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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#407701 Dec 7, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>08Dec12.....
....'ol unZippedFlyJFK' couldn't keep his drawers on....much like 'ol unZippedFlyBillClinton'.
Why, Bill's wife Hillary's thighs haven't thawed out since 1997 and Bill spent the remaining years of his pResidency sleeping on 'da couch'. This arseHole LIED to the country, the Supreme Court....and worser of all to his wife and family. His young daughter ran rivers of tears in embarrassment. Both Hillary and her daughter deserved a whole lot better. Eventually, Hillary will tell Bill to get lost.....just as soon as she is in a position ...politicallyCorrect to her.....to do so.
....back to JFK...at the time he was murdered, him and Jackie were speaking about separation and divorce. 50 years later, a whole lotta da Truth has come out. Kennedy was shaggin' everything and anything he could get his hands on. Unfortunately for him, one girl was the girlfriend of Mafia Boss Giancanna....and he took care of Kennedy. Big Time.
..Meanwhile, Jackie fared pretty good. She ended up marrying the Greek tycoon (then the richest man in the WholeWideWorld) and for getting laid every 'other' Tuesday...she got 20 million Bucks.
And may there sorry souls rest in Piece.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
(weeps over the sins of our Presidents) I would have been proud to take my place beside you in the Rose Garden to stone these 2 perverts.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#407702 Dec 7, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>i Didnt know that. Very interesting and definitely deserving of more thought and inquiry.
4GVN is in error. The Mark and Matthew quote lots of texts not in the Christian Bible. For example:

Matt. 6:19-20 - Jesus' statement about laying up for yourselves treasure in heaven follows Sirach 29:11 - lay up your treasure.

Matt.. 7:12 - Jesus' golden rule "do unto others" is the converse of Tobit 4:15 - what you hate, do not do to others.

Matt. 7:16,20 - Jesus' statement "you will know them by their fruits" follows Sirach 27:6 - the fruit discloses the cultivation.

Matt. 9:36 - the people were "like sheep without a shepherd" is same as Judith 11:19 - sheep without a shepherd.

Matt. 11:25 - Jesus' description "Lord of heaven and earth" is the same as Tobit 7:18 - Lord of heaven and earth.

Matt. 12:42 - Jesus refers to the wisdom of Solomon which was recorded and made part of the deuterocanonical books.

Matt. 16:18 - Jesus' reference to the "power of death" and "gates of Hades" references Wisdom 16:13.

Matt. 22:25; Mark 12:20; Luke 20:29 - Gospel writers refer to the canonicity of Tobit 3:8 and 7:11 regarding the seven brothers.

Matt. 24:15 - the "desolating sacrilege" Jesus refers to is also taken from 1 Macc. 1:54 and 2 Macc. 8:17.

Matt. 24:16 - let those "flee to the mountains" is taken from 1 Macc. 2:28.

Matt. 27:43 - if He is God's Son, let God deliver him from His adversaries follows Wisdom 2:18.

Mark 4:5,16-17 - Jesus' description of seeds falling on rocky ground and having no root follows Sirach 40:15.

Mark 9:48 - description of hell where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched references Judith 16:17.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#407703 Dec 7, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>i Didnt know that. Very interesting and definitely deserving of more thought and inquiry.
Mark and Matthew also quoted the Gospel of Thomas, often word for word.
_BobLoblah_

Since: Apr 11

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#407704 Dec 7, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>(weeps over the sins of our Presidents) I would have been proud to take my place beside you in the Rose Garden to stone these 2 perverts.
08Dec12.....

.....'Four'....include their wives who knew and did NOT tell because of the effects on the political lives of their schidtFace husbands. Money helped.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
_BobLoblah_

Since: Apr 11

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#407705 Dec 7, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>(weeps over the sins of our Presidents) I would have been proud to take my place beside you in the Rose Garden to stone these 2 perverts.
08Dec12.....

....and by da vey,'ol JoeKennedy' was worser than da sicko son JFK.

Ps:....da vey he treated Rose, his wife and his 109 kids only confirms that he is roasting in Hell.

