Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409000 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I have done a lot of research, far more than the average christian, and I come up this; I am 99.9999% sure that there is no god.
There is hysterical evidence of many, but no real evidence of a god.
Well tbs, the scriptures do say that 'there is no God...'
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409001 Dec 12, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
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Cowboy. I have posted a pic of myself and Seraphima
Well, at least you are not scaring people like PERCY. lol
guest

United States

#409002 Dec 12, 2012
Clay wrote:
Akiba.

We know from the Dead Sea Scrolls, that at least one Jewish community, regarded the 7 books as scripture.
We know that the official Jewish canon did not. Why? Because Christians were using those 7 books as scripture. The Jews wanted to distance themselves from the Christian community.
!
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text> And how do we know that? You give no evidence. Just your opinion. You are wasting my time.
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Catholics give no evidence of anything. Just opinion (of the Pope).
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They go against the word of God on countless occasions and believe they have the right to do so - because Jesus *supposedly* handed everything over to Peter? But they forget that the church that was delivered to the first century Apostles is FAAAAAR different than what the Catholic Church is today. It has *become different* over the centuries by denying the Word of God as the Truth. They call themselves and all their iterations over two millennia the True Church. They believe they can put words in Jesus mouth and that *it is so*. There is nothing FURTHER from the truth than this.
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How anyone in their right mind can believe that it is O.K. for a Pope to SANCTION TORTURE and remain Christian, totally defies logic.
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At least Pagan religions acknowledge their Pagan origins.
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By directly going against and contradicting the Bible, the Catholic Church, in essence,*rewrites* The Bible and they do so to satisfy the whims of the current reigning Pope. We know this to be fact - simply for the numerous times Popes have overturned the ruling of and earlier Pope.
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They want their cake, and evil, too. Sanction Torture? who does that? Certainly NOT the followers of Christ.
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truth

Perth, Australia

#409003 Dec 12, 2012
so horrible
you can't killed 7 billion people don't you..
as well you did not know what is in mind as well heart of that people..
i fill sorry for you if you think..
alive church..is alive within..where???
believers not care about top people..not even think
as big people think..no
simple they think about themself with all rights which creator created ..its within them..
does meter how much misery we look..is that your priority think just like that..no ..i know you did not know all secrets..as well i don't liked talk until i recover from my natural process not to be misery any more..simple yes..i will be free very soon.. after new year..
i am going do my project in my country..my home with my people..so simple..no money don't need not at all..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyy
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409004 Dec 12, 2012
Clay wrote:
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Books. I love to read and learn. I'm a history nut.
But not all theology. My first love is American History.
Anyway, it comes down to who is the author and why. At least, that's my experience.
The Internet is always the best start.
Are you honestly examining the claims of both camps? Really considering what each side has to say?
marge

Ames, IA

#409005 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>What you don't seem to be able to understand is that we(at least some of us) do understand your teaching. It is not that we don't understand what you are taught. It is that we don't agree with some of those teachings.
They don't have the True Gospel 4GVN, waste of time going beyond that with them imo. I'm sure we all agreed many times already they can't discipher the Word either. They have to get saved first. Love you brother, blessings to you and yours.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409006 Dec 12, 2012
hojo wrote:
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Only against "bible only" anti-catholic heretics, such as you 4GVN, who deceives yourself as you attempt to deceive others.
For you, "name calling" is the ONLY "sure fire thing" that you can rely upon as you are "desperately" trying to keep your "bible only boat" from sinking, deeper, than it already has!!!!
Well you must be winning the debate because you have certainly mastered the name calling. Good-bye HOHO. lol
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409007 Dec 12, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow...
Karen I must tell you what he said about you was a hundred times worse than me using medical marijuana, you be careful!
Yep, Old "preacher' PERCY just sent another one to hell.
marge

Ames, IA

#409008 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>It is a foolish and wrong analysis to believe that the Jewish people 'planned' to deny the Messiah as you are implying. The Jews simply did not understand that there are TWO advents of the Mesiah foretold in the scriptures. The Jews were looking for the second and not the first. They want conquering King to deliver them from bondage and oppression. They were not looking for a LAMB but a LION. They were not looking for a 'suffering Saviour'. Your reasoning is predjudicial and flawed.
Not to mention devout Jews from EVERY nation were Saved Acts 2, And the NT was penned mostly by Jews ETC etc...

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#409009 Dec 12, 2012
Makesure100 wrote:
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I don't have to prove a thing. It's up to you freakshow to prove god doesn't exsist.....his creation speaks for itself. Yet humans live only 80 years if lucky. How small, mere the knowledge gained.
I am a believer Orthodox. I was showing how weak the atheists argumenty are

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#409010 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>WOW, You have the 'original Old Testament'. What kind of meds are you on Hermi? lol
4yn I read this on several sites concerning the Dead Sea Scrolls.Scholars changed their original declaration that the asoretc was the oldest to the Septuagent mirrored an older ld Testament. I posted the site.I am on 800 milligrams Viagra LOL
Pad

