Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#407999 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>Worldly evidence? Yes, I do use worldly evidence. I fully admit that. I use the bible and religious doctrine.

Since you know me from other threads, you must have changed your name, again! LOL! I have no understanding why people do that. Is their lives that bad?

If I can show people parts of the bible that they have been taught to ignore, then maybe they will start asking questions of their churches.
Nope my name is the same on all of my posts.

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#408000 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you quote paul? Didn't god and jesus give proper advice?
Honestly I like the writing style of Paul he was a hold no punches tell it like it is kind of guy. Also here you are once again asking if God and Jesus have proper advice. The facts are I have had tons of faith debates with atheists and most never acknowledge God or Jesus even exist much less ask what they said.

Which leads me to believe you know God is and Jesus is and you are just trying to mix the pot and argue for the sake of argument. I will not be drawn into a foolish debate about faith with you as you're not even bright enough to hold your own points.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408001 Dec 9, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
Honestly I like the writing style of Paul he was a hold no punches tell it like it is kind of guy. Also here you are once again asking if God and Jesus have proper advice. The facts are I have had tons of faith debates with atheists and most never acknowledge God or Jesus even exist much less ask what they said.
Which leads me to believe you know God is and Jesus is and you are just trying to mix the pot and argue for the sake of argument. I will not be drawn into a foolish debate about faith with you as you're not even bright enough to hold your own points.
Nope, not at all. There is no evidence of a god, so why would I believe in one? You, as in all belivers, try convince the world that there is at least one. I use the bible to prove that man created the religion.

You like Paul because Paul tells you that you do not have to follow god.

Why would a god majesty up laws for a small group of People? Laws that he knows they cannot follow. Then changet the laws for that same small group that he knows they cannot follow.. Then change the laws again for the rest of the world?

My role here is to show the world these flaws.

Think of it like this. Some supreme being makes some impossible laws for Buford, Wyoming, the rest of the country has no clue what is going on in Buford, Wyoming, therefore they cannot follow the laws and must be sent to hell. This supreme being decides to send someone to radically change his laws. What are the chances for belief? For thousands of years, these people were told to follow these laws and now a stranger is going to tell them something different? Still the rest of the country hasn't a chance, they haven't be given the laws again.

Does that make any sense to you? It shouldn't.

Then another guy comes along and changes all the laws again! The time the rest of the country is invited, but they are not given the son or the miracles, only the words of People they have been fighting with for thousands of years.

It is pretty silly, once you take a step back and examin would you have been taught to believe!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#408002 Dec 9, 2012
who="TheBlackSheep"
I visited several sites from where you stole your materiel. I say stole because you, like so many others 'christians' didn't give credit to the authors you take from.
I noticed that a lot of them started out with something like: " The commands were given by Moses", purposely leaving out, "And God spake all these words, saying,"Now these are the judgments which thou shalt set before them."
moses did not make up these laws, your god did and god never rescinded them. jesus told you not to remove on jot or tittle from the law.
Side note: I noticed that you like to yell, too. There is no need to yell.

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Jesus did not say 'don't remove one jot or tittle (period or comma) from the law. He said that not one of those would fail before He comes.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#408003 Dec 9, 2012
who="hojo"
Sorry KayMarie--but no one is "forced" to do accept celibacy in the Catholic Church!! Those whom God has "called" to His service to become priests do so "on their own--by their own choice and their own decision....... John 15:16 "You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you--to go and bear much fruit"..... You should know better than to criticize and interject your own "Protestant opinion" regarding those things that you "not only do not know ANYTHING about--nor do you understand!!

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More yes/no confusion. They 'choose', yes, because they don't have a choice. If they wish to follow the holy calling of ministry, they MUST 'choose' the rule of the CC.