....right next to his mistress Olivia de Havilland.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
4GVN

Saint Louis, MO

#407706 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
4GVN is in error. The Mark and Matthew quote lots of texts not in the Christian Bible. For example:
Matt. 6:19-20 - Jesus' statement about laying up for yourselves treasure in heaven follows Sirach 29:11 - lay up your treasure.
Matt.. 7:12 - Jesus' golden rule "do unto others" is the converse of Tobit 4:15 - what you hate, do not do to others.
Matt. 7:16,20 - Jesus' statement "you will know them by their fruits" follows Sirach 27:6 - the fruit discloses the cultivation.
Matt. 9:36 - the people were "like sheep without a shepherd" is same as Judith 11:19 - sheep without a shepherd.
Matt. 11:25 - Jesus' description "Lord of heaven and earth" is the same as Tobit 7:18 - Lord of heaven and earth.
Matt. 12:42 - Jesus refers to the wisdom of Solomon which was recorded and made part of the deuterocanonical books.
Matt. 16:18 - Jesus' reference to the "power of death" and "gates of Hades" references Wisdom 16:13.
Matt. 22:25; Mark 12:20; Luke 20:29 - Gospel writers refer to the canonicity of Tobit 3:8 and 7:11 regarding the seven brothers.
Matt. 24:15 - the "desolating sacrilege" Jesus refers to is also taken from 1 Macc. 1:54 and 2 Macc. 8:17.
Matt. 24:16 - let those "flee to the mountains" is taken from 1 Macc. 2:28.
Matt. 27:43 - if He is God's Son, let God deliver him from His adversaries follows Wisdom 2:18.
Mark 4:5,16-17 - Jesus' description of seeds falling on rocky ground and having no root follows Sirach 40:15.
Mark 9:48 - description of hell where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched references Judith 16:17.
Finding passages which contain similar wording is NOT QUOTING. There are many similar phrases in the book of Mormon, But that does not indicate that the apostles quoted from them.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#407707 Dec 8, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Finding passages which contain similar wording is NOT QUOTING. There are many similar phrases in the book of Mormon, But that does not indicate that the apostles quoted from them.
Wow! You are really brainwashed.

The ones I cited are recognized by most theologians, biblical scholars and even several early church leaders.

Too bad most Chrisitians don't know anything more than the lies their masters tell them.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#407708 Dec 8, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>i Didnt know that. Very interesting and definitely deserving of more thought and inquiry.
Not really, all of the protestant objections have been covered in detail in here and by Apologists. The usual are quotes dont match word for word, this book wasnt quoted from by the Apostles but then again all they accept weren't either. So they need to start throwing more books out by that logic. Then there is a historical error, there is witchcraft, blah blah blah. All of it can be dissected down to the minute detail which is often done against atheists who use the same type of arguments with the books they accept. A google search will reveal very quicky Rabbis who accuse Paul of changing or leaving out verses to justify his doctrines. There are also those who claim they are Christian who reject all of Pauls writings as uninspired preaching his own religion.

http://catholiceducation.org/articles/apologe... 5 myths on 7 books.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-old-testam...

The reason the deuterocanonical books arenít in his bible is because Martin Luther threw them out. If the Jews rejected them which some did at the council in Jamnia in 90AD primarily because Christians were using them to bolster Jesus. They were in the Septuigant which Jesus and the Apostles used, but we dont see them objecting. Furthermore the Ethiopian Jews do have all the books today.

There are no councils which the stamp of approval the protestants deemed fit 1500 years later. Well Luthers bible was missing 4 more books for 200 years that Protestants deemed worthy. The Council of Rome in 382 under Pope Damasus included the 73 books we honor today. This canon was repeated at Hippo and Carthage (A.D.393 and 397)

Since Luther snidely wrote to the Pope paraphrased closely. "Why do you stare at the phrase faith alone like a cow stares at a gate? I know full well the word alone is not there, but it shall be so, because I Martin Luther will have it so. Pretty arrogant. In his bible he did add the word alone. However the only place where alone appears in conjunction with faith is when James says, "NOT by faith alone." Since paul used the word alone elsewhere not in relation to faith I see no reason why he would not have said it. He could not fit James and the other books into his new doctrines so he set out to discredit them.

Even accepting the books they do is an admission they accept the authority of the Catholic Church on which books were valid.

http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/deuteros...

