Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#408753 Dec 11, 2012
truth wrote:
Do you see pyramid..could you imagine many many thousand years back..are you for sure real Creator can't find nothing ..or perhaps they can do..but everything what is lost can be find. Do you liked or not? Think about that!
13Dec12.....

.....Hundreds of thousands of men and women were used and they all got paid.

Ps:.....They also got food and lodgings. Life wasn't dat bad.

Fresh air, good drinking water, lottsa rice and grain, goatMeat, camelMeat, vegetables and a 'thin' Native woman between them and the ground at night. No one was FAT.....and the hardWork was the best thing that every happened.

....Still is. Bring back 'hard work' and you won't have so many of these obese 'trolley-Dollies' moping around outside and inside the malls. Isn't it disgraceful to see the size of these fatties up at the burger counters. Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

...and vot a drag and cost to the Medical system toooooooooo.

Help the environment.......serve NO foodStuffs to fatties.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#408754 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>Think of religion and science as two stair cases. The science stair case has many steps. Fact that have been proven and repeated time and time again by anyone with the necessary knowledge. The religious stair case has two landings and no steps. There are no facts and nothing in religion can be repeated, time and time again by anybody.
I don't have to prove anything. Like in any other case the burden of proof is on the prosecution. You say there is no God therefore my God is trial you prove he doesn't exist.
I never said evolution is false I just asked how it started and I get a crap wiki link when I ask where are the millions of fossils to support human evolution I get another crap wiki link and an artist idea of what a half human looks like. So you keep on loving the goo you say we all came from and ill stick with God dun it. When we die we'll see who's right.

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#408755 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>I have always liked that excuse! LOL! It is like you waving the white flag and screeming, "NO! I cannot explain it and I wish you would stop bringing it up!!" LOL!
Shall I type in caps ATLEAST 3 PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. BY NOW THE PHONE I AM TYPING ON UNDERSTANDS IT. IT IS EASIER TO MAKE A ROCK UNDERSTAND THAN YOU IT IS LESS DENSE. IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GODS LAW AND THE CIVIL LAW MOSES HANDED OUT TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL GO ASK SOMEONE ELSE AS I WILL NOT BE TELLING TOU AGAIN.

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#408756 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>Did that make you feel better? LOL!
No the evidence is stacked against you atheists do not exist.

I will argue that they know God is real and only fight the idea because of guilt.
I will also point out that no one spends time trying to prove or dis prove what they know to be false. Therefore anyone who spends time trying to show proof God isn't real must believe he is or was real.
I can also show that the only people who want there to be no God are those in fear of hell. An unwillingness to be judged by God would be a very good motive to not want one to exist. However as I can not show you a mathematical equation for the existence of God and you can not show me one that proves no God we are at an impasse. As such we will have to wait for the day of judgement of none if you're correct things will get dark and ill rot in a hole if I'm correct you're in trouble. You can stand in front of the maker and tell him in the words of Mr Obama "you didn't build that"
truth

Perth, Australia

#408757 Dec 12, 2012
''if i need i will remove this planet''
who say that..
not me
Did someone need money?
nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

they can created destroy as well recreated.
by

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408758 Dec 12, 2012
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Listen here Mr. Pittsburg,if you chose not to believe in God that is your choice.Leave Hermi be in peace.He is a good man and does not need your badgering.
Listen here, Mr. Location hidden, if Mrs. Location hidden doesn't want to partake in a public discussion, have Mrs. Location hidden stay out of a public forum.

Yeah, it is that simple.

