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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 670458 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Michael

Canada

#406891 Dec 4, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>05Dec12.....
.....LIAR....
You remember nuttin' because you have schidt-for-brains.
You were Never a Roman Catholic. In fact, you were Never a Christian. You are jest a envious and jealous tempest in a teaPot.
Ps:.....Pope John XXIII began Vatical II. With it came the changes to the performing of Holy Mass. The congregation liked it as now they had a 'face-to-face' contact with the Priest as he carred out the 'Changing of the Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Chris'......something you pagans don't have the FAITH to understand.
Begone 'shataan' BobLoblah is goin' to send our Father Merrin to visit you in your tiny room von of dese deys toooooooo.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
BLOBLABLA....says

.......Pope John XXIII began Vatical II. With it came the changes to the performing of Holy Mass turning the altar around. The congregation liked it as now they had a 'face-to-face' contact with the Priest.

Michael says.....WOW!

So it took Pope John XXXIII from 1957 until 1962 how to figure out turning the altar around 180 degrees.....

Brilliant Bob!! no wonder the church changes so slowly! LOL!

Michael

Canada

#406892 Dec 4, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>lol, if you dont know,
you are already fooled.lol
I gave you a laughing judgie.

You have been on your best behavior today. I don't understand.

Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#406893 Dec 4, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Well now....WE WILL JUST WAIT AND SEE NOW ....WANT WE?
So far the Roman Catholic Church has 650 years of inquisition
murder,torture, burning at stake, theft of property ...later on..global sodomy...of Children,
pervert/homosexual activity, and just about every sin one can name...
Some how I do not believe God approves of such activity propagated in
His name...
Jesus spoke of the attributes of the one that does the a fore mentioned.
He said
John 10:10 PART A.... The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:
his attributes are
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
It is quite evident that the above are the attributes..of the thief..
___
The church that really represents Jesus Christ followers His attributes
Jesus said of Himself...
He discriminates against no one
for he said ...
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
JOHN10:10 part B
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
His attributes are
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24
NOTE....===> And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Again Jesus said
Mat_7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
No, I don't think God will overlook your intentional ignorance and false witness. If you think He will, again, good luck.
Live Action

Oklahoma City, OK

#406894 Dec 4, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
How about this.
The hirearchy demands their priests and nuns to NEVER MARRY and have CHILDREN so their assets will be willed back to the church.
On the other hand the hirearchy demands catholic followers to GET MARRIED and have LOTS OF BABIES so down the road more children means more money in the collection baskets.
.......and catholics can't see this!
They don't see anything but what they want to.
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#406895 Dec 4, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Michael"
What vatican II did, was "LIBERALIZE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH".
It made the church progressive not conservative.
.... Nuns running around in soccer shorts.
.... Priests telling parishioners to use their own conscience when making decisions on birth control and divorce, and not feel guilty for eating meat on fridays........I remember it well.
Speak any lanuguage you want when saying mass. Latin if you know it!
Vatican II.......the gamechanger.
**********
As long as the CC used the Latin language, their people could imagine that they were hearing about the glorious CC. But when it was done in common language, the 'mystery' was all gone. They understood what was being said, and their dreams were shattered.
KayMarie
What an ignorant remark. If this shatters your dreams, you're in worse trouble than I thought:

Sanctus, sanctus, sanctus Dóminus Deus Sábaoth. Pleni sunt coeli et terra glória tua. Hosanna in excelsis. Benedictus qui venit in nómine Dómini. Hosanna in excelsis.

Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.

Good luck, you're going to need it.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#406896 Dec 4, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Quit being so dramatic. It doesn't take much to set you off my friend. When your child does something seriously wrong, they are forgiven, but they still get their just punishment. They are still loved and after the punishment, it's all good.
"Now where there is forgiveness of these things, there is no longer any offering for sin." Hebrews 10:18. Our forgiveness is already complete; we do not need to be purified in purgatory!"
This is a common example of not only how Protestants misunderstand what Catholics mean by purgatory, but how they take a biblical verse out of context. First of all, that one offering for sin is Christ, and we all agree since we tie purgatory into the final phase of sanctification. Our forgiveness is complete in Christ and because of Christ's one offering, this is possible. There is no problem with the one offering or sacrifice, or the ongoing sanctification as an application of that one sacrifice (Hebrew 10:10-14; 1 John 1:7-9; 2:1-2).
But let us read Hebrews chapter 10 in context, and see if that sacrifice applies irrevocably forever to a believer:
16: "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds," 17: then he adds, "I will remember their sins and their misdeeds no more." 18: Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin. 19: Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the sanctuary by the blood of Jesus, 20: by the new and living way which he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, 21: and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22: let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith,.....
Rest here; http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a94.htm
**********
If my child is truly repentant, I will not punish him.
You spoke God's heart when you wrote: "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds," 17: then he adds, "I will remember their sins and their misdeeds no more."
If he/we continue in the sin, then correction will be used. But I won't put him in a dark closet and tell him horror stories, and have demons supposedly 'correcting' him.
KayMarie
Have you stopped sinning Kay?
Michael

Canada

#406897 Dec 4, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>he has aprofile, why dont you send him an email and if he will answer you, you will know the truth.
email him?? Are you Crazy?...... Because he is!

