Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590170 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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preston

Waverly, OH

#408095 Dec 9, 2012
hermi,

let me explain this statement."justin was a very good baseball player(now he did take that after his dad)in high school and was offered a scholarship to Wright State in Dayton, but turned it down. and he could do that, he had won a full scholarship to attend any college in Ohio, "

many years ago, a very rich millionaire, set up a program to send one student from each high school(4) in our county, justin won one of those academic scholarships.

he and us were very fortunate in not having to pay the high cost of college, and this program has placed many students over the years that would not have been able to afford school,to be productive in their chosen line of study

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#408096 Dec 9, 2012
Landyn not andyn lol
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#408097 Dec 9, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
. 9Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.
15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
Imagine Preston, you will have Heaven all to yourself. because all the other "sinner's were rejected.
Hi Orville how are you doing?? I hope your doing well.
Orville

Vancouver, WA

#408098 Dec 9, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>(in best Humphrey Bogart voice) You'r ok kid.


Glad your home Herme, and your health is stable.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#408099 Dec 9, 2012
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
I love your answer here Rob Amen
LTM good friend

Thank you....
Loren Eberly

Mansfield, OH

#408100 Dec 9, 2012
Nonprofit Tax Exempt Organizations and Churches:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To pay for donors tax refund supporting nonprofit, tax exempt, organizations and Churches. And fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

President and Congress defying Union Tradition, USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Won’t enable President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff or balance budget! Or enable Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable; To afford living in the USA.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#408101 Dec 9, 2012
Clay wrote:
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I know. It stinks.. As frustrating as it is going 'round and round, its hard for me to relax when folks are online spewing these lies about the Church. Its draining sometimes. But its gotta be done.
what lies are you referring to?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#408102 Dec 9, 2012
LTM wrote:
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Well tell you the truth Jethro God does want you because He loves you. The devil wants you too, but not because he loves you.
the devil wants me,he's got one hell of a fight on his hands,i don't go quietly,never have never will.
Orville

Vancouver, WA

#408103 Dec 9, 2012
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>thanks LT,I'm sure i'll be fine. i'll live for ever,back in my teens i was kind of on the wild side,not in a destructive way,didn't hurt anyone unless they tried to hurt me first,i did grow up in a street gang,i was more of a daredevil type,well a lady in my neighbor hood told me one day that " you'll live forever cause god doesn't want you, and the devil is afraid of you" so I've got nothing to worry about.

Cancers are very autonomous Jethro. They like to play "Hide N Seek". As I am experiencing. But I know it will rear it's ugly head again soon.

God does want you Jethro. He is always present. If you have not already, ask God into your heart/life through Messiah-Jesus.

20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Holy-Spirit saith unto the churches.( people).
REV 3:20
preston

Waverly, OH

#408104 Dec 9, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
. 9Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.
15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
Imagine Preston, you will have Heaven all to yourself. because all the other "sinner's were rejected.
the sinners that are rejected are those like you who wish people dead and dont repent of this sin.

you stepped over the boundaries of what is acceptable behavior. why? only you know. and God.

And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant.

For David had said to him, "Your blood be on your own head. Your own mouth testified against you when you said,'I killed the LORD's anointed.'"

Matthew 12:36, "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."

He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life; but he that openeth wide his lips [in this life] shall have destruction” at judgment day

Everything that HAPPENS anywhere is recorded in HEAVEN. The books will be opened in eternity, and we will be required to give account of our life. so please dont think that just because you dont like me, that you are gonna be excused by telling me that you wish me dead.it is recorded in one of those Books.
truth

Perth, Australia

#408105 Dec 9, 2012
Jesus is my deliverer.
''he art every heart''
He come fulfill law..its love.
Where love stay=in heart
be bless
be bless
be bless
truth

Perth, Australia

#408106 Dec 9, 2012
Jesus is King of all heart.
Where that King reside.
In heart.
Orville

Vancouver, WA

#408107 Dec 9, 2012
Loren Eberly wrote:
Nonprofit Tax Exempt Organizations and Churches:
! Or enable Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable; To afford living in the USA.


OK. You have posted many thoughts. And they are overall accurate.

So, you mentioned, " that sit on their dead hands and whine". Ya, we do. But here is the answer and it is not only legal but mandated:


...." , it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Know, I dare you. I double dare you to act upon the law set forth.


IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/dec...



Orville

Vancouver, WA

#408108 Dec 9, 2012
Loren Eberly wrote:
Nonprofit Tax Exempt Organizations and Churches:
The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully reelected Obnoxious PresidentTo afford living in the USA.


OK, so here is the answer and it is a lagal mandate...

....it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of the United States, is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--

it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--


I dare you to use this law to change the carnage created by D.C. I double dare you.



Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#408109 Dec 9, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I appreciate your post very much. Very weel thought out.I was dissapointed at the response I got after taking the time to explain to him.You are correctin helping me understand what happened here. Thahnks again.
Herme good friend

I too look forward to a good discussion of issues with atheists, and already found "confusion" when he made a couple of posits, without response.

I think often we fall prey in our faith, as we expect justice and good will(even by "well-meaning" people). So I have learned to think that justice is what I give, rather than expect....

Faith seeks understanding.(St. Anselm)

Its not the other way around....
Orville

Vancouver, WA

#408110 Dec 9, 2012
The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

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IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
truth

Perth, Australia

#408111 Dec 9, 2012
psalm 14 14=N
http://www.esvbible.org/Psalm+14/
read about your Government..
''corrupt''
truth

Perth, Australia

#408112 Dec 9, 2012
he art every heart..

fool say in his heart
there is a not God..

http://www.esvbible.org/Psalm+14/
preston

Waverly, OH

#408113 Dec 9, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Cancers are very autonomous Jethro. They like to play "Hide N Seek". As I am experiencing. But I know it will rear it's ugly head again soon.
God does want you Jethro. He is always present. If you have not already, ask God into your heart/life through Messiah-Jesus.
20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Holy-Spirit saith unto the churches.( people).
REV 3:20
Whatever we have spoken in darkness will be revealed for all to hear and know (Lk. 12:2,3)- our words will as it were be cited back to us before others in that day. We will be judged by our words.

The Lord says this in the context of warning us not to have the leaven of hypocrisy in the matter of our words-

there’s no point in saying one thing to one person and something different to someone else, because our words will be gone through at the judgment and will be open for everyone to hear.

We should live, He implies, as if we are now before the judgment; speaking things we wouldn’t be ashamed for anyone to hear. Note in passing how he says that hypocrisy in our words is like leaven, that corrupts and spreads within an individual and a community. Once somebody starts being hypocritical with their words, someone else does. And we’ve all seen plenty of this, in office departments, classrooms, men working together, women running childcare groups together, in families…and even in ecclesias. Someone has to break the cycle of saying one thing to one, and something different to someone else.

find it if you wish, but it certainly condemms you in that link.
Orville

Vancouver, WA

#408114 Dec 9, 2012
CONTINUED:

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

How many of the charges above are being commited right now? 75%!!!!!

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