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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 675561 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405777 Nov 29, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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TBS
I don't quite agree. I think atheists are fools, but not stupid.
Its when they are stupid and fools that they become dangerous.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ATHEIST

one either serves God or the devil

there is no such thing as a neutral stance.

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405778 Nov 29, 2012
Father Free Mind wrote:
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I agree.
I may not understand the morality behind it, but if the Bible is unerring, then I must agree.
Now I just have to rationalize the (supposed) immorality of slavery and why neither Father nor Son spoke out against it.
I can do that.
Welcome back FFM.

Your words are always so encouraging.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405779 Nov 29, 2012
Michael wrote:
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ReginaM. Says.......
.....And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose,[53] And coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the holy city, and appeared to many.
Let me get this right. Saints are ones who follow Christ. So who could have died or been dead already in their graves, who had followed christ? Lets not forget according christian writers Jesus died a Jew just 3 days before.
If you were in a cemetary today and zombies started coming out of their graves would you believe it, or would you give your head a shake?
You said the dead saints appeared to many. Who were these witnesses? Not one testimony from anyone, named in the scriptures of who they were and what they saw. Anyone can write anything and say 500 or 50,000 people witnessed something, but when you give names of who they were, and what they claimed to see that kind of helps the credability along wouldn't ya think?(lol)
I could say I saw dead people walking and there were 200 people with me who saw it too, would you believe me?
I could write better fiction.(lol)
~~~

You wrote

"I could write better fiction.(lol)"

YOU HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB AS A NOVEL AUTHOR SO FAR...

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405780 Nov 29, 2012
Truth wrote:
POWERFUL SCRIPTURE HERE:
Ezekiel 18:26
26 If a <<<righteous> >> person ~~~TURNS~~~ from their righteousness and COMMITS SIN, they will DIE for it; because of the sin they have committed they will die.
Lots of meaning in this scripture people....
We all die.

And if this passage is true, then you will be dying shortly for the lies you have told on this forum about me.

When it occurs - may you rest in peace, and I'll look for you in line.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405781 Nov 29, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Are you a "cutter"?
If not, please begin today, to become "as Christ".
Maybe a good cat-and-nine-tails is a better choice for you?
How 'bout carrying a cross around the block a couple of times, and then up a hill?....in no sandals and minimal clothes?!
You have no idea what "being Christ-like" is about.
But you'll praise him for doing these tasks, and then claim you are part of him.
Play it out "half-Christian".... ..you seem good at this game.
~~~

YOU WROTE

"Play it out "half-Christian".... ..you seem good at this game."

BEING A HALF CHRISTIAN..

is like being half pregnant..

it is impossible.

You either are ...or you aint!
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#405782 Nov 29, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Which brings us back around full circle to the issue os WHAT IS THE GOSPEL. Can you lay it out for me? That is probably the area of misunderstanding.
No we haven't come full circle. There is no misunderstanding on my part. If I say that the gospel is the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ, what do you think that would mean to someone who's never heard it before?

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Albuquerque, NM

#405783 Nov 29, 2012
Chuck wrote:
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Lets look at this shall we Clay.
You said: "Deliberate ignorance is a form of deceit".
Deliberate means - done consciously and intentionally
Now look at this:
Ignorance means - lack of knowledge
***I guess I have to ask...what the heck does deliberate ignorance mean?
Being a so-called "Christian".

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405784 Nov 29, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
ReginaM. Says.......
.....And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose,[53] And coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the holy city, and appeared to many.
Let me get this right. Saints are ones who follow Christ. So who could have died or been dead already in their graves, who had followed christ? Lets not forget according christian writers Jesus died a Jew just 3 days before.
If you were in a cemetary today and zombies started coming out of their graves would you believe it, or would you give your head a shake?
You said the dead saints appeared to many. Who were these witnesses? Not one testimony from anyone, named in the scriptures of who they were and what they saw. Anyone can write anything and say 500 or 50,000 people witnessed something, but when you give names of who they were, and what they claimed to see that kind of helps the credability along wouldn't ya think?(lol)
I could say I saw dead people walking and there were 200 people with me who saw it too, would you believe me?
I could write better fiction.(lol)
One dead man walking is enough for me...I don't need the other 199
to convince me of Gods eternal love and power

Across the parking lot from our Church ...is a man that was medically dead for nine minutes..that was shocked by the paddles 19 times.

Up walking around and very much alive.

One of these days you will need the one that restored Terrys life

God has done nothing to you but love you...

Why do you abuse Him?
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#405785 Nov 29, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting. Then what do you believe was the state of the RCC during the reign of these ungodly men? Do you believe that a non-christian is indwelt with the holy Spirit? Do you believe that the Holy Spirit guides lost people? Do you believe that one of these lost,unchristian people could be the 'VICAR of CHRIST'?
Why is it interesting that there were bad popes? There are bad evangelical leaders who say they're saved.

