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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 649748 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405611 Nov 28, 2012
who="Pad" Continued to Kay Marie.I was very troubled by the fact that every Catholic I met at that time saw things as their church being the only true church because of the cultural aspect.
I of course knew that there were spiritual reasons for the existance of any church that seeks to serve God.But my wife and I were surrounded by those people in the Catholic Church who found no pleasure in being with those who were active in relationship oriented faith in Christ.The people we knew hired a belly-dancer to entertain the priest who was going to leave that particular parish we were in. I knew when we went to the meeting to set up the going away party for the priest,we were in the wrong place.Nothing was said or done in a manner that I knew as an evangelical Christian,my wife was disgusted with the fact that the committee sought to hire a belly dancer,and whatever.Booze was also to be part of the festivities.
It was too gone for me as I had been quite far down the road of evangelical life,having gone to a Bible College and being around evangelicals for years.I did not understand that there were cultural Catholics,my wife was not involved with evangelicals as long as me,but now she is well immersed in the same,and will never look in another direction for praise,worship and fellowship.
All her relatives are staunch cultural catholics,not one of them except one cousin even remotely has a clue as to what the Bible says about Grace,or the Cross,they hear it at the mass,but they want nothing to do with it in their church or their social lives.They are all liberals,and talk very freely about how much they do not like this present pope or the one previous.Even the father who is now dead,spoke to me one time about how much he does not agree at all with Pope John Paul 2.But yet he attended mass every sunday.He supported abortion rights,and was a staunch Democrat.The priest at his funeral said of him that he was a wonderful Christian,father,husband,and a real example of a Christian in action. I am not judging him,but it is so typical of so many who are in a system that perpetuates ritual and observances,rather than to seek a personal relationship with the very Creator who gave them life to begin with.
Its a long story,but the truth is we all need to be converted,it does not get anymore plainer than that.Told tell me your church is the only true one,and totally forget to tell me that Jesus is the ONE I need to be converted to.It is so important that we know Him!

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Hmmmmmmmmm... Party for a priest...with belly dancers and booze??? What are they saved from? No preacher I've ever known would be involved with such as that.
Imagine Jesus at such a party !!! Imagine your MOTHER AND DAD at such a party! My mother and dad would be running the other way. I wonder what they call 'godliness'???

Give me JESUS.
KayMarie
preston

Athens, OH

#405612 Nov 28, 2012
Prince Helmut Pipke wrote:
<quoted text>
What insanities are you talking about?
how many pipes did you smoke before posting?
you have me confused with marge.

my post was addressed to Chuck and he knew every word that I was talking about
dr of theology

United States

#405613 Nov 28, 2012
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you hate when someone opens their piehole about someone else's conversation that they know nothing about....me too.
He was talking to me about the Ohio State/Michigan game...good gravy why am I wasting my time. I'll never get this time of my life back.
Who the heck cares about some candy asss college games? thats like sissy stuff.Join the real world and watch the NFL pal.Then maybe you can get some of that missing time back.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405614 Nov 28, 2012
Pad wrote:
The next Pope of the RCC will be a unique one to say the least.He will have to either be one who will continue to promote the authentic gospel o f Christ,or he will be a political mesh of varied factions,knowing how to sound like a Christian,but yet at the same time leading his church into the one world church,the Bible symboizes in the Book of Revelation.
Roman Catholicism wants so much to be the only one,true magnificent in splendor and so on,and it will have its chance to once again politically stand before all the world.
Will it have its rites,one liberal and one evangelical and seek to immesh both into one pot? You Catholics better be aware of what is going on in your church,you get disgusted with us who are outside,but I wonder how much you really know is going on within your beloved organization.It is the largest so called Christian institution,and it is well known for its political savvy,how interesting to watch what it does in the pressure of this sick world?
It is so important that the Catholics are aware of the divide within their own institution of God.They are so quick to tell us believers that the Bible although Holy is just a Book that we can use as a resource as it were,but the very Book speaks of mixing oil with water,darkness and light,sin and grace.All of us have to be alert,but the Catholics not only have their souls to watch for,but their church as well that either may lead them to heaven or to H E L L.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_...

According to this prophecy, there will be one more and then "the end".