KayMarie

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408004 Dec 9, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
Jesus did not say 'don't remove one jot or tittle (period or comma) from the law. He said that not one of those would fail before He comes.
KayMarie
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408005 Dec 9, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
Jesus did not say 'don't remove one jot or tittle (period or comma) from the law. He said that not one of those would fail before He comes.
KayMarie
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

jesus said that he is fulfilling the prophecies, not the law. How do one fulfill the law? If fact, he is saying that he did not come to destroy,{do away with} the law.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#408006 Dec 9, 2012
who="preston"here are two others who said that you are a liar.
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Dust Storm wrote:
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LOL..Regina good to see you are ok.:-) Yea she most certainly did impy very smugly. I dont recall the exact words, but wasn't she supposedly hiding behind a curtain originally where she thought she couldnt be seen? ROTFL Nothing implied there at all. Now she just stepped into an adjacent room. ;0
LOL, glad to see you're laughing 'cause I've been doing the same. You're right, it originally was a curtain, now it's an adjacent room. I'm surprised she didn't furtively glance around before guzzling and then let out a giggle or two as she stumbled back out. I can see it all now!
NOW WANT ME TO FIND THE POST THAT THEY ARE REFERRING TO. THAT YOU MADE. iGUESS THE BURDEN OF PROOF WAS EASY FOR ME TO FIND.LOL

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You didn't quote me. Trying to prove me a liar by someone who said, "I don't recall her exact words...but WASN'T she...?"

"he that loveth and MAKETH a lie..."

KM

KM

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#408007 Dec 9, 2012
who="preston" my understanding surpasses my knowledge.take that!!!

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That is obvious...
KM

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408008 Dec 9, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
You didn't quote me. Trying to prove me a liar by someone who said, "I don't recall her exact words...but WASN'T she...?"
"he that loveth and MAKETH a lie..."
KM
KM
Maybe you could find a young person to show you how to click on the reply link? Most people get the hang of it without too much instruction, but you seem to be having a very tough time with it.
Anthony MN

United States

#408009 Dec 9, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You have you own personal verbal inquisition going currently..
Your inquisition is character assassination...and I have no doubt that you are no different than those that lived in the 650 years of blood letting and torture of the Roman Catholic church..
If there were no laws to protect my wife and I THERE is no telling how far you would go to destroy us, if you could get you hands on us...
Great Catholic attributes you are manifesting.
You can't give an answer... in rebuttal to my debate ...so you attack the messenger..
BLESSINGS
GOD IS FAITHFUL
Debate? There is no debating with someone who fraudulently claims to speak for God. The only debate is how long you can last on this forum until your lies shame you into leaving or you have an epiphany and repent.
Anthony MN

United States

#408010 Dec 9, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>thanks for those compliments, I think.lol
but anyway thanks for you using the nicks that he and her have earned.
hermi is behind so he might not have read that, along with mrs fraud lying about the NUN and having to change her story three times, when she was called on it by you, ROB, clay and reggie among others.
I think you've really hit the nail on the head with the issue of honesty from confrinting and kay Preston. There's something fundamentally wrong with a person's faith when the only way they can defend themselves is to bear false witness.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#408011 Dec 9, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>The presence of the apocryphal books at Qumran(among the "Dead Sea Scrolls") does not prove thier canonicity. If it did it would mean that all the books discovered at Qumran belong int the canon. And there were hundreds of books or fragments of books discovered. The Qumran community used many of these books for wworship purposes without considering them canonical. There is no evidence that the Qumraninhabitants considered them Scripture.
They had the Book of Tobit inside their Bible.