I've asked you this before, but you refused to answer; if an evangelical preacher is having an adulterous affair with one of his congregants, does that mean the gospel he preaches on Sunday is false?

The Church is guided by the Holy Spirit, these men WITHIN the Church were sinners like all of us. While their actions were sinful, the Church has always taught the gospel faithfully.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405786 Nov 29, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
TBS
I don't quite agree. I think atheists are fools, but not stupid.
Its when they are stupid and fools that they become dangerous.
You realize that one can say the same thing about so-called "Christians", right?

Most so-called "Christians" aren't stupid, but foolish. But many are stupidly foolish - in which they become dangerous.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/28/s...

BTW Robert - I'm still waiting on an answer to where "God" said Gnosticism is heresy.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405787 Nov 29, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you a "cutter"?
If not, please begin today, to become "as Christ".
Maybe a good cat-and-nine-tails is a better choice for you?
How 'bout carrying a cross around the block a couple of times, and then up a hill?....in no sandals and minimal clothes?!
You have no idea what "being Christ-like" is about.
But you'll praise him for doing these tasks, and then claim you are part of him.
Play it out "half-Christian".... ..you seem good at this game.
~~~
You wrote

"Maybe a good cat-and-nine-tails.."

Speaking of cats and tails..

One of my great grands ...has a cat that has it tail cut off..

Could you recommend a good retail store that we could take it to?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405788 Nov 29, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ATHEIST
one either serves God or the devil
there is no such thing as a neutral stance.
Now here is the voice of Christianity - OBEY IT!!

LOL

GiF - why do you like living this way - supporting opposition, discourse, and hatred of others?

You surely aren't being "Christ-like".

But then again, I've never really thought of you or your wife as a "Christian".
- think they know the mind of "God"
- always telling others [Catholics] that they are wrong
- Not believing in what Jesus taught - completely

Yep - welcome to the world of "non-Christianism".

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405789 Nov 29, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
"Play it out "half-Christian".... ..you seem good at this game."
BEING A HALF CHRISTIAN..
is like being half pregnant..
it is impossible.
You either are ...or you aint!
....and like I said in my last post - your aren't.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405790 Nov 29, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You wrote
"Maybe a good cat-and-nine-tails.."
Speaking of cats and tails..
One of my great grands ...has a cat that has it tail cut off..
Could you recommend a good retail store that we could take it to?
Sorry, no I can't.

You do realize that some cat's don't have tails, it's the way it is....

http://www.bing.com/images/search...
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#405791 Nov 29, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Then what does baptism do? And what does gaurantee salvation?
"Then what does baptism do?"

985 Baptism is the first and chief sacrament of the forgiveness of sins: it unites us to Christ, who died and rose, and gives us the Holy Spirit.

1279 The fruit of Baptism, or baptismal grace, is a rich reality that includes forgiveness of original sin and all personal sins, birth into the new life by which man becomes an adoptive son of the Father, a member of Christ and a temple of the Holy Spirit. By this very fact the person baptized is incorporated into the Church, the Body of Christ, and made a sharer in the priesthood of Christ.

1280 Baptism imprints on the soul an indelible spiritual sign, the character, which consecrates the baptized person for Christian worship. Because of the character Baptism cannot be repeated (cf. DS 1609 and DS 1624).

"And what does gaurantee salvation?"

We are not "guaranteed" salvation, we have confindence in Christ's promise of salvation.

" "As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:58), but Im also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:910, 1 Cor. 3:1215). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:1113)." "

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#405792 Nov 29, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
THE SACRIFICE OF ANIMALS and their blood was a foreshadow/type of the sacrifice of the Blood of Jesus ..
After Jesus was sacrificed upon Calvary's cross there is no need for any more sacrifice of animals.
When Adam and Eve sinned in the garden they became aware.knowledgeable of what sin is.
God killed an animal to make them coats..
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
___
From that time forth (until Jesus died on the cross (and became the supreme sacrifice)... there were animal sacrifices made when a man wanted to communicate with God..
When Jesus died he opened up a continual communication between man and God
NOTE
Animal blood only covered sin..FROM ONE DAY OF ATONEMENT TO THE NEXT...
.THE BLOOD OF JESUS ERADICATES SIN.
CONCERNING THE SACRIFICES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Heb 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
NOTE
Heb 9:28 So CHRIST was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many;
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without
sin unto salvation.
Heb_10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
GIF,I know that once our Lord died that His death put an end to the animal sacrifice.

What I was wondering is,why do the Jews not sacrifice animals now?

They do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah.
They still go by the Levitical laws as far as food and such.

Yet,they don't sacrfice like they did back then.

Well,I looked this up just now.

The Torah continues: "Watch yourself! Lest you bring your burnt elevated offerings in any place you see fit. Only in the place that the Lord will choose, somewhere from among your tribes, there shall your bring your burnt elevated offerings, and there you must do all that I command you concerning this." (Deut 12:13-14)

