Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#408874 Dec 12, 2012
Infighting! Corruption! Conflict of interest contracts.......within the vatican? Say it isn't so?

OH NO!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02...

OH NO!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/04/world/europ...

One true church they say.........(LOL)

Unbelievable!
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#408875 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Let's see, I quote the bile and christians get pissy. I ask logical questions and the Christians get pissy. So what do they do? They insult, threaten, accuse me of all kinds of evil things and tell me that I am being closed minded. That's a Christian for ya!
I didn't accuse you of anything sweetheart. You were taken to the presbyterian church at a young age, they said something that upet you, and now you're mad at God.

You're not close minded...you're just angry.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#408876 Dec 12, 2012
Clay wrote:
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I told you why. You don't wanna hear it.
Luther was going around spreading lies about the Bible. That was one of the reasons why the Church held council. To MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE FOLKS the truth. They reiterated what the books are. History proved that the Church was correct.
It was a litte more than Luther, but he opened the can of Chaos. The Sadducees did not believe anything beyond the first 5 books were scripture. I guess certain Jews added a bunch at the council of Jamnia in 90AD. They took some out according to other Jews who include those today. They all reject Jesus.

Forget the Fathers who quoted from them. Forget that Christians were using them to proclaim Christ. Forget that even Luther put them in an appendix and at least one version of the KJV had references linking the NT to the old. It drives the KJV onlyists nuts. They promote the idea ignorantly that because something was declared it suddenly appeared and was never taught nor believed. It is the most pathetic and weak argument ever, but they use it over and over. Yet when they make a statement of faith when protestants challenge each other on their doctrines, it was not just declared at that moment. That dog don't hunt.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408877 Dec 12, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You are probably not surprised by how many people will not even address those points, because they are afraid of the honesty it brings up.
Self.
I see that! They get quite angry with me for even bringing them up. They say nasty things to me and then accuse me of being nasty! LOL! I have been accused of lying, even though I am quoting straight from the bible!

I guess when you are a 'true christian' you can say and do was you wish!
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#408878 Dec 12, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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Your problem is with Jesus and St. James. Faith is not enough, you need works too, as Jesus and James said. Luther tried to remove James from the canon, calling it an epistle of straw. I think you'd like to get rid of it too.
Anthony says....

...Your problem is with Jesus and St. James. Faith is not enough, you need works too.

Michael says...Faith is not enough???....How about the truth?

Vatican infighting, corruption, power struggles, secret documents, conflict of interest contracts.

This is the one true church Anthony??

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/04/world/europ...

sometimes the truth hurts! but it must be told.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#408879 Dec 12, 2012
who="Anthony MN"
Do you work for the AP now? No, the liberal and heterodox "Catholic" professors who work in the liberal so-called Catholic colleges (and who are being examined by the Church to see if they are worthy of the title "Catholic"), do not represent the Church and most of the world's Catholic. Your reporting was not a topic being discussed and it was just another one of your little jabs. As I said, before you were a nice lady, now you're acting the part of Sapphira very well.

**********

Are you an editor with the power to decide what is discussed?

KM
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#408880 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>As has been stated repeatedly, if you believe this you are forced to be lieve that each 'good work' you do somehow contributes to the 'FINISHED' WORK OF JESUS ON THE CROSS. wHICH IS TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING LACKING in what Jesus did. We must somehow 'add to' that finished work. WE must 'earn' by OUR 'good works' what scripture says is Paid in Full. I truely feel sorry for anyone who believes this. It is not the GOSPEL of grace but 'another Gospel'.
No, I don't not believe that Christ's sacrifice was lacking anything. He made salvation possible. Before, it was impossible. By God's grace and Jesus's sacrifice on the cross, I have the free will to obey Jesus and win my crown. He did not however create puppets. If nothing need be done by any of His creation He would have just waived His hand and the whole human race would have been saved for all eternity.

I, on the other hand, feel truly sorry for anyone who thinks saying the sinner's prayer one day 20 years ago means he's got the golden ticket to heaven no matter what. That is not the gospel preached by Jesus and the apostles.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#408881 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I see that! They get quite angry with me for even bringing them up. They say nasty things to me and then accuse me of being nasty! LOL! I have been accused of lying, even though I am quoting straight from the bible!
I guess when you are a 'true christian' you can say and do was you wish!
Sheep.........don't worry, they hate anyone not associated with their cause. Born by CHANCE only! into the one true church.

Sad isn't it?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#408882 Dec 12, 2012
Chuck wrote:
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I didn't accuse you of anything sweetheart. You were taken to the presbyterian church at a young age, they said something that upet you, and now you're mad at God.
You're not close minded...you're just angry.
I guess you were another one Born by CHANCE! only into the one true church..........to become what your parents demanded you become........just like them!

BUSTED!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#408883 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Is her point not a legitimate one, Anthony? Should those types of facts be addressed and discussed? You seem to be implying that we should ignor any negative facts. Is that what you believe?
It has nothing to do with any of the discussions at hand. I guess I could throw out arbitrary news articles about stupid evangelicals all day long, but that's not what I'm here for. Is that why you're here? If so, your time would be better spent on the huffington post website.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408884 Dec 12, 2012
Chuck wrote:
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I didn't accuse you of anything sweetheart. You were taken to the presbyterian church at a young age, they said something that upet you, and now you're mad at God.
You're not close minded...you're just angry.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/12/holiday-...

The Catholic League has battled it out with Silverman's group in the past, even posting opposing signs on each end of the Lincoln Tunnel in 2010. But Catholic League spokesman Bill Donohue said Silverman went too far this year.

"This year it's different," he said. "This is vile. When you depict Jesus on the cross with a crown of thorns, this is exploitative. We as Christians never harass, intimidate or insult atheists. But they can't seem to say,'We simply disagree with you.' They have to insult us."

