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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665514 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408105 Dec 9, 2012
Jesus is my deliverer.
''he art every heart''
He come fulfill law..its love.
Where love stay=in heart
be bless
be bless
be bless
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408106 Dec 9, 2012
Jesus is King of all heart.
Where that King reside.
In heart.
Orville

Battle Ground, WA

#408107 Dec 9, 2012
Loren Eberly wrote:
Nonprofit Tax Exempt Organizations and Churches:
! Or enable Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable; To afford living in the USA.


OK. You have posted many thoughts. And they are overall accurate.

So, you mentioned, " that sit on their dead hands and whine". Ya, we do. But here is the answer and it is not only legal but mandated:


...." , it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Know, I dare you. I double dare you to act upon the law set forth.


IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/dec...



Orville

Battle Ground, WA

#408108 Dec 9, 2012
Loren Eberly wrote:
Nonprofit Tax Exempt Organizations and Churches:
The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully reelected Obnoxious PresidentTo afford living in the USA.


OK, so here is the answer and it is a lagal mandate...

....it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of the United States, is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--

it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--


I dare you to use this law to change the carnage created by D.C. I double dare you.



Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#408109 Dec 9, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I appreciate your post very much. Very weel thought out.I was dissapointed at the response I got after taking the time to explain to him.You are correctin helping me understand what happened here. Thahnks again.
Herme good friend

I too look forward to a good discussion of issues with atheists, and already found "confusion" when he made a couple of posits, without response.

I think often we fall prey in our faith, as we expect justice and good will(even by "well-meaning" people). So I have learned to think that justice is what I give, rather than expect....

Faith seeks understanding.(St. Anselm)

Its not the other way around....
Orville

Battle Ground, WA

#408110 Dec 9, 2012
The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

----------

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408111 Dec 9, 2012
psalm 14 14=N
http://www.esvbible.org/Psalm+14/
read about your Government..
''corrupt''
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408112 Dec 9, 2012
he art every heart..

fool say in his heart
there is a not God..

http://www.esvbible.org/Psalm+14/
preston

Athens, OH

#408113 Dec 9, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Cancers are very autonomous Jethro. They like to play "Hide N Seek". As I am experiencing. But I know it will rear it's ugly head again soon.
God does want you Jethro. He is always present. If you have not already, ask God into your heart/life through Messiah-Jesus.
20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Holy-Spirit saith unto the churches.( people).
REV 3:20
Whatever we have spoken in darkness will be revealed for all to hear and know (Lk. 12:2,3)- our words will as it were be cited back to us before others in that day. We will be judged by our words.

The Lord says this in the context of warning us not to have the leaven of hypocrisy in the matter of our words-

there’s no point in saying one thing to one person and something different to someone else, because our words will be gone through at the judgment and will be open for everyone to hear.

We should live, He implies, as if we are now before the judgment; speaking things we wouldn’t be ashamed for anyone to hear. Note in passing how he says that hypocrisy in our words is like leaven, that corrupts and spreads within an individual and a community. Once somebody starts being hypocritical with their words, someone else does. And we’ve all seen plenty of this, in office departments, classrooms, men working together, women running childcare groups together, in families…and even in ecclesias. Someone has to break the cycle of saying one thing to one, and something different to someone else.

find it if you wish, but it certainly condemms you in that link.
Orville

Battle Ground, WA

#408114 Dec 9, 2012
CONTINUED:

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

How many of the charges above are being commited right now? 75%!!!!!

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#408115 Dec 9, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Nietzsche ended up talking to his horse. So much for that. I can see you are a kindred spirit.Feels good to have a compadre. Thanks
:)
Loren Eberly

Mansfield, OH

#408116 Dec 9, 2012
Union Traditions:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Government enforce Union Traditions demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
Orville

Battle Ground, WA

#408117 Dec 9, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>Whatever we have spoken in darkness will be revealed for all to hear and know (Lk. 12:2,3)- our words will as it were be cited back to us before others in that day. We will be judged by our words.
The Lord says this in the context of warning us not to have the leaven of hypocrisy in the matter of our words-
there’s no point in saying one thing to one person and something different to someone else, because our words will be gone through at the judgment and will be open for everyone to hear.
We should live, He implies, as if we are now before the judgment; speaking things we wouldn’t be ashamed for anyone to hear. Note in passing how he says that hypocrisy in our words is like leaven, that corrupts and spreads within an individual and a community. Once somebody starts being hypocritical with their words, someone else does. And we’ve all seen plenty of this, in office departments, classrooms, men working together, women running childcare groups together, in families…and even in ecclesias. Someone has to break the cycle of saying one thing to one, and something different to someone else.
find it if you wish, but it certainly condemms you in that link.


Take your meds.
truth

Andrews Farm, Australia

#408118 Dec 9, 2012
You seek answer as God words.
''its written''
Yes long time ago.
corrupt
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

My school is been small but very nice school.
Name which my school have is name of great poet.
He wrote many poems.

One day Representative of his place as Government influence with great privilege asked him.
''O Tin what you doing there''
He liked let down him as crazy and lazy person without any job.
He keep one stick in hand and picking dry lives under old nuts tree.

''I picking my Government''..he think as rubbish
collector, how many person is involved lead his people as well small poor province which never have progress as well entire people in exile as real Exodus.

Man with great influence smile..he not think properly that time but he return another day..as well asked ..please tell me ones more what you say..