Rockford, IL

#409011 Dec 12, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>A handsome couple. I enjoyed the picture. I would post a pic of Sera and myself but she is wanted by law enforcement authorities in 5 states.
Brad Pitt and Angelina Joli are really a beautiful couple,I thought maybe they are your children.LOL.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#409012 Dec 12, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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Hi Pad good friend
I am in good health....And I am glad there are challenges....If I thought everything was great, then, there must be something wrong....lol....
I am glad you have the Deuterocanonicals around....I was actually reading through I Maccabees last night....
Also, a favorite of mine is the Book of Wisdom, during this last week, I have been going through it. Of course daily reading/prayer of about 10-12 Psalms, and various N.T., and O.T. books....At the present I am in Isaiah....
I am very fortunate to have the time to do so....
I am not too much connected to the modern news. I filtered it out of my life about 4-5 years ago. At most I spend 2 minutes a day on the news, with the internet on MyYahoo, and Drudgereport.
I am fortunate in LA, we have one of the most religous states in the U.S. It is a very charity oriented state, and family ties are very, very strong.
Today, I went to a friends farm who invites everyone to come and pick mustard greens and turnips....I just got back from there with two bags....He just loves to plant and have people come and pick....I am so thankful to be where I am.
Thank you for your response.That is good news about your home state.I hope someday we can move from here,but it does not look like it is ever going to happen.

Grass is not always greener somewhere else,but people find out that they are better off iin one new found place.

Thank God for good friends.And I also like Sirach and the Book of Wisdom.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#409013 Dec 13, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Epistemology- Study of knowledge, incl how we know something
A:I know there is no God.
How do you know this
A Its not up to me to prove. You said God exists. Its up to you to prove it.
You are stating that you know something. You know there is no God. How do you know it?
We do not claim that reason or science is the way we know God.We base our belief on faith.
A:I and noone else has ever seen God
If this is true have you seen every planet or star. Therefore any planet or star you have not seen does not exist.
The Bible says to beat your slave.
Anyone who says that there is no god, says so because the chance that there is one, is very thin. But to say that the christian god, as described in the bible, doesn't exist, is easy. The bible proves that god does not exist.

If there is a god, he is not written about in any book that I know of.

With the universe being 13.75 billion years old and the Earth being only 4.5, that leaves a lot of time for another civilizations to evolve. Look how far we have come in the last 150 years. From horse and buggy to leaving our solar system.

I respect your right to believe as you wish, stay in the Iron Age as long as you like, just keep your beliefs where they belong.

They do not belong on public property, unless all groups can share the property.

They do not belong in our laws; such as Blue Laws. I know that we have a few in common; civilized people have had those few laws on their books long before your god spoke them to moses from a burn bush.

They do not belong in public schools to be taken as fact. The Earth is not 6 to 10,000 years old. A magical man did not poof everything into existence. There are no taking serpents or donkeys. There is no garden of eden that is guarded by some angels. So on and so forth.

{When I say that, I mean that there is no evidence for it and therefore should not be taken seriously by public educators.}

No one should say that there is definitely no god, or unicorns, or Santa, but it is right to say there is no evidence for any of these creatures, and there is no repeatable experiments, which can be preformed concerning these creatures. If you contend that any of these are true, then it is up to you to prove it. It is that simple.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#409014 Dec 13, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
Oh! I got it now! LOL! Sorry. It could happen to anyone! After all, he did reply to you and cowboy has been accused of changing his name a few times. Maybe I should change mine too. So many people claiming to be christians do it so often that I cannot keep up with who is who.
So, humans make mistakes and should be forgiven. Interesting. Odd how only christians believe that they should be forgiven, but they have the toughest time forgiving others. I wonder if jesus ever talked about noticing the log in your own eye before bitching about the speck in someone else's eye.
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you so mean?
You are right! Can you forgive me?

One small thing. I reread it a few times and I cannot find where I was so mean! Could you be so kind and help a poor sinner out? Show me what was so mean!

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#409015 Dec 13, 2012
You expect this of Catholicsm

The priests spend too much time as paedophiles

Did Christ exist? Not a shred of proof

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#409016 Dec 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
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Based on what you just said... You're closer to Catholicism than you realize.
And Pluto is closer to us than Alpha Centauri, what's your point?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#409017 Dec 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
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It should be said Black Sheep, that the Catholic Church will Acknowledge that God it a mystery.
Salvation is a mystery.
The Holy Eucharist is a mystery.
We don't have all the answers. In fact, no Christian should claim they do.
One thing I admire about the Catholic Church is how they embrace science. They view science as a great tool to look into the window of God.
That is exactly what Galileo Galilei said!

Hell, pope john paul II came right out and claimed that evolution is true! It only took the catholic 130 years to come around! That is much faster than it took them to admit that the Earth is not at the center of the universe!

One might say that the catholics are on the cutting edge of science!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#409018 Dec 13, 2012
Mick Scott wrote:
You expect this of Catholicsm
The priests spend too much time as paedophiles
Did Christ exist? Not a shred of proof
No what a minute! There is a 13th century shroud with the likeness of a 10th century roman on it! Isn't that proof enough for you?

There is an ossuary with the fake inscription on it!

There is a family tomb with all the names of jesus' family on the ossuaries. There is even one for jesus! One slighting odd fact, an ossuary was for the bones of the deceased. The body would lay in the tomb for a year, then the family would go in and collect the bones and put them in a special bone box. If jesus rose and there was no body, who made the ossuary for nothing? Oh well, you just have to have faith!
Clay

Chicago, IL

#409019 Dec 13, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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That is exactly what Galileo Galilei said!
Hell, pope john paul II came right out and claimed that evolution is true! It only took the catholic 130 years to come around! That is much faster than it took them to admit that the Earth is not at the center of the universe!
One might say that the catholics are on the cutting edge of science!
The Church probably accepted some aspects of Evolution a hundred yrs ago. Why not?
True, they didn't publicly state it until recently, but that doesn't mean previous Popes and Bishops didn't accept it.

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