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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 670354 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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preston

Athens, OH

#408125 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Sorry, none of this made sense to me. jesus said that you were not to change god's laws and that he did not come to destroy the laws. paul comes in and destroys the laws! And you believe paul.
couldyou tell us where Paul changed any Law?

I havent ever read that, so maybe you can enlighten not only me but every one else.

the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good" (Romans 7:12).

doesnt sound like Paul is destoying the law in that verse. may be you just dont have that understanding that paul has?

so how about what he wrote to Timothy?

All scripture" (which certainly includes the Torah, or section known as "the Law") is "profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16).
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408126 Dec 9, 2012
You forget..
God law wrote in heart.
Place where are been born..law is not been for us..
law where i come ..is not been for us..as you can see must be something reserve for us..
''you neglected your God''..
yes they offering today everything to become as wrath as they want..for people old person or kids not deference..its offer of corupt world.
Where they follow satan ''choose''is word of satanic followers..
''its written'' long time ago
preston

Athens, OH

#408127 Dec 9, 2012
Orville wrote:
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. 9Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.
15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
Imagine Preston, you will have Heaven all to yourself. because all the other "sinner's were rejected.
NOW LOOK VERY CLOSE AT THIS POST LTM, ORVILLES FIRST POST IS ONE ATTACKING ME.

HE DOESNT SHOW WHO THIS POST WAS FROM OR WHAT IT CURTAILS,

ALL IT IS ,IS A BLATENT ATTACK ON ME AND WITH YOUR POOR EYESIGHT, YOU CANT see IT.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408128 Dec 9, 2012
Robert F wrote:
You write,"There is no evidence of a god, so why would I believe in one? You, as in all belivers, try convince the world that there is at least one. I use the bible to prove that man created the religion."
Answer: Because you deny the evidence, you deny God.
What evidence? That you feel god, therefore he must be real? The bible? A book with too many contradictions, false information, and evil laws to list?
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>Belief in one God, is against the way human beings rule on this earth. Human rule is religion. Belief in One God, is Truth.
Of course it is! Billions of others and myself are just in denial. Where's the proof?
Robert F wrote:
So in part you are correct, the Bible proves man created religion, and the laws that arise out of them....
You write, "My role here is to show the world these flaws."
Answer: Sounds like a Napoleonic Complex....
WTF? And every believer of every religion believes that their role is to bring people to their god(s) or kill them. What's your point? Is it it only a Napoleonic Complex when it conflicts with your beliefs?
Robert F wrote:
Your "logic" and reasoning skills are very simple( Originally, I tried to use logic, then philosophy with you, and you could only accuse me of redirecting issues, and IMHO you will do in the future with anyone. This proved to me the futility of writing on an educated level with you.), lack of knowledge of the Bible is shallow
Thank you! My logic and reasoning is quite simple. I know that you meant to insult me, but you failed. Simple logic states that, if there is no proof, there is no reason to believe. If there are flaws in the bible, then the bible is not to be trusted. There are many flaws in the bible. christians just try to rationalize them.

As far as biblical knowledge, didn't you claim that moses gave the laws to the people? In my shallow bit of biblical knowledge, I knew that you were in error or lying. god gave the laws to moses to give to the people and jesus said that those laws are not to be changed and not followed.
Robert F wrote:
(You take out scriptures and use them as you see fit. Everyone sees it. But the argument goes away when you quote the Bible in the first place, as an Authority greater than your own..), and your understanding limited(Here I tried to communicate with you concerning faith.
Faith is believing without and even against evidence. I have no need for faith.

