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[LTM]

Michael wrote:

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Hello LTM...
I could never get my mind around praying for the dead.
......If someone was bad, and sinful and now dead, what does praying do for them? Really? If 100 people pray for a dead soul is that better than 1 person praying for them?
If someone lived a good clean life and died, whats the point in praying for them?
When you pray for someone, how is that recorded? Does God read your mind that you are praying for them?
Its all rediculous!
......and BUSTED!
makes no common sense......

Hi Michael, I could never figure that one out myself, because the Bible clearly says we are not to pray to the dead.
Once someone is is dead it is to late to be good, your fate is sealed. Absent from the body is present with the Lord, if a person is in Christ, if not then they go to hell.
what else that doesn't make sense to me is these doomsday prophets, who predicted a certain day . The Bible clearly says No man knows the hours not even the son only the Father which is in Heaven.
I think its only a fear tactic.

[preston]

Anthony MN wrote:

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lol. Some of these folks think that Jesus spoke the King's English.
I'm sorry for her that she is suffering from brain tumors. The last thing I'd be doing with that kind of ailment would be trashing other faiths on a public forum. I think it may be making her issues worse.

I told gif that the other night but it went over his head.

and I agree with you, and also more important, the bible agrees with you, but unlike gif, I aint gonna beat her to death with what Jesus says about people like her.

the sad thing is that if a person lies about one thing, they may lie about other things too.

[Clay]

Michael wrote:

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CLAY says......
..Its my understanding, that Mary is a powerful powerful intercessor.
MICHAEL says....
...Battle of the intercessors!
..Muslims believe with all their hearts, according to the Quar'an 39:44 that ALL intercessors belong to ALLAH exclusively.
Clay says Muslims are wrong! Muslims say Christians are wrong?
Michael says, who really gives a shite!(lol)
UNBELIEVABLE!

You just found out through that internet thingy that Muslims and Christians disagree on religion huh?
Buhahaha.

[Anthony MN]

Michael wrote:

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Anthony, I found a mental health clinic for you. NO APPOINTMENTS NECESSARY!... Its close to home in Minneapolis.
http://www.bhs.umn.edu/east-bank-clinic/menta...
However, there is a waiting list.........take a number!!

Does anyone else hear the crickets chirping?

Get a new schtick Mike, it's tiresome. I know what...since you're so starved for attention, maybe you should try taking your wife on a vacation instead of speding all your time huddled around a computer trying to fill in for Rodney Dangerfield.

[Anthony MN]

LTM wrote:

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Hi Michael, I could never figure that one out myself, because the Bible clearly says we are not to pray to the dead.
Once someone is is dead it is to late to be good, your fate is sealed. Absent from the body is present with the Lord, if a person is in Christ, if not then they go to hell.
what else that doesn't make sense to me is these doomsday prophets, who predicted a certain day . The Bible clearly says No man knows the hours not even the son only the Father which is in Heaven.
I think its only a fear tactic.

LTM, Mike doesn't believe the bible is God's written word. Why would you be looking for agreement from him on what it says?

[TheBlackSheep]

Free Mind wrote:

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or....
5. They hate Jesus.

Yes! How many things, that you do not believe in, do you spend time hating?

[TheBlackSheep]

Truth wrote:

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Leviticus 25:39
39 “‘If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves.
These slaves (poor-without money, food, etc.) were to be treated well, workers/employees, not working him like you might want to work a slave.

Are you really that stupid or just playing around? I am serious! I cannot tell. You quote the bible, proving my point, and you act as if you out smarted me.

Treat them well, but if they piss you off, you can kill them. WTF?

OK, I talked myself into it. You are not stupid, you are just playing me! I was hoping that no one was really that stupid!

Then again, maybe you have a nurse standing by yelling, "BREATH!" every few seconds.

[TheBlackSheep]

Truth wrote:

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Freeing your slave
Deuteronomy 15:12
12 If any of your people—Hebrew men or women—sell themselves to you and serve you [six years,] in the seventh year you must let them go FREE.
Slave free after serving 6 years....
You must supply your slave before letting them go....
Deuteronomy 15:14
14 Supply them LIBERALLY from your flock, your threshing floor and your winepress. Give to them as the Lord your God has blessed you.
***Give to them as the Lord you God has BLESSED YOU.....

Odd how you left out the part about the slave's wife and children. They get to stay with the master, for life.

[4GVN]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Are your future sins already forgiven if you decide not to repent after you commit them?

No, Anthony, that is not the way it works. It is like this. I ask you a question, then you answer said question. You don't ignor it and ask another question. You can do it. It just seems to be very difficult for you. Try again.

[4GVN]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>have you noticed when she is caught in a lie, she uses her eyes or something else, as her excuse,
rather than admitting that she lied and was caught in her lies.
if I had to be that deceitful, I wouldnt be on this forum, since there are some that arent as ignorant as her and gif.still trying to be nice as you mentioned(sic).
oops, that is from that dead language, excuse me.lol

Did you know that gossiping is a sin, old woman?

