Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409055 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Then why do you believe that it is Jesus' sacrife PLUS works. Why is it Jesus (PLUS) anything?
You ARE NOT LISTENING.(and you think protestants don't understand what catholics believe) sigh.....
I have said MANY TIMES that there should be an outward evidence of the inward change. So you analogy is totally without merit.
BUT, it is just that. EVIDENCE. It is not in any way a part of attaining ones salvation.
It is NOT JESUS plus anything. It is JESUS PAID IT ALL. And ALL that He desires is for us to COME TO HIM in total honesty to Recieve HIM a our Lord and Saviour and our Salvation.
"Then why do you believe that it is Jesus' sacrife PLUS works. Why is it Jesus (PLUS) anything?" know all that stuff Jesus said we should do? I suppose I could say "thanks Jesus, you did it all, I don't have to do anything you said because I know you were just kidding and all you really wanted was for us to acknowledge that you saved us."

Is that what you mean by 'receive HIM'?

Perth, Australia

#409056 Dec 13, 2012
remember everything will be fall..angels as well demons..

Why is like that?

Perth, Australia

#409057 Dec 13, 2012
go back where thousand thousand thousand years exist about what?
Are you pro-life

go back where life exist as well start..

Perth, Australia

#409058 Dec 13, 2012
Jesus words is perfect.
remember his words


Please describe words ''infinite'' much is that?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409059 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text> lol. No you have a problem with St James, because you do not understand the context it was written in. Perhaps if you would actually READ it, or at least the first couple of chapters and see what the context is.

Ok mister bible expert. Please explain the 'context' of the following verses;

20 But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Do you see that faith did cooperate with his works and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled, saying: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him to justice, and he was called the friend of God. 24 Do you see that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only?


Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#409060 Dec 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know any 79 year old 'ladies' that spend their time spreading dirt about people on a public forum.
Jud 1:3 Dearly beloved, taking all care to write unto you concerning your common salvation,

I was under a necessity to write unto you: to beseech you to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints.

Is your tirade against my wife .."contending for the faith?"..or is it a personal vendetta against an individual...

What she has posted is about an imperfect earthly organization...
that is by no means representing Jesus Christ, before the world
in its teachings, actions, or God's holiness.

Why are you venting your hatred toward her? and acting out your own personal inquisition ... here before the witnesses in this forum.

Just what is your goal...Would you not like to destroy her, if it were within your power?

1Pe_4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or a railer or coveter of other men's things.

1Jn_3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer. And you know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in himself.

Perth, Australia

#409061 Dec 13, 2012
Did Abraham need blessing?
According whom?!
Someone who is bless.
act 3;25

Perth, Australia

#409062 Dec 13, 2012
I died long time ago?
Who save me and give life again?

''its written''
Who calculate..did Jesus know about that?
yes yes yes yes

Since: Dec 11

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#409063 Dec 13, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone who says that there is no god, says so because the chance that there is one, is very thin. But to say that the christian god, as described in the bible, doesn't exist, is easy. The bible proves that god does not exist.
If there is a god, he is not written about in any book that I know of.
With the universe being 13.75 billion years old and the Earth being only 4.5, that leaves a lot of time for another civilizations to evolve. Look how far we have come in the last 150 years. From horse and buggy to leaving our solar system.
I respect your right to believe as you wish, stay in the Iron Age as long as you like, just keep your beliefs where they belong.
They do not belong on public property, unless all groups can share the property.
They do not belong in our laws; such as Blue Laws. I know that we have a few in common; civilized people have had those few laws on their books long before your god spoke them to moses from a burn bush.
They do not belong in public schools to be taken as fact. The Earth is not 6 to 10,000 years old. A magical man did not poof everything into existence. There are no taking serpents or donkeys. There is no garden of eden that is guarded by some angels. So on and so forth.
{When I say that, I mean that there is no evidence for it and therefore should not be taken seriously by public educators.}
No one should say that there is definitely no god, or unicorns, or Santa, but it is right to say there is no evidence for any of these creatures, and there is no repeatable experiments, which can be preformed concerning these creatures. If you contend that any of these are true, then it is up to you to prove it. It is that simple.
I agree that there is no empirical evidence for the existence of God. This indeed is true.No problem.I am also cool protexting your rights to not be intruded upon by my beliefs.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#409064 Dec 13, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
You can neither prove or disprove the existence of a god or gods.
That's why they call it faith.
a deist
Yes indeedee, Cap.

Perth, Australia

#409065 Dec 13, 2012
your law is not my law..
Everything belong to Creator.. Earth and under Earth and upon Earth..
Who stolen what?
Please explain!!!
First commandments is be productive as well free garden as well free everything within..Are you for sure its not be like that?

