Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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preston

Waverly, OH

#408570 Dec 11, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>YOU accuse and attack everyone one this thread and tell them how spiritual and how smart you are while you attack. I am holding you to the same standard. SHOW your statement and tell us WHAT DID IT MEAN. You are a LIAR. You even responded to me in a post that I was smarter than another poster because I understood what you said. NOW you try to crawfish out of YOUR statement. I repeat. YOU ARE A LIAR. Tell us what your statement DID mean and prove me wrong. BUT you can not.
I made the statement, now you tell me how I lied and what in the world did I lie about.LOL.

I dont remember saying that you are smarter than anyone on this forum, if I did, the list would be very small with only two names marge and LTM, maybe one more ,but I would have to think a long time to find another person dumber than you are.
preston

Waverly, OH

#408572 Dec 11, 2012
4GVN wrote:
Tell us PERCY.Do you believe that anyone on this thread ( besdes you of coarse) is christian?
your accusations alone are a good indicator that you know nothing about Christ and His love.

so again, what did I lie about?
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#408573 Dec 11, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I made the statement, now you tell me how I lied and what in the world did I lie about.LOL.
I dont remember saying that you are smarter than anyone on this forum, if I did, the list would be very small with only two names marge and LTM, maybe one more ,but I would have to think a long time to find another person dumber than you are.
Got a mirror?
preston

Waverly, OH

#408574 Dec 11, 2012
4GVN wrote:
Tell us PERCY.Do you believe that anyone on this thread ( besdes you of coarse) is christian?
my name is Preston, in the future address me as such or keep your mouth shut. simple?

if you want to make fun of my name, you will get no response from me.

and I just remembered, you were going to stop posting to me some weeks ago.

THAT MAKES YOU A LIAR.lol.
preston

Waverly, OH

#408575 Dec 11, 2012
some people like 4bdn and the sda cultist need to growup. they bring nothing of any value to this forum, and are not worth talking to.so I shall place them in the "ignore" mode

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#408576 Dec 11, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Robert says......
...Yes....Moral people have sense of justice, and can act upon it. And
you an immoral, or amoral person has no sense of justice. That is why you would not defend a defenseless person, even your own children.
Michael says......A load of crap!
Maybe you should start with! notifying all the catholic bishops around the world how angry you are at them, who LIED, DECEIVED, and COVERED up the worst sins of all, protecting other clergy who taught you Robert to never commit such sins as they did.
..Where was their sense of justice and morality? Protecting the sanctity of the church and not OUR CHILDREN. Very sad!
UNBELIEVABLE!
Michael

Child abuse is a major offense.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#408577 Dec 11, 2012
really?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#408578 Dec 11, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
ROBERT F. says....
....Of course the U.S. was never a Christian theocracy.
MICHAEL says......
Its good to know you are happy that america isn't a Christian theocracy, even though the belief itself is.
The greatest threats that we have had have been ones within your very church. The ones who have lurked for centuries, in almost every diocese, robbing young children of their innocense, as the their superiors stoodbye looking the other way, denying and lieing, as ones like you said NOTHING! or very little at all.
In this battle, the enemy has already come and gone.....
Very sad!
Michael

I am sorry if your forefathers said NOTHING, or very little at all....

But try and forgive them, it might be a source of healing for you.
Clay

United States

#408579 Dec 11, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Christ is God,yet does He ever say in the New Testament that He is G o d?Christ is part of the GODHEAD,but does Jesus ever say emphatically that He is God the Son,that there is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?
The Bible was writened by Jews save Luke. The letters and scrolls were preserved by the first century church,and that care passed on to Christians in the following centuries,should everyone get excited that those people called themselves Catholics? You must realize that the persecutions of the first three centuries caused a powerful devotion to the Word of God,and that was passed from generation to generation.Whether the Bible was in fragments or in scrolls and letters,it was all sacred to the believers,and God placed in the hearts and minds of His people to preserve,protect and so on.
God knew that His word would be protected in monasteries,does that shock anyone?If it does,they should realize again that communities were always formed in Christianity,many ascetic,and the devotion and passion for the Words of Christ and the Apostles was nothing life we see today.
For starters the greatest and only true interpreter of the Holy Word is the Holy Spirit.Because of Him we are all united in what Jesus taught,lived,suffered,died,and was buried,but rose again and sits at the right hand of His Father in glory. How much more can HE be to us than our God,a Victor of the vast domain,the KING of kings,Lord of Lords.Each and every believer can know Him personally and individually.
What explanation is there needed when we ponder on the Word,read the Epistles,Paul and Peter,also John explain much and point us to the Living Christ,to love,teach,serve and be used of God,NOT to sin or live a life enslaved by sin.James the bishop of Jerusalem explains with a Jewish insight the fulfillment of the Law in Christ. WE have yet to know the full extent,as only we all see in part Clay.
The Bible is not a Book of contention for us as believers,it should only be that Book that confirms our faith,and helps us to direct our vision to that of Christ.The whole matter of the Word being spiritually discerned opens up a treasure chest of spiritual truth that can be confirmed by the Spirit.
In all the Scriptures we see the witness of the Spirit,the Word and the Blood.Even in the old covenant.I contend that the Scripture is not subservient to our will,for it represents literally Christ!
Many people feel good and are inspired by other things too. The movie Forest Gump moved me, but it ain't scripture.