OK OK! I will believe you this time, but he sure has the same temperment that you have. I could have sworn you were Bob.

Free Mind

Eaton Park, FL

#406898 Dec 4, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Bill Donohue the one man band, catholic apologist, gets paid over $300,000 a year to yell at non catholics.
Someone needs to explain to this catholic apologist that having pictures of naked little girls on your computer is not a good thing for a priest.

Maybe the Vatican should be informed as well?
Michael

Canada

#406899 Dec 4, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
What an ignorant remark. If this shatters your dreams, you're in worse trouble than I thought:
Sanctus, sanctus, sanctus Dóminus Deus Sábaoth. Pleni sunt coeli et terra glória tua. Hosanna in excelsis. Benedictus qui venit in nómine Dómini. Hosanna in excelsis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.
Good luck, you're going to need it.
Regina Says.....

Sanctus, sanctus, sanctus Dóminus Deus Sábaoth. Pleni sunt coeli et terra glória tua. Hosanna in excelsis. Benedictus qui venit in nómine Dómini. Hosanna in excelsis.

Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.

Michael says.....

How long did it take you to copy/paste those words from the internet? You have a hard time with english on here, and now you're speaking fluent Latin.

UNBELIEVABLE!
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#406900 Dec 4, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Latin dialects became the Spanish, Portugese, Italian and French lanuages. Two thirds of the English language can be traced back to Latin. It may not look exactly the same as when it started, but it's the foundation of every 'Romance' language spoken in the west. In the same manner, all of the competing protestant denominations are simply cheap imitations of the original Church founded by Christ, the Catholic Church. You may think it's dead, but unfortunately at your age you'll be finding out sooner than most of us here. Good luck.
**********
Cheap imitation? Funny, it looks NOTHING like the CC. Counterfeits often are very difficult to distinguish from the original. Protestants make NO effort to copy the CC.
KM
Yes you do, your services are pale imitations of ours, you even took our bible and made yourselves the authority over it. And now you use it to beat us over the head with it.
Michael

Canada

#406901 Dec 4, 2012
Live Action wrote:
<quoted text>They don't see anything but what they want to.
I can't believe that catholics can't see through this, or maybe they do, but as usual they never speak up.

Priests and nuns told NEVER TO MARRY, NO CHILDREN.

Catholic lay people told YES! TO MARRY, AND HAVE LOTS OF CHILDREN.

Its not about tradition, its all about the $$$

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#406902 Dec 4, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Anthony MN.
Priests to speak out against their Bishop?? Is this something new?
http://www.tonyskansascity.com/2012/12/tkc-br...
Do you feel the "change" in the air?

Very refreshing.

;O)
Michael

Canada

#406903 Dec 4, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Someone needs to explain to this catholic apologist that having pictures of naked little girls on your computer is not a good thing for a priest.
Maybe the Vatican should be informed as well?
Bill Donohue has done more damage to the image of the church with his constant embarassing statements and rants..........and he gets paid BIG BUCKS to do this.

I should write to him telling him to keep up his good work. lol!

ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#406904 Dec 4, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>and lets not forget that Latin plays a large part in the medical field. when gif gets a prescription to be filled, it will be in Latin
Sola scriptura
Sola fide
Sola gratia
Solus Christus or Solo Christo
Soli Deo gloria