112 Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405615 Nov 28, 2012
wilderide wrote:
Of course the Roman Catholic church says it is the only true church. Pretty much every religious sect makes that claim. That's why religion can never bring peace, and will always be at war with itself and everyone else.
WB wilderide - good to see ya posting!
Fr Robert Dye

Tulsa, OK

#405616 Nov 28, 2012
Clay wrote:
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What? The Church is talking about moving Confirmation to about 7 yrs old? I don't think I like that idea. Although, I definitely knew right and wrong at that age... It still seams too young. I think the kids would be pressured to much to participate in it.
Are you for it?
Not especially.
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I will go whichever way my bishop decides. My understanding is that the Holy See is leaving that decision to the local ordinary for now.
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I would guess they will take another look at it in about 20 years or so, and set some rule then.
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If it really was once a pert of baptism, then we should probably follow the Orthodox and Eastern practice, and confirm infants.
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On the other hand, if it was originally considered part of the bishop's job to confirm at the time of baptism, then preserving it as the bishop's responsibility, even if it has to be delayed some, would be the way to go.
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I don't have a horse in this race.
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Rob

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405617 Nov 28, 2012
who="Pad"God knows how much I agree with you.You know Kay Marie when I accepted Christ in 68 and than went into the army,I met so many believers,and many were of various groups and denominations.But youknow when all was said and done,we learned to get along with Jesus as our common denominator.Jesus makes the difference,and that is the unity in His Spirit,which is initiated by the Lord Himself,and He alone.Who knows better how to unify His body,than Christ! Right?
I was raised Roman Catholic,and came out of that church in the late 60s,but went back when married in 79,we stayed 5 years and had both of our babies baptized by two different priests.Our older members of the families we came from were so blessed,it was so nice.But my wife and I found that the RCC was not the place for us in the long run,we found another church,and our children both know the Lord,and are walking with Him.Cont.
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Wonderful. Thanks for sharing. There is nothing like a living faith in a living Savior. Fellowship with others is grand, but without Him, all else is empty.

KayMarie
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#405618 Nov 28, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
4GVN "has a need" to insult us Catholics because that is the "only thing" that he and other Protestants (on this forum) MUST RELY upon, in hoping to keep his "bible only boat" from sinking! They have "NOTHING ELSE TO STAND ON!...It is "predicated upon" quoting bible verses and then attacking, condemning and judging the personal faith and salvation of ANY and ALL Christians.(especially Catholics).... I know the bible only Protestant game (oh--so very well)---Clay-- after living it for over 35 years! It is a game of mis-quoting, and mis-interpreting the bible (laced) with anti-catholicism, heresy and deception!! We as Catholics must stay committed to keeping our Protestant "bothers and sisters in Christ" --in prayer each day, that they will come to the TRUTH of TRUE Salvation in Christ--in and through His One True Catholic Church..----God's Blessing to you and your family, Clay, in this coming week of Advent AND during the Christmas Season!
Thanks HoJo. Hope you and your family have a good and Blessed Advent!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#405619 Nov 28, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
The Love of God
The love of God is greater far than tongue or pen can ever tell.
It goes beyond the highest star, and reaches to the lowest hell.
The love of God is rich and pure; it's measureless and strong...
It shall forever more endure, the saints and angels song.
Could we with ink the ocean fill, and were the sky of parchment made,
Were every stalk on earth a quill (writing pen),
and every man a scribe by trade,
To write the love of God above would drain the ocean dry,
Nor could the scroll contain the whole, though stretched from sky to sky.
Tell that to the slaves that were murdered and the master not punished for the murder.

Does your god love only the owners and not the property?
preston

Athens, OH

#405620 Nov 28, 2012
here is another tragedy caused by false doctrine.

look and learn.
Man says prayer group leader told him to kill wife
By BILL DRAPER
Associated Press
By BILL DRAPER The Associated Press
Updated: 2012-11-28T13:40:10Z

The Kansas City Star, Keith Myers, File
FILE - In this Nov. 13, 2012, file photo, Micah Moore, 23, right, is escorted into the Jackson County Courthouse Annex in Independence, Mo., for his murder charge in the death of 27-year-old Bethany Ann Deaton. Moore is scheduled for a preliminary hearing on a first-degree murder charge Wednesday, Nov. 28, 2012.
KANSAS CITY, Mo.-- Less than three months after he stood as a groomsman in the wedding of two friends he had known since college in Texas, Micah Moore walked into a suburban Kansas City police department and unloaded a dark secret: He had taken the woman's life at the request of her new husband, a charismatic prayer group leader.
Police said Bethany Deaton's death initially appeared to be a suicide. Officers found a note and empty bottle of over-the-counter pain medication along with her body in a minivan parked by a lake on Oct. 30.
It wasn't until Moore confessed nearly two weeks later that police announced she had been killed. He is scheduled for a preliminary hearing on a first-degree murder charge Wednesday.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/28/3937587/...