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#409066 Dec 13, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Brad Pitt and Angelina Joli are really a beautiful couple,I thought maybe they are your children.LOL.
They deny it. Our rift was all over a Thanksgiving argument about a football game.LOL

Perth, Australia

#409067 Dec 13, 2012
Look Lilly on field.
Look birds and animals on field,who feed them..Did they stolen something?
How much money they need give for you?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409068 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Oh goodie, more spam. I will respond to the first two.
Mat.7:18 You are reading more into the verse than what is there. There is no scriptural basis for going beyound what is written.
Mat. 7:21 is a reference to the judgement day. The fact is that meny will try in vain when they stand before the Judge to change thier status.'On the last day...' and on and on we could go with this kind of th;inking.
They said "Lord, Lord...", but didn't DO the will of the Father. That means simply professing faith and excluding good works isn't enough.

Sudbury, Canada

#409069 Dec 13, 2012
The Circle Of The Wise

December 13, 2012— byDavid H. Roper

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Read: 1 John 2:12–17

I write to you, fathers, because you have known Him who is from the beginning.—1 John 2:13

Bible in a Year:

I used to serve on the elder board of a church in California. One elder, Bob Smith, who was older than most of us, frequently called us back to the Word of God for guidance.

On one occasion we were discussing a leadership shortage in the church and had spent an hour or more working through various solutions. Bob was silent throughout the discussion. Finally, he said quietly,“Gentlemen, we’ve forgotten Jesus’ solution to our leadership issue. Before we do anything, we must first ‘ask the Lord of the harvest ... to send out workers’”(Luke 10:2 niv). We were humbled, and spent the rest of our time praying that God would raise up workers and send them into the field.

C. S. Lewis said,“The next best thing to being wise oneself is to live in a circle of those who are.” Proverbs 1:5 says,“A man of understanding will attain wise counsel.” Bob’s comment is just one example of the value of wise men and women who “have known Him who is from the beginning”(1 John 2:13-14) and whose minds are saturated with the Word of God.

Let’s take to heart the counsel of those who have lived in the Lord’s presence and are mature in His wisdom. They are God’s gift to us and our churches.
The older saints who trust God’s WordHave trod the paths that we now walk;They’ve fought the battles we now fight—Their wisdom teaches truth and right.—Branon
That one is truly wise who gains wisdom from the experience of others.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409070 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>He also said that baptizing infants was probably ot necessary. Were you baptized as an infant?
Let's put this little issue to rest. The Catholic Church, Fr. Dye and I say that baptism IS salvific. We say Jesus commanded baptism for salvation. We also say that WE DON'T KNOW for sure if unbaptized babies will go to heaven because the bible is silent on it.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409071 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>That is not true. You really do care.
No, I really don't. I don't respond to the trolls who paste garbage about Catholics or the Catholic Church. I know their agenda. They don't pretend to be charitable Christians. Kay does.

Rockford, IL

#409072 Dec 13, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>well I know that I am Saved, and I know that any person who follows the likes of ellen white isnt, but that is who 4bdn has buddied up with to go against me.
but dont you worry, they got you going to hell with the rest of all catholics.
Who elected you head of the Narrowing Field?I know a few 7th Day Adventists,and none of them are bound for hell,and you and I know there are many Catholics in heaven and going there as well.I don't think the Wesleyan,or Nazarenes,Church of God(Anderson,Indiana),Free Methodists,or whatever holiness church you belong to are the only ones that are bound for heaven.You should know better than to judge by affiliation.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#409073 Dec 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>What you don't seem to be able to understand is that we(at least some of us) do understand your teaching. It is not that we don't understand what you are taught. It is that we don't agree with some of those teachings.
I don't think so. Your typical response is to either ignore or belittle our proofs. You get angry and nasty when your proven to be mistaken about something. You strike me as they kind of person who would rather yell over people or plug your ears instead of engaging in a constructive conversation. That kind of response is typical of someone who has doubts and responds emotionally rather than logically.

Hamilton, Canada

#409074 Dec 13, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I agree that there is no empirical evidence for the existence of God. This indeed is true.No problem.I am also cool protexting your rights to not be intruded upon by my beliefs.
Brad! I mean Herme.....says..

.........I agree that there is no empirical evidence for the existence of God.

Michael says......If you honestly believe their is no empirical evidence for the existance of God, then why not explore your reasoning for saying so, instead of you blindly believing their is a God?

If you have no evidence in what you believe, then why do you believe it? Because of Family tradition?

Is that a good reason? I wouldn't think so.

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