All Latin!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#406905 Dec 4, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
confrinting good friend
You are wrong....Purgatory is in the Bible. It is a process and not a place....
I Cor 3:11-15
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."
True Jesus is the foundation.
But we each are not Jesus, and so build, and are rebuilding ourselves according to God's Grace and Will into the likeness of Jesus....
If you think you perfectly fit that image, you may be surprised at how hot it will be when you are tried as by fire....since "every man's work" will be tried.....Purgatory. Plain and simple.
~~~~

Prugatory is not in the Bible...You cannot assume something into god's word that God has never placed there...

==>IF a Man dies a Christian...he needs no further perfecting..or purging...

for sin is not imputed to Him...HIS SINS have been forgiven ...placed under the BLOOD OF JESUS

NOTE
Rom 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

Rom 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Rom 4:9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.

Rom 4:10 How was it then reckoned?

when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision?

Not in circumcision,

but in uncircumcision.

Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision,

a seal of the righteousness of the faith

which he had yet being uncircumcised:

that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

Rom 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only,

but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.

Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath:

for where no law is, there is no transgression.

____

If a man dies a sinner...He will be judged before God and He will have no place of cleansing/purging after his death...

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

NOTE
Because he has rejected JESUS CHRIST AS HIS PERSONAL SAVIOR..

righteousness will not be imputed unto him...

.HE WILL SPEND ETERNITY IN HELL.

Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
junior d

Evansville, IN

#406906 Dec 4, 2012
Too bad there wrong.
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#406907 Dec 4, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
lol. "cleaning" means "attending".
I learned a little Latin in Catholic school, but it's amazing when you realize that so much of western language is derived from it. Look at science and mathematics, it's filled with it.
Quite true! As far as the Latin Mass goes, anyone who didn't understand the language had no problem because Missals back then had the English translation on the opposing pages. So much for those just nodding their heads as if they understood when they didn't. What a crock! Another fairy tale from the faux "former Catholic". I feel sorry for the gullible protestants who believe them.
Michael

Canada

#406908 Dec 4, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you feel the "change" in the air?
Very refreshing.
;O)


... Priests today! are getting fedup with being told what to do and when to do it, and when they have a complaint they are told by their bishops who wield all the power, to shut up and do your job.

Just over 1 year ago in the USA 27 catholic priests formed a UNION or ASSOCIATION. Most catholics are not aware of this. Calling themselves AUSCP. Today their numbers are close to 1,000 priests, and growing from over 130/195 dioceses in america. They want more autonomy in how the church is operated. They support the 47,000 nuns under investigation by the vatican. They want Vatican II to stay in place the way it is, the Pope wants changes.

All these interests they have, go against everything the vatican wants.

At some point all this is going to come to a head. The vatican is locked and loaded, and the AUSCP and the NUNS are circling the wagons. This LITTLE BIG HORN II battle will be huge.

American.... AUSCP....check this out.

http://www.uscatholicpriests.org/

Irish ACP.....check this out.

http://www.associationofcatholicpriests.ie/



7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#406909 Dec 4, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The ONLY reason that you are on this forum is because of your own Protestant "insecurity" - with a hatefilled compulsion to attack the historically and biblically TRUE CHRISTIANS (who are Catholic) and their SALVATION and FAITH that is manifested in Jesus Christ, through and in his One True Catholic Church. "Proof positive" that people like you, Confrinting, Orville and other bible only (half-truth Christians)
"cannot exist" on your own beliefs without "spreading lies, heresy and false gossip against THE TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church. Heretics and false teachers have come and gone for over 2000 years YET--THE CHURCH HAS--AND WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE ON!!
Hey I have dog that will roll over on command and he sit up pretty to when he wants ATTENTION etc.!!!

Not a big fan of kept birds in a cage but each to their own........<snicker>
Michael

Canada

#406910 Dec 4, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~~
Prugatory is not in the Bible...You cannot assume something into god's word that God has never placed there...
==>IF a Man dies a Christian...he needs no further perfecting..or purging...
for sin is not imputed to Him...HIS SINS have been forgiven ...placed under the BLOOD OF JESUS
NOTE
Rom 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Rom 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Rom 4:9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Rom 4:10 How was it then reckoned?
when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision?
Not in circumcision,
but in uncircumcision.
Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision,
a seal of the righteousness of the faith
which he had yet being uncircumcised:
that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Rom 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only,
but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath:
for where no law is, there is no transgression.
____
If a man dies a sinner...He will be judged before God and He will have no place of cleansing/purging after his death...
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
NOTE
Because he has rejected JESUS CHRIST AS HIS PERSONAL SAVIOR..
righteousness will not be imputed unto him...
.HE WILL SPEND ETERNITY IN HELL.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
....Catholics say YES to Purgatory.
....Protestants say NO to Purgatory.

....Catholics say yes to Jesus COUSINS.
....Protestants say yes to Jesus BROTHERS.

....Catholics say YES to perpetual virginity of Mary.
....Protestants say NO to perpetual virginity of Mary.

The man written book of confusion. The bible.

... Both Catholics and Protestants both use the EXACT same man written books the BIBLE "endorsed by the same holy spirit" to prove each others, own conflicting doctrines.

Maybe if God had actually written this Bible instead of fallable men, everyone would be "One big happy family"



....People wonder why I opted out of religion?



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