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#407709 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
4GVN is in error. The Mark and Matthew quote lots of texts not in the Christian Bible. For example:
Matt. 6:19-20 - Jesus' statement about laying up for yourselves treasure in heaven follows Sirach 29:11 - lay up your treasure.
Matt.. 7:12 - Jesus' golden rule "do unto others" is the converse of Tobit 4:15 - what you hate, do not do to others.
Matt. 7:16,20 - Jesus' statement "you will know them by their fruits" follows Sirach 27:6 - the fruit discloses the cultivation.
Matt. 9:36 - the people were "like sheep without a shepherd" is same as Judith 11:19 - sheep without a shepherd.
Matt. 11:25 - Jesus' description "Lord of heaven and earth" is the same as Tobit 7:18 - Lord of heaven and earth.
Matt. 12:42 - Jesus refers to the wisdom of Solomon which was recorded and made part of the deuterocanonical books.
Matt. 16:18 - Jesus' reference to the "power of death" and "gates of Hades" references Wisdom 16:13.
Matt. 22:25; Mark 12:20; Luke 20:29 - Gospel writers refer to the canonicity of Tobit 3:8 and 7:11 regarding the seven brothers.
Matt. 24:15 - the "desolating sacrilege" Jesus refers to is also taken from 1 Macc. 1:54 and 2 Macc. 8:17.
Matt. 24:16 - let those "flee to the mountains" is taken from 1 Macc. 2:28.
Matt. 27:43 - if He is God's Son, let God deliver him from His adversaries follows Wisdom 2:18.
Mark 4:5,16-17 - Jesus' description of seeds falling on rocky ground and having no root follows Sirach 40:15.
Mark 9:48 - description of hell where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched references Judith 16:17.
Very helpful. Saved me a lot of time. Great to see you again. Thanks again. Will file this away.

Since: Dec 11

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#407710 Dec 8, 2012
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really, all of the protestant objections have been covered in detail in here and by Apologists. The usual are quotes dont match word for word, this book wasnt quoted from by the Apostles but then again all they accept weren't either. So they need to start throwing more books out by that logic. Then there is a historical error, there is witchcraft, blah blah blah. All of it can be dissected down to the minute detail which is often done against atheists who use the same type of arguments with the books they accept. A google search will reveal very quicky Rabbis who accuse Paul of changing or leaving out verses to justify his doctrines. There are also those who claim they are Christian who reject all of Pauls writings as uninspired preaching his own religion.
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/apologe... 5 myths on 7 books.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-old-testam...
The reason the deuterocanonical books arenít in his bible is because Martin Luther threw them out. If the Jews rejected them which some did at the council in Jamnia in 90AD primarily because Christians were using them to bolster Jesus. They were in the Septuigant which Jesus and the Apostles used, but we dont see them objecting. Furthermore the Ethiopian Jews do have all the books today.
There are no councils which the stamp of approval the protestants deemed fit 1500 years later. Well Luthers bible was missing 4 more books for 200 years that Protestants deemed worthy. The Council of Rome in 382 under Pope Damasus included the 73 books we honor today. This canon was repeated at Hippo and Carthage (A.D.393 and 397)
Since Luther snidely wrote to the Pope paraphrased closely. "Why do you stare at the phrase faith alone like a cow stares at a gate? I know full well the word alone is not there, but it shall be so, because I Martin Luther will have it so. Pretty arrogant. In his bible he did add the word alone. However the only place where alone appears in conjunction with faith is when James says, "NOT by faith alone." Since paul used the word alone elsewhere not in relation to faith I see no reason why he would not have said it. He could not fit James and the other books into his new doctrines so he set out to discredit them.
Even accepting the books they do is an admission they accept the authority of the Catholic Church on which books were valid.
http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/deuteros...
I appreciate your bringing me up to par with this. I was completely in the dark about the issue. Also the Luther-Pope exchange is amazing.Great info re something I knew nothing about Thanks.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#407711 Dec 8, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>08Dec12.....
.....BobLoblah speaks to ALL you 'wannabee' Christians in da only language dat you unnastand.
You are a schidt-for-brains.
Ps:.....and den sum tooooooooo.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
~~~

SPEAKING OF FOREVER AND EVER,

HELL IS FOREVER AND EVER...AND ALL GATES SWING INWARDLY..

Rev_20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Rev_20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#407713 Dec 8, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="TheBlackSheep"
One would think! Several times in the bible, god made it clear to some very small group, that he existed. Never to a large group and never caught on film. Why?
Why will he not restore a limb?
Christians claim that god will not be tempted, yet many times, in the bible and in other non verifiable places, god did or was tempted and did show himself. Just never where we could verify it.
Urban legends are the same way,yet their are not willing to see it.
**********
A few years ago a group from Tennessee went to Bulgaria on a mission trip.
Most of them were college students. One of them video taped portions of the trip. In one church service a group of them prayed for a blind lady...and she was healed.
Later viewing the tape, they saw the group gathered around the blind lady as they were praying for her. But there was something in the picture that was astounding. Standing in back of the group was a man in a white robe. The interesting part was that He was larger than all of the people there...and no one had seen Him in the church. I saw the video, and had no problem knowing who He was.
KayMarie
~~~

I also saw the video....

If it had been a Catholic gathering ..they would have made a shrine

of the place where Christ appeared..and the picture broadcasted over the earth..

But To those that have the tape it is/was only visual conformation of the words of Jesus,

He said...