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We also believe that signs and wonders, as well as all the gifts of the Spirit described in the New Testament, are operative today and are designed to testify to the presence of the kingdom and to empower and edify the Church to fulfill its calling and mission.(Mt. 3:11; Jn. 1:12–13, 3:1–15; Acts 4:29–30; Rom. 8:9, 12:3–8; 1 Cor. 12:12–13; 2 Cor. 1:21–22; Gal. 3:1–5; Eph. 1:13–14, 5:18)

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#405621 Nov 28, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
I am reading the Bible. My Father is not the monster that you describe. My God...the God of the Bible...IS a loving father. He 'sends' no one to a lake of fire. He tells us how to miss that...
KayMarie
He tells them how to miss it!?!? Are you insane? When did god tell the Chinese? The Australian Aborigines? The Mayans? And so on...

Who do you get to heaven? Only through the son, right? How many people in the world have never heard of the son? Stop being so stupid!

Who would be nasty enough to put a lake of fire around their beloved children?

The path to heaven is narrow!

Really, just sit back and think about how stupid your beliefs really are.

god loves me so much, that he put me in the right country, at the right time, with the right parents, to make me a christian! But god does not love Wang! He put Wang in the wrong country, during the wrong time in history, with non-christian parents.

Why are you so special, so well taken care of and Wang is damned to hell?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#405622 Nov 28, 2012
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Got bored on the atheist's forum eh wildride. Welcome...we'll learn ya!!!
What bring peace wildride....God hating liberals???
I am not a liberal and I don't hate your god or unicorns.

The lack of war creates peace!

As an Atheist, I have no god or book telling me to murder non-believers. I was never told to murder an entire village because one person did not believe.

I was never instructed to own slaves or told that I may kill my slaves and not be punished as a murderer.

It is your god who demands these things of you!
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#405623 Nov 28, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a liberal and I don't hate your god or unicorns.
The lack of war creates peace!
As an Atheist, I have no god or book telling me to murder non-believers. I was never told to murder an entire village because one person did not believe.
I was never instructed to own slaves or told that I may kill my slaves and not be punished as a murderer.
It is your god who demands these things of you!
Not really

So why are you so against murder?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#405624 Nov 28, 2012
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really
So why are you so against murder?
Not really? You don't read the bible!

Why am I against murder? Let's pretend that you sincerely need an answer for that.

1. I don't want to be murdered.
2. I don't want my family to be murdered.
3. I don't want my friends to be murdered.
4. I don't want people I know to be murdered.
5. I don't want strangers to be murdered.

Oh! You wanted me to say, cause god said not to murder, right? But then I can quote many parts of the bible were your god demanded that people be murdered.

The bible is cool! You can justify any horror that you want, just by knowing the proper verse, from the proper translation.

Sadly, so can everyone else.
Michael

Canada

#405625 Nov 28, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Michael
Why do you hate Christianity?
Because you follow the world.
The world hates Christ.
In the world today, post-modern, everything is relative. You hate Christianity because it is not post-modern, and seek to destroy it.
Post-modern thought may have a little ways to go, but as the world gets farther from God and the result will be destruction, in the ashes will be the embers of Christ, and Christians. You will not succeed.
Robert says......

The world hates Christ.

Michael says.....

Thats a big leap! Why do you say the world hates Christ?

I post information and I ask questions. Whats wrong with that? Why do you get your back up when religions are challenged or questioned? All religions are only beliefs, not one has been proven factual with undisputable evidence. Any other facet of your life, you ROBERT ask questions, you Robert seek information and you make your own personal decision based on weighing all the facts.

For you to say someone hates Christ and it bothers you than you must hate anyone who isn't Christian and doesn't accept your theology.

Its a big world and there are many beliefs. There is no need to get angry because somene doesn't see the world according to your thinking, no more than I expect everyone to see the world through my eyes.
ree Minbd

Eaton Park, FL

#405626 Nov 28, 2012
wilderide wrote:
Of course the Roman Catholic church says it is the only true church. Pretty much every religious sect makes that claim. That's why religion can never bring peace, and will always be at war with itself and everyone else.
Every Christian denomination does NOT make that claim.

Every religious sect does NOT make that claim.