He realize that He speak in parable as poem.
To wrote poem as book is also work.
He describe as characteristic about all of them.
As exodus of his people he usually say
as you say today ''see you later''..
He say;''vidimo se medu zvijezdama=as star''!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408119 Dec 9, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I truly do not understand you. I went through all that for you. I wanted to answer what you asked. Yelling? I klnow I used headings in caps.Sometimes my caps stick. If I was angry with you I would have not gone through that trouble.I really did take the time for you and do not understand why you come back with attacks. I will know not to do that for you next time. thought you were sincere.Also I do not need to steal. I have written many academic papers when I have used the format for citing resource material. I did not know this site was so academic.Aslso I usually paraphrase and rewrite what I find. It seems to me you do not have a sincere heart. Thats ok. I have learned from my experience.
It is very clear what Christ said.He said it in His own words and I quoted Him. If you dismiss Peter, Paul, or anyone else as legitimate carriers of Christ's message then that is another issue altogether.You are hardly a student of Mosaic law or hristian theology.I thought that I gave you a very thorough exposition of both.I will not be mean spirited in return.I wil continue to study and learn.
You must have read someone else's post. I did not attack you.

You claim that I don't have a sincere heart; why, because I did not buy into what you were selling?

I don't think that you understand what I am saying.

How many times has your all knowing god changed the rules to get into heaven? Why would an all knowing god have to change his rules?

Why would god appear to such a small group of people and give them laws that he knows they cannot abide by?

In Matthew 5, jesus clearly states that god's laws are not to be changed or ignored. You are still required to follow them. Why would god wait 30+ years after jesus' death to have paul change his laws the both he and jesus said that you had to follow?

None of it makes sense.
Orville

Battle Ground, WA

#408120 Dec 9, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>Whatever we have spoken in darkness will be revealed for all to hear and know (Lk. 12:2,3)- our words will as it were be cited back to us before others in that day. We will be judged by our words.
The Lord says this in the context of warning us not to have the leaven of hypocrisy in the matter of our words-
there’s no point in saying one thing to one person and something different to someone else, because our words will be gone through at the judgment and will be open for everyone to hear.
We should live, He implies, as if we are now before the judgment; speaking things we wouldn’t be ashamed for anyone to hear. Note in passing how he says that hypocrisy in our words is like leaven, that corrupts and spreads within an individual and a community. Once somebody starts being hypocritical with their words, someone else does. And we’ve all seen plenty of this, in office departments, classrooms, men working together, women running childcare groups together, in families…and even in ecclesias. Someone has to break the cycle of saying one thing to one, and something different to someone else.
find it if you wish, but it certainly condemms you in that link.




“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408121 Dec 9, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>This is quite a intriguing way to make an argument.A teacher (Christ)teaches his immediate followers with the explicit purpose of carrying His teachings into the world.He commissions tham. At the time of His ascension no less. His disciples accept Paul. But the disciples and Paul say things which contradict ones argument. Therefore go to a last resort. Does the Bible say that Christ said it out of His own mouth?hich is really an argument that they wrote down in the Bible eveything that Christ ever said.
And an argument against what the Bible says whuich is that Christ commissioned them to carry what he taught into the world.Now we are far from logic and analytical thinking which is supposed to be the atheist's strength.
Sorry, none of this made sense to me. jesus said that you were not to change god's laws and that he did not come to destroy the laws. paul comes in and destroys the laws! And you believe paul.
Orville

Battle Ground, WA

#408122 Dec 9, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>Whatever we have spoken in darkness will be revealed for all to hear and know (Lk. 12:2,3)- our words will as it were be cited back to us before others in that day. We will be judged by our words.
The Lord says this in the context of warning us not to have the leaven of hypocrisy in the matter of our words-
there’s no point in saying one thing to one person and something different to someone else, because our words will be gone through at the judgment and will be open for everyone to hear.
We should live, He implies, as if we are now before the judgment; speaking things we wouldn’t be ashamed for anyone to hear. Note in passing how he says that hypocrisy in our words is like leaven, that corrupts and spreads within an individual and a community. Once somebody starts being hypocritical with their words, someone else does. And we’ve all seen plenty of this, in office departments, classrooms, men working together, women running childcare groups together, in families…and even in ecclesias. Someone has to break the cycle of saying one thing to one, and something different to someone else.
find it if you wish, but it certainly condemms you in that link.


Holy Spirit through Preston to Preston.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#408123 Dec 9, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Most families cover up abuse. Its something that is hush hush and not talked about. Its been that way forever.
Again, don't accuse me of trying to dodge responsibility and blame. Im just pointing out the hypocrisy of the bigots.
They sensationalize this topic for personal gain. Then when we Catholics show them independent statistics showing this evil is actually LESS in our Church than any other institution, they accuse us of deflecting responsibility. THIS after we already stated to hang the guilty and imprison the ones who helped cover it up. Amazing but expected when considering who we're dealing with....Ignorant Bigots.
When we are talking about the catholic church and you throw out accusations about our families, you are dodging responsibility.

How many priests have been caught? How many of them has the church moved from one parish to another after the family complained. How many of those priests were caught again? And how many of them were once again, shielded from the law, and moved to yet another parish?

How far up did the cover up go? For how many years?

Once you deal with that, then we can talk about my family.
preston

Athens, OH

#408124 Dec 9, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Take your meds.
lol,I can take a percoset and cabapentin for the shingels and the nerve pain,

you however can not take any medicine for your black heart.

but thanks be unto God, there is a remedy for you.

For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls:

for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

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