As for my biblical quotes; take any one of them and make them sound good. Take the killing of the slave, after the slave suffers for a day or two. Make that sound as if a good person would believe that is a good and just law.
Robert F wrote:
But your denial to enter in a discussion, merely displays the shakiness of your faith in a no-god system,
Nice try. I do not have faith that there is no god. I have no proof that there is a god. A genius such as yourself should be able to understand the difference.
Robert F wrote:
view of the Universe, or whatever you believe....) In other words, "Stop trying to be like God, and tell people how to think. You obviously don't have the skills. And you are not Moses....
I am telling people to think, not how to. If you don't like that, maybe you should move on to a private discussion group where you can keep non-believers out.
Robert F wrote:
Finally I would commend you for having us self-examine our beliefs, it lends to our better understanding. You might try a bit of it on yourself....
I have and continue to do so, daily. I have read the bible. I have done a lot of research and I have found that the bible is a man made book, created to control others. If you, or anyone else, has enough evidence to convince me that I am wrong, I would be glad to hear it. After all, if there is a heaven and a hell, I would rather not be tortured for eternity just for not believing in the right god.
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408129 Dec 9, 2012
you serve your organization..not people..
people simply left alone..

your l;aw belong to your organization which try lead astray people toward wrath..where others prepeare on long run many dangerous things..your words is choose..who say that..we know about wide way where tv media as well others political organization prepare what they want..not what people want..
All your organization set up ''wrath'' as they want..not what people want.

corupt
''its written''
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
long time ago
deference is that you don't liked what i say..but does meter..''its written'' seen before long time ago.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408130 Dec 9, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="TheBlackSheep"
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
**********
Apples and oranges. Jesus didn't say that no one would BREAK one of the commandments. He said that NOT ONE 'dot or comma' of the commandments would FAIL.
People fail; God's Word DOES NOT FAIL.
KayMarie
This is as plain as I can make it. If you don't understand it, get some help.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408131 Dec 9, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
[who="TheBlackSheep"
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
jesus said that he is fulfilling the prophecies, not the law. How do one fulfill the law? If fact, he is saying that he did not come to destroy,{do away with} the law.
**********
LOVE is the fulfilling of the law. The first commandments speak of loving God. The rest speak of loving mankind. Jesus fulfilled the law. EVERY WHERE HE WENT, HE WAS DOING GOOD.
KayMarie
Again, it is plainly written. One might fulfill prophecy but one cannot fulfill a law. They can either obey it or break it.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408132 Dec 9, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Herme good friend
lol...Yes. Logic and analytical thinking is an atheist's strength. And in general, I have learned it well in discussions with them. But TBS denies he is an atheist, agnostic, or theist....He denies evidence, and reason as well.
It has been hard for me to put a name for what he preaches, but I think it is a form of anarchism/nihilism, which has been sugar-coated....Its like a Christian trying to talk to Nietzsche.
You are a real thikie, aren't you?

I am an Atheist. There is no evidence of a god.
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408133 Dec 9, 2012
Jesus Christ come fulfill law.
its love

''neglected''

''you neglected your God''
''its written''

Long time is seen from eyes of prophets.

Did you judge and killed prophets?
yes you are its your law..

''everything will past my words not''
Jesus Christ word is perfect.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408134 Dec 9, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>couldyou tell us where Paul changed any Law?
I havent ever read that, so maybe you can enlighten not only me but every one else.
the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good" (Romans 7:12).
doesnt sound like Paul is destoying the law in that verse. may be you just dont have that understanding that paul has?
so how about what he wrote to Timothy?
All scripture" (which certainly includes the Torah, or section known as "the Law") is "profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16).
One of god's laws is: You must stone a girl to death for not being a virgin on her wedding night.

Do you follow this law?

If she is the daughter of a preacher, she must be burned at the stake.

Do you follow this law?

Do you make rape victims marry their rapist? As long as the rapist paid the father 50 shekels, of course.

Do you follow this law?

Why not? Both god and jesus said that you had to follow god's laws; why don't you?

If you tried to follow those law of god's in America, you would be thrown in jail. Most of you claim that your god's laws are above man's laws, but you still don't follow god's laws, why?
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408135 Dec 9, 2012
We don't need think.