But you are close on the last part.
Michael

Canada

#405627 Nov 28, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Michael"
DustStorm....
If Christ performed the miracles the new testament describes, if he fed exactly 5,000 people from a few crumbs and a piece of fish, if he made a blind man see and lets not forget the other 35 miracles that are in the new testament, why a very short time later, would the people want him crucified? Why would a civilized people for the jews from that era were civilized were so filled with hate towards a kind and loving mand who only went about doing good and preached forgiveness (as only the scriptures claim) that the jews would not be appeased until they crucified the noblest benefactor of mankind?
Thousands of jews miraclized, and thousands more witnessed these great gifts, and tens of thousands followed this man around and watched him speak (only the scriptures claim) yet at the crucifixion no one showed up to support him?
makes no common sense...
something is terribly wrong!
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You should study human nature...and the Bible...a bit more closely. You need look no further than our current world to see 'why'. The common people of Jesus' day followed Him. But He shook up the power grabbers at the top. They feared that He would usurp their place, or that He would bring down the Romans on them (they too would fear losing power).
He did not go to the cross alone...though most of His friends "stood afar off" for fear. The apostles locked themselves in the Upper Room for fear. Multitudes of the common folk either had not heard (they didn't have TV), or they were afraid for their own lives.
I'm sure that in your church connections of the past...and likely in your present business associates...you have seen those who would strike out at someone that was more talented than themselves. That is how some keep their 'power'.
KayMarie
KayMarie says......

The apostles locked themselves in the Upper Room for fear.

Michael says....

The same apostles that locked themselves in fear, a very short time later who are not fearful anymore, out and about preaching to the very people they were hiding from in fear in the first place.

Apostles that hid in fear for their own lives, yet scriptures claim a short time later they are martyring themselves.

are you fearful, or aren't you?



Remember you put all your faith in what these scriptures say. The scriptures that we were told were inspired once by God, and then the catholic fathers got a hold of them and edited them again! inspiring them a second time. I would believe if God inspired the first writings, then what would be the need to re-inspire them differently from what God did originally?

makes no common sense.
Michael

Canada

#405628 Nov 28, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible does not error! It may, at times, seem to contradict itself but that is because those "self-interpreting teachers, preachers and lay-people "pull and extract" bible verses out of context, to "make them mean ONLY what they want them to mean!" The TRUE INTERPRETATION OF the BIBLE was handed down to all Christians by the Early Church Fathers, who formed the Canon of Scripture in 382, 393, and 397 AD. The TRUTH begins with Jesus establishing HIS One True Church in Matthew 16:13-21, the same Church that is mentioned over 30 times in the New Testament---the same Church that begin with the 1st Church in Antioch--Acts 2--the same
Church that (again) is spoken of in Acts 2 as an authoritative, heirarchical, visible Church with Bishops, priests,deacons and elders---the same Church that was expanded (in Pauls writings) to Corrinth, Galacia, Ephesus, Colosse, Thessalonica and on and on recorded throughout Sacred Church History. The TRUTH begins with God, through His Son Jesus Christ (in the unity of the Holy Spirit)---then through Jesus' Church from the "unwritten word of Traditions" passed down by Jesus to His Apostles to the expansion of HIS One True Catholic Church--the Bride of Christ.
I posted the scripture about the devil taking Jesus up into the tallest mountain range (whatever that is in the mediteranean) and claimed he could speak and inform the entire world from this high vantage point.

I stated as we know the world is a sphere and 150-200 miles is about as far as anyone can see from the top of mount everest.

If someone is reading the bible one has to wonder why this would be written or do you just breeze right past such stories?


What say you HOJO......
ree Minbd

Eaton Park, FL

#405629 Nov 28, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible does not error! It may, at times, seem to contradict itself but that is because those "self-interpreting teachers, preachers and lay-people "pull and extract" bible verses out of context, to "make them mean ONLY what they want them to mean!" The TRUE INTERPRETATION OF the BIBLE was handed down to all Christians by the Early Church Fathers, who formed the Canon of Scripture in 382, 393, and 397 AD. The TRUTH begins with Jesus establishing HIS One True Church in Matthew 16:13-21, the same Church that is mentioned over 30 times in the New Testament---the same Church that begin with the 1st Church in Antioch--Acts 2--the same
Church that (again) is spoken of in Acts 2 as an authoritative, heirarchical, visible Church with Bishops, priests,deacons and elders---the same Church that was expanded (in Pauls writings) to Corrinth, Galacia, Ephesus, Colosse, Thessalonica and on and on recorded throughout Sacred Church History. The TRUTH begins with God, through His Son Jesus Christ (in the unity of the Holy Spirit)---then through Jesus' Church from the "unwritten word of Traditions" passed down by Jesus to His Apostles to the expansion of HIS One True Catholic Church--the Bride of Christ.
Somehow, I doubt if you go to a Biblical faith healer when you get sick.

I'll bet you ignore the Bible and seek out a real medical science doctor, who doesn't believe that illness is caused by demons.

That's only one example.

More?

A whale is not a fish. Slavery is immoral. And there is nothing wrong with usury and capitalism (IMHO at least).

(Do people even think about what they write?)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405630 Nov 28, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Why do you think people use the character of "Satan" against others?
read about Satan

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isa 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

___

Jesus called him

Joh_12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

Joh_14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Joh_16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

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