Obviously, christians believe that they own public places, from the Courthouse lawns or the internet.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408759 Dec 12, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Hey Herme - welcome back and hope your health is well.
I don't think it matters on what posts are pulled or not pulled, does it? Isn't it all supposed to be "truth" according to men?
I think the point TBS is trying to make is, you and other so-called "Christians" emphatically admit that the Bible is "truth" and "God's Word", and should be followed.
But when someone points out a portion of this supposedly holy book - as mean, evil, horrendous, "of God", etc.....you and others seem to disagree that they are "evil" [in some extant], but would never come right out and admit HONESTLY that they are.
I can even imagine many have probably thought of saying or even did do - "Oops, maybe it isn't of God, so I will just dismiss it, scurry away from having to answer, or even divert to another topic" - and never admit to the faults in a book supposedly only "of God".
Did you think of this point?
That is very good, New Age Spiritual Leader!!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408760 Dec 12, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Hey kid, grfeat to be dialoguing with youn again.I will admit that the Old Testament confounded me with its "vengeful petty God".It seemes, as Marcion said, that there were 2 different Gods- One of the Old Testament and one of the New Testament.This question caused me to question and look and ask more questions and look further.
I believe that one must have both Wisdom and the Holy Spirit to read the Bible. I am not a Fundamentalist.I try to read the Bible prayerfully also factoring context, history, culture, language, genre of literature being used etc.When quotes are ripped out of this amd presented torn from the wholistic view of these factors and the ible itself,we get all sorts of muitations.
As an Orthodox I also have tradition-including tremendous minds and souls who write intricately of sych issues.
With this said I still look to be more enlightened on this Old estament issue.
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
I believe that one must have both Wisdom and the Holy Spirit to read the Bible.
Think about this statement. When I read it, I think, every christian should believe the same thing! How can they differ when they have the holy spirit to guide them? By adding,'wisdom' in the mix, you are clearly saying that anyone who does not believe as you do, lacks wisdom! And you call me arrogant!
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
I try to read the Bible prayerfully also factoring context, history, culture, language, genre of literature being used etc.
That works great! When you are talking about humans. Mark Twain use the 'N' word several times in his writings, did he hate blacks? No, it was a term used in his time period. The big difference that we have here is, Mark Twain was a man, an imperfect, time period locked man, not an loving omniscient god!

If those are your god's laws, then you should say so, without qualifiers, without excuses.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408761 Dec 12, 2012
chuck wrote:
<quoted text> and who are you upset with....who took you or God?
Nice one! When you point out my one mistake, you are just being a good christian, doing your godly duties. But when I point out your many mistakes, I hate your god! LOL! Good one!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408762 Dec 12, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have to prove anything. Like in any other case the burden of proof is on the prosecution. You say there is no God therefore my God is trial you prove he doesn't exist.
I never said evolution is false I just asked how it started and I get a crap wiki link when I ask where are the millions of fossils to support human evolution I get another crap wiki link and an artist idea of what a half human looks like. So you keep on loving the goo you say we all came from and ill stick with God dun it. When we die we'll see who's right.
I am not trying to prove that god doesn't exist, I cannot. What I am trying to do is, show people what the bible says about god.

If there is a god, I can guarantee that it has nothing to do with man's religions.

How life started has nothing to do with evolution.

What fossils do you think are missing? Do you know how long it takes to make a fossil and what conditions must be to make one?

3,500 years ago, when your god was invented, what were the 'known' elements? Was the Earth thought to be spherical or flat? Was the Earth thought to be at the center of the universe? What happened at the tower of babel?

If you and I lived 3,500 years ago and were still alive today, I would be in aw of all the technological advances and you would still think the Earth is the center of the universe, cause the mantra that you live by is, "I'll stick with God dun it".

And that is fine! God bless ya! But you should not be teaching a science or a history class in a public school.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408763 Dec 12, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
No the evidence is stacked against you atheists do not exist.
I will argue that they know God is real and only fight the idea because of guilt.
You can have such an opinion. It is not worth fighting over.
Bat Foy wrote:
I will also point out that no one spends time trying to prove or dis prove what they know to be false. Therefore anyone who spends time trying to show proof God isn't real must believe he is or was real.
That is false logic. btw, I never said that there is no god; I did say that I see no evidence for one.
Bat Foy wrote:
I can also show that the only people who want there to be no God are those in fear of hell.
No you can't, but you are free to say so.
Bat Foy wrote:
An unwillingness to be judged by God would be a very good motive to not want one to exist.
Again, false logic.
Bat Foy wrote:
However as I can not show you a mathematical equation for the existence of God and you can not show me one that proves no God we are at an impasse.
Not really. I never said that there is no god, just no evidence for one. And if I read the bible and it says that if I do this, god will do that and I do it, but god does not do his part, then I can be pretty sure that the bible is false.
Bat Foy wrote:
As such we will have to wait for the day of judgement of none if you're correct things will get dark and ill rot in a hole if I'm correct you're in trouble. You can stand in front of the maker and tell him in the words of Mr Obama "you didn't build that"
Pascal's Wager! I haven't heard that one in a while! LOL!