You're telling me that - although the Jews considered the Bible the pinnacle object; most Holy book on Earth; whatever is in the pages of the Book is considered the Word of God- yet Tobit was only mixed in with it somehow? Not part of their Cannon.
Also, do you realize different Jewish communities had different Canons.
The early Christians also had their own Canon.
And Luther removed some of those books at the expense of his soul.
Anthony MN

United States

#408012 Dec 9, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="hojo"
Sorry KayMarie--but no one is "forced" to do accept celibacy in the Catholic Church!! Those whom God has "called" to His service to become priests do so "on their own--by their own choice and their own decision....... John 15:16 "You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you--to go and bear much fruit"..... You should know better than to criticize and interject your own "Protestant opinion" regarding those things that you "not only do not know ANYTHING about--nor do you understand!!
**********
More yes/no confusion. They 'choose', yes, because they don't have a choice. If they wish to follow the holy calling of ministry, they MUST 'choose' the rule of the CC.
KayMarie
False Kay, there are many different "holy" ministries a person can choose.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#408014 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
The topic:'Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican'
I am explaining that the rcc is an evil group, which believes that it is above the law and is based on mythology.
I am pretty certain that I am on topic.
Ramen!
BlackSheep,I have in the passed been very clear in my opinion of the RCC Doctrine.
I do believe there is a realm of God's true church in every denomination. People who truly love the Lord, and because of scandles of sex abuse are painted with the same brush.
The Shame for the sex abuse in the Catholic Church , starts at the very top the vatican and the many Popes.
The priests and Nuns who abused and the Popes who covered up the abuse, is mind blowing to say the least.
My heart goes out to the [Many Nuns and Priets who really wanted to serve the Lord and were really called to do so.
At harvest time the sheep and the goats will be seperated.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#408015 Dec 9, 2012
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
BlackSheep,I have in the passed been very clear in my opinion of the RCC Doctrine.
I do believe there is a realm of God's true church in every denomination. People who truly love the Lord, and because of scandles of sex abuse are painted with the same brush.
The Shame for the sex abuse in the Catholic Church , starts at the very top the vatican and the many Popes.
The priests and Nuns who abused and the Popes who covered up the abuse, is mind blowing to say the least.
My heart goes out to the [Many Nuns and Priets who really wanted to serve the Lord and were really called to do so.
At harvest time the sheep and the goats will be seperated.
Are you aware LTM, that the abuse scandal was horribly exaggerated by your side in an attempt to smear the Church and paint it as evil?
You got suckered into it cuz you're also a bigot and want to believe thing that discredit the Church.

Your own family has as many pedophiles as the Church. Whatever church you attend on Sundays, has as many - if not more.

This is why many on here call you (and others) liars. Because you ignore these basic statistics and pretend the child sexual abuse is a catholic thing.
It tells us you are not at all interested in truth.
That, and along with your constant anti catholic pamphlets you post, tells us you have another agenda and it does not have anything to do with Jesus Christ, because it involves deception.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#408016 Dec 9, 2012
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1 John 4:11 (KJV)

www.Christ.com

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408017 Dec 9, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you aware LTM, that the abuse scandal was horribly exaggerated by your side in an attempt to smear the Church and paint it as evil?
You got suckered into it cuz you're also a bigot and want to believe thing that discredit the Church.
Your own family has as many pedophiles as the Church. Whatever church you attend on Sundays, has as many - if not more.
This is why many on here call you (and others) liars. Because you ignore these basic statistics and pretend the child sexual abuse is a catholic thing.
It tells us you are not at all interested in truth.
That, and along with your constant anti catholic pamphlets you post, tells us you have another agenda and it does not have anything to do with Jesus Christ, because it involves deception.
Always trying to dodge the responsibility and blame. "Our holy, god selected, beautiful church is only as evil as you nasty, godless family." What a stupid thing to say.

