everything in vain from man..ecclesiastic ..vanity vanity vanity..

what a crazy ideology what a naive diploma..one card can sweep off every formula from your powerful innovation..
one pure mind..even when others try ruin life of that life..still god reserve..where ..in heart as well in your subconsciousness..by

''work and posses on the end everything ruin and destroy''

Jesus Christ words is perfect.
''Did you know what your Master prepare?''
''Your God is pure''
''Don't lose yourself because of me''.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#409358 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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Wrong. Even the demons believe in Jesus.
James was talking to people who think like Protestants do. Luther misunderstood James and therefore called it an epistle of straw, because it did not fit. The devils believe but they do not do good works for which we are ordained. You people seem to think people automatically become sinless and start producing good works. Then when they sin you say, "Well they werent really saved. They were weak. NO! James says to call upon the presbyter and your sins will be forgiven. What!? A saved person still sinned? Gasp Call upon a man..Double Gasp! For the prayers of the righteous man are heard.

Paul gives a man over to Satan to save him, but you say he was never really saved.

James 2: 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

James is very clear here. It is by your actions and NOT by faith alone. You must cooperate with Gods Grace. You think the good works mechanism just starts flowing. James is addressing the people who are not doing anything to grow in grace and let God work through them. The Catholic position is not that we can do works alone or of ourselves to merit salvation. That was the way of the law. That is what Paul was talking about. Works of the LAW! These are the works of the individual in which the law judges. Works of faith, Charity, hope, and love these are in accordance with his will.

If you think there are no Protestants running around running around doing whatever feels good while telling people they are saved for sure then think again. The autogoodworks button must have a malfunction.

James says:

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(Do you see?) Not by Faith Alone

22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?(Do you see?) Faith and works are not seperated. I even used the KJV version.

We are saved by Grace through Faith. Faith and good works work together to make perfect. Not works of the law. Not works which you boast that you did to earn your salvation. Not works that you are bound to in an unforgiving system with no room for error. The law is a rigid unforgiving system. Works that sanctify and proclaim Christ is in you. A perserverence to the end, a continual repentance, a desire to do his will not yours. Grace that grows within you. It has never been the Catholic position that we can earn our way to salvation through good works alone. That is what you say it is. Luther never understood the Catholic Position. The council of Trent made it very clear that works of ourselves has never been the teaching. Luther discovered a Catholic teaching which he misunderstood and you may never understand either. He rejected James and rejected the teaching from the church from the very beginning.

cont.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#409359 Dec 13, 2012
Faith is done in action of thought and free will. It is necessary but it isnt the only thing. Again the devils have faith, but they excercise their free will to choose another way. Luther did not understand James point which he used Abraham as an example. James says, "Cant you see?" Faith and action makes perfect.

Faith is the the mustard seed and necessary for a beginning. Hope brings a search for greater understanding and growth. Love is the fruits by which people will know you. All Glory and honor goes to God not the man who says see what I did while mocking God. The man who says I am better and do more than those Christians. That person is not operating in Grace but will be judged by the law for he is not under the Grace which Christ offered in his sacrifice. However to let Christ live and work in you then you must accept his gift of Grace in Faith and do good works in his name. The World will hate you for it hated him first. We are one in Christ who comes to us in faith, and offers us hope and works through us with works of love. You can supress the spirit, you can turn away, you can do nothing and say faith was all that you needed and ignore the words of James and misunderstand what Paul said just as Luther did and you now do. Or you can cooperate with God and grow or you can be a seed planted in stony ground never taking root, shallow roots or grow in rich soil. The choice is yours.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#409360 Dec 13, 2012
who="Anthony MN"
So His grace causes you to only feed starving Christians and house homeless Christians, to hell with the hungry and homeless non-Christians ?

*********
Jesus didn't say 'feed only Christians'. His image is on every man.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

KayMarie

P.S. Demons DO believe/KNOW that God IS...and they tremble, because they know that He is just.

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#409361 Dec 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
So His grace causes you to only feed starving Christians and house homeless Christians, to hell with the hungry and homeless non-Christians ?
*********
Jesus didn't say 'feed only Christians'. His image is on every man.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
KayMarie
P.S. Demons DO believe/KNOW that God IS...and they tremble, because they know that He is just.
The devil and his demons know their time is short.
Loren Eberly

Mount Gilead, OH

#409362 Dec 13, 2012
Ryan Is Needed In Congress and Governor’s Office:

We The Government of this Representative Republic need Ryan in Congress and Governor Office. To bring USA into compliance with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

And hold every worker, consumer, and taxpayer accountable; to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider; Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

This enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President and Congress complying with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands; enables President and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget.

President and Congress holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions. Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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