[guest]

LTM wrote:

Well Clay changing the Ten Commandments of God is very serious, and they have been changed by the Catholic church like it or not it is a fact.
They are also in grieve sin of adding and subtracting from God's Holy Word.
The trutth is in the pudding Clay.
There is not place like purgatory, Mary is not Queen of Heaven you caatholic's do bow and pray to idols,(IMAGES OF MARY AND OTHER SAINTS SUPPOSITLY, THERE IS EVEN A STAUTE OF SUPPOSITLY JESUS ON THE CROSS AT THE FIRST OF THE CHURCH, PEOPLE BOW AND CROSS THEMSELVES IN FRONT OF IT AND PRAY AND TALK TO IT.
aRE YOU DENYING YOU DO THESE THINGS IF YOU DON'T GOOD FOR YOU,
BUT EVERY CATHOLIC I HAVE SEEN ENTER THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DOES THE SAME THINF.
THE ENTER THE CHURCH STICK THEIR FINGERS IN A URNAL OF HOLY WATER AND CROSS THEN SELVES WALK DOWN THE CHURCH AISLE CROSS THEM SELVE AND HALF KNEEL AND ENTER THE PEW KNEEL ON THE LITTLE BAR IN FRONT OF THEM IN THE PEW.
SEEN PEOPLE GO TO THE STATUES OF MARY AND THE SAINTS, KISS THEIR FEET LIGHT CANDLES AND KNEEL AND PRAY TO THE STATUES.
THIS IS WORSHIP IN ITS CLEAREST FORM CLAY . IT IS WORSHIP OF THE DEAD PEOPLE INSTEAD, OF BOWING BEFORE THE LIVING HOLY RIGHTIOUS UNSEEN GOD. WHO SEES YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING.
'THOU SHALL NOT MAKE FOR YOURSELF AND IDOLS OR ANY LIKENESS OF WHAT IS IN HEAVEN ABOVE OR THE EARTH BELOW OR BELOW THE EARTH OR UNDER THE WATERS OR BENETHE THE WATERS.
NOW WEATHER IF MARY IS IN HEAVEN OR IN THE EARTH BELOW, YOU HAVE A IMAGE OF HER YOU BOW TO AND PRAY, SAME WITH THE REST OF THE SAINTS.
IT IS FORBIDDEN BY GOD TO DO SO CLAY.
YOUR CATHOLIC LEADERS SAY ITS ALRIGHT TO BUT GOD SAYS ITS NOT, SO THEY ARE LYING AND CHANGING THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
CLAY I BELIEVE YOU TO BE A VERY GOD LOVING MAN, WHO WANTS TO SERVE THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN FOOLING A FALSE DOCTRINE. THE TRUTH IS IN THE VERY BOOK THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CLAIMS THEY GAVE THE WORLD, SO WHY AREN'T THEY OBEYING IT THEMSELVES??
THAT IS THE MILLIOM DOLLAR QUESTION CLAY.

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Anthony MN wrote:

I'm sure I would have no trouble locating a good mental health practitioner in Sault Ste. Marie. When would you be available for an appointment?

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Well aren't you the prize citizen, Anthony? Pretending to have the ability to accurately assess someone's mental health over the internet, and offering your services in locating a Mental Healthcare provider. If you would have no trouble locating one for LTM ...HOW COME YOU CAN'T SEEM TO FIND ONE FOR YOURSELF? Yeah, you should probably be more concerned for your own mental health. To think that you are so deeply entrenched in the delusions of the Catholic Church that anyone who proves you wrong needs mental health care? How delusional is that?
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It simply proves what a good Catholic you are! Fully indoctrinated and fully brainwashed into believing it is the JOB of the CATHOLIC church and the Pope to challenge and change God's Word as they see fit.
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Go figure!

[guest]

Anthony MN wrote:

I'm sure I would have no trouble locating a good mental health practitioner in Sault Ste. Marie. When would you be available for an appointment?

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Michael wrote:

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Anthony, I found a mental health clinic for you. NO APPOINTMENTS NECESSARY!... Its close to home in Minneapolis.
http://www.bhs.umn.edu/east-bank-clinic/menta...
However, there is a waiting list.........take a number!!

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NoooOOOooo .... Michael, please find him somewhere else to go where there is NO waiting list ... he needs to get in right away!

[Robert F]

4GVN wrote:

<quoted text>So tell me Robert,'How many of your sins did Jesus die for?" How many did He take upon Himself and carry to the cross. Was Jesus payment enough? Is there more to be paid? Can we in any way add to the sacrificial payment that Jesus made? And what did Jesus mean when He stated that "IT IS FINISHED?" If you want an honest dialog, please answer these questions.

My good friend 4GVN

I wish I could tell you in a few short words all Jesus did....

But if I can in short reply write that it was bythe fruit eaten from a tree that first brought sin into the world, so also the fruit of the cross, Jesus Christ, upon which, we have been given to eat, by God, and brings peace between God and man. And so, "It is finished."