Oh, just a side note. I did not vote for President Obama and Former Governor Romney said the same thing. If you listen to more than just sound bites, you would have understood both of them to say, "You were not alone. You had the support of your families and friends."

Funny, they were both using the 'foot steps in the sand' type of analogy, but 'sound bite' lovin' Americans were not smart enough to put it together! LOL!
Clay

Chicago, IL

#408764 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
The Roman Catholic Church decided that 'SOME' of the books of the Apocrypha belonged in the bible shortly after the beginning of the Protestant Reformation. In fact, the Catholic Council of Trent(A.D.1545-1563)canonized these books some 1500 years AFTER they were writen, largly as a reaction against the Protestant Reformation.
That's just not truthful 4gvn. You need to stop with that, if you want to be a Christian. If your theology can stand on its own merits, you don't need to say thing like "the Roman Catholic Church decided at the council of Trent that some books needed to be in the Bible"
The Catholic Church felt the need to publicly state things due to heretics preaching falsehoods. In the case at the Council of Trent, Luther and his victims were running around telling everyone the Church added scripture to the Hebrew canon. In fact, they were saying many falsehoods about scripture to get people to leave the the Church- Luther was participating in Satans finest hour.

The official Jewish Canon did not get established until 70 yrs after Christ died and rose. The Jews did this in response to the growing Christians and left out the 7 books Christians were using -in order to distance themselves from them.

So the Roman Catholic Church stood up at the Council of Trent to address the issue because Luther conveniently left out the truth of Biblical history in order to win people away from Catholicism. Who could question what he was saying? They certainly couldn't Google anything to cross check him!
I pray you don't just plug your ears at this.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#408765 Dec 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen here, Mr. Location hidden, if Mrs. Location hidden doesn't want to partake in a public discussion, have Mrs. Location hidden stay out of a public forum.
Yeah, it is that simple.
Obviously, christians believe that they own public places, from the Courthouse lawns or the internet.
how about you chilling out. Hermi has just went thru a life threatening experience and we all are glad to have him back with us.

so for awhile keep your smart alec remarks to your self.

you wanna pick on someone try me.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#408766 Dec 12, 2012
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>
It's funny I just wanted to see what was new and found you posted your pic.
I had an image of you in my head of a totally different looking man.
You remind me of my dad.
I am afraid that the last year has started to take its toll on this old body of mine.sorry.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#408767 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Then perhaps you would tell me what this statement from Preston means..."May God grant him a warm place in a quiet community where the sun never shines." The question is not where is Preston referring to, as he has already admitted to me that it was a reference to hell. So the only question is what do the words "MAY God grant him"?
again, I will try and get it thru your thick skull.

you are making my words into a QUESTION, when it is and was a statement.

capish?

how long do we have to try and get your feeble infantile brain to function on 4 cyclinders?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#408768 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
No Apocryphal book was written by a true prophet or apostle of God. And no apocryphal book was confirmed by divine miracles--- something that happened often with the prophets in the Old Testament and apostles in the New Testament.
now that is some deep theological statement"No Apocryphal book was written by a true prophet or apostle of God. "

it is proof positive that you have spent years in a seminary studying the Word of God.

but maybe your teachers forgot to bring you up to date.

there were no Apostles available when those Books were written.their ship hadnt come in from the lake where they were fishing.

so what did you mean by That QUESTION ?LIAR.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#408769 Dec 12, 2012
GOT QUESTIONS ARE GREAT WHEN YOU DONT KNOW THE bIBLE, AND I SEE WHERE YOU ADDED ONE WORD TO HAVE PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS WAS YOUR THEOLOGICAL WORK.

no apocryphal book was written by a prophet

no apocryphal book was written by a {TRUE}prophet.

http://www.gotquestions.org/which-book.html
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#408770 Dec 12, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Well Hello POLLY. lol
Acting like a child again...
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#408771 Dec 12, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>any person who judged your post as nuts has a really bad mental problem.
I agree, hermi is a good man and tries to get along with every person on her.
Amen!
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#408772 Dec 12, 2012
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>you know me as Preston. I used this nick when I first came on here and I reverted back to it.
wanted to show people that I am a happily married man with a wonderful wife,
like you.
Very nice picture, Cowboy!

You have a lovely wife, also....

Glad to see a picture of you....

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