"We as Christians never harass, intimidate or insult atheists." ROTFLMAO!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#408885 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>But the fact is that 'ABRAHAM DID NOT SACRIFICE HIS SON', so the 'work' was not done. So the salvation was 'by FAITH'.
lol. You're problem is with St. James, he used the example of Abraham to illustrate the necessity of good works.
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#408886 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I see that! They get quite angry with me for even bringing them up. They say nasty things to me and then accuse me of being nasty! LOL! I have been accused of lying, even though I am quoting straight from the bible!
I guess when you are a 'true christian' you can say and do was you wish!
The Bible is a tool used to confirm judgement and actions as sacred.

NOTE -- Both sides in the American Civil War used the Bible to "prove" their positions.

Our good friend, the Vatican was one of the only entities in the world to recognize the South. They even sent a letter of support to President Davis.

Imagine that! If the "one true" claim is true, then Jesus was for the South!

But instead, we say da claim is .......... BUSTED!!!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408887 Dec 12, 2012
Michael wrote:
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Sheep.........don't worry, they hate anyone not associated with their cause. Born by CHANCE only! into the one true church.
Sad isn't it?
I know! They keep showing me how great it is to be christian! As a christian, you can get away with anything, cause god will forgive you! But if you ain't from the same sect as another christian, well you are just as damned to hell and the Atheist! LOL!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#408888 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Show me.
Matt. 7:18 - Jesus says that sound trees bear good fruit. But there is no guarantee that a sound tree will stay sound. It could go rotten.

Matt. 7:21 - all those who say "Lord, Lord" on the last day will not be saved. They are judged by their evil deeds.

Matt. 12:30-32 - Jesus says that he who is not with Him is against Him, therefore (the Greek for "therefore" is "dia toutos" which means "through this") blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. This means that failing to persevere in Jesus' grace to the end is the unforgivable sin against the Spirit. We must persevere in faith to the end of our lives.

Matt. 22:14 - Jesus says many are called but few are chosen. This man, who was destined to grace, was at God's banquet, but was cast out.

Luke 8:13 - Jesus teaches that some people receive the word with joy, but they have no root, believe for a while, and then fall away in temptation. They had the faith but they lost it.

Luke 12:42-46 - we can start out as a faithful and wise steward, then fall away and be assigned to a place with the unfaithful.

Luke 15:11-32 – in the parable of the prodigal son, we learn that we can be genuine sons of the Father, then leave home and die, then return and be described as "alive again."

John 6:70-71 - Jesus chose or elected twelve, yet one of them, Judas, fell. Not all those predestined to grace persevere to the end.

John 15:1-10 - we can be in Jesus (a branch on the vine), and then if we don't bear fruit, are cut off, wither up and die. Paul makes this absolutely clear in Rom. 11:20-23.

John 17:12 - we can be given to Jesus by the Father (predestined to grace) and yet not stay with Jesus, like Judas.

John 6:37 - those who continue to come to Jesus He won't cast out. But it's a continuous, ongoing action. We can leave Jesus and He will allow this because He respects our freewill.

John 6:39 - Jesus will not lose those the Father gives Him, but we can fall away, like Judas. God allows us not to persevere.

John 6:40 - everyone who sees the Son and believes means the person "continues" to believe. By continuing to believe, the person will persevere and will be raised up. Belief also includes obedience, which is more than an intellectual belief in God.

John 6:44 - Jesus says no one can come to me unless the Father "draws" him. This "drawing" is an ongoing process.

John 10:27-28 - when Jesus says, "no one shall snatch them out of my hands," He does not mean we can't leave His hands. We can choose to walk away from Him.

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.ht...
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#408889 Dec 12, 2012
Michael wrote:
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I guess you were another one Born by CHANCE! only into the one true church..........to become what your parents demanded you become........just like them!
BUSTED!
One of the most reliable bets in America.....

Tell me your parents' religion, and I will "guess" your religion.

I'd be correct better than 80% of the time.

Amazing how the Greatest Power in the Universe works in such an arbitrary manner ...... or at least so say some.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#408890 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/12/holiday-...
The Catholic League has battled it out with Silverman's group in the past, even posting opposing signs on each end of the Lincoln Tunnel in 2010. But Catholic League spokesman Bill Donohue said Silverman went too far this year.
"This year it's different," he said. "This is vile. When you depict Jesus on the cross with a crown of thorns, this is exploitative. We as Christians never harass, intimidate or insult atheists. But they can't seem to say,'We simply disagree with you.' They have to insult us."
"We as Christians never harass, intimidate or insult atheists." ROTFLMAO!
Why are you laughing....I'm not catholic so I could care less about you're post. Thanks for sharing though.....

So how old were you when you were at the presbyterian church and when did you realize they are lost? Were your mommy and daddy members there?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#408891 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Teaching that one becomes a christian when someone poors water over thier head as an infant is a false and dangerous doctrine. Even ROB(the priest) agreed with that.
Both Fr. Dye and I agree that pouring water on a childs head is NOT salvific. Both Fr. Dye and I also agree that being born again by water and the Holy Spirit in water baptism IS salvific. So do all of the earliest Christians and the 2000 year teaching fo the Catholic Church.

If you don't, oh well.
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#408892 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I know! They keep showing me how great it is to be christian! As a christian, you can get away with anything, cause god will forgive you! But if you ain't from the same sect as another christian, well you are just as damned to hell and the Atheist! LOL!
Brother, you are headed straight to Hell.

But Jesus loves you.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#408893 Dec 12, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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lol. You're problem is with St. James, he used the example of Abraham to illustrate the necessity of good works.
Gal 3:6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness".

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