Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#408993 Dec 12, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>well I know that I am Saved, and I know that any person who follows the likes of ellen white isnt, but that is who 4bdn has buddied up with to go against me.
but dont you worry, they got you going to hell with the rest of all catholics.
Hey PERCY, you are the one who called them cultists. Have you changed your mind? lol
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#408994 Dec 12, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Historical research reveals five significant ways in which the Masoretic Text is different from the original Old Testament:
WOW, You have the 'original Old Testament'. What kind of meds are you on Hermi? lol
marge

Ames, IA

#408995 Dec 12, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I may be ugly on the outside,
but I know that you are ugly on the inside.
AND WHAT IS FUNNY, IS THAT MY LOOKS ONLY BOTHERS YOU, LTM AND 4BDN.
and I only gotta live with this mug of mine for a few more years at best, and I will get a new Glorifed body,
YOU HOWEVER WILL LIVE WITH YOUR BLACK SOUL IN HELL FOREVER.
Wow...

Karen I must tell you what he said about you was a hundred times worse than me using medical marijuana, you be careful!
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#408996 Dec 12, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>

So why didn't they include the Deterocanonicals? For the same reason they did not put in the N.T.
They point to Jesus, as the Messiah in a "strong" way.
And of course that includes strong support of Catholic teachings....So Luther wants his cake and eats it too....He rejected("ate") the Deuterocanonicals that point to Jesus, to "have" his "religion"....
It is a foolish and wrong analysis to believe that the Jewish people 'planned' to deny the Messiah as you are implying. The Jews simply did not understand that there are TWO advents of the Mesiah foretold in the scriptures. The Jews were looking for the second and not the first. They want conquering King to deliver them from bondage and oppression. They were not looking for a LAMB but a LION. They were not looking for a 'suffering Saviour'. Your reasoning is predjudicial and flawed.
marge

Ames, IA

#408997 Dec 12, 2012
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you so mean?
Hey Seri, I hope things are getting back to normal.

And why do you judge outside the church when we have a real meanie(Preston) right here saying he is part of the True Church?

or confess like Clay did, that you don't know who is a True Christian.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#408998 Dec 12, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, we certainly weren't talking about idiot Catholic college staff supporting the Marxist president. Kay likes to throw out as much dirt on bad Catholics as she can when she has no response to the challenges posited by the Catholics here.
And I'm here to educate you protestants who are ignorant of Catholic teaching . Why are you here?
What you don't seem to be able to understand is that we(at least some of us) do understand your teaching. It is not that we don't understand what you are taught. It is that we don't agree with some of those teachings.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#408999 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Hey PERCY, you are the one who called them cultists. Have you changed your mind? lol
Cowboy, why would you think all Catholics will go to hell? I don't believe many of their teachings, but if they honestly do and they think they're doing the right things why would God punish them? A person is only committing a sin if they know it's wrong and they do it anyway, and with their full consent. Same with almost any religion, unless of course it involves child abuse or equivalent. When I was in about 4th grade, a little girl sitting next to me told me that being Catholic was "the only sure way to heaven". I had not yet converted to the RC church, but I pretty much believed that. I surely don't now.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409000 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
I have done a lot of research, far more than the average christian, and I come up this; I am 99.9999% sure that there is no god.
There is hysterical evidence of many, but no real evidence of a god.
Well tbs, the scriptures do say that 'there is no God...'
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409001 Dec 12, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>----
Cowboy. I have posted a pic of myself and Seraphima
Well, at least you are not scaring people like PERCY. lol
guest

United States

#409002 Dec 12, 2012
Clay wrote:
Akiba.

We know from the Dead Sea Scrolls, that at least one Jewish community, regarded the 7 books as scripture.
We know that the official Jewish canon did not. Why? Because Christians were using those 7 books as scripture. The Jews wanted to distance themselves from the Christian community.
!
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text> And how do we know that? You give no evidence. Just your opinion. You are wasting my time.
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Catholics give no evidence of anything. Just opinion (of the Pope).
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They go against the word of God on countless occasions and believe they have the right to do so - because Jesus *supposedly* handed everything over to Peter? But they forget that the church that was delivered to the first century Apostles is FAAAAAR different than what the Catholic Church is today. It has *become different* over the centuries by denying the Word of God as the Truth. They call themselves and all their iterations over two millennia the True Church. They believe they can put words in Jesus mouth and that *it is so*. There is nothing FURTHER from the truth than this.
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How anyone in their right mind can believe that it is O.K. for a Pope to SANCTION TORTURE and remain Christian, totally defies logic.
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At least Pagan religions acknowledge their Pagan origins.
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By directly going against and contradicting the Bible, the Catholic Church, in essence,*rewrites* The Bible and they do so to satisfy the whims of the current reigning Pope. We know this to be fact - simply for the numerous times Popes have overturned the ruling of and earlier Pope.
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They want their cake, and evil, too. Sanction Torture? who does that? Certainly NOT the followers of Christ.
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truth