You say scripture is the only thing Christ established for His Church.

Which brings to the next obvious question: which one of you 40,000 should be considered the authority. Who has the correct deposit of faith and why?
And what about those poor souls prior to the 15th century who didn't have the Bible because it was not yet printed?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#408580 Dec 11, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
So, my service to my country was meaningless?
TBS

Did I say anything about your "service"?
No

Did I even know you were in the "service"?
No.

Perhaps you are not sure yourself if your "service" to your country was meaningless? And this is a bit rhetorical....So I will share with you...,

A lot of us that have been in the service, search our souls for meaning. Especially if we have been in war. I know many that never find peace....It took years for me to recover. It has not been the easiest road, but a better one....
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#408581 Dec 11, 2012
The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of equal authority with the Bible

By tradition is meant human teachings. The Pharisees believed the same way, and Jesus bitterly condemned them, for by teaching human tradition, they nullified the commandments of God.(Read Mark 7:7-13; Colossians 2:8; Revelation 22:18).

Thus, we must pray for our RCC friends.

Amen
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#408582 Dec 11, 2012
Question: "How can I be saved?"

Answer: This simple, yet profound, question is the most important question that can be asked.”How can I be saved?” deals with where we will spend eternity after our lives in this world are over. There is no more important issue than our eternal destiny. Thankfully, the Bible is abundantly clear on how a person can be saved. The Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas,“Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”(Acts 16:30). Paul and Silas responded,“Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved”(Acts 16:31).
Clay

United States

#408583 Dec 11, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Christ is God,yet does He ever say in the New Testament that He is G o d?Christ is part of the GODHEAD,but does Jesus ever say emphatically that He is God the Son,that there is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?
The Bible was writened by Jews save Luke. The letters and scrolls were preserved by the first century church,and that care passed on to Christians in the following centuries,should everyone get excited that those people called themselves Catholics? You must realize that the persecutions of the first three centuries caused a powerful devotion to the Word of God,and that was passed from generation to generation.Whether the Bible was in fragments or in scrolls and letters,it was all sacred to the believers,and God placed in the hearts and minds of His people to preserve,protect and so on.
God knew that His word would be protected in monasteries,does that shock anyone?If it does,they should realize again that communities were always formed in Christianity,many ascetic,and the devotion and passion for the Words of Christ and the Apostles was nothing life we see today.
For starters the greatest and only true interpreter of the Holy Word is the Holy Spirit.Because of Him we are all united in what Jesus taught,lived,suffered,died,and was buried,but rose again and sits at the right hand of His Father in glory. How much more can HE be to us than our God,a Victor of the vast domain,the KING of kings,Lord of Lords.Each and every believer can know Him personally and individually.
What explanation is there needed when we ponder on the Word,read the Epistles,Paul and Peter,also John explain much and point us to the Living Christ,to love,teach,serve and be used of God,NOT to sin or live a life enslaved by sin.James the bishop of Jerusalem explains with a Jewish insight the fulfillment of the Law in Christ. WE have yet to know the full extent,as only we all see in part Clay.
The Bible is not a Book of contention for us as believers,it should only be that Book that confirms our faith,and helps us to direct our vision to that of Christ.The whole matter of the Word being spiritually discerned opens up a treasure chest of spiritual truth that can be confirmed by the Spirit.
In all the Scriptures we see the witness of the Spirit,the Word and the Blood.Even in the old covenant.I contend that the Scripture is not subservient to our will,for it represents literally Christ!
All do respect Pad, you didn't answer any of my questions...at all.
How can I leave the Catholic Church when no one can provide one shred of evidence that the Church is not who they say they are?