As I said before, my family did not and has not covered up for a bad uncle. It has been proven that many in the rcc knew what was going on and tried to hide it.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#408018 Dec 9, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you aware LTM, that the abuse scandal was horribly exaggerated by your side in an attempt to smear the Church and paint it as evil?
You got suckered into it cuz you're also a bigot and want to believe thing that discredit the Church.
Your own family has as many pedophiles as the Church. Whatever church you attend on Sundays, has as many - if not more.
This is why many on here call you (and others) liars. Because you ignore these basic statistics and pretend the child sexual abuse is a catholic thing.
It tells us you are not at all interested in truth.
That, and along with your constant anti catholic pamphlets you post, tells us you have another agenda and it does not have anything to do with Jesus Christ, because it involves deception.
Clay I agree sex abuse is not only in the catholic church.
The sex scandle however was started by catholic's themselves who were abused.
Decades of abuse by the Catholic brothers and sisters were reported but were sweep under the carpet and covered up by the catholic church.
People are just now starting to listen, and bring to account the many priest and sisters who have abused children in their care.
I do believe as I have stated because, what has happened inside the catholic religion has nothing to do with God its about power and greed.
My problem IS with THE Popes in the catholic church who stand up on a platform and point fingers at people who are not living up to what the catholic church has ordained they should, and allow (YES ALLOWED AND COVERED UP AND LIED ABOUT) the scandless behavior with in their own rakes.
THEN HAVE THE NERVE TO CLAIM THEY ARE THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, THERE ISN'T ANY DENOMINATION IN THE WORLD CAN MAKE THAT CLAIM.
BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW CLAY GODS TRUE CHURCH SITS IN EVERYONE OF THEM.
NOW TO BE FAIR, CHILD ABUSE IS WORLD WIDE I AM SORRY TO SAY, ITS EVERY WHERE, CHILDREN ARE MORE THEN LIKELY TO BE ABUSED BY A FAMILY MEMEBER THEN A STRANGER.
THAT FOOTBALL COACH, WHO WAS ABUSING YOUNG PLAYERS, AND HE WAS SEEN DOING IT AND THAT FELLOW COVERED IT UP ALSO.
MY OWN HOME LIFE WAS LIKE THAT CLAY ITS TRUE AND MY DAD WAS A PREACHER, I TRUST VERY FEW PEOPLE CLAY TO THIS DAY.
JESUS CAME TO SAVE THE WORLD CLAY, JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS.
OF THIS WORLD. JESUS HANDS ARE TIED IF A PERSON DOES NOT CONFESS THEIR SINS. THE LEADERS OF YOUR CHURCH HAVE BEEN CAUGHT, LYING AND COVERING UP THE CRIMES AGAINST THE INNOCENT CHILDREN (CATHOLIC CHILDREN) I SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE ABUSE, AND YOU FINED FAULT WITH ME, AND PROTECT THE ABUSERS.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#408019 Dec 9, 2012
Because Of Love

December 9, 2012— byAnne Cetas

Our Daily Bread Radio is hosted by Les Lamborn

Read: Luke 2:1-7

[Mary] brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger.—Luke 2:7

Bible in a Year:
1 Timothy 1-3

I received some nice Christmas gifts last year—ski pants, a bracelet, and a Kindle reader. But what I enjoyed the most were the gifts of time with people: playing with nine grandnephews and grandnieces from out of state; having a niece and her husband and their 18-month-old daughter attend our church’s Christmas Eve service with us; visiting with a retired co-worker and his wife who are suffering with some health issues; celebrating the season with long-time friends; reading the Christmas story with loved ones. These were all special gifts because of the love we share.

God the Father, because of love, sent a gift to this world 2,000 years ago. Jesus was wrapped in swaddling cloths and laid in a manger (Luke 2:7). The shepherds knew He was an amazing gift because an angel announced His birth to them in the middle of the night while they were in their fields (vv.8-14). They rushed to see Him and then couldn’t help but share the news of this Gift with others (vv.16-17). Yet many later rejected Him, and He was crucified for our sins and buried. But He rose from the tomb and now offers salvation to all who receive Him.

Thank You, God, for the Gift You gave—because of love.
Because of love God sent His SonFrom heaven’s throne to earthTo rescue us from sin and death—A Gift of priceless worth!—Sper
God’s gift to the world is the life-giving Savior

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