Yet God's Mercy is even greater than what I could most humbly eat. For yet while I am a sinner, he has died for me. And this Holy Sacrifice, having done so, has made my salvation is assured. Yet I must not dwell on this salvation as something I deserve, but rather be transformed within, and become more like Jesus Christ, and follow him.

So to this end I work, that I might be more like Him, and I gladly bear my cross. Not that I add to what He has done, but in His Mercy, that He allows me to share in carrying my cross, suffering, and I can be crucified all the day long, that I might be more like Him, and all to the Glory of God the Father....

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Are your future sins already forgiven if you decide not to repent after you commit them?

Why do you worry about future sinning of others?

Shouldn't you be worried about your own Self at all times?

[Robert F]

Dust Storm wrote:

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Sanctification
2 Thessalonians 2:1313 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you [a]from the beginning for salvation [b]through sanctification [c]by the Spirit and faith in the truth.
Heb 12: 14 14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Rom. 5:3–5 But if our unrighteousness [a]demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say? The God who inflicts wrath is not unrighteous, is He?(I am speaking in human terms.)
Rev 21:27 27 and nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those [a]whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

Dust Storm
Peace

Thank you....I think we all should practice what we preach, and begin with purging our old ways, learning, and unifying ourself with God in all our ways....

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

Robert F wrote:

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Yet I must not dwell on this salvation as something I deserve, but rather be transformed within, and become more like Jesus Christ, and follow him.

I know what you mean Robert, but if you continue on the path you have set for yourself, it really looks like you've already rejected many of what Jesus taught.

Why do you contradict yourself and lie to others about how much you believe in Jesus?

Robert F wrote:

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So to this end I work, that I might be more like Him, and I gladly bear my cross. Not that I add to what He has done, but in His Mercy, that He allows me to share in carrying my cross, suffering, and I can be crucified all the day long, that I might be more like Him, and all to the Glory of God the Father....

You've got a long way to go, if you think putting your burdens upon Jesus will save you.

Take responsibility for your own actions, and then, maybe then, Jesus will "save" you.

[Clay]

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NoooOOOooo .... Michael, please find him somewhere else to go where there is NO waiting list ... he needs to get in right away!

You posted a cult link this morning falsely accusing the Catholic Church of removing parts of the ten Commandments. Then, LTM bought into it. I proved the Catholic Bible has the same amount as yours. I showed the catechism stating the commandments how they were given, removing nothing. I testified that I learned the Commandments in Catholic grade school exactly like the book of Exodus shows... Thus you are now guilty of violating the 9th commandment and creating a victim in LTM.
How can you possibly look Christ in the eye someday?

[4GVN]

Robert F wrote:

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My good friend 4GVN
I wish I could tell you in a few short words all Jesus did....
But if I can in short reply write that it was bythe fruit eaten from a tree that first brought sin into the world, so also the fruit of the cross, Jesus Christ, upon which, we have been given to eat, by God, and brings peace between God and man. And so, "It is finished."
Yet God's Mercy is even greater than what I could most humbly eat. For yet while I am a sinner, he has died for me. And this Holy Sacrifice, having done so, has made my salvation is assured. Yet I must not dwell on this salvation as something I deserve, but rather be transformed within, and become more like Jesus Christ, and follow him.
So to this end I work, that I might be more like Him, and I gladly bear my cross. Not that I add to what He has done, but in His Mercy, that He allows me to share in carrying my cross, suffering, and I can be crucified all the day long, that I might be more like Him, and all to the Glory of God the Father....

Welll Robert, I do agree with your post, but you have in no way answered my questions or adressed the issue.

[Clay]

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Well aren't you the prize citizen, Anthony? Pretending to have the ability to accurately assess someone's mental health over the internet, and offering your services in locating a Mental Healthcare provider. If you would have no trouble locating one for LTM ...HOW COME YOU CAN'T SEEM TO FIND ONE FOR YOURSELF? Yeah, you should probably be more concerned for your own mental health. To think that you are so deeply entrenched in the delusions of the Catholic Church that anyone who proves you wrong needs mental health care? How delusional is that?
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It simply proves what a good Catholic you are! Fully indoctrinated and fully brainwashed into believing it is the JOB of the CATHOLIC church and the Pope to challenge and change God's Word as they see fit.
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Go figure!

Your religion exist for one reason only. Ignorance.

You know it.

It can't survive unless you forgo all reason and logic and embrace deception. You get victims to join your cult by misusing the Holy Bible.
You make a living telling us Catholics what we believe. Amazing... I didn't think the latter was possible. You tell us what we believe?? Lol wow.

Get lost

[Clay]

LTM wrote:

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go read the catechism Clay and read what it teaches to school kids.

God forbidds it.

Ok LTM, I never ask for an apology. But I showed you official Catholic Teaching from the Vatican, in the Catechism. Its plain and simple what the Catholic Church teaches. They removed nothing from the ten commandment.
You fell victim to Guests cult pamphlet he posted.

The best thing for you is to confess you were wrong. If you don't, then you can't be forgiven for violating the 9th commandment!