If you say some of our beliefs are not 'explicitly found in scripture'. Then you MUST provide scripture, that says scripture is the only thing Christ established. You can't just give me a nice testimonial about how you view the Bible!
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#408584 Dec 11, 2012
Since PERCY is too stupid to understand what he himself said. And is too big a liar to address his statement, I will spell it out for all of you who are more intelligent than PERCY.
PERCY made the statement about BILLY GRAHM, and I quote. "MAY God find him a nice hot community where the sun never shines." PERCY addmitted that this was a reference to Hell.
If a person says ,'MAY I have some potatoes,please?' He is obviously asking a person to give him some potatoes.
When PERCY said " MAY God find him a place...(HELL)... PERCY was obviously asking that God would send BILLY GRAHM TO HELL.
But now PERCY is denying that that is what he said, which makes PERCY a LIAR. Simple as that.
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#408585 Dec 11, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
All do respect Pad, you didn't answer any of my questions...at all.
How can I leave the Catholic Church when no one can provide one shred of evidence that the Church is not who they say they are?
If you say some of our beliefs are not 'explicitly found in scripture'. Then you MUST provide scripture, that says scripture is the only thing Christ established. You can't just give me a nice testimonial about how you view the Bible!
Factual history and reality.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#408586 Dec 11, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
I am an ex-presbyterian. I remember as a young child thinking, If god would have put me there, I would have listened! Why didn't adam? The only answer I got was, You are human, you would have failed, too.
You mean it was a test that no one could pass?
Shut up and stop questioning god.
TBS

I was baptised in my grandmother's/mother's Presbyterian church. And I went until about 6 years old. From then we moved. And we went to a Methodist church where I got a rather mild indoctrination, and as you listened to the pastors....My big question was, "Why did they take some books out of the Bible?" It took about 30 years to find out....

Sometimes it is good to revisit questions in childhood. And get some answers....

There are many answers for your question, of why didn't Adam listen, and do as He was told....I suspect the fear of loosing Eve, might have been high on the list.... He certainly would have been alone.

And haven't you been tempted, and with an opportunity yielded? And found yourself regretting what you did?
I have.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408587 Dec 11, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>Yes....Moral people have sense of justice, and can act upon it. And
you an immoral, or amoral person has no sense of justice. That is why you would not defend a defenseless person, even your own children.
Germany would have taken over here in WWII by now, so you would not exist, if it had not been for moral people. It is thanks to moral people the West was spared....
We tried in the East, but it has been a tough fight.
You can welcome China here, and your sons and daughters can go directly to the "work" camps and die, there is no compromise....
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
TBS
Did I say anything about your "service"?
No
Oh, I think you did. While you safely sit behind a computer, you accuse me of many terrible things, yet the only thing that you really know about me is; I am an Atheist.

Stay behind your computer and say whatever you like! It proves what kind of man you are.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408588 Dec 11, 2012
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
You said: christians claim that when they except christ as their personal lord and savior
Actually it should read: christians claim that when they ACCEPT christ as their personal lord and savior
***You said something about 3rd grade level. Hang in there...I know a few adults that have gone back to school to get their education. How can we take you seriously when you talk about scripture...come on guy.
Thank you for the correction! If you christians are right, your god made me dyslexic.

How can you take me seriously? I only quote the bible, I did not write it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#408589 Dec 11, 2012
4GVN wrote:
Question: "How can I be saved?"
Answer: This simple, yet profound, question is the most important question that can be asked.”How can I be saved?” deals with where we will spend eternity after our lives in this world are over. There is no more important issue than our eternal destiny. Thankfully, the Bible is abundantly clear on how a person can be saved. The Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas,“Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”(Acts 16:30). Paul and Silas responded,“Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved”(Acts 16:31).
So when are you going to start believing in Jesus in ALL of what he taught and spoke upon?

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#408590 Dec 11, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Michael
Child abuse is a major offense.
It must not be major enough to shut down the organization, even when it has been discovered that there was a cover-up involved.

Hmmmmm....sounds like you are having a difficult time understanding your support for the RCC, if you believe that the acts that have been done are "major".

Yet you are still a participant, and more than likely, one that donates to this organization.

Why?

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