Mat_28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo,

==>I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. <==

Jesus also said,

Mat_18:20 For where two or three are gathered together

in my name,

there am I

in the midst of them.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#407714 Dec 8, 2012
The following verses help to clarify God's handling of our uneven ways. Iniquity is uneven ways; we sin in our pouty ways, we treat some people better than others. God says that He hates an uneven (unfair) scale, that weighs out a good measure to a favored one, but a skimpy measure to others. It is not as terrible as murder, but is offensive to God, nevertheless.

We all 'fall short of the glory of God', often we are unaware of how iniquitous (uneven) are our ways. God in mercy 'remembers that we are flesh', and if our hope is in Him, He does not count those 'sins of ignorance' against us. As with Abraham, He counts our faith in Him for righteousness, and does not impute that 'sin' against us.

This is not to say that He does not see our 'ways', nor to say that He does not care. Nor does it say that we should carelessly 'overlook' such ways in ourselves, but that He continuously leads us in ways of righteousness AS WE TRUST IN HIM.

Psa 130:3 If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities (uneven, unfair ways), O Lord, who shall stand?
Psa 130:4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.

If our heart trusts in Him, He will continue to cleanse us from all sin.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#407715 Dec 8, 2012
who="Christy Swanson" I am Catholic.
Being Catholic is difficult, but I believe in forgiveness.

**********

Why do you feel that it is difficult? Just curious.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#407716 Dec 8, 2012
who="G_O_D"
Mark and Matthew also quoted the Gospel of Thomas, often word for word.

**********

Mark and Matthew were written first. It was Thomas who quoted THEM if there is any similarity.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#407717 Dec 8, 2012
Christy Swanson wrote:
I am Catholic.
Being Catholic is difficult, but I believe in forgiveness.
Yes, evidently being Catholic ...must be difficult..

.there are so many calisthenics/rituals required.

Just Being a Christian is not so difficult..

It is so very simple TO RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR that one with the INTELLIGENT complex mind is hard put to accept it.

-->they just cannot COMPREHEND the simplicity of...SALVATION ...

that can be received so easily...

Jesus said

Mar_10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

Act_16:31 And they said,

--> BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED

and thy house..

or

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
----
AS FOR WORKS...

Joh 6:28 Then said they unto him/JESUS, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them,

This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

----------

I AM NOT SAYING THAT WORKS ARE NOT IMPORTANT OR UNNECESSARY..

BUT THEY DO NOT SAVE YOU...

WORKS ARE A LABOR OF LOVE .... WALKING WORTHY OF THE LORD

Col 1:10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing,

-->BEING FRUITFUL IN EVERY GOOD WORK,<--

and increasing in the knowledge of God;

Col 1:11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and long suffering with joyfulness;

Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Michael

Canada

#407718 Dec 8, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>08Dec12.....
..ListenUP 'sickaelBreath'....
....Vot you know about the Roman Catholic Church wouldn't fill a beanBag.
The Holy Roman Catholic Church is the kindest, most compassionate, and helpful group of people in the WholeWideWorld.
You really need to get outta yer backYard and travel da vorld a liddle bit.
Ps:.....BobLoblah is gonna 'arrange for our Father Merrin to visit your tiny room in the New Year.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Bob, you should ask you're priest if you can get up in the pulpit and speak once in awhile.

Catholics would be enlightened by your mild manners, and your ability to spell correctly.

You are an inspiration to all.
Gregg

Minneapolis, MN

#407719 Dec 8, 2012
Elizabeth wrote:
As someone who is catholic and was raised in the faith, I find this truly offensive that the Pope would make a statement like this. It is making me seriously consider leaving the church. As long as popele believe in God and the holy trinity, why does it matter whether they believe as catholics, methodists, lutherans, etc? I think Benedict has gone too far with this statement and I do believe it is going to hurt the catholic church in the long run.
God has no official religion. God looks for the light in us, no matter how faint and inhabits our heart and mind, even in the dim light we provide. Imagine what we, as a people could do if only our light would shine brighter, even a little bit.
Michael

Canada

#407720 Dec 8, 2012
Bob Loblaws says....

Michael says.....

....Hello Bob.... Did you ever complete learning all 26 letters of the alphabet? There is something peculiar about you, I just can't put my finger on it.



LTM

Geraldton, Canada

#407721 Dec 8, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="LTM"
Really?? did she use it for colds and flu's
baked onions sounds like something I would eat.
LOL
**********
Yes, she used them for chest congestion. Wrapped them in some cloth and put it under the shirt.
Sounds yummy.
KayMarie
Do you remember the hot mustard plasters, my Mother used that from colds to boils.

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