Thus, once King Solomon completed and dedicated the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, animal sacrifices were offered only in the Temple. It would be a sin to offer sacrifices in any other place. And once the Temple was destroyed in 70 CE, no more animal sacrifices were offered.

http://judaism.about.com/od/abcsofjudaism/f/s...

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#405793 Nov 29, 2012
Michael wrote:
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I am not a socialist, I am a capitalist. Strike 1.
You say we are not a species, so then you believe that homo-sapiens as we are have always existed and there never were Neandrathal, or homo erectus, prior to our current position? Is that what you are saying?
Robert says.....
Why do Muslim countries ban it, communist countries, crush it out, socialism try to neutralize it.
Michael says...
All religious people in america should be joyful in celebrating the fact that we live in a secular society that allows all religious people to practice their religion and those that have no religion in peace without fearing imposition of someone elses belief upon them. This would not be allowed in a theocracy. The catholic church itself is a theocracy.
Example, women are allowed to attend and participate in catholic church traditions and customs but ARE NOT ALLOWED to create or participate in any policy making whatsoever in church papal documents, canon laws, or rules and regulations pertaining to the catholic church. I can't believe that TODAY we still have some women that submit to this archaeic theocracy way of thinking. American catholic nuns themselves have been most vocal on this policy, as have the NEWLY formed roman catholic american priest association AUSCP.
When the most holy of catholics priests and nuns start questioning the authority of the roman catholic church, it is clear that there are many deep seated serious issues within the walls of the church.
Most american catholics and many priests believe celebacy should be optional. Many roman catholics believe women could be ordained priests. The pope screams NO!
Movements around the world have catholics wanting more autonomy within the churh and that lay people have more say on who their parish priest and bishop is.
Big changes are coming, and its the people in the pews who want the changes.
Michael good friend

This is where we differ in our world view.

You say you are a capitalist. OK....

But you live in a democracy, and that is why you "tolerate" religous, and non-religous people. Democracy is rule by majority(and it is "supposed" to respect the inalienable rights of all its citizens). But when that majority oversteps itself and becomes a dictatorship of the masses problems occur. That is what is happening in this country concerning religous people being forced to provide services for contraception(abortion). It is coming out more and more that we are in a dictatorship of ignorant people being led by a kind of elite. Christians, and especially Catholics are in the front line of this battle, as usual, and will suffer for it.

Also you have been secularized in your thinking into believing that men and women are objects..., equal objects, instead of persons with different functions in the world. That is why you cheer women's equality in the Church, or you think it should be that way, and want to believe big changes are coming....,(lol). Believe me, it is never going to happen in the RCC that women will be priests, just like men are not nuns. You have this idealized secularist thinking that sounds right, but you miss the point, men and women are different, and have different roles to play in Creation. Each of them is very sacred. And some secular idealism isn't going to get into the sacred, no matter who tries, or for how long.

Thirdly you think the RCC is a theocracy. It is not. In ancient times, Israel was once a theocracy. The RCC is a misnomer, as it tries to describe the Church as being catholic(universal), One, and Holy, and Apostolic...,the universal body of Christians. The name Rome comes in play as it is Rome that is the center for bishops, which was resisted by England....The Pope is the head bishop over the Holy See (Apostolic Bishop), with an earthly location in Rome.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405794 Nov 29, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, no I can't.
You do realize that some cat's don't have tails, it's the way it is....
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
I don't use links...unless it is BOB EVENS SAUSAGE..

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405795 Nov 29, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
GIF,I know that once our Lord died that His death put an end to the animal sacrifice.
What I was wondering is,why do the Jews not sacrifice animals now?
They do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah.
They still go by the Levitical laws as far as food and such.
Yet,they don't sacrfice like they did back then.
Well,I looked this up just now.
The Torah continues: "Watch yourself! Lest you bring your burnt elevated offerings in any place you see fit. Only in the place that the Lord will choose, somewhere from among your tribes, there shall your bring your burnt elevated offerings, and there you must do all that I command you concerning this." (Deut 12:13-14)
Thus, once King Solomon completed and dedicated the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, animal sacrifices were offered only in the Temple. It would be a sin to offer sacrifices in any other place. And once the Temple was destroyed in 70 CE, no more animal sacrifices were offered.
http://judaism.about.com/od/abcsofjudaism/f/s...
I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ..

Need to go out...
Michael

Canada

#405796 Nov 29, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
TBS
I don't quite agree. I think atheists are fools, but not stupid.
Its when they are stupid and fools that they become dangerous.
Hello Robert.

Robert says.

...I don't quite agree. I think atheists are fools.

Michael says...

Why would you make a blanket statement about people you know nothing personally about and ONLY because they don't accept the belief of a deity? Most I am sure live productive lives, follow the laws of the land, just like you, but just because they decided or their families decided that they had no belief in a higher power how does that make them fools?

Kind of arrogant for someone to make such a statement when you can't verifiably prove what you believe is true. Its a belief, and that is all it is.

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