''its already seen with eyes of all prophets''
''corupt and neglected''
your law is not my law and never will be..
as well for me and many not exist..
as not exist for Jesus Christ..
its simply like that..

corupt people from corrupt organization lead people astray..
they serve organization not people..

They set up themself above all..

They think they are god..in reality not.
preston

Athens, OH

#408136 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
One of god's laws is: You must stone a girl to death for not being a virgin on her wedding night.
Do you follow this law?
If she is the daughter of a preacher, she must be burned at the stake.
Do you follow this law?
Do you make rape victims marry their rapist? As long as the rapist paid the father 50 shekels, of course.
Do you follow this law?
Why not? Both god and jesus said that you had to follow god's laws; why don't you?
If you tried to follow those law of god's in America, you would be thrown in jail. Most of you claim that your god's laws are above man's laws, but you still don't follow god's laws, why?
I am going to give you a very simple answer.

the Laws were given to help us live a godly life, dont break them, no Punishment.

now see how simple that is?
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408137 Dec 9, 2012
cross
did you put and kill Jesus Christ on cross
-don't kill is your law

then you are
pro-death
trough man come death
you calling on death as well you are pro-death..
then your law not worthy
preston

Athens, OH

#408138 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a real thikie, aren't you?
I am an Atheist. There is no evidence of a god.
then dont concern yourself with His Laws. since you dont beleive Him.

I didnt know that when I first posted to you, so I will not waste my time with you. walk in the light that you believe in

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408139 Dec 9, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I am going to give you a very simple answer.
the Laws were given to help us live a godly life, dont break them, no Punishment.
now see how simple that is?
Real simple! You are not following any of the ones I mentioned, so you will next tell me that through jesus, you are forgiven; but you don't even acknowledge that you are failing to obey these laws. You are doing nothing to follow these laws.

You are not thinking, tomorrow god, I will go out and help my neighbor stone his daughter because her wedding sheets were not bloody!

What does your god say about willfully disobeying his laws and doing nothing to correct it?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408140 Dec 9, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>then dont concern yourself with His Laws. since you dont beleive Him.
I didnt know that when I first posted to you, so I will not waste my time with you. walk in the light that you believe in
That's stupid! Didn't you read the bible? You are supposed to kill me! You are suppose to kill my entire village! That raises some concern with me.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#408141 Dec 9, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
More vitriol, more lies, more envy. Do you think God is happy with your doing this? Not a very good "Christian" witness, Kay. You're coming across as an embittered shrew.
~~~

More inquisition and name calling from you Roman Catholics..

Evidently none of you have any proof that you can give from the Bible

Do you do the usual childish thing......that Roman Catholics do

You call names...and vent your rancor.

When you get through name calling you have not accomplished anything....
Clay

Denver, CO

#408142 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
When we are talking about the catholic church and you throw out accusations about our families, you are dodging responsibility.
How many priests have been caught? How many of them has the church moved from one parish to another after the family complained. How many of those priests were caught again? And how many of them were once again, shielded from the law, and moved to yet another parish?
How far up did the cover up go? For how many years?
Once you deal with that, then we can talk about my family.
Eh, you guys are the ones who bring up child sexual abuse every single day.
I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy. My kid is more at risk at your family reunion then a Catholic function with a Priest. Statistically speaking, there are more potential perpetrators in all other institutions- and families.
Point being, I would never get online and trash Blacksheeps family for having molesters and his aunts n uncles being hush hush about it.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#408143 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a real thikie, aren't you?
I am an Atheist. There is no evidence of a god.
Anyone that post as much as you ..........indicates that you need to confirm your own silly beliefs. There is a creator freakshow. Tool.....there is no fossil evidence in the evolution debate..........nada. Find another forum to post your trashy, scum, dripplings.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#408144 Dec 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
This is as plain as I can make it. If you don't understand it, get some help.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Anyone who has to post as much as you, is a freakshow. You are false, a liar in everyway TOOL. Gleen your appraisal. You succumb to garbage talk.

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