Perth, Australia

#409003 Dec 12, 2012
so horrible
you can't killed 7 billion people don't you..
as well you did not know what is in mind as well heart of that people..
i fill sorry for you if you think..
alive church..is alive within..where???
believers not care about top people..not even think
as big people think..no
simple they think about themself with all rights which creator created ..its within them..
does meter how much misery we look..is that your priority think just like that..no ..i know you did not know all secrets..as well i don't liked talk until i recover from my natural process not to be misery any more..simple yes..i will be free very soon.. after new year..
i am going do my project in my country..my home with my people..so simple..no money don't need not at all..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyy
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409004 Dec 12, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Books. I love to read and learn. I'm a history nut.
But not all theology. My first love is American History.
Anyway, it comes down to who is the author and why. At least, that's my experience.
The Internet is always the best start.
Are you honestly examining the claims of both camps? Really considering what each side has to say?
marge

Ames, IA

#409005 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>What you don't seem to be able to understand is that we(at least some of us) do understand your teaching. It is not that we don't understand what you are taught. It is that we don't agree with some of those teachings.
They don't have the True Gospel 4GVN, waste of time going beyond that with them imo. I'm sure we all agreed many times already they can't discipher the Word either. They have to get saved first. Love you brother, blessings to you and yours.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409006 Dec 12, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Only against "bible only" anti-catholic heretics, such as you 4GVN, who deceives yourself as you attempt to deceive others.
For you, "name calling" is the ONLY "sure fire thing" that you can rely upon as you are "desperately" trying to keep your "bible only boat" from sinking, deeper, than it already has!!!!
Well you must be winning the debate because you have certainly mastered the name calling. Good-bye HOHO. lol
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#409007 Dec 12, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow...
Karen I must tell you what he said about you was a hundred times worse than me using medical marijuana, you be careful!
Yep, Old "preacher' PERCY just sent another one to hell.
marge

Ames, IA

#409008 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>It is a foolish and wrong analysis to believe that the Jewish people 'planned' to deny the Messiah as you are implying. The Jews simply did not understand that there are TWO advents of the Mesiah foretold in the scriptures. The Jews were looking for the second and not the first. They want conquering King to deliver them from bondage and oppression. They were not looking for a LAMB but a LION. They were not looking for a 'suffering Saviour'. Your reasoning is predjudicial and flawed.
Not to mention devout Jews from EVERY nation were Saved Acts 2, And the NT was penned mostly by Jews ETC etc...

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#409009 Dec 12, 2012
Makesure100 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have to prove a thing. It's up to you freakshow to prove god doesn't exsist.....his creation speaks for itself. Yet humans live only 80 years if lucky. How small, mere the knowledge gained.
I am a believer Orthodox. I was showing how weak the atheists argumenty are

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#409010 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>WOW, You have the 'original Old Testament'. What kind of meds are you on Hermi? lol
4yn I read this on several sites concerning the Dead Sea Scrolls.Scholars changed their original declaration that the asoretc was the oldest to the Septuagent mirrored an older ld Testament. I posted the site.I am on 800 milligrams Viagra LOL
Pad

Rockford, IL

#409011 Dec 12, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>A handsome couple. I enjoyed the picture. I would post a pic of Sera and myself but she is wanted by law enforcement authorities in 5 states.
Brad Pitt and Angelina Joli are really a beautiful couple,I thought maybe they are your children.LOL.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#409012 Dec 12, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Pad good friend
I am in good health....And I am glad there are challenges....If I thought everything was great, then, there must be something wrong....lol....
I am glad you have the Deuterocanonicals around....I was actually reading through I Maccabees last night....
Also, a favorite of mine is the Book of Wisdom, during this last week, I have been going through it. Of course daily reading/prayer of about 10-12 Psalms, and various N.T., and O.T. books....At the present I am in Isaiah....
I am very fortunate to have the time to do so....
I am not too much connected to the modern news. I filtered it out of my life about 4-5 years ago. At most I spend 2 minutes a day on the news, with the internet on MyYahoo, and Drudgereport.
I am fortunate in LA, we have one of the most religous states in the U.S. It is a very charity oriented state, and family ties are very, very strong.
Today, I went to a friends farm who invites everyone to come and pick mustard greens and turnips....I just got back from there with two bags....He just loves to plant and have people come and pick....I am so thankful to be where I am.
Thank you for your response.That is good news about your home state.I hope someday we can move from here,but it does not look like it is ever going to happen.

Grass is not always greener somewhere else,but people find out that they are better off iin one new found place.

Thank God for good friends.And I also like Sirach and the Book of Wisdom.

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