You are right. The rcc and You at least(not so sure about Rob) do say that. The scriptures do not.<quoted text>
Let's put this little issue to rest. The Catholic Church, Fr. Dye and I say that baptism IS salvific. We say Jesus commanded baptism for salvation. We also say that WE DON'T KNOW for sure if unbaptized babies will go to heaven because the bible is silent on it.
If Rob believed that they were indeed salvific, why did he say that it was 'probably unnecessary'? Salvific, but probably unnecessary?